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Jul 12 06:59:23 <mrpackethead> no noise
Jul 12 07:06:44 <Shadyman> BOOM
Jul 12 12:19:51 <elinuxer> hai all , am working in BBB to access tca6416 gpio pins in user space. i referred this website "http://wiki.atlas-embedded.com/index.php?title=Controlling_GPIO_over_UserSpace " , what should i do in kernel to access 16 pin of tca6416 in sysfs files as gpio
Jul 12 12:22:08 <jhn> Is a Qt savvy expert avail? Need a surefire guide to get Qt cross compiling on Mavericks.
Jul 12 12:31:01 <jhn> Anyone with Qt experience
Jul 12 13:04:09 <woglinde> jhn use qt-creator
Jul 12 13:13:13 <Jonnyw2k-home> Who's got a microsd for me then lol
Jul 12 13:18:20 <woglinde> what?
Jul 12 13:21:42 <Jonnyw2k-home> I need a microsd card to flash my emmc cant seem to find one, theyre too small and always go missing
Jul 12 15:38:16 <jhn> Has anyone running Qt on the BBB? Basically I only need qmake... Unfortunately all help refers to angström or Qt 4, while RvC runs Debian and Qt 5 is out.
Jul 12 15:41:26 <jhn> What is the "toolchain" I need in order to cross compile?
Jul 12 15:47:53 <woglinde> use qt-creator with a cross-compiler
Jul 12 15:49:55 <jhn> I would love to do so. From what I understand I should D/L the eMMC image and install that oon the host. For what purpose happens this?
Jul 12 15:53:12 <m_billybob> someone posteed instructions a while back on the groups, but i think it was all native
Jul 12 15:53:56 <m_billybob> we've got a spammer in chan
Jul 12 15:54:33 <m_billybob> spammer -> <lotiho>
Jul 12 15:56:52 <Jonnyw2k-home> my beagle bone black leds are going from side to side
Jul 12 15:57:21 <m_billybob> sounds like you're using a flasher image
Jul 12 15:57:32 <Jonnyw2k-home> ahh cool
Jul 12 15:57:42 <Jonnyw2k-home> I thought they where meant to go
Jul 12 15:57:46 <Jonnyw2k-home> 1...2....3....4
Jul 12 15:59:50 <jhn> I do not have a uSD card reader whatsoever - can I download the latest Debian onto a SD card mounted in the running BBB, before flashing it?
Jul 12 16:04:03 <veremit> should be 2 images .. flasher and non-flasher
Jul 12 16:04:05 <veremit> so you can test
Jul 12 16:04:08 <Jonnyw2k-home> 4lights means done right
Jul 12 16:05:07 <jhn> I understand the two different images. The question was, if D/L the Image from within the BBB onto a SD card is possible, and afterwards flashing it?
Jul 12 16:08:47 <m_billybob> Yes, and no. You need enough space to store it. If he eMMC is full from factory how would you have enough space ?
Jul 12 16:10:19 <jhn> I understand that. If I have an empty uSD inserted - can I D/L the image from beaglebone.org/latest images directly onto the uSD?
Jul 12 16:10:41 <m_billybob> sure you can, butthen what ?
Jul 12 16:11:49 <jhn> My idea is to cycle power and press the boot button - then the freshly loaded new image will get flashed - or am I mistaken?
Jul 12 16:13:34 <m_billybob> honestly i have no idea how the flasher works and / or needs to be setup.
Jul 12 16:14:01 <m_billybob> I've always built my own custome images
Jul 12 16:14:21 <jhn> Ok, thanks anyway.
Jul 12 16:14:31 <m_billybob> I can imagine several differnt odd ways to go abotu this, but ive never tested
Jul 12 16:14:47 <m_billybob> and not 100% sure any would work
Jul 12 16:16:51 <m_billybob> you need MLO, uboot the device tree file for the BBB, and uEnv.txt on a fat partition, and then you need the rootfs on an ext4 partition. You need to understand this, and more, which i dont really have the time to go into on in detail
Jul 12 16:17:42 <jhn> Ah, Ok, so the answer probabely is no...
Jul 12 16:18:00 <m_billybob> the answer is yes, but the process is very complex
Jul 12 16:18:10 <m_billybob> ( for a beginner )
Jul 12 16:18:58 <jhn> ... which I qualify for... at least regarding the mysteries of BBB.
Jul 12 16:21:16 <m_billybob> well i can think of a couple ways off the top of my head. Involving either NFS root, USB rootfs, and possibly even ssh but . . .
Jul 12 16:21:30 <m_billybob> never tested these ways
Jul 12 16:21:52 <m_billybob> i have two laptops both have sd card readers . . . :/
Jul 12 16:22:08 <jhn> Ok, giving in, will buy a uSD reader.
