**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 02 02:59:58 2014
Dec 02 03:00:01 <gre2gor> problem is I am not a linux guy
Dec 02 03:02:11 <gre2gor> is it possible to give anyone ssh access and would be willing to do the installations for me?
Dec 02 03:02:49 <methuzla> try reading up on usb webcams and linux
Dec 02 03:03:08 <methuzla> kind of a generic thing, not really beagle specific
Dec 02 03:08:22 <gre2gor> No package 'libv4l2' found
Dec 02 03:09:56 <gre2gor> ok I managed to get it installed "sudo apt-get install libv4l-dev"
Dec 02 04:43:33 <simha> Hi good morning to All !!!
Dec 02 04:44:34 <simha> Any one has tested timers with beaglebone ?
Dec 02 04:51:07 <ddrown> simha: what kind of testing?
Dec 02 04:52:43 <simha> i heard for am335x total 8 timers were there
Dec 02 04:53:38 <ddrown> That sounds right
Dec 02 04:54:25 <simha> timers 1,2,5,6 are reserved for internal soc
Dec 02 04:54:29 <ddrown> I have a driver for them if you want a hardware capture pps from them https://github.com/ddrown/pps-gmtimer
Dec 02 04:55:34 <simha> we cant use 1,2,5,6 timers
Dec 02 04:58:08 <simha> apart from that any one timer tested ?
Dec 02 04:58:22 <simha> in linux
Dec 02 04:58:24 <ddrown> I'm using timer4
Dec 02 04:58:24 <simha> ?
Dec 02 04:58:59 <simha> using device tree concept ?
Dec 02 04:59:44 <ddrown> The driver I linked has a DT overlay file, yes
Dec 02 05:03:30 <simha> yes
Dec 02 05:04:08 <simha> but have you tested with linux kernel ?
Dec 02 05:04:16 <ddrown> Ok, goodnight
Dec 02 06:30:29 <saj> dear sir
Dec 02 06:31:24 <saj> we would like to know do beagle board has gigabit ethernet or
Dec 02 06:42:10 <av500> nope
Dec 02 07:35:28 <gre2gor> hello
Dec 02 07:35:53 <gre2gor> anyone here able to help me with beaglebone and logitech c920
Dec 02 07:37:56 <KotH> state your issue, send chocolate to swiss bank account, wait for further instructions
Dec 02 07:43:34 <gre2gor> :D
Dec 02 07:43:54 <gre2gor> I have Beaglebone black and logitech c920
Dec 02 07:44:06 <gre2gor> Have read and watched several tutorials
Dec 02 07:44:21 <gre2gor> but somehow I can not record video in 1920x1080
Dec 02 07:44:31 <gre2gor> @30fps
Dec 02 07:45:06 <gre2gor> My goal is to put this camera in our icehall and to be able to watch & record
Dec 02 07:49:29 <gre2gor> we need to give every visiting team a DVD or USB Stick with the game recorded
Dec 02 07:49:37 <KotH> "does not work" is not an error description
Dec 02 07:50:03 <KotH> what did you try and what result did you get
Dec 02 07:50:43 <gre2gor> there is no money behind this, it's absolutely free and I need to do this for my ice hockey club...
Dec 02 07:51:25 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: i see good intent, but reality says: don't do it, it will haunt you forever
Dec 02 07:51:35 <gre2gor> I just do not cope around... Now I do not know if it is my Beaglebone linux, how to choose SD card
Dec 02 07:52:02 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: plus, you will be annoyed by nonunderstanding people why "it didn'T work this time", it doesnt boot, whatever
Dec 02 07:53:00 <gre2gor> I know, but now I am doing wizh one HDD digital cam and quality of the recording is too bad, but we can not buy a camera worth 800$
Dec 02 07:53:34 <gre2gor> We also need this for video analysis
Dec 02 07:53:38 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: a hacked-up solution based on a random linux distro + some webcam just is no replacement for a customer-usable device that will be turned on and off at random times, mishandled in unusual ways, all in all just not treated in careful laboratories.
Dec 02 07:54:31 <gre2gor> I know, but with this camera stationed in icehall i could start/stop the recording everytime?
Dec 02 07:54:45 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: plus, on top, the BBB is neither a high-performance platform, nor is its usb extraordinarily reliable
Dec 02 07:55:35 <gre2gor> You think it could not work if i setup everything before the game and then record for half an hour?
Dec 02 07:56:02 <gre2gor> then pull of this video and restart the recording?
Dec 02 07:56:24 <dmelani> is anything on the bbb actually reliable?
Dec 02 07:56:27 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: i think it *might* work some time, but for the amount of time you will need to gather the needed knowledge to make it work, set it up, and fix it every time, you should investigate other ways.
Dec 02 07:57:01 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: so if you *absolutely* think you need to do it yourself, rather have someone donate an oldish computer, and run some stock linux/windows
Dec 02 07:57:15 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: this will save you at least the arm and embedded headaches.
Dec 02 07:59:12 <av500> dmelani: yes, many industrial folks use beagleboard
Dec 02 07:59:14 <gre2gor> I have previously tried to use my atom laptop
Dec 02 07:59:15 <av500> and bones
Dec 02 07:59:22 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: so?
Dec 02 07:59:36 <dmelani> av500: i'm just grumbling a bit because of i2c issues
Dec 02 07:59:41 <gre2gor> It did not work
Dec 02 07:59:48 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: "why"
Dec 02 07:59:49 <av500> why
Dec 02 07:59:50 <gre2gor> so I went and bought beaglebone
Dec 02 08:00:07 <av500> gre2gor: next time, please buy something off my amazon wish list
Dec 02 08:00:15 <av500> it wont get your video working either
Dec 02 08:00:19 <av500> but its a much better cause
Dec 02 08:01:08 <gre2gor> I have minlinux and elementary on my laptop
Dec 02 08:01:20 <av500> and?
Dec 02 08:01:27 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: that is no explanation
Dec 02 08:01:33 <gre2gor> I have recorded one video but it freezes for a sec or less every few seconds
Dec 02 08:01:43 <day> A atom notebook cant handle it, therefore you decided to try to do it with an arm based system???
Dec 02 08:01:44 <bremenpl> hello there. I have build an external video circuit based on TFP410 but I am not abble to configure the software to work with it. Maybe someone has some expirience in hdmi tree overlay configurations and would be willing to help me out?
Dec 02 08:01:53 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: so, what is your conclusion from that observation?
Dec 02 08:02:01 <av500> bremenpl: what hardware?
