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Aug 27 03:00:50 <nmschulte> rcn-ee: http://paste.debian.net/117785/
Aug 27 03:01:59 <nmschulte> the system seems flaky, so I've been munging things via sdcard for the time being (it's just annoying as it is rather infrequent and never at a good time)
Aug 27 03:02:09 <nmschulte> but I can muck with the live system no problem.
Aug 27 03:02:17 <rcn-ee> ah.. "3.6.0-x1" (board file) -> "3.17.0-rc1-arm7-x1" (device tree) that's a big jump... you also have to load the *.dtb
Aug 27 03:02:32 <nmschulte> so, I started in on that part
Aug 27 03:02:43 <nmschulte> but, I don't think there's much on this system I really need to keep in terms of data
Aug 27 03:03:05 <nmschulte> I wouldn't mind running jessie/sid (I run that on x86/amd64 all day), so there's that
Aug 27 03:03:33 <nmschulte> would it be simpler to just use the rebuilt latest's that you have made available and restore the little data I need?
Aug 27 03:03:40 <rcn-ee> this one is setup for that board: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#BeagleBoard_.28classic.29
Aug 27 03:04:22 <rcn-ee> i had to do a tweak for the non-xm's to get video working, that's why there is a seperate image for the beagle classic..
Aug 27 03:04:43 <nmschulte> Ah, I see.  Well, honestly I won't be using video, but I don't think that makes the situation easier.
Aug 27 03:05:49 <nmschulte> Is there any easy way to transition my data, with that setup?
Aug 27 03:05:53 <rcn-ee> you could dd a fresh image, then copy your old rootfs over it. (ignore /lib/modules/)
Aug 27 03:06:13 <nmschulte> and then I could aptitude dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie/sid?
Aug 27 03:06:18 <rcn-ee> yeap.
Aug 27 03:06:22 <nmschulte> I like it.
Aug 27 03:06:27 <nmschulte> ty vry mch
Aug 27 03:06:55 <rcn-ee> you could even just use rsync.. Just make sure not to touch /boot/ /opt/scripts/tools/, /lib/modules/*
Aug 27 03:07:07 <rcn-ee> then it should boot with your old image just fine..
Aug 27 03:07:10 <nmschulte> /lib/firmware is rolling?
Aug 27 03:07:39 <rcn-ee> unless you have a wifi adapter that needs firmware, nothing really important in theire..
Aug 27 03:07:57 <nmschulte> I will have one, but I can manage that via apt.
Aug 27 03:08:03 <nmschulte> I think?
Aug 27 03:08:32 <nmschulte> debian has a package for the firmwares that's arch indep. right>?
Aug 27 03:08:42 <rcn-ee> i usually just clone linux-firmware from kernel.org and stick that in /lib/firmware/
Aug 27 03:16:33 <nmschulte> sorry, got disconnected.
Aug 27 04:50:07 <RahulAN> hii all
Aug 27 04:53:45 <nmschulte> o/
Aug 27 04:59:40 <RahulAN> I want to listen audio with BT headset. what do i need
Aug 27 04:59:52 <nmschulte> What board do you ahve?
Aug 27 04:59:55 <RahulAN> i have BT headset BT dongle i installed mplayer
Aug 27 05:00:14 <RahulAN> beaglebone black
Aug 27 05:00:50 <nmschulte> I don't know much about bluetooth (never really used it), but you'll need a capable bluetooth adapter (as you say you have one)
Aug 27 05:01:01 <nmschulte> what system are you running on it?
Aug 27 05:02:06 <RahulAN> ubuntu
Aug 27 05:02:14 <RahulAN> BT is working fine
Aug 27 05:02:21 <RahulAN> it is scanning fine
Aug 27 05:02:40 <nmschulte> I think you just pair with your headset then
Aug 27 05:02:53 <RahulAN> ohkk
Aug 27 05:02:54 <nmschulte> and then your desktop enviroment (if it's default ubuntu) should setup the system-wide audio device
Aug 27 05:03:03 <nmschulte> it should *just work*
Aug 27 05:03:30 <nmschulte> are you using a [graphical] desktop environment?
