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Jun 26 03:47:40 <skypuppy> taptaptap  Is this thing on?
Jun 26 03:48:42 <skypuppy> hi jp
Jun 26 03:50:44 <skypuppy> hello anyone?
Jun 26 03:53:19 <skypuppy> hi yogi
Jun 26 04:10:16 <skypuppy> been fighting my BBB's for 3 weeks now.  Grrrrr.
Jun 26 04:12:25 <skypuppy> Finally switched to Debian, running on 16 Gb SD card and my Gawd at the bbb software they left off.  MUCH worse than the Angstrom image.  Had to download and install everything, except that I still don't have opkg available.  <sigh>
Jun 26 04:13:46 <skypuppy> where might I find someone interested in discussing this, please?
Jun 26 04:14:32 <skypuppy> poof
Jun 26 04:15:39 <raman> hello
Jun 26 04:18:09 <chainsawbike> hi
Jun 26 04:19:07 <raman> hi
Jun 26 04:35:21 <vagrantc> no opkg. heh. will have to suffer through with the uh... limitations of apt.
Jun 26 05:10:25 <The_Ball> haha, I think skypuppy did a "rage quit"
Jun 26 05:16:06 <vagrantc> poor puppy.
Jun 26 05:29:36 <spike> i am using arago given by ti ,the RNDIS over usb device is not working any suggestions how to enable it.....
Jun 26 06:04:48 <spike> which kernel module corresponds to RNDIS service.....
Jun 26 06:13:46 <vvu>  spike usb something would be, for the BBB it is gadget_multi
Jun 26 06:14:04 <vvu> do not now rndis standalone, just this multi stuff that exports also a filesystem
Jun 26 06:22:24 <spike> thnks vvu ....
Jun 26 06:51:19 <aurelien> hi #beagle!
Jun 26 06:51:38 <aurelien> trying to install pip install explauto does not fit
Jun 26 06:52:03 <aurelien> i have also tried from source https://github.com/flowersteam/explauto
Jun 26 06:52:24 <aurelien> then python setup.py and get /usr/lib/python3.4/distutils/dist.py:260: UserWarning: Unknown distribution option: 'extra_require
Jun 26 06:52:41 <aurelien> so i hae tried pip install --upgrade setuptools
Jun 26 06:52:41 <aurelien> Requirement already up-to-date: setuptools in /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages
Jun 26 06:52:41 <aurelien> Cleaning up...
Jun 26 06:52:52 <aurelien> but it continue to give me the same error
Jun 26 06:53:40 <aurelien> explauto is used for the https://github.com/poppy-project which is the robot http://www.poppy-project.org
Jun 26 06:54:01 <aurelien> and could be usefull for #beagle
Jun 26 06:54:31 <aurelien> i will report the information to explauto, but is that the correct way?
Jun 26 06:56:59 <aurelien>  https://github.com/flowersteam/explauto/issues/44
Jun 26 10:11:36 <spike> i am trying to get RNDIS working over usb ,i tried "insmod g_multi.ko/insmod g_ether.ko" got an error "no device found" when i did "cat /proc/driver/musb_hdrc" i got no file found any suggestion would be hiughly appreciated...
Jun 26 10:51:42 <chin> hello
Jun 26 10:52:21 <Guest31316> hello mythos
Jun 26 11:36:49 <tufugo> Hello everyone, I have a BB black and I want to send and receive some data using a serial connection. Can I use the UART0 ? Or is it already used for something else by default ? Thanks :)
Jun 26 11:42:06 <tbr> tufugo: by default you'll find it bound to kernel console and a getty
Jun 26 11:42:20 <tbr> and U-Boot prints to it during boot
Jun 26 11:42:43 <tbr> you can disable those, but it might just be easier to use one of the others
Jun 26 11:43:56 <tufugo> @tbr okay so I need to enable one of the others uart device so
Jun 26 11:48:46 <tufugo> okay thanks, I was afraid I could not use the uart0 easily
Jun 26 11:50:28 <tufugo> by the way I enabled the uart1, how can I send and receive data with this one ? :s I'm not familiar with this
Jun 26 12:04:06 <chin> hello everyone
Jun 26 12:05:53 <Guest71311> I am unable to download the 'socket.io' library required for web interface. Any idea how to proceed
Jun 26 12:05:55 <Guest71311> ?