Dec 02 08:02:08 <bremenpl> bbb
Dec 02 08:02:16 <av500> bbb and tfp410?
Dec 02 08:02:19 <bremenpl> yes
Dec 02 08:02:29 <gre2gor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxJOFWYbXZ0
Dec 02 08:02:40 * av500 googles tfp410
Dec 02 08:02:41 <av500> :)
Dec 02 08:02:49 <gre2gor> this was done with my Atom laptop
Dec 02 08:02:52 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: i will not click random youtube links, i'm trying to have a meaningful conversation with you.
Dec 02 08:03:11 <gre2gor> it's a recording that I have made
Dec 02 08:03:11 <bremenpl> Ive tried for many days now, Im really desperate atm.
Dec 02 08:03:15 <gre2gor> there is no sound
Dec 02 08:03:18 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: you say "it freezes for a sec or less every few seconds" - so what is your conclusion from that observation?
Dec 02 08:03:30 <gre2gor> and I do not know how to get focus locked
Dec 02 08:03:44 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: you're actually evading my question.
Dec 02 08:03:46 <av500> ah, bratsvo i jedinstvo
Dec 02 08:03:51 <gre2gor> I have no idea, I have seen several videos with beaglebone
Dec 02 08:03:52 <bremenpl> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9xx76uoml17idmg/2014-11-20%2014.39.59.jpg?dl=0 This is how the circuit looks like. I can provide schematics
Dec 02 08:03:59 <gre2gor> so I thought I need a beaglebone
Dec 02 08:04:15 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: wrong conclusion
Dec 02 08:04:18 <av500> dont the BBB have HDMI already?
Dec 02 08:04:27 <bremenpl> it does
Dec 02 08:04:33 <bremenpl> I need it on the side of the board
Dec 02 08:04:50 <bremenpl> So I had to make a new circuit and connect it to the headers of bbb
Dec 02 08:04:51 <av500> bremenpl: thats a fancy short cable then?
Dec 02 08:04:55 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: the point is that if you 1.something GHz atom is unable the amount of data, why do you thing a smallish 800MHz arm will be able to do it?
Dec 02 08:05:16 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: the point is that if you 1.something GHz atom is unable the amount of data, why do you thing a smallish 800MHz arm will be able to do it?
Dec 02 08:05:30 <bremenpl> I thought of that, but I already had not to fancy short cables going from USB. I didnt know I would struggle with it for so long
Dec 02 08:05:59 <av500> ok, so what is the issue?
Dec 02 08:06:09 <av500> since stock BBB already does HDMI out
Dec 02 08:06:16 <av500> you should have all you need, no?
Dec 02 08:06:30 <av500> disable the onboard transmitter and use yours
Dec 02 08:06:40 <bremenpl> the problem Is that even thought I have disabled the standard HDMI tree overlay, and used mine (A modified version of no audio hdmi tree)
Dec 02 08:06:44 <gre2gor> sorry for the delay
Dec 02 08:06:51 <bremenpl> There is still no signal on the monitor
Dec 02 08:07:09 <gre2gor> I had to reload the page
Dec 02 08:07:10 <bremenpl> I have no idea why doesnt it work, I had the same thoughts as you did
Dec 02 08:07:18 <av500> bremenpl: and if you try the standard one?
Dec 02 08:07:33 <av500> also, there could be electrical errors
Dec 02 08:07:36 <bremenpl> it does work, but for now I have disabled it
Dec 02 08:07:37 <gre2gor> There are so much videos recorded with c920 and beaglebone hasslfree
Dec 02 08:07:39 <av500> checked all the singla lines?
Dec 02 08:07:48 <bremenpl> I have checked for electrical errors too
Dec 02 08:07:53 <bremenpl> yes
Dec 02 08:08:01 <av500> no, I mean the stock DTS file
Dec 02 08:08:06 <gre2gor> @av500: zdravo
Dec 02 08:08:06 <av500> just with your hdmi framer
Dec 02 08:08:11 <av500> gre2gor: :)
Dec 02 08:08:31 <bremenpl> the stock dts file works with regular hdmi connector
Dec 02 08:08:33 <gre2gor> @av500: ex yu?
Dec 02 08:08:43 <av500> mi smo svi pioniri :)
Dec 02 08:08:47 <av500> ne?
Dec 02 08:09:00 <gre2gor> @av500: sigurno :) sem bil pionir
Dec 02 08:09:19 * KotH demands subtitles!
Dec 02 08:09:26 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: i didn't say its impossible, i'm just saying that without deep knowledge and a lot of time spent you'll be unable to archieve that goal
Dec 02 08:09:41 <gre2gor> LetoThe2nd: I know
Dec 02 08:09:45 <av500> gre2gor: that camera already gives you h264 encodec data?
Dec 02 08:09:49 <av500> encoded
Dec 02 08:10:01 <gre2gor> av500: yes
Dec 02 08:10:02 <av500> bremenpl: in fact, you should be able to run both framers in parallel
Dec 02 08:10:17 <av500> gre2gor: then capture it pretty simple
Dec 02 08:10:20 <av500> is*
Dec 02 08:10:21 <gre2gor> LetoThe2nd: I know that is why I came here
Dec 02 08:10:28 <av500> just have to make sure your SD card is fast enough
Dec 02 08:10:41 <gre2gor> I could give SSH access to the beaglebone
Dec 02 08:10:49 <bremenpl> The framers are on different i2c busses
Dec 02 08:10:56 <av500> ah
Dec 02 08:11:06 <bremenpl> my framer doesnt have i2c at all, but the hdmi itself is connected to i2c2
Dec 02 08:11:17 <bremenpl> ill link the schematic part
Dec 02 08:11:19 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: as i'm no video guy, no need for me. well i did my best to warn you.
Dec 02 08:11:21 <gre2gor> I have spent many, many hours
Dec 02 08:11:33 <av500> you spent many hours doing what?
Dec 02 08:11:51 <av500> bremenpl: but the the tfp410 should just work
Dec 02 08:11:54 <gre2gor> av500: reading, watching, copy/pasting
Dec 02 08:11:58 <av500> signal timing would be the same
Dec 02 08:12:05 <bremenpl> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14154631/mechatronic/BeaglePrinter.PDF
Dec 02 08:12:19 <bremenpl> I know, thats why I dont understand this :(
Dec 02 08:12:31 <av500> also, the tfp410 has i2c, no?
Dec 02 08:12:40 <bremenpl> I really thought this is going to be zero changes implementation
Dec 02 08:12:59 <bremenpl> It does not, I connect directly to hdmi connecter via 3.3V -> 5V level shifter
Dec 02 08:13:02 <av500> bremenpl: so what did you end up with?
