**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 18 02:59:59 2014 Aug 18 08:44:11 hi all, Aug 18 08:46:22 so let me ask this: to debounce an input , I need to make sure it reaches a given value a few times in a time window - right? Aug 18 08:46:57 assume I expect a sensor to give me "1" for 19ms and it does bounce. Aug 18 08:47:40 I will check in the 19ms time frame to see I get "1" , say four times, if so I would say the sensor is ON Aug 18 08:53:10 meta-ti what defconfig uses for beaglebone black ? Aug 18 09:02:28 Hi everyone! Aug 18 09:03:56 hi all Aug 18 09:06:11 Quick question: I've never used JTAG before and would like to start. I think I need to buy an adapter, ideally an USB one (my computer only has USB ports) Aug 18 09:06:22 Do you guys have any recommendation regarding that purchase? Aug 18 09:07:11 Ecco: depends on the amount of money you're willing to spend and the features you need. Aug 18 09:07:27 * tbr would rather buy a usb2serial cable... Aug 18 09:08:32 but... but... "JTAG" Aug 18 09:08:49 We were talking about it last week, and I actually just bought two (a cheap PL2303 + an FTDI one) Aug 18 09:09:07 But I'd like to learn about JTAG Aug 18 09:09:47 I think the buspirate speaks jtag. Not sure how useful it is for that. Aug 18 09:12:08 Hi Guys anyone know which OS is better for GUI programming and ADC? Android or QT Aug 18 09:12:23 what is ADC? Aug 18 09:12:33 Qt is not an OS Aug 18 09:12:39 Analog-to-digital converter Aug 18 09:12:45 tbr read the question again Aug 18 09:12:53 ah right Aug 18 09:12:57 sorry Aug 18 09:12:57 tsts Aug 18 09:12:59 my fault Aug 18 09:13:02 :> Aug 18 09:13:05 OK Hi Guys anyone know which tool is better for GUI programming and ADC? Android or QT Aug 18 09:13:18 Beagleblack_GUI QT is no OS Aug 18 09:13:55 unless you have very specific needs for android, a traditional gnu/linux userspace is preferable Aug 18 09:13:55 Beagleblack_GUI a linux with qt is better think with android you have more obstacles Aug 18 09:14:03 hi woglinde thanks for your correction. Aug 18 09:14:16 android will turn obscure real quick and there will be nobody to help you Aug 18 09:14:18 woglinde thanks for your advice. Aug 18 09:14:22 besides android is linux too Aug 18 09:14:30 So you guys recommend a bus pirate? Aug 18 09:14:38 Is it a good, reliable device? Aug 18 09:14:52 Ecco: haven't used mine for JTAG, so can't say Aug 18 09:15:04 I know it's fairly slow at it Aug 18 09:15:23 I've considered buying one for a while now Aug 18 09:15:50 I don't mind if it's slow, I'm not going to use it much I think. I'd just like to learn :-) Aug 18 09:16:10 get a flyswatter ;) Aug 18 09:16:20 I plan to build a sensing and control system using Beageblack with a 7 touchscreen. Aug 18 09:16:39 Ecco: but for jtag its usually the price <-> pain relation Aug 18 09:17:55 Can the Bus Pirate also act as an UBS<->UART device? Aug 18 09:18:04 OK I will try with QT. There are few information when I search "Beagleblack and Android“ Aug 18 09:24:47 Hi trb thanks for your information too. Aug 18 09:26:40 Beagleblack_GUI: Out of curiosity, what are you trying to do? Aug 18 09:29:00 I try to control two pumps and read values from sensors. Meanwhile GUI will be a 7" touch screen. Aug 18 09:40:14 Beagleblack_GUI: Yeah Android might not be a bad idea Aug 18 12:01:30 I have a question related to the ethernet port: I have several beaglebones (REV C) and immediately after applying power I observed that partially only the GREEN Led of the ethernet port lights up whereas the ORANGE