Jun 26 12:08:29 <tbr> tufugo: it is just a regular Linux UART aka /dev/tty...
Jun 26 12:15:47 <Guest71311> but my html code doesn't work without it..
Jun 26 12:59:08 <tufugo> @tbr yeah but that's the point, I never used /dev/tty in a soft implementation :/
Jun 26 14:02:00 <rst256> hello. Question about BeagleBone Black, I can simultaneously connect LSD screen and something to SPI and I2C ports?
Jun 26 14:49:44 <zmatt> rst256: hmm, I've once had that my LCD screen turned into something more appropriately called an LSD screen, but I'd been awake for way too long
Jun 26 14:57:13 <zmatt> rst256: and which things can be used at the same time can ultimately be derived from the expansion header table in the system reference manual
Jun 26 14:58:58 <zmatt> the lcd pins don't seem to conflict with the pins of any I2C or SPI controller as far as I can see
Jun 26 15:01:51 <zmatt> you'd need to check which pins are occupied by the LCD cape you have in mind of course
Jun 26 15:09:22 <zmatt> rst256: the LCD signals themselves are entirely non-overlapping with I2C and SPI, but LCD capes may also have some physical buttons connected to pins which may conflict with some of the I2C/SPI possibilities (though simply not pressing those buttons is a workaround of course)
Jun 26 15:12:09 <rst256> zmatt: thank you. do not understand immediately, of course lcd and spi pins never will coincide.
Jun 26 15:12:19 <zmatt> that's no 'of course'
Jun 26 15:12:25 <zmatt> most pins are multi-function
Jun 26 15:12:54 <zmatt> look at chapter 7 of the beaglebone SRM
Jun 26 15:13:32 <zmatt> each pin can have up to 8 different functions
Jun 26 15:16:09 <rst256> their protocols are too different. except that the power pin.
Jun 26 15:16:11 <zmatt> the same info is also more elaborated at on http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Cape_Expansion_Headers
Jun 26 15:20:06 <zmatt> on that page you see for example that pins 17/18 of connector P9 can be used as I2C1, but they can alternatively be used as part of SPI0
Jun 26 15:20:49 <zmatt> those are also completely different protocols but that doesn't matter:  there are switches internal to the processor which (based on software configuration) will connect physical pins to different components within the processor
Jun 26 15:23:28 <rst256> yes, for your advice, I already checked this, as per http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Capes lcd pins placed in p8 only.
Jun 26 15:24:10 <zmatt> yes, while SPI and I2C pins appear on P9, so LCD pins themselves are not a problem: but as I said, some capes may also use other pins, you need to check that
Jun 26 15:24:52 <zmatt> (there are I think three LCD capes listed as compatible with the beaglebone black)
Jun 26 15:26:15 <zmatt> I2C1 will normally always be accessible since it is used to query info from capes
Jun 26 15:26:50 <zmatt> so you can also put additional I2C devices on it (as long as there's no address conflict)
Jun 26 15:29:43 <ati> hi there
Jun 26 15:30:54 <ati> I am a beginner, any body know where I can find the schematics of the BeagleBone?
Jun 26 15:33:32 <zmatt> http://bit.ly/1ls3OpH
Jun 26 15:34:52 <zmatt> contains direct links to the original (non-black) schematics, and a link to a wiki page with direct links to the schematics for all beaglebone black revisions
Jun 26 15:34:58 <zmatt> :P
Jun 26 15:34:59 <H-H-H> they are linked to on the getting started
Jun 26 15:37:13 <rst256> try http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone. And use search string on rigth top in this page
Jun 26 17:14:17 <VoltVisionSteve> has anyone else gotten eQep0 to work?  (I know people have recently gotten eQep2alt to work).
Jun 26 17:50:30 <Paul_> hello
Jun 26 17:50:51 <Paul_> is there anyone i can talk to
Jun 26 17:51:05 <myself> we could spin up an eliza bot if you just want to chat
Jun 26 17:51:18 <Paul_> how do i do it
Jun 26 17:51:21 <myself> but reading the /topic is advised
Jun 26 17:52:09 <Paul_> hello
Jun 26 19:10:50 <drgrid> Does the beagle board black, rev C, ship with a default ethernet address, and does it ship with ethernet enabled?