Jul 12 16:22:56 <m_billybob> buy a serial debug cable while you're at it. If you're serious.
Jul 12 16:23:52 <m_billybob> bbl
Jul 12 16:45:57 <jedahan> pretty awesome OOBE for the black
Jul 12 16:46:17 <jedahan> now has anyone gotten a BBB to talk to a 16x2 character display without using a level shifter?
Jul 12 16:47:59 <jedahan> if i'm just doing output from, say stone cold gpio3[16], and i put a diode to ensure no current runs into the board, could the 3.3v actually talk to something expecting 5v ttl?
Jul 12 16:48:16 <jedahan> without me worrying about damaging the board?
Jul 12 16:55:51 <veremit> put level shifters on .. or better still an i2c port expander is probably easier
Jul 12 16:56:12 <veremit> otherwise you're gonna get all sorts of weirdness
Jul 12 16:59:06 <veremit> if you're unlucky you'll still toast the beagle :)
Jul 12 17:01:33 <jedahan> buuuut i dont wannna wait :-p
Jul 12 17:02:09 <veremit> the voltage drop on the diode .. you'll be close to the lcd controller on/off threshold
Jul 12 17:02:25 <veremit> do you wanna risk a new beagle?! ;)
Jul 12 17:02:32 <jedahan> no , sigh
Jul 12 17:02:48 <jedahan> well the controller is powered fine off of sys_5v
Jul 12 17:02:55 <jedahan> its just the communication line i wanna try 3,3v
Jul 12 17:02:56 <veremit> ofc
Jul 12 17:02:59 <jedahan> oh
Jul 12 17:03:00 <jedahan> k
Jul 12 17:03:03 <veremit> arduino ftw :)
Jul 12 17:03:11 <jedahan> ja
Jul 12 17:03:39 <veremit> although .. as it happens . I got a parallel lcd 2x16 which I'm gonna run from an imx6 over i2c with a port expander
Jul 12 17:03:49 <veremit> easy cheat really . and deals with logic levels nicely.
Jul 12 17:13:39 <Jonnyw2k-home> does the ubuntu image not have a heartbeat LED
Jul 12 17:14:50 <Jonnyw2k-home> oh it just hadnt booted
Jul 12 17:17:05 <Jonnyw2k-home> ./etc/lsb-release
Jul 12 17:17:09 <Jonnyw2k-home> wrong window lol
Jul 12 19:05:46 <Jonnyw2k> why did i go on adafruit: http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2014/06/12/new-product-unibbb-unibody-aluminum-case-for-beaglebone-black/
Jul 12 19:07:14 <Jonnyw2k> eurghh spambots
Jul 12 19:19:16 <Jonnyw2k> anyone in the uk want my kaifun gt clone lol
Jul 12 19:19:32 <Jonnyw2k> s/ka/ta
Jul 12 19:19:52 <Jonnyw2k> qrong channel
Jul 12 21:01:24 <Ryme> Hello, problems with my BBB ver C which arrived today
Jul 12 21:02:04 <Ryme> Its faulty in terms of the mini USB plug is poor fit, however, I need to ask more questions
Jul 12 21:03:09 <Ryme> Other issues (which may be down to me but I've not used this product before) is poor screen resolution and very slow web browser (loading times etc)
Jul 12 21:04:59 <Ryme> if anyone can help, I'd be grateful
Jul 12 21:09:20 <Ryme> Should I type me query here?
Jul 12 21:09:39 <tbr> Ryme: you expected a PC?
Jul 12 21:09:44 <tbr> because it isn't
Jul 12 21:09:56 <Ryme> I was waiting for that reply
Jul 12 21:10:21 <Ryme> No, I wasnt expecting a "PC" nor sarcasm
Jul 12 21:10:34 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme the processor is limited running off usb power
Jul 12 21:10:54 <Ryme> I understand that, or assumed that
Jul 12 21:11:21 <Ryme> I will need a precise 5v supply (external)
Jul 12 21:11:51 <Ryme> I have a extrnally powered USB hub but that wont work with this board
Jul 12 21:13:18 <tbr> check if the HUB PSU matches by chance
Jul 12 21:13:48 <tbr> out of curiosity is it a CCO BBB or one from Element14?