LED stays dark. In these cases ethernet does not work after the beaglebone has booted. A workaround is to remove and apply the power source until the ORANGE Led also lights up directly after applying power. Is this know res Aug 18 12:18:58 BBUser: never had such a problem with my boards Aug 18 12:23:28 I just saw the raspery pi release a new board with the same cpu as the BBB. Aug 18 12:23:48 Is there any GPU acceleration now? Aug 18 12:25:00 some time ago work started to allow the X replacment to support the ARM GPU acceleration Aug 18 12:25:26 I also remember a guy try to add support for the vlc, has this all matured yet? Aug 18 12:42:11 cityoflights2: what CPU are you talking about? Aug 18 12:42:32 well the ARMv11 Aug 18 12:42:41 huh… Aug 18 12:43:08 AFAIK the latest announcement regarding the RPi was the B+ model, which uses pretty much the same core components Aug 18 12:43:18 and "ARM GPU" doesn't make much sense in my book Aug 18 12:43:45 does arm v11 offer graphics acceleration? Aug 18 12:44:22 Arm v11 doesn't make sense either :-) Aug 18 12:44:40 You're probably mixing things up with ARM11, which is over a decade old now Aug 18 12:44:44 what is the name of the CPU in my BBB? Aug 18 12:44:55 It's a Cortex M8 IIRC Aug 18 12:45:16 A8 sorry Aug 18 12:45:35 ok, does the cortex A8 offer graphics acceleration ? Aug 18 12:45:39 not per se Aug 18 12:45:46 but the BBB uses a SoC Aug 18 12:45:59 that includes a Cortex A8 core *plus* an SGX GPU Aug 18 12:48:12 SGX530 to be accurate Aug 18 12:48:31 the TRM says "The SGX subsystem is a Texas Instruments instantiation of the POWERVR® SGX530 core from Imagination Technologies Ltd." Aug 18 12:49:51 ok, can vlc use this? Aug 18 12:52:24 Hmm, turns out you're speaking to the dude who wrote the first OpenGLES driver for VLC :-) Aug 18 12:52:38 So yeah, VLC can definitely use this Aug 18 12:52:48 VLC can speak OpenGLES Aug 18 12:53:03 sweet Aug 18 12:53:05 l Aug 18 12:53:25 is this the mainline vlc, or do I still need to compile this on my own? Aug 18 12:53:32 You will need the proper drivers for the GPU, and I don't know if Debian provides this Aug 18 12:53:48 .ko files? Aug 18 12:53:49 cityoflights2: Hmm, your best guess would be to build your own Aug 18 12:55:36 If you're using the Debian one, it will most likely try to use the OpenGL driver (and not OpenGLES) Aug 18 12:55:49 so if I were you I'd try to build it from source Aug 18 12:55:54 (plus you'd get the most recent version) Aug 18 12:56:09 Now I don't know if Debian let you make OpenGLES calls Aug 18 12:56:13 (I've never tried it) Aug 18 12:56:20 I c Aug 18 12:56:38 is this all userspace, or need I build a kernel? Aug 18 12:56:47 I don't know Aug 18 12:58:14 I don't think that one should start with vlc, but getting the sgx driver ready first (which can be quite arcana FWIW) Aug 18 12:58:28 LetoThe2nd: I couldn't agree more Aug 18 12:58:53 * LetoThe2nd hi5es Ecco Aug 18 12:59:28 And while I'm thinking about this Aug 18 12:59:40 I don't think there's support for GLES + XWindows in VLC Aug 18 12:59:56 So you may have to hack things up to retrieve a GLES context Aug 18 13:02:19 well, ok, nevermind I guess Aug 18 13:03:18 Yeah, long story short: it's not going to be easy. Not hard either, but it will require some hacking and coding Aug 18 13:03:29 Out of curiosity, what are you trying to do? Aug 18 13:04:49 was looking to help a freind hookup a tv to a upnp player to get the kid to see some shows Aug 18 13:04:56 some old tv shows Aug 18 13:05:35 buy him a raspi and install some