Jun 26 19:11:07 <vagrantc> ethernet defaults to dhcp
Jun 26 19:11:11 <_av500_> ethernet should be enabled
Jun 26 19:12:38 <drgrid> Thanks, then I should be able to attach to my network, and have the DHCP server assign an address, and go from there.
Jun 26 19:42:43 <_av500_> yes
Jun 26 19:48:01 <woglinde> gm av500
Jun 26 19:48:26 <woglinde> hm that reminds me to look for travel and hotel for elce
Jun 26 19:59:16 <Paul> hello there, may i ask a question?
Jun 26 19:59:57 <Paul> I am new to the BBB, just received it today,  And it cannot boot from USB
Jun 26 20:00:16 <woglinde> boot from sd
Jun 26 20:00:21 <woglinde> as everyone
Jun 26 20:00:57 <Paul> I think I did something to erase the content in the eMMC
Jun 26 20:01:05 <veremit> boot from USB, never known that to be a feature!
Jun 26 20:01:29 <woglinde> eMMC is not the sdcard
Jun 26 20:01:32 <veremit> boot via serial debug, sure .. but that takes a while to download an image :)
Jun 26 20:01:40 <Paul> I meant that I could not connect the BBB to the USB of my computer
Jun 26 20:01:49 <veremit> cable broke?
Jun 26 20:01:49 <woglinde> veremit hehe 115200 atleast
Jun 26 20:01:50 <veremit> :)
Jun 26 20:02:07 <Paul> cable is fine
Jun 26 20:02:07 <woglinde> hm I gues he has windows
Jun 26 20:02:21 <veremit> why the hell the Beagle foundation promote the USB connection is waaaay beyond me
Jun 26 20:02:29 <veremit> plug the damn thing into an ethernet cable and SSH in
Jun 26 20:02:31 <veremit> Simple.
Jun 26 20:02:42 <veremit> DC power jack .. forget the USB
Jun 26 20:02:46 <woglinde> hm he deleted the emmc
Jun 26 20:02:48 <Paul> the board is BBB Black
Jun 26 20:02:59 <woglinde> serial cable is a must
Jun 26 20:03:11 <woglinde> as always when you do embedded stuff
Jun 26 20:03:40 <jkridner> veremit: I push USB cable for people for 2 reasons: avoids needing to understand how to setup a network and reduces the cables I need to travel and develop
Jun 26 20:03:50 <Paul> woglinde, how do i restore things in emmc?
Jun 26 20:03:51 <veremit> Paul .. download an eMMC flasher image .. burn it to a uSD card .. place inside your BBB, hold the button next to the uSD slot, and power up the Beagle whilst HOLDING the button until all FOUR leds illuminate briefly
Jun 26 20:03:54 <jkridner> veremit: that said, an Ethernet cross-over or Ethernet switch work great.
Jun 26 20:04:29 <veremit> Then, wait until all four leds illuminate permanently, remove power, and re-apply.
Jun 26 20:04:59 <veremit> this WILL take some time .. go have a beer/coffee/favourite beverage
Jun 26 20:05:20 <veremit> or better still, make a coffee before you start :)
Jun 26 20:05:39 <veremit> jkridner .. yes, the principle/idea is great .. pity the underlying technology is riddled with issues :)
Jun 26 20:06:11 <jkridner> works nicely for me. what issues?
Jun 26 20:06:23 <jkridner> veremit: the new flasher turns the LEDs off, rather than freezing them on.
Jun 26 20:06:34 <veremit> jkridner .. maybe a detailed FAQ walk-through of issues published on the Beagle site would help those most frequently experienced issues, eg. drivers in winDoze.
Jun 26 20:06:35 <jkridner> veremit: it is a side-effect of automatically shutting down when done.
Jun 26 20:06:41 <veremit> oh .. it shuts down now
Jun 26 20:06:46 <Paul> thank you vermit, I did all that and it seems that I reased something preloaded inside emmc
Jun 26 20:06:54 <jkridner> windows drivers are indeed an issue.
Jun 26 20:07:02 <veremit> last one I did .. it just stopped
Jun 26 20:07:13 <veremit> I manually shut down .. but I figured it didn't really matter :)
Jun 26 20:07:14 <jkridner> I *just* got the BeagleBoard.org Foundation driver signing certificate about 10 minutes ago.
Jun 26 20:07:24 <veremit> OoooOOOOOOOooooo
Jun 26 20:07:32 <veremit> congrats!