Jul 12 21:14:33 <Jonnyw2k> i.e is it Embest or CCO
Jul 12 21:16:28 <Ryme> The board is from E14
Jul 12 21:16:50 <Ryme> The USB socket is faulty for sure. Only have to touch it and the board powers down
Jul 12 21:17:24 <Ryme> The HUB PSU is 5v at 2A
Jul 12 21:17:29 <Ryme> 2 amps
Jul 12 21:17:35 <tbr> that would work fine if the plug fits
Jul 12 21:18:40 <woglinde> RMA it than
Jul 12 21:19:24 <Ryme> I didnt want to RMA it immediately as I wanted to check the rest of it
Jul 12 21:20:27 <Ryme> With the socket being faulty and generally very slow performance and nowhere near acceptable resolution (via HDMI) I just need to be sure
Jul 12 21:20:45 <woglinde> slow performsance?
Jul 12 21:20:59 <woglinde> why do you expect javascript fast on a tiny arm machine?
Jul 12 21:21:30 <Ryme> Here we go again
Jul 12 21:21:44 <tbr> also HDMI is known to be 720p, unless you can deal with 1080 at 24p etc
Jul 12 21:21:47 <Ryme> I understand the limitatation
Jul 12 21:23:50 <Ryme> With the power socket faulty and inability to play You Tube video's and loading simple pages in 10 seconds and NOT OWNING THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT BEFORE, I wanted to be sure. I've come here to ask simple question but sarcasm and just about anything else bar help
Jul 12 21:24:54 <woglinde> if you never has such device before, why did'nt you get some informations about it
Jul 12 21:24:56 <Ryme> I have no expectation of the board in terms of desktop as that is not of interest to me
Jul 12 21:24:56 <tbr> geee, no need to get all worked up.
Jul 12 21:26:17 <woglinde> if I want to buy a car I do not buy one out of clue and do not ask than why it has only 50 hores powers
Jul 12 21:27:17 <Ryme> If your trying to help support users of the product, this is not the way to help.
Jul 12 21:27:52 <Ryme> I was reluctant to come here as I knew before I started to type the sort of replies that would come
Jul 12 21:27:57 * tbr suggests _both_ sides cool down
Jul 12 21:28:27 <woglinde> I am cool
Jul 12 21:28:34 <Ryme> I am not upset just asking some level headed person to offer some professional advice
Jul 12 21:28:50 <woglinde> and I can not make it faster
Jul 12 21:29:00 <woglinde> there is no sarcasm only reality
Jul 12 21:29:04 <Ryme> Again useless advice
Jul 12 21:29:12 <woglinde> ask a question I can help you with and I will
Jul 12 21:29:16 <Ryme> I am not asking for it to go faster,
Jul 12 21:29:22 <tbr> Ryme: please, you're not exactly making a level headded impression here
Jul 12 21:29:38 <tbr> we're willing to help and explain things
Jul 12 21:29:49 <tbr> but currently we're just caught in this useless chitchat
Jul 12 21:29:55 <Jonnyw2k> I dont understand the low-ress
Jul 12 21:30:01 <Jonnyw2k> what res is it outputting?
Jul 12 21:30:15 <woglinde> hdmi is 720 as tbr said
Jul 12 21:30:19 <Ryme> I'll try again. What is the expected resolution for this board?
Jul 12 21:30:29 <tbr> 720p, as said before
Jul 12 21:31:04 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme, http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_HDMI
Jul 12 21:31:07 <Ryme> What is the problem with it not running You Tube vids?
Jul 12 21:31:26 <tbr> a) it does not have hardware acceleration for video decoding
Jul 12 21:31:37 <tbr> b) you're running it over USB, limiting the CPU performance
Jul 12 21:31:37 <woglinde> I suggest to read http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack
Jul 12 21:31:54 <Ryme> I have read it
Jul 12 21:32:03 <woglinde> it is an arm device
Jul 12 21:32:10 <woglinde> no flashplayer for arm
Jul 12 21:32:14 <woglinde> only some hacks
Jul 12 21:32:14 <Ryme> However, the performance is so bad, I suspected the device
Jul 12 21:32:29 <Ryme> especially with the USB socket fault
Jul 12 21:33:00 <tbr> Ryme: points a and b stand. consider them.
Jul 12 21:33:17 <Jonnyw2k> I just did a download test on my BBB 2014-07-12 21:33:00 (1.53 MB/s) - ‘/dev/null’ saved [11536384/11536384]
Jul 12 21:33:33 <Jonnyw2k> 1.53MB/s which is about average for my internet
Jul 12 21:33:40 <Jonnyw2k> so I wouldnt call it slow
Jul 12 21:33:57 <woglinde> Jonnyw2k he wants youtube
Jul 12 21:34:04 <woglinde> and the bbb was not made for youtube
Jul 12 21:34:09 <Ryme> All I want to do with it is run IO work. I really am not interested in Web. I explained why I suspected it because, again, of the USB socket fault
Jul 12 21:34:14 <Jonnyw2k> woglinde, I dont think he does, I think he is using youtube as a test
Jul 12 21:34:30 <woglinde> Jonnyw2k o.O
Jul 12 21:34:46 <Jonnyw2k> Which would be like testing your windscreen wipers by pouring milkshake on your windscreen :P
Jul 12 21:34:47 <tbr> Ryme: why do you "benchmark" it with youtube then?