Aug 27 05:11:31 <phs_silva> hello all
Aug 27 05:12:23 <RahulAN> nmschulte, yes i can use GUI but i am connected by ssh
Aug 27 05:13:09 <nmschulte> RahulAN: I don't know how to configure it via anything other than GNOME.  I know that bluez is the bluetooth stack, so you can start from there (Search that term)
Aug 27 05:16:42 <phs_silva> someone know say me because when i connected my BBB in my pc using only USB cable the leds turn off after 3 seconds and not turn on more?
Aug 27 05:19:06 <RahulAN> nmschulte, i am installing alsa utils
Aug 27 05:19:38 <nmschulte> RahulAN: are you running pulseaudio?
Aug 27 05:21:42 <RahulAN> nmschulte, i don't  know?
Aug 27 05:24:11 <RahulAN> nmschulte, how to find it?
Aug 27 05:24:18 <nmschulte> I don't know either, :/  I'm imagining you are using pulse audio if you are using ubuntu
Aug 27 05:24:44 <RahulAN> nmschulte, but here i got nothing by default
Aug 27 05:24:51 <nmschulte> RahulAN: you could join an Ubuntu help channel, as everything your asking is all Ubuntu related now (not specific to beagle)
Aug 27 05:25:21 <nmschulte> if you have a desktop environment installed on ubuntu, then you likely have pulse audio
Aug 27 05:27:56 <RahulAN> but nothing is there
Aug 27 05:41:18 <nmschulte> RahulAN: you mean there are no audio devices in the pulse audio manager?
Aug 27 05:42:35 <RahulAN> yes
Aug 27 05:43:15 <RahulAN> http://codepad.org/36vaTTiR  this is i am getting
Aug 27 05:45:45 <nmschulte> you don't have pulse it seems
Aug 27 05:45:52 <nmschulte> and your alsa configuration is incorrect
Aug 27 05:46:12 <nmschulte> how to set that up is beyond me; sorry
Aug 27 05:46:29 <nmschulte> you could try #linux or #ubuntu
Aug 27 05:47:49 <RahulAN> Ohkk
Aug 27 06:58:23 <RahulAN> it worked :) nmschulte
Aug 27 07:28:27 <nmschulte> RahulAN: awesome, :)
Aug 27 07:28:34 <RahulAN> :)
Aug 27 08:14:35 <cityoflights2> hitlin37: good morning
Aug 27 08:15:06 <hitlin37> good morning
Aug 27 08:29:02 <cityoflights2> problem with the debouncing issue , is that it is hard to come by ppl to discuss it
Aug 27 08:29:16 <cityoflights2> I mean software ppl say - solve it with hardware
Aug 27 08:29:42 <cityoflights2> and hardware ppl don't value using software
Aug 27 08:30:06 <cityoflights2> I still made a change last night, and now I am monitoring it
Aug 27 08:30:25 <cityoflights2> problem is that ever once in a while I see a single pulse
Aug 27 08:30:47 <cityoflights2> now it does make sense to disregard it
Aug 27 08:31:01 <cityoflights2> but the pattern of the pulses is odd
Aug 27 08:31:27 <cityoflights2> in total it took 7 min to water 3 litters - which makes sense
Aug 27 08:51:41 <hitlin37> You mean you are getting a single pulse, which is actually noise?
Aug 27 08:52:32 <hitlin37> well, that where embedded ppl come in. between software and hardware.
Aug 27 09:32:50 <cityoflights2> regarding tbr and the toilet water measurement, what is this used for?
Aug 27 09:33:10 <cityoflights2> hitlin37: what are you using the BBB for?