readymade xbmc thing. use your time for more meaningful things instead ;) Aug 18 13:05:50 I agree Aug 18 13:05:53 Hi guys i have been struggling to get my wifi working consistently. Can someone please explain to me why my wifi seems to work when powered through the usb port but not when powered through the vddd_5v. I am trying to power my beaglebone black through the pins and use usb for wireless communication through a wifi dongle on an rc car. Aug 18 13:06:00 like solving the debuncing issue Aug 18 13:06:23 Leto: is this channel on gname - so I may search it? Aug 18 13:06:26 when the dongle works it shows up as wlan0 when it doesnt it shows as wlan1 i cant figure out why Aug 18 13:06:40 cityoflights2: no idea, i don't use gmane Aug 18 13:07:18 I had a boot-related question Aug 18 13:07:22 Why X-loader? Aug 18 13:07:41 I mean, why not including whatever it's doing into u-boot? Aug 18 13:07:52 Ecco: because you need something that can do the very basic setup and the same time fits into the few kbytes internal ram Aug 18 13:08:00 Oh Aug 18 13:08:18 Yeah well, I guess this should still be merged with Uboot, don't you think? Aug 18 13:08:36 Ecco: basically its all about getting some clocks/ports set up and external ram working Aug 18 13:08:38 I mean, conceptually, I can see the point of a bootloader (i.e. get the devices initialized before the kernel takes over) Aug 18 13:08:57 but the concept of a bootloader-loader somehow seems weird to me :-) Aug 18 13:09:09 Ecco: ERM, SPL (the u-boot variant/naming of x-loader) is long time merged and functional. Aug 18 13:09:19 oh Aug 18 13:09:30 but you can't start u-boot directly as it just does not fit into the internal ram. Aug 18 13:09:35 Got it Aug 18 13:09:39 so X-loader is optional? Aug 18 13:09:45 Also, where does the name "MLO" come from? Aug 18 13:09:57 Mighty Loading Object Aug 18 13:09:59 if you ask me. Aug 18 13:10:08 Really? :-D Aug 18 13:10:12 no idea. Aug 18 13:10:14 ok Aug 18 13:10:22 so basically I don't have to use Xloader? Aug 18 13:10:34 in the end, MLO/SPL/X-Loader is all the same. some initial, minimal bootstrapping. Aug 18 13:10:43 got it Aug 18 13:10:56 Out of curiosity, what's "initializing the external RAM"? Aug 18 13:11:03 What's really being done? Aug 18 13:11:15 some chips can do without, when booting from directly accesible memory like NOR. no idea about the AMxxxx Aug 18 13:11:22 ok Aug 18 13:11:45 Ecco: look at the AM3xxx TRM, ram init should be described in great detail. Aug 18 13:11:50 Will do Aug 18 13:12:54 So supposedly I could boot a Linux kernel on a BBB using only code from the u-boot tree? Aug 18 13:13:19 yes. Aug 18 13:13:26 (Using their own, two-stage design) Aug 18 13:13:33 (their == uboot's) Aug 18 13:13:35 for your reference: http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/cpu/armv7/am33xx/ddr.c;h=fc66872a3179257cb23d8083672f17a174a7df31;hb=HEAD Aug 18 13:13:50 interesting Aug 18 13:13:54 so indeed, uboot can do it :) Aug 18 13:14:02 Oh Aug 18 13:14:03 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_U-Boot_User's_Guide#Two_stage_U-Boot_design Aug 18 13:18:32 can anyone help me with my wifi issues? Aug 18 13:19:16 mistawright: Are you sure they're beaglebone-specific? Aug 18 13:19:32 Otherwise you may get more help in a channel/website more specifically related to your issue Aug 18 13:19:48 mistawright which os? Aug 18 13:28:37 tried with both archlinux and debian. Aug 18 13:28:43 dongle works on my computer Aug 18 13:30:22 its bealgebone specific as I said it works with