Jul 12 21:35:07 <Ryme> I explained several lines up. I only want to work with for IO
Jul 12 21:35:12 <woglinde> I am out of this discussion
Jul 12 21:35:30 <Jonnyw2k> Why do you need HDMI and web performance for IO?
Jul 12 21:35:32 <tbr> Ryme: what kind of IO?
Jul 12 21:35:45 <Ryme> Are you engineers?
Jul 12 21:35:49 <Jonnyw2k> Yes
Jul 12 21:35:52 <Ryme> Me too
Jul 12 21:36:11 <Jonnyw2k> but I have a pc for going on the web, and watching youtube
Jul 12 21:36:15 <Ryme> and I would not talk to any client and insult them with sarcasm
Jul 12 21:36:33 <Jonnyw2k> you're not my client, you're a peer at best
Jul 12 21:36:41 <tbr> ooooh, so you think we're all paid, on a saturday night, while the worldcup is on?
Jul 12 21:36:44 <Ryme> I care less
Jul 12 21:36:46 <tbr> we're doing this in our free time
Jul 12 21:37:04 <tbr> we're not employed by any of the parties producing this
Jul 12 21:37:24 <Ryme> I work a lot of free time for my clients and certainly treat them with respect.
Jul 12 21:37:44 <Ryme> I will explain one more time . . .
Jul 12 21:38:00 <Jonnyw2k> The BeagleBoard.org Foundation is a US-based 501(c) non-profit corporation existing to provide education in and promotion of the design and use of open-source software and hardware in embedded computing. BeagleBoard.org provides a forum for the owners and developers of open-source software and hardware to exchange ideas, knowledge and experience. On occasion, BeagleBoard.org provides for the promotion of communication with other individuals
Jul 12 21:38:01 <tbr> btw: you didn't answer my question about IO?
Jul 12 21:38:06 <Jonnyw2k> interested in open-source software and hardware.
Jul 12 21:39:05 <Ryme> The USB socket is faulty. Having not owned this product before, I used the browser and noted it was poor. I had nothing else to compare it against
Jul 12 21:39:35 <woglinde> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Jul 12 21:39:36 <tbr> would you mind answering my question about the kind of "IO" you are planning to use it for?
Jul 12 21:39:49 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme: http://www.embest-tech.com/technical-supports/how-to-get-support/
Jul 12 21:39:49 <Ryme> Therefore, ONLY SPECULATED it was a poor board and not stated it was
Jul 12 21:40:23 <Jonnyw2k> I bought an arduino todo IO work with, It doesnt do youtube :(
Jul 12 21:40:57 <Ryme> IO, as in terms of working input output to external world, as I have worked with PIC to this point and disliked them
Jul 12 21:41:37 * veremit munches on his popcorn, enjoying the conversation
Jul 12 21:41:52 <tbr> veremit: salted or sweet?
Jul 12 21:42:04 <veremit> sweet tonight .. need the sugar
Jul 12 21:42:22 <Jonnyw2k> PWM LEDs, Analogue Input, Serial Comms, what kind of inputs and outputs
Jul 12 21:42:23 <tbr> mm, don't mind if I do help myself to a bit?
Jul 12 21:42:48 <jedahan_> anyone here have experience reading PROMs with the GPIO?
Jul 12 21:42:56 * veremit checks the cupboard .. nope, sorry .. last packet :/
Jul 12 21:43:04 <tbr> daaaamn
Jul 12 21:43:09 <veremit> ok have a handful ... *passes*
Jul 12 21:43:17 <veremit> you probably need it :)
Jul 12 21:43:19 <tbr> *munch* thankfff!
Jul 12 21:43:33 <tbr> jedahan_: bitbanging and stuff?
Jul 12 21:44:39 <jedahan_> yeah tbr , my goal is to read the first 8k of the PRG ROM in an NES, either by sniffing the data bus to the cpu, or trying to read directly
Jul 12 21:44:39 <tbr> if it's some really old PROMs then logic levels might be an issue
Jul 12 21:45:05 <jedahan_> ahh good point, I bet its 5v -.-
Jul 12 21:45:15 <jedahan_> honestly might be easier to do with an arduino then
Jul 12 21:45:22 <tbr> *nod*
Jul 12 21:45:36 <tbr> chose your weapons wisely
Jul 12 21:46:47 <Jonnyw2k> jedahan_, http://hackaday.com/2009/06/19/usb-reader-for-snes-game-carts/
Jul 12 21:46:57 <Jonnyw2k> not sure if thats similar to what you are trying todo?