Aug 27 09:33:45 <tbr> cityoflights2: https://twitter.com/iotoilets
Aug 27 09:33:52 <hitlin37> I haven't been using bb lately, these days i'm doing my thesis in movie recommendation.
Aug 27 09:34:48 <cityoflights2> I also made a project similar to https://github.com/bgamari/heater-bone
Aug 27 09:35:02 <cityoflights2> I need to finish with my PCB for it
Aug 27 09:40:12 <hitlin37> tbr: pretty cool
Aug 27 09:41:42 <LetoThe2nd> hrhrhr home thermostat
Aug 27 09:43:30 <LetoThe2nd> the true reaseon why everybody does thermostats and nobody does the actual hydraulics control is: the first one is dead simple, the latter is very hard.
Aug 27 09:48:53 <cityoflights2> I have a bbb on my house water heater
Aug 27 09:49:39 <cityoflights2> was very useful at my previous flat which didn't have soler heating
Aug 27 09:50:02 <cityoflights2> but event now should be usefull as the solar sysem is 5 years old...
Aug 27 09:50:21 <cityoflights2> ok, going to eat,see ya later
Aug 27 12:38:38 <Ecco> Hi
Aug 27 12:38:43 <Ecco> I'm stuck :(
Aug 27 12:39:14 <Ecco> I'm interfacing with my BBB over serial
Aug 27 12:39:25 <Ecco> Uboots works fine
Aug 27 12:39:27 <cityoflights2> hitlin37: ok, I got news
Aug 27 12:39:32 <Ecco> I can boot the kernel just right and get all the debug messages
Aug 27 12:39:43 <Ecco> but for some reason, once the root filessytem is mounted, i don't get anything
Aug 27 12:40:03 <Ecco> The last message I get is "VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem)"
Aug 27 12:40:10 <cityoflights2> the main issue was that when I open the electric faucet I got 20 pulses from the water flow sensor
Aug 27 12:40:14 <Ecco> I'm expecting a login prompt
Aug 27 12:40:23 <Ecco> DO you know what I could be doing wrong?
Aug 27 12:40:28 <cityoflights2> 5.5 pulses - means 1 litre passed the sensor
Aug 27 12:41:29 <cityoflights2> so it seemed as if I pushed 4 liters on startup.
Aug 27 12:42:40 <cityoflights2> This struck me odd and I implemented the debouncing. but now I talk to a work mate, and realized its air being pushed out of the pipes
Aug 27 12:43:11 <hitlin37> Ecco: what system are you mounting? is it angstrom or debian?
Aug 27 12:43:17 <cityoflights2> which means the startup is different then after 2 min
Aug 27 12:44:07 <cityoflights2> so I need to adapt
Aug 27 12:46:51 <evil_dan2wik> cityoflights2, water conductivity testing?
Aug 27 12:47:25 <cityoflights2> hmm, did you use this?
Aug 27 12:47:47 <evil_dan2wik> I used it before to detect water.
Aug 27 12:48:14 <evil_dan2wik> If the probes are conductive, then water is present.
Aug 27 12:48:48 <evil_dan2wik> if not, then only air or non-conductive liquid is present.
Aug 27 12:49:41 <cityoflights2> my sensor is near the water outlet, then the pipe goes to the garden plants
Aug 27 12:49:56 <cityoflights2> so I can't really sense the state along the pipe
Aug 27 12:51:17 <Ecco> hitlin37: debian
Aug 27 12:51:27 <cityoflights2> in fact coming to think of it, I do loss the water left in the pipe, as when morning comes that water evaporates
Aug 27 12:53:12 <evil_dan2wik> cityoflights2, does it evaporate or slip back through the pump?