my beaglebone black depending on how it is powered it seems. I have been able to get it to work by connecting my beaglebone black through the microusb cable to another computer. I have it working and connected to a network currently. but if I power my beaglebone black through the pins using pins 1 and 5 and the p9 header it doesnt seem to work Aug 18 13:36:38 mistawright you are sure that /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules does not interfere? Aug 18 13:37:16 Wait, you mean that powering your BBB throught the power connector doesn't work as well as through USB? Aug 18 13:37:49 That's very weird. Are you sure your power adapter is OK ? Aug 18 13:38:22 woglinde, I havent looked at that route so see if it does. that makes sense seeing as how things are named differently based on how its powered which is weird Aug 18 13:38:42 Ecco, I power my beaglebone through the usb cable, dc adapter and the pins. all scenarios work fine Aug 18 13:39:29 You just said "depending on how it is powered" :-) Aug 18 13:40:08 meaning that if it is connected through usb it works Aug 18 13:40:20 I'd suggest to power the wifi dongle separately from regulated 5V Aug 18 13:40:29 either through a hub or a spliced cable Aug 18 13:44:45 tbr, you wouldnt have an example of this would you? I cant quite visualize how to accomplish this Aug 18 13:48:27 tbr didn't you tell him this a couple of days ago? Aug 18 13:49:05 probably Aug 18 13:49:15 lol Aug 18 13:50:02 ok, now all are here, I got an epool debouce question Aug 18 13:50:57 I asked the OS to run a function when a gpio edge is sensed, via epoll() Aug 18 13:51:35 to avoid boucing I am checking the time when my function is called Aug 18 13:52:01 in case it is called within 19ms I advance a counter. Aug 18 13:52:23 then when the couter reaches 4 - I say the sensor is "ON" Aug 18 13:52:56 I then need to avoid the function calls for a certain time, say 30 ms Aug 18 13:53:07 and then all over , is this the way? Aug 18 13:53:16 or am I doing it wrong? Aug 18 14:00:08 hello guys Aug 18 14:00:47 i would like to know the beagle's graphics capabilities Aug 18 14:00:54 if it's suitable for multimedia apps Aug 18 14:01:06 no Aug 18 14:01:17 or depends Aug 18 14:01:29 short form: the bbb is not a cheapass media center, go buy a raspi :) Aug 18 14:01:35 sorakun: what would you like to do? Aug 18 14:01:38 if you only need to display image types like jpeg or png it could work Aug 18 14:01:58 woglinde: You're harsh. The hardware can do way more than that Aug 18 14:02:00 Ecco, i thought of a handled gaming console Aug 18 14:02:08 lol ^^ Aug 18 14:02:08 woglinde: in *gasp* FullHD? ;) Aug 18 14:02:23 forget gaming Aug 18 14:02:33 ecco you see I was not wrong Aug 18 14:02:53 Really? I haven't tried it but I feel like the hardware isn't that bad Aug 18 14:03:18 ok the bandwidth istn't wide enough to drive a fullhd screen at 60 Hz Aug 18 14:03:30 GAMING! Aug 18 14:03:36 and there's no hardware for decoding H264 Aug 18 14:04:04 Well, I wouldn't be surprised if the BBB could run PSP-level games for example Aug 18 14:04:19 I mean, it's actually pretty close to the iPhone 4 in terms of hardware Aug 18 14:04:22 Ecco, actually, i wanted to make something like GP2X Caanoo Aug 18 14:04:23 or so Aug 18 14:04:25 and the iPhone 4 definitely does gaming Aug 18 14:04:58 sorakun: you're just not gonna get anything beyond 1280x1024 out of the hdmi port. Aug 18 14:05:19 sorakun: and hw acceleration is a major PITA. Aug 18 14:05:22 Well, the gaming console he's talking