Jul 12 21:48:00 <jedahan_> similar but I want to do this on a live nes
Jul 12 21:48:19 <jedahan_> the goal is just to identify the cart, and display on a 16x2 character display the name of the game thats in the console
Jul 12 21:48:39 <jedahan_> too bad all the 16x2 displays are 5v too -.-
Jul 12 21:49:22 <veremit> arduino ftw
Jul 12 21:49:38 <Ryme> Although I doubt , can this chat session be saved?
Jul 12 21:50:01 <veremit> logs are online, Ryme :) courtesy of BeagleBot
Jul 12 21:50:08 <Ryme> ok
Jul 12 21:50:49 <tbr> Ryme: scroll back, copy, paste
Jul 12 21:50:50 <veremit> or will be* online lol
Jul 12 21:50:58 <woglinde> http://beagleboard.org/chat has a guide on how to ask questions and links to the logs
Jul 12 21:51:00 <tbr> it's also in public logs, for evar
Jul 12 21:51:10 <Jonnyw2k> http://beagleboard.org/static/irclog/
Jul 12 21:55:23 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme, Visit the IRC Channel for interactive support from fellow community members. As this is an all-volunteer effort, it may be necessary to try at a few different times throughout the day and stay logged in to see any responses. If you have a large amount of text to share, use a tool such as Pastebin.
Jul 12 21:58:26 <Ryme> I wouldnt ask for your help. Help is something which I've given on products to people who are clearly clueless but I've treated them with respect even if it is a simple poor connection or advising on circuit parameters on broadcast equipment. They all the same to me, customers in need
Jul 12 21:59:05 <Ryme> I should have not come here as this is exactly what I expected
Jul 12 21:59:30 <tbr> you seem to have very different expectations.
Jul 12 22:00:13 <Ryme> I said at the outset, I HAVE NO EXPECTATIONS of this product, just for some sensible person to describe it and I can move on
Jul 12 22:01:25 <woglinde> tbr meant the EXPECTATIONS in this channel
Jul 12 22:01:37 <tbr> yes, that
Jul 12 22:03:16 <tbr> think of this channel as a pub where engineers hang out and discuss things, in a relaxed atmosphere.
Jul 12 22:03:51 <woglinde> right and we help if we can
Jul 12 22:03:54 <Ryme> What your type of advice is, is defensive. Ive come across if before
Jul 12 22:04:36 <Ryme> The minute I asked simple question about slow browser and faulty USB connection, you decended like a bunch of I dont know what
Jul 12 22:05:10 <woglinde> what simple question is that?
Jul 12 22:05:16 <Ryme> I wasnt criticising the product, I wanted someone to say, this takes this, this does that in XYZ time and that is the end of it
Jul 12 22:05:20 <tbr> I'm honestly sitting here at the keyboard and laughing. While you might _think_ that's what I did. It's certainly not what I intended.
Jul 12 22:05:23 <woglinde> did you expected a YES?
Jul 12 22:05:24 <Ryme> Not popcorn or
Jul 12 22:05:42 <woglinde> yes the bbb has a poor browser performance
Jul 12 22:05:47 <woglinde> because it was not made for web
Jul 12 22:05:56 <tbr> and it really sucks at video playback
Jul 12 22:05:59 <woglinde> are you now statisfied?
Jul 12 22:06:36 <woglinde> thats why ordinary customer support has telephone support which costs money
Jul 12 22:08:36 <Ryme> That sir is all I need to know. I have an i7 with 16GB which runs the web just fine across many OS's. I finished my MSc working alot the web and the i7 was fine. As for this little thing, it can get a RMA and I will wait another 2 months to start all over again.
Jul 12 22:09:27 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme, the first thing he said was RMA it
Jul 12 22:09:55 <tbr> it's great at many kinds of generic IO though, but I guess you'll never find out. Yes _that_ was sarcasm.
Jul 12 22:10:10 <Jonnyw2k> I've never connected mine to a hdmi port
Jul 12 22:10:21 <Jonnyw2k> because serial/ssh is good enough for what the BBB does
Jul 12 22:10:21 <tbr> me neither
Jul 12 22:10:27 <Ryme> Why did they put a HDMI port on it?