Aug 27 12:53:37 <evil_dan2wik> My garden pump has bad one-way valves
Aug 27 12:53:55 <evil_dan2wik> you turn it off and the water slips back down
Aug 27 12:53:58 <cityoflights2> hmm, good question, no idea
Aug 27 12:54:24 <cityoflights2> guess I will need to add a water one way filter
Aug 27 12:54:30 <evil_dan2wik> You would still need to work out if you are sensing water or air
Aug 27 12:54:44 <evil_dan2wik> unless you use a 1 way valve of course
Aug 27 12:55:00 <evil_dan2wik> since that would almost guarantee that there is water in the pipe
Aug 27 12:55:18 <cityoflights2> right
Aug 27 12:55:22 <cityoflights2> thanks
Aug 27 13:22:07 <milad> hello, is there anyway to access the emmc from a debian installed sd card?
Aug 27 13:22:32 <LetoThe2nd> certainly.
Aug 27 13:22:47 <milad> and how?!
Aug 27 13:23:07 <LetoThe2nd> if thats what you really want to know, why didn't you ask that right at the beginning? ;)
Aug 27 13:23:37 <milad> it seems u don't know the answer
Aug 27 13:23:45 <milad> your playing
Aug 27 13:23:46 <robmurrer> I've disabled the HDMI, but I still would like the clock on the P9.25 pin on the BBB.  Would muxing the pin to mode0 do this for me?
Aug 27 13:24:04 <milad> :D
Aug 27 13:24:18 <LetoThe2nd> milad: no, if you say "please" i'm actually willing to look it up. i just pointed out that your initial question was pointless.
Aug 27 13:25:00 <milad> my question was in 2 steps
Aug 27 13:25:06 <LetoThe2nd> e.g. pointless.
Aug 27 13:25:13 <milad> first ... then
Aug 27 13:25:41 <LetoThe2nd> well why are you complaining then that i answered the first question truthfully?
Aug 27 13:26:17 <milad> so i asked the secend part and u ...
Aug 27 13:27:53 <milad> everytime that i ask a question in this forum i encounter this kind of problems, it seems like a literal forum
Aug 27 13:28:00 <LetoThe2nd> i repeat:
Aug 27 13:28:11 <LetoThe2nd> 15:24 < LetoThe2nd> milad: no, if you say "please" i'm actually willing to look it up.
Aug 27 13:28:57 <milad> so don't look it up cause i won't say
Aug 27 13:29:08 <LetoThe2nd> no problem, you're welcome :)
Aug 27 13:29:19 <milad> u2
Aug 27 13:29:28 <Humpelst1lzchen> just tell him /proc/partitions already
Aug 27 13:29:46 <milad> thanks Humpelst1lzchen
Aug 27 13:29:58 <milad> but i want a practical way
Aug 27 13:30:08 <LetoThe2nd> Humpelst1lzchen: see why i didn't tell that?
Aug 27 13:30:19 * LetoThe2nd hands Humpelst1lzchen the "exact steps" hat
Aug 27 13:30:57 <milad> in my /dev theres on;y mmcblk0 and nothing else
Aug 27 13:31:22 <Humpelst1lzchen> hmpf.
Aug 27 13:31:24 <milad> in my /dev directory theres only mmcblk0 and nothing elsesorry i
Aug 27 13:31:31 <tbr> if /dev only contains one file then you have other problems
Aug 27 13:31:32 <milad> :D
Aug 27 13:31:59 <milad> ls mmcblk* shows this only
Aug 27 13:32:05 <milad> :D
Aug 27 13:36:02 <milad> i'm searching it in the internet and i place the answer here if i found.
Aug 27 13:37:28 <LetoThe2nd> as tbr already pointed out, probably the first step would be getting a proper/official/supported debian image ;)
Aug 27 13:38:28 <milad> tbr never say that
Aug 27 13:39:03 <LetoThe2nd> "then you have other problems". sounds pretty much like it :)
Aug 27 13:39:31 <milad> not as much as yours but yes i have this problem in my bbb
Aug 27 13:41:42 <tbr> milad: and which distribution are you running on your board?
Aug 27 13:41:58 <milad> debian 7
Aug 27 13:42:06 <tbr> and by that I mean where did you get the image?