Jun 26 20:07:33 <jkridner> Installing the Windows SDK now.
Jun 26 20:07:38 <veremit> lol fun stuff
Jun 26 20:08:08 <veremit> even under linux yo uhave to have the right kernel drivers .. not all distro's do out-the-box .. and then you gotta recompile a kernel .. its just quite unfriendly.
Jun 26 20:08:32 <veremit> everyone these days has a network .. (regrettably too often wireless)
Jun 26 20:09:09 <_av500_> thats why BBB must have onboard wifi
Jun 26 20:09:13 <_av500_> or even better, 3G
Jun 26 20:09:24 <_av500_> use your BBB before you even have it
Jun 26 20:09:35 <veremit> _av500_ .. looking forward to that edition ;)
Jun 26 20:09:47 <veremit> for the Wifi .. already havea dual=core Wandboard ;)
Jun 26 20:10:18 <alexanderhiam> ok, cloud9 headache, the package.json file on my bone with the latest debian image says version 3.0.1, but the last tag on https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9 is v2.0.93... am I looking at the wrong repo??
Jun 26 20:12:27 <alexanderhiam> oh wait, maybe it matches one of the million branches...
Jun 26 20:13:54 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: is the bone's cloud9 built from a separate fork of ajaxorg's?
Jun 26 20:14:04 <jkridner> yes
Jun 26 20:14:40 <alexanderhiam> ah, that explains it
Jun 26 20:15:02 <alexanderhiam> jkridner: where abouts is that?
Jun 26 20:15:17 <jkridner> private repo that will be open "any day"(tm)
Jun 26 20:15:27 <jkridner> so, you pretty much need to pull the tarball.
Jun 26 20:15:30 <veremit> lol
Jun 26 20:15:34 <veremit> Soon(tm)
Jun 26 20:16:22 <alexanderhiam> well in that case I have a bug just for you ;)
Jun 26 20:16:43 <veremit> submit to tracker :P~
Jun 26 20:16:44 <veremit> lol
Jun 26 20:16:55 <veremit> or email the *cough* mailling-list .. too many of those still exist lol
Jun 26 20:17:16 <alexanderhiam> is there a beaglebone bug tracker out there somewhere?
Jun 26 20:17:34 <alexanderhiam> aside from the mailing list that is
Jun 26 20:17:41 <jkridner> yes, bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases
Jun 26 20:18:00 <alexanderhiam> nice!
Jun 26 20:18:09 <alexanderhiam> and only 6 open!
Jun 26 20:19:41 <alexanderhiam> though this one might warrant some discussion on the mailing list...
Jun 26 21:34:05 <shay_shay> hey
Jun 26 21:35:07 <shay_shay> question. beagle bone can vonnect to a computer as if it were a usb ethernet adapter. is that something which is built into the hardware? or can a similar thing be acomplished between two PCs?
Jun 26 23:05:20 <Khalos> Hey there, wondering if anyone has had success deploying a LabView program to their Beaglebone?
Jun 26 23:09:39 <ds2> got a spare 10-20K to toss around?
Jun 26 23:13:30 <Khalos> ds2, I'll take that as a no. I presume you are reffering to the NI Labview C Generator?
Jun 26 23:14:37 <ds2> yes
Jun 26 23:18:16 <Khalos> Thanks ds2
Jun 26 23:59:56 <MrYaah> hello, whats the best way to run the beaglebone-black-g-ether-load.sh script on boot from http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/beaglebone+black#BeagleBoneBlack-usbgadget
Jun 27 00:01:32 <MrYaah> or more generally whats the best way to set up the beaglebone to allow networking over usb
Jun 27 00:02:10 <veremit> Don't. Lol :)
Jun 27 00:02:16 <veremit> jk .. its possible.
Jun 27 00:02:27 <veremit> it has its idiosyncrasies though
Jun 27 00:02:32 <veremit> (sp)
Jun 27 00:04:10 <vagrantc> i thought it was enabled by default... ?
Jun 27 00:06:12 <MrYaah> not on the image I set up following that wiki i linked
Jun 27 00:08:48 <veremit> not in RN's own images I -think-
Jun 27 00:08:51 <veremit> although .. he may have updated
Jun 27 00:08:58 <veremit> since he works so diligently here :D
Jun 27 00:10:08 <vagrantc> so not the images from: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Jun 27 00:10:59 <veremit> eewiki.net != beagle.anything
Jun 27 00:11:00 <veremit> ;)
Jun 27 00:11:31 <vagrantc> well, there's some overlap in people involved
Jun 27 00:12:01 <vagrantc> an given there were multiple images linked on that wiki...