Dec 02 08:13:15 <av500> bremenpl: so how do you set it up`
Dec 02 08:13:16 <gre2gor> LetoThe2nd: thank you for your time...
Dec 02 08:13:16 <av500> up?
Dec 02 08:13:22 <bremenpl> With monitor connected to my circuit that doesnt display anything
Dec 02 08:13:32 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: better pity your own wasted time.
Dec 02 08:13:35 <bremenpl> ill paste my overlay file
Dec 02 08:14:12 <gre2gor> LetoThe2nd: i do not... I still hope I would be able to record and to stream this video
Dec 02 08:14:15 <av500> bremenpl: how do you set up the TFP if you did not connect i2c
Dec 02 08:14:17 <av500> ?
Dec 02 08:14:18 <bremenpl> I have disabled the standart dts file for hdmi, and enabled this modified one: http://pastie.org/private/j91tplpqnhymvvig1pc0rw
Dec 02 08:14:21 <av500> gre2gor: so what does not work?
Dec 02 08:14:29 <bremenpl> using default config via resistors
Dec 02 08:14:41 <av500> ah
Dec 02 08:14:43 <bremenpl> just like it was done in BeagleBone Mx
Dec 02 08:14:49 <bremenpl> this chip was used there
Dec 02 08:14:50 <gre2gor> av500: on my beaglebone? Nothing...
Dec 02 08:14:51 <av500> and do you see the signals on the scope?
Dec 02 08:15:17 <gre2gor> I have tried to use derekmolloy beagleboneCV
Dec 02 08:15:51 <bremenpl> I havent connected the scope yet tbh, I have only checked them with ohmo-meter
Dec 02 08:16:19 <gre2gor> but it seems I have missed something
Dec 02 08:16:22 <bremenpl> I still wonder either there are any software configuration related problems
Dec 02 08:16:54 <av500> bremenpl: if your chip is configured with resistors
Dec 02 08:17:01 <av500> then it should work in parallel to the onboard one
Dec 02 08:17:07 <av500> so use the stock DTS
Dec 02 08:17:19 <av500> unless the needed timing is different
Dec 02 08:17:23 <bremenpl> It havent worked with stock one too
Dec 02 08:17:23 <av500> which you can find out
Dec 02 08:17:36 <bremenpl> Also I have to disable audio, I need the pins
Dec 02 08:17:48 <bremenpl> well I have used the tfp410 driver in dts file
Dec 02 08:17:55 <av500> for now you need to get the TFP working
Dec 02 08:17:56 <gre2gor> av500: I tried to follow this tutorial too:
Dec 02 08:17:57 <gre2gor> http://zachhuff386.github.io/dashcam/
Dec 02 08:18:06 <bremenpl> compatible = "ti,tilcdc,tfp410";
Dec 02 08:18:06 <bremenpl> 				i2c = <&i2c2>;
Dec 02 08:18:16 <bremenpl> I have changed those 2 lines to fit my application
Dec 02 08:18:29 <gre2gor> av500: but i am stucked since I have no pacman
Dec 02 08:19:50 <av500> pacman is the arch package manager
Dec 02 08:20:33 <bremenpl> oh and theres one more difference- I am using 16 bit lcd signals instead of 24 like in classic beaglebone mx
Dec 02 08:20:45 <bremenpl> bbb also uses 16 bit with the on board TDA hdmi framer
Dec 02 08:20:55 <av500> yes
Dec 02 08:21:09 <av500> so the tfp in parallel should work
Dec 02 08:21:32 <bremenpl> Alright, ill try to tinker a bit more with the hardware
Dec 02 08:21:42 <bremenpl> how about the i2c connection?
Dec 02 08:21:53 <bremenpl> its a bot different config
Dec 02 08:22:34 <av500> what about it?
Dec 02 08:22:56 <bremenpl> the tda chip has i2c connected to it and passes a 5V i2c to the hdmi connector
Dec 02 08:23:14 <bremenpl> with the tfp chip i dont connect i2c to the chip, only directly to the connector
Dec 02 08:23:35 <bremenpl> shouldnt there be any communication between bbb and monitor on this level?
Dec 02 08:23:53 <av500> EDID
Dec 02 08:24:02 <bremenpl> in uenv?
Dec 02 08:24:07 <av500> no
Dec 02 08:24:19 <bremenpl> can you explain?
Dec 02 08:24:23 <av500> what you can try is to use 2 monitors
Dec 02 08:24:30 <av500> connect on to the stock connector
Dec 02 08:24:35 <av500> and the othert to the TFP
Dec 02 08:24:51 <av500> the stock framer should do all the EDID reading and resolution setup
Dec 02 08:25:04 <av500> and the TFP should run from the same signals
Dec 02 08:25:07 <av500> for a test
Dec 02 08:25:13 <bremenpl> thats an idea
Dec 02 08:25:16 <bremenpl> ill try that
Dec 02 08:25:20 <av500> did you connect the HDMI I2C on the TFP?
Dec 02 08:25:21 <bremenpl> thank you
Dec 02 08:25:25 <av500> at all
Dec 02 08:25:30 <bremenpl> no
Dec 02 08:25:46 <av500> then you need to force a resolution I guess
Dec 02 08:25:59 <bremenpl> Thats what one person suggested me i realise now
Dec 02 08:26:07 <bremenpl> do I do that in uEnv.txt?
Dec 02 08:26:38 <av500> thats one way
Dec 02 08:26:45 <av500> google should know
Dec 02 08:26:51 <bremenpl> ok, thanks
Dec 02 08:27:11 <bremenpl> Do you mind leaving me some contact info in case I had more problems? I wont bother you to much, I promise
Dec 02 08:27:23 <av500> you can find me here
Dec 02 08:27:24 <Humpelstilzchen> lol
Dec 02 08:27:46 <bremenpl> alright, thank you :P
Dec 02 08:28:17 * av500 updates amazon wish list
Dec 02 08:38:30 <woglinde> av500 new board?
Dec 02 08:39:34 <av500> I think I am done with boards: )
Dec 02 08:44:52 <KotH> woglinde: he is into tubes and pipes, these days
Dec 02 08:45:53 <av500> +11
Dec 02 08:46:12 <av500> the only ARM board I want is the MinnowMax
Dec 02 08:47:25 <KotH> av500: but you know, it's not a PC?
Dec 02 08:54:53 <bremenpl> av500 are you there?