Aug 27 13:42:28 <milad> from the beagleboard website
Aug 27 13:43:04 <LetoThe2nd> the get it once more and reinstall it. i can confirm that the image there easily give you.. some dev nodes ;)
Aug 27 13:43:20 <milad> i know how to access sd card when booting from emmc but i want a reverse way
Aug 27 13:43:45 <Humpelst1lzchen> reverse is the same
Aug 27 13:43:48 <tbr> I also see various devices if I look for /dev/mmc*
Aug 27 13:44:16 <milad> is your image flashed in mmc?
Aug 27 13:44:37 <tbr> no, I'm running debian from a µSD card
Aug 27 13:44:50 <LetoThe2nd> milad: you repeatedly stated booting from the uSD card, and we're talking about that.
Aug 27 13:45:54 <milad> tbr so what is the name of emmc that i should mount in your case
Aug 27 13:46:02 <milad> i mean dev file
Aug 27 13:47:15 <milad> <LetoThe2nd> don't step in . your conversation with me is finished
Aug 27 13:47:50 <LetoThe2nd> your wish is my command.
Aug 27 13:48:05 <milad> your welcome
Aug 27 13:48:13 <tbr> no need for me to care then either
Aug 27 13:48:21 <milad> so thanks
Aug 27 13:48:51 <milad> i think i found that
Aug 27 13:58:43 <milad> i think the level of knowledge here should realy grow beside litreture
Aug 27 13:58:53 <milad> i fixed the problem
Aug 27 14:00:15 <tbr> LetoThe2nd: heard that? stop reading books you jerk!
Aug 27 14:02:53 * LetoThe2nd instantly burns all his books, including the ones not even bought yet.
Aug 27 14:03:26 <LetoThe2nd> too bad he didn't tell us, so ne learning for us.
Aug 27 14:20:39 <Ecco> Damn, I really can't get this to work :-(
Aug 27 14:20:55 <Ecco> No matter how hard I try, my kernel won't go any further than "VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly"
Aug 27 14:21:23 <Ecco> Supposedly that's the point where it starts init, right? But I don't get anything. I was expecting at least a "No init found." as per kernel doc
Aug 27 14:21:30 <Ecco> Do you know what I might be doing wrong?
Aug 27 14:36:28 <keesj> Ecco: are you not seeing the output or doesn't it happen?
Aug 27 15:54:08 <Ecco> keesj: I don't know
Aug 27 15:54:15 <Ecco> Well, I rebuilt my kernel from scratch
Aug 27 15:54:16 <Ecco> and now it works
Aug 27 15:54:20 <Ecco> Weird :)
Aug 27 16:14:52 <pastorsx> hi all, i have some BBB but i cannot connect a USB-ethernet adapter in the usb host port... any idea how this can be fixed?
Aug 27 16:15:48 <LetoThe2nd> pastorsx: there have been and are some usb woes, yes. does it get detected when it is already plugged in during power on?
Aug 27 16:16:27 <pastorsx> no, it doens't detect it at all... the mini-usb is fine but the usb host... i just cannot get anything done with it
Aug 27 16:16:46 <pastorsx> try hotplug or not.. no difference
Aug 27 16:16:56 <tbr> how are you powering the board?
Aug 27 16:23:02 <pastorsx> i am using a 2A adapter... even plugged in the mini to see if it was in need of more current
Aug 27 16:28:57 <thurgood> pastorsx: does it not detect.. or is it not bringing the port up?
Aug 27 16:30:00 <pastorsx> well, i can see my eth0 and usb0 (mini)... nothing else
Aug 27 16:30:36 <thurgood> with ifconfig -a ?
Aug 27 16:32:12 <pastorsx> with -a, i see a rename3 which i have no clue what that is
Aug 27 16:32:33 <pastorsx> it has its own mac... but don't know if that's supposed to be the host usb, is it?