Jul 12 22:10:40 <tbr> there wasn't one in the first version
Jul 12 22:10:47 <Jonnyw2k> to make it more raspberry-pi user friendly
Jul 12 22:10:51 <Ryme> Nah
Jul 12 22:10:59 <woglinde> ryme next time please inform yourself about products you want to buy before you buy them that at least you should have learned by getting a MSc
Jul 12 22:11:00 <tbr> but many people wanted one "because RPi"
Jul 12 22:11:16 <Ryme> No, I didnt
Jul 12 22:11:26 <Jonnyw2k> he said "Many people"
Jul 12 22:11:31 <Ryme> If I wanted a Rpi, I would buy one
Jul 12 22:11:38 <Jonnyw2k> he didnt say you
Jul 12 22:11:52 <Jonnyw2k> you've already said you wanted one for gpio
Jul 12 22:12:18 <Jonnyw2k> why buy something for one feature then moan about a different feature
Jul 12 22:12:30 <Ryme> Whos moaning?
Jul 12 22:12:45 <Ryme> I could moan about alot of things worth moaning about
Jul 12 22:12:52 <tbr> btw: my i7 really really sucks at GPIO and the I²C is really hard to get to
Jul 12 22:13:03 <Ryme> Piss farting thing like this is hardly worth it
Jul 12 22:13:17 * veremit rofl
Jul 12 22:13:39 <Jonnyw2k> tbr: I have this usb device that connects to my pci that gives me i2c and gpio... oh wait thats my bbb
Jul 12 22:13:48 <Jonnyw2k> s/pci/PC
Jul 12 22:14:00 <tbr> :)
Jul 12 22:14:10 <Ryme> Keep going
Jul 12 22:14:27 <tbr> yes, that's what we do, remember pub, this is not about you.
Jul 12 22:14:36 <Ryme> I dont care about me
Jul 12 22:15:02 <Ryme> I care that Netherlands thrashed Brazil!
Jul 12 22:15:05 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme, whats your msc in?
Jul 12 22:15:26 <tbr> the game sucked, badly
Jul 12 22:15:59 <Ryme> As long as Netherland won, thatss all the matters
Jul 12 22:16:09 <Ryme> Europe vs America's
Jul 12 22:16:22 <Ryme> Germany, Netherlands
Jul 12 22:16:59 <woglinde> Jonnyw2k I have a dumb feeling its something like "How to upset people"
Jul 12 22:17:22 <Ryme> anyway, I have two degrees in Natural Science and Information Technolgy and my MS is in Technical Communication
Jul 12 22:17:48 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme, and you had to ask if there was a way of saving a chat log?
Jul 12 22:18:04 <m_billybob> No one knows everything . . .
Jul 12 22:18:27 <Ryme> I dont have the interest these days since I also have a degree in Applied Nursing, which is what I do now
Jul 12 22:18:36 <Jonnyw2k> If you have a degree in IT you should know how to copy and paste
Jul 12 22:18:39 <Ryme> I used to be a broadcast engineer with the BBC
Jul 12 22:18:58 <Ryme> I left engineering over 10 years ago
Jul 12 22:20:52 <Ryme> I would wouldnt hold my breath
Jul 12 22:21:07 <Jonnyw2k> Right I'm off
Jul 12 22:21:09 <Jonnyw2k> oh nvm
Jul 12 22:21:11 <m_billybob> Ryme,  curious though. you were expecting what exactly running a web browser on the BBB ?
Jul 12 22:21:16 <Jonnyw2k> hes gone
Jul 12 22:21:23 <woglinde> m_billybob you are to late
Jul 12 22:21:28 <woglinde> we had already the fun
Jul 12 22:21:33 <tbr> poor guy...
Jul 12 22:21:37 <tbr> somehow
Jul 12 22:21:38 <Jonnyw2k> I didn't mean to be disrespctful but he wasn't helping himself
Jul 12 22:21:43 <m_billybob> yeah unfortunately i have this tendancy to do work on the weekends ;)
Jul 12 22:21:58 <m_billybob> just got in
Jul 12 22:22:09 <Jonnyw2k> He's a nurse, I dont see why he was talking about engineering clients :/
Jul 12 22:22:40 <tbr> huh, nurse?
Jul 12 22:22:58 <Jonnyw2k> Are you asking what one is?
Jul 12 22:23:09 <tbr> no, why do you think he is one?