Dec 02 08:55:45 <bremenpl> av500: I have just tested your idea: I have loaded the standart overlay file for HDMI and connected 2 monitors- 1 to the build connector and one to mines. IT WORKS
Dec 02 08:56:06 <bremenpl> I think i cried a little
Dec 02 08:57:02 <av500> aw
Dec 02 08:58:53 <bremenpl> okay so now, I actually have an i2c connected to the hdmi, why didnt it work to config everything only via tfp410?
Dec 02 08:59:25 <av500> because you need the EDID info
Dec 02 08:59:35 <av500> or force a fixed resolution
Dec 02 08:59:41 <av500> try e.g. to force 640x480
Dec 02 08:59:46 <av500> its a supported HDMI mode
Dec 02 08:59:57 <av500> once you manage to to that, remove one monitor
Dec 02 09:00:03 <av500> should still work
Dec 02 09:01:55 <bremenpl> ok, ill try that. But does it mean that using TFP410 I cant get EDID?
Dec 02 09:03:17 <av500> sure you can
Dec 02 09:03:23 <av500> BBXM did, no?
Dec 02 09:03:34 <bremenpl> tbh I dont know I didnt have that board
Dec 02 09:03:47 <av500> the schematics are not secret
Dec 02 09:04:08 <bremenpl> I did use its schematic for my design
Dec 02 09:04:29 <av500> so
Dec 02 09:04:36 <av500> how is edid wired up?
Dec 02 09:04:49 <bremenpl> is edid same as cec?
Dec 02 09:04:53 <av500> nope
Dec 02 09:05:56 <av500> on BB XM, the hdmi i2c goes to the CPU
Dec 02 09:06:07 <av500> page 9
Dec 02 09:06:53 <bremenpl> thats right, just like in my case
Dec 02 09:07:18 <av500> good
Dec 02 09:07:24 <bremenpl> I only use different i2c level shifer, but I see the connected monitor on the bus
Dec 02 09:07:27 <av500> so all you need is to make use of it
Dec 02 09:07:43 <bremenpl> thats what ive been trying to do for days :P
Dec 02 09:08:22 <srikanth> designed new board based out of benagle bone black hardware
Dec 02 09:09:05 <srikanth> board worked for two months fine, now we are seeing short on core and 3V3 voltages , what could be the reason\
Dec 02 09:09:32 <av500> send me a few boards and schematics
Dec 02 09:09:45 <av500> and gerber files
Dec 02 09:09:46 <srikanth> checked all possible causes , not able to trace out the reason
Dec 02 09:09:59 <av500> check impossible causes next
Dec 02 09:11:57 <srikanth> schematics is confidential , can you give some hints to resolve this problem
Dec 02 09:12:41 <srikanth> same problem is repeated for second working board also
Dec 02 09:13:03 <srikanth> is there ant programming related issue
Dec 02 09:13:23 <srikanth> SYS_5V is falling to 1.1V in both the cases
Dec 02 09:13:35 <srikanth> boards stopped working
Dec 02 09:13:58 <bremenpl> is there battery connected?
Dec 02 09:14:03 <srikanth> Can any one guess the probable cause
Dec 02 09:14:41 <bremenpl> srikanth: is there battery connected?
Dec 02 09:14:53 <srikanth> no battery connected, using external 5V for powering
Dec 02 09:15:07 <LetoThe2nd> srikanth: are you actually asking for free support to help you earn money on your product with confidential schematics?
Dec 02 09:15:09 <av500> srikanth: in the case of confidential schematics, I would propose you seek proffesional help
Dec 02 09:15:13 <KotH> srikanth: what was the last thing you did before the boards stopped working
Dec 02 09:15:19 <av500> not for free support here
Dec 02 09:15:21 <KotH> srikanth: also, you may hire me
Dec 02 09:15:25 <av500> KotH: eating lunch, why?
Dec 02 09:15:33 <KotH> av500: hehe :)
Dec 02 09:15:50 <LetoThe2nd> srikanth: you should probably hire a consultant that has amXXXX experience.
Dec 02 09:16:36 <Russ> KotH, what is the going cost right now (in units of quality chocolate)?
Dec 02 09:16:55 <bremenpl> srikanth: There are some issues where the bbb tries to connect to battery even though its not there. Try to short the ptc battery pin to gnd
Dec 02 09:17:00 <bremenpl> It helped me
Dec 02 09:17:26 <av500> I would try the 220V treatment
Dec 02 09:17:28 <av500> it helped me
Dec 02 09:18:00 <bremenpl> lol
Dec 02 09:18:02 <dmelani> bake in oven for 30 miutes or until crispy brown?
Dec 02 09:18:13 <srikanth> we have not done any rework, just removed the board from set up and put it back
Dec 02 09:18:13 <KotH> Russ: 1kg of läderach or teuscher per hour
Dec 02 09:18:19 <av500> dip in batter and deep fry
Dec 02 09:18:34 <dmelani> now that's be fun to see
Dec 02 09:18:38 <dmelani> that'd
Dec 02 09:18:47 <av500> srikanth: again, seek paid help
Dec 02 09:19:01 <av500> I dont see a point in helping commercial interest for free
Dec 02 09:19:54 <bremenpl> srikanth: I know, but there are some power supplies that sometimes dont have fast enough ramp. For some reason the power management IC (TPS65217C) needs fast ramp. If he doesnt get it it tries to switch to battery and if he fails he shuts down the sys_5v
Dec 02 09:21:01 <srikanth> ok I will try to connect PVC pin to GND
Dec 02 09:24:15 <srikanth> I did n't see any PTC pin for TPS65217 device, do you mean BAT1&2, BAT_SENSE pins to be grounded
Dec 02 09:24:58 <bremenpl> TS
Dec 02 09:25:04 <bremenpl> TP7
Dec 02 09:25:58 <srikanth> yes i found the TS pin , shall I connect this pin to GND
Dec 02 09:26:14 <srikanth> Right now it is floating
Dec 02 09:26:23 <bremenpl> yes, try to connect it to gnd
Dec 02 09:26:50 <srikanth> ok thanks i will try right away
Dec 02 09:31:19 <bremenpl> did it work?
Dec 02 09:31:27 * KotH hands bremenpl a piece of chocolate
Dec 02 09:35:43 <srikanth> just tried did not work
Dec 02 09:35:57 <gurki> it is actually still worth designing ones own linux board? oO
Dec 02 09:36:19 <bremenpl> sorry then, I dont know how to help
Dec 02 09:36:31 <bremenpl> i gues it was only a shield
Dec 02 09:36:36 <gurki> (this is actually a real question ... im a bit confused why one should do that. ppl can get them for like 20-30€ if u wanna go cheap)
Dec 02 09:36:36 <bremenpl> for bbb
Dec 02 09:36:44 <KotH> gurki: depending on volume, yes
Dec 02 09:36:47 <gurki> even if u want to sell ur own stuff with it ...