Jun 27 00:14:53 <MrYaah> uum
Jun 27 00:14:55 <MrYaah> im using
Jun 27 00:14:59 <MrYaah> the 3.15 kernel
Jun 27 00:15:09 <MrYaah> with the debian rootfs
Jun 27 00:15:12 <MrYaah> if that matters
Jun 27 00:16:07 <vagrantc> good luck.
Jun 27 00:16:10 * vagrantc waves
Jun 27 00:20:07 <MrYaah> :S
Jun 27 00:20:11 <MrYaah> good luck with what im so confused
Jun 27 00:22:08 <thurgood> probably good luck with the 3.15 kernel
Jun 27 00:23:28 <veremit> hehe if you're following RN .. you'll be fine
Jun 27 00:23:38 <veremit> he sometimes lurks here .. watch out for rcn nick :)
Jun 27 00:23:46 <Jonnyw2k> talking about usb gadget is it possible to use the bbb as a virtual keyboard?
Jun 27 00:25:45 <MrYaah> ill keep a loockout for rcn
Jun 27 00:25:54 <MrYaah> look out
Jun 27 00:28:30 <veremit> Jonnyw2k .. like wiht some things connected to the IOs?
Jun 27 00:28:47 <veremit> it depends whether the gadget class can emulate a HID device
Jun 27 00:29:14 <veremit> else you gotta fake a USB HID on the usb client .. which might be possible I dunno
Jun 27 00:30:58 <Jonnyw2k> looks like i can create it in userspace using gadgetfs
Jun 27 00:31:31 <Jonnyw2k> http://sourceforge.net/p/hid-gadgetfs/code/ci/master/tree/keyboard/
Jun 27 01:45:32 <shay_shay> MrYaah: you want internet over usb?
Jun 27 01:47:05 <shay_shay> MrYaah: what os is your coputer
Jun 27 01:47:13 <shay_shay> if its linux then i have the answer for you
Jun 27 01:47:26 <shay_shay> if its windows then i still kinda do
Jun 27 01:48:04 <shay_shay> i got mine a few days ago and the first thing i set out to do is learn how to use the PC as a router for the beaglebone
Jun 27 01:48:23 <shay_shay> read tons and tons of unhelpful posts on the internet
Jun 27 01:49:00 <shay_shay> MrYaah: ?
Jun 27 01:49:21 <shay_shay> http://shallowsky.com/blog/hardware/talking-to-beaglebone.html
Jun 27 01:49:35 <shay_shay> anyways this page is the only one which has all the facts
Jun 27 01:50:15 <shay_shay> if youre using ubuntu then theres some other things that you have to do but those differences are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall
Jun 27 01:50:41 <shay_shay> rahter, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/firewall.html
Jun 27 01:50:59 <shay_shay> under IP Masquerading
Jun 27 01:52:12 <shay_shay> thats assuming youve left the /etc/network/interfaces settings default
Jun 27 01:52:35 <shay_shay> if not, i can paste one the beagle comes with for reference
Jun 27 01:54:29 <shay_shay> guess i'm just talking to a wall here
Jun 27 02:00:05 <shay_shay> MrYaah.....................
Jun 27 02:18:00 <MrYaah> shay_shay: not internet over usb, I'm just trying to reenable the usb network connection so I can ssh from the host computer
Jun 27 02:18:15 <MrYaah> shay_shay: Since I set up a new image on the board which doesn't have this feature enaabled by default
Jun 27 02:18:47 <MrYaah> shay_shay: with any of the official bbb images from the website I can connect just fine on my mac or pc
Jun 27 02:19:18 <MrYaah> shay_shay: but I kinda cheated and just threw the execute command in a super simple init script
Jun 27 02:24:10 <shay_shay> well why not mount one of the images on your pc and explore them?
Jun 27 02:24:45 <shay_shay> the /etc/network/interfaces file is what you need to look at i think
Jun 27 02:25:24 <shay_shay> what did you install?
Jun 27 02:25:27 <shay_shay> ubuntu?
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