**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 13 02:59:59 2014 Jul 13 03:43:28 Is u-Boot always loaded from eMMC or will it be loaded from SD when booting a system off the SD card? Jul 13 03:54:46 loads from SD card when you boot with a bootable sd card. Jul 13 04:08:37 yapatel: okay thanks, wasn't clear to me if I was supposed to upgrade u-boot on the emmc before using a new sdcard image (with the new env updates). Jul 13 04:18:17 it'll read the uenv.txt file off the card when you boot up. the args in that file will tell where to find the kernel image, what capes to load, etc Jul 13 04:18:59 yapatel: looks like it's the ticket to getting a LCD4 cape working with the 3.13 kernel and in turn SGX support. Jul 13 04:19:13 probably! Jul 13 04:19:31 it's certainly not made easy lol Jul 13 04:20:19 there's a special place in hell reserved for gpu vendors who refuse to release driver sources Jul 13 05:21:55 Hi all, this is my first time around. I want to ask if new eMMC images comes with xfce or lxde preinstalled or not? Jul 13 05:50:16 XEROF, just install it if its not. Jul 13 05:57:36 I just tested lxde, eat to much of ram Jul 13 05:58:26 i will try i3 or e17, thanks anyway ;) Jul 13 08:17:21 Good morning! I am following the inet tips about silencing the LC locale not set warning without success. Any advice? Jul 13 08:40:28 jhn: I think that's a generic debian problem, so you might have more luck on a #debian channel. Jul 13 08:40:42 My personal guess would be to dpkg-reconfigure locales Jul 13 08:41:08 Yep, that is the general advice, but does not help. Jul 13 08:41:39 I am guessing you SSH in from your desktop linux? Jul 13 08:42:05 Affirmative Jul 13 08:42:26 From a Mac that is. Jul 13 08:42:34 check which locale that uses. SSH forwards that to the host you log in to Jul 13 08:43:19 en_US.UTF8 Jul 13 08:44:44 check also the LC_ vars Jul 13 08:49:37 jhn: edit /etc/locale.gen and run locale-gen Jul 13 08:49:45 jhn: as r00t Jul 13 08:50:25 KotH tried that to no avail. Jul 13 08:50:32 o_0 Jul 13 08:50:42 whats the exact error message? Jul 13 08:50:53 how does your env and /etc/locale.gen look like? Jul 13 09:04:13 @tbr Found a hint to disable language forwarding from the ssh client - this silences the warnings. Jul 13 09:04:34 @KotH Found a hint to disable language forwarding from the ssh client - this silences the warnings. Jul 13 09:05:08 ah.. Jul 13 09:05:08 I suspect you're missing locales on your installation then. Jul 13 09:05:09 yes Jul 13 09:05:13 yes Jul 13 09:06:01 It still makes me wonder - the Machas set en_US.UTF8 as well. Jul 13 09:06:35 I'm going out on a limb, but I suspect you'll find de_DE.UTF8 used somewhere too Jul 13 09:07:20 Firmly no, my system is set up in english. Jul 13 09:08:21 sure? Jul 13 09:08:24 have you checked? Jul 13 09:08:49 if you are running a susi, there is a 100% chance of some german locale creeping in Jul 13 09:10:53 http://labs.telasocial.com/locale-setting-no-such-file/ Jul 13 09:19:29 @KotH Out of the box Mavericks has LC_CTYPE="UTF-8" the remaining LC_ are set to "C" whatever that means. Jul 13 09:22:02 SSH'ing Wwith SendEnv active to the BBB Debia says: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory Jul 13 09:22:12 The same applies to LC_ALL Jul 13 09:23:18 On the BB the LC_ are all set to POSIX - although I have selected en_US and generated locale as per the instructions. Jul 13 09:39:41 anyone used buspirate v3 with the beagleboneblack or it is even supported? i cannot find any info in their docs. Jul 13 10:56:05 hi, Jul 13 10:56:12 http://beagleboard.org/Community/Forums Jul 13 10:56:14 are empty Jul 13 10:56:57 works for me Jul 13 10:57:38 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beagleboard/join Jul 13 11:46:45 hi there, whats a good way to load an additional dtbo at startup? Jul 13 11:47:03 so far i do this in /etc/rc.local Jul 13 11:57:30 oh, ya , I was meaning to ask this since fosdem, is the devce tree , still maintained? Jul 13 11:59:00 device tree Jul 13 12:34:43 "the device tree"? Jul 13 12:47:38 I can only assume he means do new capes get added to the device tree Jul 13 13:13:09 KotH, Jonnyw2k: i was following this guide (http://interactingobjects.com/ds18b20-temperature-sensor-on-a-beaglebone-black-running-ubuntu/) and he did not mention how to enable this stuff at startup Jul 13 13:13:40 yes, so is the device tree maintained? Jul 13 13:13:51 ragnar76: ask someone else Jul 13 13:14:37 cityoflights2: i think so, there is a code fragment which enables ic2 Jul 13 13:15:23 i mean i can leave it as it is now but is there a proper way for this? Jul 13 13:57:43 ragnar76: hmm, when do you publish the code? Jul 13 14:00:46 cityoflights2: it's not my code i used it to enable i2c on my beagle Jul 13 14:01:21 cityoflights2: but all i have done so far is in my github at https://github.com/ragnar76/bbb-ds1820 Jul 13 14:04:22 and, i have added a hygrometer and a barometer (both i2c) Jul 13 14:05:22 I am building in irrigation system, this is handy.... Jul 13 14:05:59 if you have plants. i dont have ;) Jul 13 14:09:10 plants react well to this technology :-) Jul 13 14:09:28 not when i am close to them Jul 13 15:45:53 Are the SGX GPU drivers working on the 3.8 kernel? Jul 13 16:25:24 hi, i have a strange thing happen on 2 distro with beaglebone, (arch & ubuntu) Jul 13 16:25:29 [ 7.251984] libphy: PHY 4a101000.mdio:01 not found Jul 13 16:25:30 [ 7.257061] net eth0: phy 4a101000.mdio:01 not found on slave 1 Jul 13 16:25:43 the strange is that i have not change anything from a while on both Jul 13 16:25:53 so do not understand how that happen Jul 13 16:26:27 and i can't connect anymore from wifi :-/ Jul 13 16:27:21 Hello, is anyone able to advise how I can prevent the BBB booting from the sd card (i'm using rcn-ee.net's ubuntu) Jul 13 17:10:21 or maybe it does not like to have the serial cable connected at the same time (but that sounds strange) Jul 13 17:11:23 or there is a conflict with other wifi tools like keyboard? but that sounds strange too wifi dongle to get connection to www is different from the tools one Jul 13 17:15:13 please, no dongle jokes! Jul 13 17:15:38 ? Jul 13 17:16:09 hey the edimax dongle have works fine ... just today something goes wrong and i don't know what Jul 13 17:16:15 what do you suggest? Jul 13 17:16:35 you probably got a kernel update Jul 13 17:16:46 hmm ... possible Jul 13 17:16:52 musb is known to be a beast the driver is kind of ... Jul 13 17:17:04 ok thanks! Jul 13 17:17:06 so, a "newer" kernel might be worse Jul 13 17:17:32 using ubuntu on a embedded device is also probably not the best idea Jul 13 17:17:51 most of time i use arch Jul 13 17:17:59 ubuntu is just for some test Jul 13 17:19:13 the strange thing was the same trouble on 2 different distro Jul 13 17:19:33 i was affraid it could be a material trouble :-/ Jul 13 17:20:21 there are many possible causes Jul 13 17:20:26 hardware is one of them Jul 13 17:20:38 but i you say it worked before, it's most likely software Jul 13 17:20:49 hmm no musb http://archlinuxarm.org/packages Jul 13 17:21:02 yep it have works fine Jul 13 17:21:40 on both ... and get time to give to it fix ip Jul 13 17:22:33 using wicd-curses on most of material, make it fine most of time Jul 13 17:23:02 and there is no musb on ubuntu too Jul 13 18:20:07 Are the SGX GPU drivers working on the 3.8 kernel? Jul 13 18:22:24 unless something has happened there lately.. no Jul 13 18:22:55 I think they got them sort of working on later kernels Jul 13 18:25:34 Has anyone managed to get the LCD4 cape working on the later kernels? Jul 13 18:28:19 I don't think so, YMMV. Jul 13 18:31:03 I know rcn-ee hasa them sgx drivers working in 3.13 on the framebuffer (not in X sessions) Jul 13 18:34:42 fb would be enough for wayland Jul 13 18:37:10 yeah, it's plenty for me, unfortunately the color depth is only 16 bit on the hdmi out Jul 13 18:38:34 unless you're doing cell shading.. that's problematic for me Jul 13 22:19:38 that was the kernel version Jul 14 00:10:10 Would anyone happen