Dec 02 09:36:57 <gurki> i guess ud need quite a big volume ...
Dec 02 09:37:16 <KotH> big as in >1k/y
Dec 02 09:37:20 <gurki> i ve no experience how much money one needs to create ones own board ... but i guess ... a lot
Dec 02 09:37:32 <KotH> depending on what you need around the SoC it may start as low as 100/y
Dec 02 09:37:36 <gurki> this is no avr stuff i could design in like half an hour
Dec 02 09:37:48 <gurki> hmm
Dec 02 09:37:49 <KotH> it's not much more difficult
Dec 02 09:37:57 <KotH> the basic principles are the same
Dec 02 09:38:10 <gurki> oh. i expected it to be far more complicated tbh
Dec 02 09:38:18 <bremenpl> av500: I tried to set the default resolution in uEnv.txt file, but that havent helped- still no video on the screen. Do you have any hints regarding getting edid work with other i2c bus? I tried the elinux.org page but with no succes
Dec 02 09:38:26 <KotH> also the basic workflow: read data sheet, draw schematics, build prototype, whitewire, ...
Dec 02 09:38:48 <KotH> gurki: most people fail at step #1
Dec 02 09:38:54 <gurki> *g*
Dec 02 09:39:42 <bremenpl> well, i find it to be a lot harder to write software for operating system level apps that has to acces hardware than bare metal ones
Dec 02 09:40:02 <bremenpl> when i started to write for bbb i begged for an avr
Dec 02 09:40:08 <KotH> bremenpl: it's more complex, thus you need more knowledge what the system does
Dec 02 09:40:11 <gurki> writing your own lib for everything can be quite annoying ...
Dec 02 09:40:20 <KotH> bremenpl: _if_ you know how to deal with that, you can save quite a bit of time
Dec 02 09:40:22 <gurki> there are things between an avr and a bbb though ...
Dec 02 09:40:40 <KotH> gurki: yes, 32bit uC with some embedded OS
Dec 02 09:40:42 <bremenpl> sure, but bare metal arm isnt that hard too
Dec 02 09:40:53 <KotH> bremenpl: depends on what you are doing
Dec 02 09:41:07 <KotH> bremenpl: single task, no-irq is dead simple
Dec 02 09:41:22 <KotH> bremenpl: the moment you introduce multiple tasks and irqs it becomes not so simple
Dec 02 09:41:26 <gurki> well. if ure used to lets say the atmega stuff stm32 feels like heaven x)
Dec 02 09:41:43 <gurki> bad thing is: they happen to do funny stuff when u throw a rtos at it
Dec 02 09:41:59 <bremenpl> KotH: Yeah, I havent been doing the more expirienced stuff yet.
Dec 02 09:41:59 <KotH> wrong rtos then
Dec 02 09:42:28 <gurki> that might actually be the reason. thing is: if things get complicated i tend to just use a linux board ...
Dec 02 09:42:32 <KotH> bremenpl: i helped build a sw framework for a arm/cortex-m3 system... i know the perils there :)
Dec 02 09:42:47 <gurki> im sure it _can_ be done. thousands of ppl do it every day
Dec 02 09:42:52 <bremenpl> hardcore :P
Dec 02 09:43:09 <KotH> gurki: yes, going up the complexity ladder helps at times.. but not always. it's like throwing money at a problem :)
Dec 02 09:43:51 <KotH> bremenpl: there were only two hardcore parts: getting the timer system right (it was the very core of the framework) and getting usb to work
Dec 02 09:44:22 <bremenpl> I also feel like usb is the hardest to config peripheral
Dec 02 09:44:45 <KotH> yes
Dec 02 09:44:50 <KotH> it's also the most complex
Dec 02 09:44:50 <bremenpl> if not the libraries for avr, I dont know if i would have done it even there
Dec 02 09:45:19 <srikanth> any suggestions pls
Dec 02 09:45:27 <bremenpl> im out of ideas, sorry
Dec 02 09:45:51 <KotH> srikanth: as i said, you can hire me
Dec 02 09:46:05 <KotH> bremenpl: well.. it took me almost half a year to get it "right"
Dec 02 09:46:09 <gurki> im sry, but i tend to completely aggree with theese guys
Dec 02 09:46:29 <bremenpl> quite a time
Dec 02 09:46:35 <KotH> bremenpl: and i had a good usb debugger at hand and example code
Dec 02 09:47:02 <srikanth> Thanks to  bremenpl
Dec 02 09:47:07 <bremenpl> you mean like, you could stop on a breakpoint and not f**k up the usb sync?
Dec 02 09:47:18 <bremenpl> np
Dec 02 09:47:33 <KotH> bremenpl: nope. i could watch what happend on the wires
Dec 02 09:47:44 <bremenpl> like a scope :P?
Dec 02 09:47:46 <KotH> bremenpl: and have a peek on the data
Dec 02 09:47:54 <srikanth>  KotH  share your solution pls
Dec 02 09:47:56 <KotH> much better, including a protocol analyzer
Dec 02 09:48:01 <bremenpl> that sounds like a regular arm debbuger
Dec 02 09:48:05 <bremenpl> woah
Dec 02 09:48:06 <KotH> srikanth: sorry, i dont work for free
Dec 02 09:48:39 <KotH> bremenpl: the best thing was, digital inputs with a TDC, so you could debug race conditions in the code
Dec 02 09:48:55 <srikanth> board it self is not powering
Dec 02 09:49:04 <bremenpl> sound like expensive equipment
Dec 02 09:49:18 <KotH> bremenpl: 1k5usd
Dec 02 09:49:32 <KotH> worth every cent
Dec 02 09:49:32 <bremenpl> =p
Dec 02 09:49:47 <srikanth> sys_5v is pulled down to 1.1V , i guess TI  TPS device is doing this pull down
Dec 02 09:50:01 <KotH> bremenpl: known around here as "the other beagle" :)
Dec 02 09:50:02 <bremenpl> av500: are you still here?
Dec 02 09:50:16 <KotH> bremenpl: i think av500 is overthere
Dec 02 09:50:31 <bremenpl> KotH: whats known as other beagle?