Aug 27 16:33:10 <pastorsx> i would have expected like a usb1
Aug 27 16:34:31 <thurgood> unplug it and see if that extra one disappears
Aug 27 16:37:56 <pastorsx> still there... so taht's not it ;-)
Aug 27 16:39:05 <pastorsx> might be a leftover of something else i tried at one point to try to get that usb host up...
Aug 27 16:42:02 <pastorsx> is there a module or driver taht needs to be installed for that to work?
Aug 27 16:49:45 <thurgood> yes, usb-ethernet devices require drivers... they may or may not have been built already
Aug 27 17:25:29 <elecia> Hi, I'm working on a BBB project that has a webcam and a LCD TFT display. I want to take stills with the web cam, save them to a directory, and then display all of the images from the directory on the screen. I can do this in python (simplecv) but I want something more lightweight (it runs for hours and hours, like a security system or a photoframe).
Aug 27 17:26:09 <elecia> Anyone have advice on the image grabber (from /dev/video0)? (I would use raspistill if it was the Other platform.)
Aug 27 17:26:49 <elecia> Also, does anyone have advice on a simple slideshow program? I'm looking at dvd-slideshow but it seems like a lot of stuff I don't need (movies in place of stills)
Aug 27 17:31:24 <Humpelst1lzchen> elecia: maybe gst-launch playbin2 uri=v4l2:///dev/video0 if gst is installed
Aug 27 17:39:08 <elecia> gstreamer looks like it has the tools I need... it isn't installed yet but I'll try it, thank you
Aug 27 17:48:33 <Luk_> hi folks o/
Aug 27 17:57:03 <Luk_> hi, I want your opnion about a power supply (I guess) problem with my beaglebone. Every time, when I plug in  the usb cable in PC the PWR LED just blink one time and shutdown before. What your guess?
Aug 27 17:58:34 <tbr> could be a missing boot system
Aug 27 18:03:10 <Luk_> thanks, I check this and will try reinstall a image on SD
Aug 27 18:37:50 <weatherhead99> hi all, anyone here experienced with TI's C compiler for the PRUs? I'm trying to work out how to reserve some DRAM to use for communication with the host
Aug 27 18:55:59 <Mustek> Hey, quick question about the manufacturer (BB Black). I understand that there are 2: Circuitco and Embest. Is there any difference in quality and chipsets, or are they basically the same?
Aug 27 21:25:23 <dolf> hey all. I have a strange thing with BBB running debian and udev. When I plugin a usb device (wifi card) it shows up with lsusb. But if I unplug it, it still shows up with lsusb
Aug 27 21:25:46 <dolf> how can this be?
Aug 27 21:32:47 <dolf> hmm, there seems to be a problem with hotplugging usb devices on the BBB
Aug 27 21:32:53 <dolf> looking at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/beagleboard/C6gMT2_FfiM/bdwVSeahD_sJ
Aug 27 21:40:04 <woglinde> excatly
Aug 27 21:51:41 <Mustek> Is there a difference in quality/components between the CircuitCo and Embest boards?
Aug 28 02:42:52 <ds2> hey rcn-ee: has anyone tried using ur latest kernel on a board with GigE?
Aug 28 02:44:02 <rcn-ee> The only ti board i have with GigE, i've booted only the v3.14-ti branch.. As that one isn't ready for mainline..  Does the am43xx have it? I need to open that box.
Aug 28 02:45:07 <rcn-ee> yeap, gibe on the am437x..  What issues are you seeing?
Aug 28 02:50:08 <ds2> rcn-ee: clocks not happy
Aug 28 02:50:31 <ds2> cpsw_125mhz_gclk is wrong
Aug 28 02:50:42 <ds2> 50MHz vs the expected 125MHz so the PHY is misclocked
Aug 28 02:50:58 <ds2> seems the problem appeared after the DT support for clocks went in
Aug 28 02:54:29 <ds2> seems like quite a bit of the clock tree is off
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