about has a 320×240 screen Aug 18 14:05:50 LetoThe2nd, can't an external GPU be used ? Aug 18 14:05:56 whowhowho Aug 18 14:05:57 sorakun: erm.... no. Aug 18 14:05:58 a Aug 18 14:05:59 no Aug 18 14:06:06 but there's a *very decent* GPU included Aug 18 14:06:12 woops ^^ Aug 18 14:06:31 Really, I don't get it why the BBB has such a bad reputation regarding graphics Aug 18 14:06:33 is it able to run gl shaders? Aug 18 14:06:37 yes Aug 18 14:06:44 Ecco: because 1280 and because SGX Aug 18 14:06:45 rumour has it, that some people even got it running recently, on a non-ancient kernel Aug 18 14:06:55 Well, SGX is what's in the iPad Aug 18 14:07:02 why not an external gpu could be used? Aug 18 14:07:03 And the iPad isn't that bad Aug 18 14:07:12 sorakun: because there's no bus Aug 18 14:07:16 sorakun: because it's a SoC, there is no bus Aug 18 14:07:30 Ecco: SGX is perfect, when you're talking about software-locked, non-user-hackable hardware. like.... iOS devices. Aug 18 14:07:30 tbr what does SoC means? Aug 18 14:07:51 I wasn't praising SGX in terms of openness :-) Aug 18 14:07:52 Ecco: for anything else, its PITA Aug 18 14:08:04 (well, we're talking 3D chip here anyway, are you telling me nVidia is better ? :-D) Aug 18 14:08:19 * tbr has fond memories of binary SGX drivers making his life... a pleasure... NOT! Aug 18 14:08:21 Ecco, can't we use the existing pins to attach the gpu? Aug 18 14:08:28 sorakun: no Aug 18 14:08:33 Ecco: nah, but the etnaviv situation is considerably better, for example. Aug 18 14:08:41 why not? D: Aug 18 14:08:51 sorakun: because they're not a bus. Aug 18 14:08:55 sorakun: because there are no pins to attach it Aug 18 14:08:55 sorakun: to explain it simple : those pins are too slow. They can't talk fast enough to a GPU. Aug 18 14:09:04 s/simple/simply Aug 18 14:09:09 Ecco, thank you Aug 18 14:09:14 well, they might be able to talk, just at a glacial pace Aug 18 14:09:15 :) Aug 18 14:09:15 i'm still newbie Aug 18 14:09:17 sorakun: sorry, please don't take offense, but you seem to be talking about things you do not understand the utmost basics so far. Aug 18 14:09:40 sorakun: so if you want a gp2x or pandora, your best bet is probably to just buy one. Aug 18 14:09:41 sorakun: no worry :) Aug 18 14:09:58 LetoThe2nd, you are right, we always learn don't we? ^^ Aug 18 14:10:00 (and I agree with LetoThe2nd ^^) Aug 18 14:10:04 Sure Aug 18 14:10:23 Yet I stand on my ground : I'm sure you could get a decent 3D game running on the BBB :-) Aug 18 14:10:33 I would even try it right now if I had an HDMI screen :) Aug 18 14:10:49 but back on the 3D chip topic Aug 18 14:11:07 Ok, the RPI has HW H264. But does it even do GLES2? Aug 18 14:11:41 ok seems like it does. Are its performances much better than the SGX? Aug 18 14:11:45 it has this ginormous VC4 blob Aug 18 14:11:56 at 3D? probably not Aug 18 14:11:56 is the sgx driver garbage? I havent tried it but i see it is available for the beaglebone black Aug 18 14:12:08 it's power lies in media handling Aug 18 14:12:21 you mean HW decoding of H264 right? Aug 18 14:12:31 yes Aug 18 14:12:33 ok :-) Aug 18 14:12:47 and higher memory bandwidth allowing higher resolutions Aug 18 14:12:52 indeed Aug 18 14:13:02 well, not higher memory bandwidth from the ARM core Aug 18 14:13:18 but then again the ARM core is there for the ride Aug 18 14:13:23 ^^ Aug 18 14:14:01 Well, games tend to be rather CPU intensive Aug 18 14:14:15 but yeah, ok, the BBB would be a terrible XBMC oard Aug 18 14:14:18 board Aug 18 14:14:31 but it's