Dec 02 09:50:51 <KotH> bremenpl: http://www.totalphase.com/products/beagle-usb480/
Dec 02 09:51:03 <srikanth> same case with two earlier working boards
Dec 02 09:51:25 <bremenpl> Koth: is there a beagle inside lol :P?
Dec 02 09:51:49 <KotH> lol
Dec 02 09:52:07 <srikanth> saw the link
Dec 02 09:52:10 <bremenpl> I gues a beagle could do that :d
Dec 02 09:52:12 <KotH> not exactly. the beagle480 is older than the bbb. probably as old as the original beagleboard
Dec 02 09:52:25 <bremenpl> well it has its price...
Dec 02 09:52:42 <KotH> for measurement equipment it's rather cheap
Dec 02 09:52:51 <KotH> and you get infinite software updates
Dec 02 09:52:53 <bremenpl> av500: Would you mind helping out a bit more?
Dec 02 09:53:02 <LetoThe2nd> srikanth: i repeat - people do not want to do free consulting for your commercial product. please go hire a professional consultant.
Dec 02 09:53:05 <bremenpl> thats nice at some point
Dec 02 09:53:15 <srikanth> bremenpl do you have any other ideas to try out
Dec 02 09:53:23 <LetoThe2nd> srikanth: this is the last warning, further repetitions of your questions will not be tolerated.
Dec 02 09:53:26 <bremenpl> well yeah, im used to see stuff for more than 10k at university
Dec 02 09:53:37 <KotH> bremenpl: if i'd ever do another project where i'd have to deal with low level usb, i'd buy another one
Dec 02 09:53:43 <KotH> bremenpl: it's really worth teh money
Dec 02 09:53:44 <bremenpl> srikanth: sorry, that was the only thing I thought of
Dec 02 09:54:12 <bremenpl> Koth: I can believe that
Dec 02 09:54:19 <KotH> srikanth: hint, listen to LetoThe2nd or you will feel his metäl warth
Dec 02 09:56:05 <bremenpl> Koth: Are you maybe familiar with edid setting in bbb?
Dec 02 09:56:32 <KotH> sorry, not at all
Dec 02 09:57:04 <KotH> just wait, av500 will come back. he probably went out for lunch already
Dec 02 09:57:06 <bremenpl> Koth: just from curiosity, are u an electronic engineer?
Dec 02 09:57:12 <bremenpl> alright
Dec 02 09:57:19 <KotH> yes
Dec 02 09:57:35 <bremenpl> KotH: ok
Dec 02 09:57:36 <KotH> Dipl. El.ing ETH :)
Dec 02 09:57:51 <bremenpl> whats eth :P
Dec 02 09:58:06 <KotH> www.ethz.ch
Dec 02 09:58:12 <srikanth> can any one has full working details of TI TPS65217 device working ,what is the reason for pulling SYS_5V to 1.1V by TPS device
Dec 02 09:58:38 <KotH> LetoThe2nd: +1
Dec 02 09:58:47 <bremenpl> KotH: Oh you live in Zurich?
Dec 02 09:58:55 <KotH> yes
Dec 02 09:58:56 * LetoThe2nd bows "At your service"
Dec 02 09:59:14 <bremenpl> KotH: thats nice, im from low cost area. Some know it as Poland
Dec 02 09:59:21 <KotH> i know
Dec 02 09:59:22 <KotH> :)
Dec 02 09:59:27 <bremenpl> =p
Dec 02 10:00:58 <bremenpl> I feel like bbb would be the perfect board if it had one more thing- usb host and device available on the headers. But Mr Coley said that would be to much of a hardware rework when they did rev C
Dec 02 10:01:25 <KotH> yes, wiring usb to two places is a pain
Dec 02 10:01:38 <KotH> and you can fuck up a lot of things... especially the user can
Dec 02 10:01:51 <bremenpl> KotH: thats what I do now- I have 2 short cables that are wired to the cape
Dec 02 10:02:00 * KotH usually recommends to use some SOM for commercial development
Dec 02 10:02:24 <KotH> easier to connect to and SOMs have usually less EMI issues
Dec 02 10:03:01 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: ++
Dec 02 10:03:22 <bremenpl> yeah they look nice, but for me it was the community that lead me to bbb. And its proce of course, its just for the university project
Dec 02 10:03:55 <bremenpl> there also a company called systec that makes boards simmilar to that SOM, but they are a lot weaker, like arm 9
Dec 02 10:04:25 <KotH> there is also phytec and teratec :)
Dec 02 10:04:52 <KotH> but for one-off projects for hobby and university, the bbb is probably the right choice
Dec 02 10:05:42 <bremenpl> well i would love to build more on it, but yes i think the support is the richest here
Dec 02 10:08:16 <KotH> yes
Dec 02 10:08:50 <bremenpl> Koth: Maybe you could help me with another thing... Entering the bbb world I have faced one thing thats a wall for me- I have no idea how to take interrupts yo userspace app. It feels like I have to do everything by pooling.
Dec 02 10:09:04 <KotH> you dont :)
Dec 02 10:09:23 <KotH> you handle the irq in a kernel driver  (for most peripherals, the driver already does this)
Dec 02 10:09:35 <KotH> then you use select/poll on the file handle you have
Dec 02 10:09:53 <bremenpl> KotH: Does this take a lot of resource?
Dec 02 10:10:29 <KotH> very few
Dec 02 10:10:50 <KotH> you basicall tell the kernel to "wake me up when the driver says he has data"
Dec 02 10:11:16 <bremenpl> KotH: That would be really great- Do you have maybe any resource that I could read from? I tried to find it, but like everywhere i went it said that its not possible
Dec 02 10:11:29 <KotH> for details on this approach (on the user space side) see "advanced programming in the unix environment"
Dec 02 10:11:38 <KotH> or the manpages of select(2) and poll(2)
Dec 02 10:11:53 <bremenpl> KotH: How aboyt kernel side?