Jul 12 22:23:10 <m_billybob> I think a lot of people expect too much of the BBB. Minimal server i get, but running IDE's and web browsers on it ? not exactly it's intended purpose
Jul 12 22:23:23 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme> I dont have the interest these days since I also have a degree in Applied Nursing, which is what I do now
Jul 12 22:23:35 <tbr> oo, missed that, thanks
Jul 12 22:23:40 <Jonnyw2k> Ryme> I left engineering over 10 years ago
Jul 12 22:23:58 <m_billybob> talking abotu pay cut lol
Jul 12 22:24:36 <Jonnyw2k> some people arent cut out to be an engineer lol
Jul 12 22:24:46 <m_billybob> a good readio engineer gets paid twice as much as a nurse min
Jul 12 22:24:50 <m_billybob> radio*
Jul 12 22:24:53 <Jonnyw2k> Yeah
Jul 12 22:24:58 <woglinde> money is not all
Jul 12 22:25:21 <Jonnyw2k> BBC tho, not sure how they pay, should be top whack but his MSC was Techincal Communication which makes me think he just wrote reports all day
Jul 12 22:25:43 <CareBear\> m_billybob : if it has an hdmi output then obviously it is equivalent to everything else that has an hdmi connector, and can play back bluray really well using an adobe flash plugin in a firefox web browser
Jul 12 22:26:13 <m_billybob> My buddy here is a semi retired radio engineer, but he was getting $50 /hr 10 years ago
Jul 12 22:26:25 <teKuru> the comparison to an i7 made me cackle
Jul 12 22:26:32 <m_billybob> heh
Jul 12 22:26:42 <Jonnyw2k> believe it or not due to UK Govt Nurses get paid the same as Low grade engineers
Jul 12 22:26:47 <m_billybob> well CPU wise it might be 50% of a single core of an I7 ;)
Jul 12 22:27:00 <Jonnyw2k> Standard payscale across governement
Jul 12 22:28:02 <m_billybob> My mother is an RN3 here in the US, its similar
Jul 12 22:28:14 <Jonnyw2k> A "nurse" salary can go upto $140,000/pa
Jul 12 22:28:49 <m_billybob> thats a bit high compared to here i think
Jul 12 22:29:04 <Jonnyw2k> I dunno what "nurse" in that sense means
Jul 12 22:29:15 <m_billybob> My mother, head of her department, and a college prof == $3000 a month
Jul 12 22:29:19 <Jonnyw2k> probably be sitting on the directors table running the hospital
Jul 12 22:29:29 <woglinde> I think he realised he bought the wrong device and wanted only to troll a bit
Jul 12 22:29:30 <m_billybob> 10 or more years ago
Jul 12 22:29:39 <m_billybob> heh
Jul 12 22:29:54 <Jonnyw2k> woglinde, No disrespect to old people, but I think he might have been 50+
Jul 12 22:30:21 <woglinde> Jonnyw2k there is only little respect in irc
Jul 12 22:30:23 <m_billybob> well there are some ARM i5 killers out there. whats it wanderboard ? cubieboard . . . but they all have 2GB RAM
Jul 12 22:30:32 <Jonnyw2k> Wait a stinking minute: <Ryme> That sir is all I need to know. I have an i7 with 16GB which runs the web just fine across many OS's. I finished my MSc working alot the web and the i7 was fine. As for this little thing, it can get a RMA and I will wait another 2 months to start all over again.
Jul 12 22:30:36 <m_billybob> the ones im thinking of
Jul 12 22:30:45 <Jonnyw2k> " I finished my MSc working alot the web and the i7 was fine."
Jul 12 22:30:46 <tbr> not everybody gets along with the IRC netiquette
Jul 12 22:30:59 <Jonnyw2k> he said he left engineering 10years ago
Jul 12 22:31:07 <Jonnyw2k> i7s only came out 5years ish ago
Jul 12 22:31:20 <m_billybob> not important
Jul 12 22:31:42 <Jonnyw2k> yeah the cubieboard 3/cubieruck
Jul 12 22:31:45 <Jonnyw2k> *truck
Jul 12 22:31:59 <tbr> and his hesitance tells that he was afraid of this, probably because he doesn't know how to handle it.
Jul 12 22:32:01 <Jonnyw2k> im waiting for 64bit arm to become mainstream before I get a device like that
Jul 12 22:32:07 <tbr> clash of worlds. unfortunate.