not like XBMC is the only use for an embeded board right? Aug 18 14:15:06 exactly Aug 18 14:15:21 but it's a very popular hobbyist target Aug 18 14:15:30 indeed Aug 18 14:15:42 well, it was until the cheap .cn xbmc boxes arrived Aug 18 14:15:50 Oh, are there any? Aug 18 14:15:57 google is your friend Aug 18 14:16:00 Sweet Aug 18 14:16:17 Can they get much cheaper than the RPi though? Aug 18 14:16:41 if you add in all the stuff you need to get rpi to works as an acceptable xbmc box maybe Aug 18 14:16:56 What do you mean? Aug 18 14:17:04 It's pretty much small SD card, usb outlet Aug 18 14:17:32 so what, $5 all included? And I mean you can recycle most of this (like an old phone's charger) Aug 18 14:17:53 the xbmc boxes are products Aug 18 14:18:10 they have a case, remote, warranty (maybe) Aug 18 14:18:17 Yeah, makes sense Aug 18 14:18:21 also AFAIU you need to buy codecs for the RPi to make it usable Aug 18 14:18:28 really? Aug 18 14:18:28 yep Aug 18 14:18:43 well, that's weird Aug 18 14:18:50 no it isn't Aug 18 14:18:52 no it's a business model Aug 18 14:18:53 :) Aug 18 14:19:01 in general when you have a HW decoder they pre-paid the license Aug 18 14:19:09 which is what rpi is in a nutshell :) Aug 18 14:19:13 many people will never use the xyz codec, so why fold the price into every unit Aug 18 14:19:15 believe me, I've dealt with video codec licensing before :) Aug 18 14:19:32 * tbr has seen this model several times Aug 18 14:19:32 let's just say the SoC situation with the RPi is unique Aug 18 14:19:47 tbr: You have a point. But then why bundling the HW if so few people us it? Aug 18 14:19:57 *use it Aug 18 14:19:58 Ecco: "it was there anyway" Aug 18 14:20:09 makes sense Aug 18 14:20:15 well ok Aug 18 14:20:30 you could of course burn every chip selectively off, with a lazzz0r Aug 18 14:21:20 but it would be a pain and drive the costs up, sure Aug 18 14:22:16 Well in the past I've dealt with quite a few cases where the license was already being paid for by the hardware vendor Aug 18 14:22:50 http://www.raspberrypi.com/license-keys/ Aug 18 14:22:56 Well, it's only about MPEG2 Aug 18 14:23:02 nobody uses that anymore Aug 18 14:24:27 http://www.raspberrypi.org/new-video-features/ Aug 18 14:24:50 Apparently H.264 is already paid for in the RPi Aug 18 14:24:54 when did this become #rpi? Aug 18 14:24:58 Ecco, it seems that the pi has better gpu capabilities Aug 18 14:25:13 but i still prefer bbb though Aug 18 14:25:17 tbr: I don't know. What should I call it? :-) Aug 18 14:41:38 i see that robert nelson has upgraded the other boards to newer kernels. do you guys know when we can see Aug 18 14:41:49 we will see a newer kernel for the beaglebone black? Aug 18 14:44:08 mistawright: 3.14 will probably land some time. :) Aug 18 14:45:22 is there anyway i can request a framebuffer driver be added. I have been having a hell of a time trying to build a kernel with support for it. still havent been able to get it going Aug 18 14:46:35 mistawright: you can always try and poke rcn about it. Aug 18 14:48:55 is there anyway i can request a framebuffer driver be added. I have been having a hell of a time trying to build a kernel with support for it. still havent been able to get it going Aug 18 14:49:01 may have to do that Aug 18 16:43:24 Hello, are there any decent PowerPoint programs for debian BBB? Aug 18 16:45:02 dunno if libre office has been ported to arm... I imagine it has been Aug 18 16:45:42 there should be Impress, but its aweful and buggy as hell Aug 18 16:46:05 I just need to go through some basic pictures, nothing too fancy Aug 18 16:48:21 well unless you're doing some low-level stuff Aug 18 16:48:27 you shouldn't have to "port to ARM3 Aug 18 16:48:28 " Aug 18 16:49:46 it appears that there are already ports for debian arm, so I guess i will try that! Aug 18 17:26:33 could someone please dump their uEnv.txt for BBB? I'm trying to bring up 3.16 and it gets stuck at `Starting kernel ...