Dec 02 10:12:03 <KotH> there you want to read ldd3
Dec 02 10:12:06 <bremenpl> KotH: I think thats where the most of the problem lies for me
Dec 02 10:12:16 <bremenpl> KotH: Ok, thank you
Dec 02 10:12:18 <KotH> get both books
Dec 02 10:12:33 <bremenpl> KotH: What do you mean books
Dec 02 10:12:38 <KotH> you will need the ldd3 for the kernel stuff and the apue for the user space stuff
Dec 02 10:12:48 <KotH> ldd3 and apue are books :)
Dec 02 10:13:20 <KotH> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programming_in_the_Unix_Environment
Dec 02 10:13:54 * LetoThe2nd would throw in kerrisks "the linux programming interface"
Dec 02 10:14:01 <KotH> http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
Dec 02 10:14:24 <bremenpl> this 1st book is only 2 years younger than me
Dec 02 10:14:42 <KotH> lol
Dec 02 10:15:27 <bremenpl> I do have embedded linux primer, but I dont know either it covers this topic
Dec 02 10:15:33 <KotH> LetoThe2nd: oh.. i should add that book on my recommendation list
Dec 02 10:15:37 <KotH> LetoThe2nd: and to my library :)
Dec 02 10:16:00 <KotH> the embedded primer falls short to cover a very wide topic
Dec 02 10:16:12 <KotH> also it expects you to know a lot of things about how a linux system works
Dec 02 10:16:30 <bremenpl> Yeah i found it hard to read
Dec 02 10:16:56 <bremenpl> thank you for the book titles, I hoped for a faster solution, but that doesnt happen to often.
Dec 02 10:17:51 <KotH> sorry, there isnt
Dec 02 10:18:02 <LetoThe2nd> bremenpl: the faster solution than actually reading kerrisks book is to attend one of his trainings, i can actually recommend him as a very good presentator and competent trainer.
Dec 02 10:18:36 <KotH> bremenpl: a more fun solution is to attend some conferences and have a beer or two with people ;)
Dec 02 10:18:36 <bremenpl> LetoThe2nd: I would love to attend courses, but as I asid im from Poland :(
Dec 02 10:18:52 <bremenpl> KotH: I lack community here
Dec 02 10:19:11 <KotH> bremenpl: there is no embedded communit per se
Dec 02 10:19:18 <LetoThe2nd> bremenpl: (i was not being completely serious on that, kerrisks trainings are quite expensive actually)
Dec 02 10:19:31 <KotH> bremenpl: these people are distributed over the whole world and meet up at conferences
Dec 02 10:19:38 <KotH> bremenpl: mostly ELC/ELCE
Dec 02 10:20:09 <bremenpl> lets say theres not much community around my close area, I mostly learn from the internet
Dec 02 10:24:08 <KotH> as i said, there is no local community. at least i'm not aware of any
Dec 02 10:24:13 <KotH> not in europe
Dec 02 10:24:39 <KotH> i recommend trying to go to fosdem
Dec 02 10:24:47 <KotH> there aint no cheaper conference in europe
Dec 02 10:24:52 <KotH> and probably none that is more OSS
Dec 02 10:25:18 <bremenpl> i see
Dec 02 10:25:55 <LetoThe2nd> well it depends, we actually have a kind-of embedded discussion/LUG in munich
Dec 02 10:25:58 <KotH> if you go, make sure you arrive on friday, so you are there for the social event
Dec 02 10:26:09 <bremenpl> :d
Dec 02 10:26:16 <KotH> LetoThe2nd: interesting
Dec 02 10:27:44 <LetoThe2nd> http://www.denx.de/wiki/Rtlug-muc/WebHome
Dec 02 10:28:52 * KotH wonders what the reason was to move the meeting to düsseldorf in october
Dec 02 10:31:31 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: hrhrhr
Dec 02 10:31:54 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: the fun part is, we have quite a bit of high class embedded companies in munich
Dec 02 10:32:30 <KotH> yes, seems like
Dec 02 10:32:46 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: the meetup is more like a dinner where we discuss varies weirdo topics, not always embedded or even linux related.
Dec 02 10:32:55 <KotH> as usual :)
Dec 02 10:33:23 * KotH had discussions about video coding at aikdo meetings :)
Dec 02 10:33:49 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: one of the classics there: http://www.libferris.com/
Dec 02 10:34:25 <KotH> the page talks about node.js
Dec 02 10:34:51 <LetoThe2nd> KotH: just ignore it, read the about
Dec 02 10:35:02 * KotH is on it
Dec 02 10:36:04 <KotH> hmm.. looks interesting
Dec 02 10:36:24 * KotH makes a me(n)tal note to ask LetoThe2nd if he ever needs such a system
Dec 02 10:44:28 <bremenpl> av500: any chance you here?
Dec 02 10:58:41 <av500> bremenpl: always
Dec 02 10:58:54 <bremenpl> av500: hi
Dec 02 10:59:06 <bremenpl> av500: would you mind helping me out firther with the edid setting?
Dec 02 11:00:37 <av500> just ask, dont ask to ask
Dec 02 11:02:03 <bremenpl> av500: Well I am not sure how to enable edid for my tfp410 chip recognition. I tried the elinux.org page but didnt find any help
Dec 02 11:02:24 <bremenpl> av500: also tried setting it to fixed resolution in uEnv.txt
Dec 02 11:02:24 <av500> how is it done for the onboard framer?
Dec 02 11:02:33 <av500> how is it done on the XM?
Dec 02 11:03:18 <bremenpl> av500: Im not sure tbh, There are no signs of configuration in Uenv file on bbb. I dont have the Mx board so i dont know
Dec 02 11:04:25 <av500> you dont need to own the actual hardware :)
Dec 02 11:07:18 <bremenpl> av500: cant find anything :|
Dec 02 11:07:18 <av500> bremenpl: on the onboard framer the I2C bus goes to the framer and then to the AM335x on I2C0
Dec 02 11:07:41 <av500> on the XM, it goes directly to the CPU I2C bus
Dec 02 11:07:50 <bremenpl> thats right
Dec 02 11:08:07 <bremenpl> i gues the tda chip has a level shifter in its body
Dec 02 11:08:08 <av500> so I guess you need to tell the display driver to use the other i2c bus for EDID
Dec 02 11:08:12 <gurki> hum. how bit a realtimelinuxnerd do i have to be to meet there with u? actually sounds nice :)
Dec 02 11:08:30 <bremenpl> Yes i know, I just have no idea how to set that
Dec 02 11:08:31 <gurki> im always happy to ve a reason to come back to munich :)
Dec 02 11:13:54 <gre2gor> Is there any step by step tutorial for Beaglebone & Logitech c920 webcam
Dec 02 11:14:03 <bremenpl> av500: I thought I was telling the driver to use the other i2c in the tree overlay file but that didnt work as I showed you at the very beggining
Dec 02 11:14:12 <bremenpl> I think derek molloy had one
Dec 02 11:14:58 <av500> gre2gor: didnt you ask that all a few hours before?