Jul 12 22:32:32 <Jonnyw2k> BBB64 hubba hubba lol
Jul 12 22:32:56 <tbr> 64bit seems still a bit down the road. there aren't even many devices for the core developers doing the pioneer work
Jul 12 22:33:01 <m_billybob> two words people need to understand "embedded" and well "SBC" so i guess 4 words ? lol
Jul 12 22:34:59 <Jonnyw2k> yeah but I think we're at the limits for what ARM has to offer until 64bit is mainstream
Jul 12 22:35:05 <m_billybob> Still think it is funny that its was a $45 embedded SBC, and people want to treat it as though its a $400 + Dell or something
Jul 12 22:36:07 <m_billybob> Runs Node.js perfectly ;)
Jul 12 22:36:57 <Jonnyw2k> heh, node.js with IO! :P
Jul 12 22:37:14 <Jonnyw2k> I need to start learning how FPGAs work, eurghh I hate learning I like playing lol
Jul 12 22:37:33 <woglinde> Jonnyw2k uaha fpga is complicated
Jul 12 22:37:55 <Jonnyw2k> Ive got a FPGA cape for my BBB
Jul 12 22:38:03 <Jonnyw2k> was a kickstarter, ooo that looks good
Jul 12 22:38:10 <Jonnyw2k> now Ive got it I should start using it
Jul 12 22:38:14 <KotH> woglinde: if fpga is hard, what do you think about rocket surgery? ;)
Jul 12 22:38:55 <woglinde> hm one piece episode
Jul 12 22:38:59 <woglinde> than I will got to sleep
Jul 12 22:41:26 <KotH> did anyone else get pmsg spam from lotiho or poponi
Jul 12 22:41:28 <KotH> ?
Jul 12 22:41:45 <m_billybob> yeah i ignored PRIV from the whole class B
Jul 12 22:42:21 <m_billybob> second time ive been spammed with that spain addy today
Jul 12 22:42:45 <woglinde> koth yes
Jul 12 22:43:01 <woglinde> koth infor freenode people please I am to lame to do it
Jul 12 22:43:22 <KotH> i just did
Jul 12 22:43:39 <m_billybob> judging from the address that spammed me earlier they'll just evade
Jul 12 22:44:36 <m_billybob> Nice thing about not being a chan op is i can just ignore the whole block if i want ;)
Jul 12 22:45:00 <veremit> byeeeeeeeee lol
Jul 12 22:45:00 <tbr> KotH: yes, it's been all over freenode
Jul 12 22:45:09 <KotH> meh..
Jul 12 22:45:11 <KotH> really?
Jul 12 22:45:13 <KotH> fuck them
Jul 12 22:45:13 <tbr> yes
Jul 12 22:45:18 <KotH> where is an op if you need one?
Jul 12 22:45:27 <veremit> -shrug- :p
Jul 12 22:45:43 <tbr> you can try harrass the voiced people on #freenode...
Jul 12 22:45:46 <m_billybob> at the dohnut shop with the cops ?
Jul 12 22:54:45 <IvanPtec> hello
Jul 12 22:55:05 <m_billybob> hi
Jul 12 22:55:32 <IvanPtec> anyone from beaglebone to chat about becoming a distributor here in argentina?
Jul 12 23:35:35 <GodFear> anyone ever monitored CPU temp on BBB rev c?  Have a question about the temp read out, it's in the thousands like 63000 that would be 63C right? not something that has to be converted?
Jul 12 23:49:57 <CareBear\> IvanPtec : check back in about 16 hours
Jul 12 23:50:10 <CareBear\> IvanPtec : maybe even a bit more
Jul 12 23:50:26 <CareBear\> IvanPtec : they're in the US, where it is now sunday evening - bad time for doing business
Jul 12 23:51:15 <vagrantc> s,sunday,saturday,
Jul 13 01:40:24 <staylor> Are the SGX drivers at all supported under the 3.8 kernel?
Jul 13 02:18:12 <gtbuzz> Anyone know if circuitco accepts cape designs for manufacturing/selling?
Jul 13 02:18:35 <staylor> Is there a way to get the LCD4 cape to work with the 3.13 or newer kernels?  With or without the capemgr?
Jul 13 02:18:38 <gtbuzz> We are looking for an easy way to have these manufactured, along with an online "store" we can point people to for purchasing the capes.
Jul 13 02:19:28 <veremit> I *think* circuitco are fairly busy with their own designs ..
Jul 13 02:20:02 <gtbuzz> We are looking for an easy way to have these manufactured, along with an online "store" we can point people to for purchasing the capes.
Jul 13 02:20:20 <gtbuzz> are there any other resources anyone knows of other than circuitco? fairly new to this process.
Jul 13 02:20:43 <veremit> adafruit/sparkfun maybe?
Jul 13 02:24:33 <gtbuzz> I'll look into those. thanks
Jul 13 02:25:21 <yapatel> Anyone know why the recent debian release from RCN requires loading of the BB-BONE-PRU firmware? I don't recall previous versions asking for it.
Jul 13 02:25:42 <yapatel> I'm used to use P9.27 but it taken by that DTO.
Jul 13 02:32:34 <veremit> yapatel .. lurk a while .. he'll probably pop in :)
Jul 13 02:33:44 <staylor> Is anyone using an LCD cape with the SGX drivers?
Jul 13 02:34:55 <veremit> hmm sounds interesting ..
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