`. Aug 18 17:46:06 any good .bmp viewers??Dumbass3! Aug 18 20:58:29 Hi BobCat Aug 18 21:01:19 hi N2TOH Aug 18 21:01:54 we will get over 300 chatters soon Aug 18 21:17:42 BobCat why the sudden change in ocean tides of Human thinkers? Aug 18 21:18:09 the moon did it Aug 18 21:18:32 AHA! the same moon that controls the crazy people? Aug 18 21:50:00 * N2TOH looks at ion Aug 18 21:52:21 o hi Aug 18 23:53:36 I have a beaglebone black rev c with debian. It logs into user debian. I would like to know how to have it auto login at boot to "myname" so I can delete user debian. Aug 18 23:54:55 have you looked for debian tutorials on how to do this not specific to the bbb? Aug 18 23:56:44 If you can tell me a search term that would select for this I would be happy to try and find a tutorial on it. Aug 18 23:56:51 ? Aug 18 23:57:02 "adding debian users" Aug 18 23:57:19 "adding users linux" Aug 18 23:57:35 "debian auto login" is a good start Aug 18 23:59:04 I have searched for everything I can think of for it with no success. I'll try that. Thanks. Aug 18 23:59:16 #quit Aug 19 00:24:03 hi Aug 19 00:24:46 anyybody can help me? Aug 19 00:25:10 I have a begalboard black and want to run it on windows machine Aug 19 00:25:42 so I installed drivers for usb connection and started the Start.htm on disk drive but still get one problem Aug 19 00:26:23 I can't browse to web server anytime Aug 19 00:26:34 just don't know why Aug 19 00:32:12 tim______, you try going to the ip on your web browser? can you ping the ip Aug 19 00:40:35 no, I've tried cmd on Windows and only get 192.168.7.1 Aug 19 00:41:09 but if I type 192.168.7.2 I can reach the site but are not connected Aug 19 00:48:55 does any body know what is the version of Debian preinstalled on BeagleBone Black? Aug 19 00:59:39 libregeekingkid_: it's preinstalled with Angstrom, not Debian Aug 19 01:02:42 beaglebone Black comes with Debian Aug 19 01:04:06 jpfau: see http://beagleboard.org/project/debian/ & this http://beagleboard.org/black Aug 19 01:06:34 libregeekingkid_: apparently the installers are available for both debian and angstrom as "stock" images, but I'm pretty sure the one mine came with was Angstrom Aug 19 01:06:55 regardless, it looks like these debian images are for 7.5 Aug 19 01:07:14 Which I think is Wheezy Aug 19 01:07:35 jpfau: you might be right with your beaglebone black, but mine shipped with Debian Instead Aug 19 01:07:49 yeah, I have an A5A which is pretty old Aug 19 01:08:04 I think there's a file in /etc, maybe /etc/debian_release Aug 19 01:08:14 debian_version Aug 19 01:11:38 jpfau: thanks for the file path Aug 19 01:11:59 jpfau: It is Debian 7.6 and thats wheezy Aug 19 01:12:10 huh, the images are still for 7.5 on the website Aug 19 01:12:18 did you apt-get upgrade? Aug 19 01:12:34 I just did an apt-get update Aug 19 01:12:40 hmm Aug 19 01:12:42 * jpfau shrugs Aug 19 01:12:47 well you got your answer regardles Aug 19 01:12:49 s Aug 19 01:13:59 jpfau: Thanks, You are awesome :) Aug 19 01:14:11 libregeekingkid_: np, glad I could help :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 19 02:59:59 2014