to know how to implement a momentary switch to the GPIO on the board that would turn the board on and off. I have built a case for it and need this external button to assist me since the smaller button will be encased. I am very new to GPIO and breadboarding, so even a basic guide to that would give me a lead would be very helpful. Thanks! Jul 14 00:11:20 Isn't the power button brought to a pin on the header? then you just gotta connect a momentary switch to 5v or GND as appropriate Jul 14 00:11:45 Or the mechanical solution is to make a small dowel that pushes down on the original button ;) Jul 14 00:12:01 or just tack onto the switch leads on the board ? Jul 14 00:12:35 I looked at a diagram that showed where the PWR_BUT pin was and next to it a 5V power. The dowel is also a good idea! Jul 14 00:12:57 m_billybob .. very hacker :) Jul 14 00:13:26 veremit, other option is just to remove the button period and replace with button / wire ;) Jul 14 00:13:41 heh true Jul 14 00:14:00 dont remember if the power leads connect via the headers or not. Gerald would know Jul 14 00:14:16 but probably easier just to check the schematic Jul 14 00:14:26 How do I contact Gerald? Jul 14 00:14:36 do you know how to read the schem ? Jul 14 00:14:56 im nto exactly and EE and probably could do that much myself ;) Jul 14 00:15:05 I can, however, I am not sure how the programming is implemented in the terminal. Jul 14 00:15:26 well Gerald isnt a developer, just a hardware guy Jul 14 00:15:44 he could tell you if the headers have connection to that circuit though Jul 14 00:16:18 Oh, ok. Would you happen to know a good guide to GPIO and the linux terminal? Jul 14 00:16:18 synthicode, though what exactly are you hoping to achieve ? Jul 14 00:16:36 because a shutdown now -h / r would possibly do the same Jul 14 00:17:06 I just need a basic button on the outside of the case that I built for the board to turn it on and off. Jul 14 00:17:08 No, but whats his face ummm Jul 14 00:17:17 The hard part is turining it on. Jul 14 00:17:34 veremit, whose that irish guy on youtube Jul 14 00:18:11 synthicode, anyhow if you search youtube for beaglebone black gpio Jul 14 00:18:22 lemme see if i can find it quick Jul 14 00:18:47 o,O Jul 14 00:18:59 the beagle reference manual has the header pinouts on it :p Jul 14 00:19:05 its on the beagle webstie :) Jul 14 00:19:07 site* Jul 14 00:19:20 billybob .. I think I know .. derek m? Jul 14 00:19:22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wui_wU1AeQc Jul 14 00:19:26 Derrek Molloy Jul 14 00:19:30 thats im# Jul 14 00:20:05 I actually saw several diagrams that represent different modes. I have seen Derrek Molloy on my searches! Jul 14 00:23:52 hello Jul 14 00:24:51 If i were to make a beaglebone or a beagleboard how would i flash it? Jul 14 00:25:25 same as everyone else XD Jul 14 00:25:41 just with the sd card thing? Jul 14 00:25:47 (The chat bar dissappeared until now...strange) I would like to thank m_billybob and veremit for helping me out! Thanks! Jul 14 00:25:48 probably need to do the first bootloader over serial Jul 14 00:26:22 ok Jul 14 00:27:01 i guess ill have to do some reading then... Jul 14 00:27:07 thanks Jul 14 00:27:28 sdcard is most common Jul 14 00:27:32 too late Jul 14 00:27:35 was afk lol Jul 14 00:28:27 hmm guess you can do sd_card too if you got the connections/etc :D Jul 14 00:28:30 Can do NFS/TFTP boot and flash thatway im pretty sure, but i havent actually testeed it. But i do run NFS root now Jul 14 00:28:30 didn't think of that Jul 14 00:28:42 depends what you've got/not-got :D Jul 14 00:28:59 some of Roberts scripts are sort of over my head Jul 14 00:29:12 I'm not thatgood odf a gah scripter Jul 14 00:29:17 grrr Jul 14 00:29:25 im not that good of a bash scripter* Jul 14 00:30:28 its one of the things i need to study on but round-to-its are sometimes few and far inbetween Jul 14 00:32:49 Oh, lol if he were to MAKE <--- missed that part lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 14 02:59:59 2014