Dec 02 11:15:24 <gre2gor> av500: I hoped there is somebody new here
Dec 02 11:15:41 <bremenpl> gre2gor: I think derek molloy has one
Dec 02 11:15:48 <av500> thats not how it works
Dec 02 11:16:02 <gre2gor> av500: that would guide me or that would be willing to ssh into my beaglebone
Dec 02 11:16:24 <gre2gor> bremenpl: I watched and tried, but I get a frozen image
Dec 02 11:16:25 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=Beaglebone+Logitech+c920
Dec 02 11:17:32 <bremenpl> av500: Do you know any other way of changing the i2c bus than tree overlay?
Dec 02 11:18:30 <gurki> gre2gor then you might just want to look for the problem. just trying another tutorial isnt exactly the way to go
Dec 02 11:18:50 <gre2gor> av500: I am googling for some time now, unfortunately I do not have experience in Linux
Dec 02 11:18:59 <av500> thats bad
Dec 02 11:19:10 <av500> I would recommend you get some first
Dec 02 11:19:46 <av500> because otherwise running and debugging a linux system is kinda hard
Dec 02 11:19:58 <gre2gor> Before buying a beaglebone I watched and read the tutorials, it looked so straightforward
Dec 02 11:20:33 <av500> I thought the same before I bought a violin
Dec 02 11:20:35 <gurki> everything looks straightforward in a tutorial
Dec 02 11:20:44 <bremenpl> gre2gor: I feel that happens only with raspberry pi
Dec 02 11:21:02 <av500> can somebody ssh into my violin plz?
Dec 02 11:21:30 <gurki> did you open the violinport in your router? x)
Dec 02 11:21:43 <gre2gor> just a quick headsup: What can I do with https://github.com/csete/bonecam
Dec 02 11:22:18 <gre2gor> i did git clone https://github.com/csete/bonecam
Dec 02 11:22:20 <av500> you can make a "IP camera based on Logitech webcam, Beaglebone and gstreamer"
Dec 02 11:22:51 <av500> but as a noob, I would stay away from stuff that says "work in progress"
Dec 02 11:23:10 <gre2gor> but in readme there is no how to build and to run bonecam
Dec 02 11:23:25 <av500> I guess that is work in progress too
Dec 02 11:23:58 <LetoThe2nd> av500: plz tell ssh-port-user-pass of your violin
Dec 02 11:24:03 <av500> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/gpu/drm/tilcdc/tilcdc_tfp410.c
Dec 02 11:24:08 <av500> LetoThe2nd: GDAE
Dec 02 11:24:28 <av500> the password is paganini
Dec 02 11:24:46 <LetoThe2nd> hrhr
Dec 02 11:24:50 <av500> that thing was damn expensive, some dead italian built it
Dec 02 11:25:12 <LetoThe2nd> mussolini?
Dec 02 11:25:19 <av500> bremenpl: looking at the driver, I2C should be changeable via DT
Dec 02 11:25:37 <av500> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/gpu/drm/tilcdc/tilcdc_tfp410.c#L309 ff
Dec 02 11:26:08 <ogra_> paganini ... how uncreative ... ii would have ecpected something like the brown note
Dec 02 11:26:38 <av500> and stupiod insurance company insists I keep the violin inside all the time...sigh
Dec 02 11:26:45 <bremenpl> av500: well, I did change the i2c in the dt. Ill try again
Dec 02 11:26:55 <av500> bremenpl: can you pastebin the full boot log with your DT
Dec 02 11:27:10 <bremenpl> av500: ok ill do
Dec 02 11:27:11 <gre2gor> Ok... I was wrong... hoped to get some help. I did not come here first before trying to learn something. I watched numreous projects and read them all. I admit I am confused and I hoped to get sam real help instead of mocking me...
Dec 02 11:27:28 <gurki> gre2gor: we would help you if you would actually ask a question
Dec 02 11:27:34 <av500> gre2gor: I dont know how to help you
Dec 02 11:27:42 <av500> I cannot hand hold you
Dec 02 11:27:48 <av500> you have to tell us what you did
Dec 02 11:27:51 <av500> and where that failed
Dec 02 11:27:59 <av500> because we cannot see your screen
Dec 02 11:28:02 <av500> or inside your head
Dec 02 11:28:07 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: nobody is mocking you. the base problem is that you incredibly underestimate the complexity of the problem, and overestimate whats ready for you to take and use.
Dec 02 11:28:15 <gre2gor> I have a beaglebone and camera... I just want to stream or to record HD video to my SD card with sound
Dec 02 11:28:22 <av500> if you followed a tutorial, where did it fail?
Dec 02 11:28:26 <LetoThe2nd> gre2gor: like i said - i wanred you. you should not take it perosnal.
Dec 02 11:29:01 <av500> instead of lamenting, tell us exactly what went wrong
Dec 02 11:29:37 <gre2gor> that is the problem... I do not know what went wrong :D
Dec 02 11:29:41 <av500> if you take your car to the shop because it "makes a funny noise", they will happily change the engine for €10k
Dec 02 11:29:43 <gre2gor> it just does not work
Dec 02 11:29:54 <bremenpl> av500: http://pastie.org/9755843
Dec 02 11:30:10 <av500> bremenpl: nope
Dec 02 11:30:15 <av500> no kernel logs at all
Dec 02 11:30:19 <av500> only uboot
Dec 02 11:30:26 <av500> no kernel log, no debug
Dec 02 11:30:29 <av500> no cookie
Dec 02 11:31:21 <av500>   6.715811] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: BB-BONELT-HDMIN1 conflict P8.45 (#5:BB-BONELT-HDMI)
Dec 02 11:31:23 <av500> [    6.725557] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Failed verification
Dec 02 11:31:34 <av500> but "conflict" should tell you that something did not work
Dec 02 11:31:35 <bremenpl> av500: yes i think i forgot to disable one dt
Dec 02 11:31:49 <av500> capemanager?
Dec 02 11:31:52 <bremenpl> av500: but its an error that didnt occur before i need to check uenv.txt
Dec 02 11:31:53 <av500> is that a recent debian?
Dec 02 11:32:01 <bremenpl> its a console version
Dec 02 11:32:32 <bremenpl> root@beaglebone:/# uname -a
Dec 02 11:32:32 <bremenpl> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 21 21:24:58 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
Dec 02 11:34:17 <bremenpl> root@beaglebone:~# cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
Dec 02 11:34:18 <bremenpl>  0: 54:PF---
Dec 02 11:34:18 <bremenpl>  1: 55:PF---
Dec 02 11:34:18 <bremenpl>  2: 56:PF---
Dec 02 11:34:18 <bremenpl>  3: 57:PF---
Dec 02 11:34:18 <bremenpl>  4: ff:P-O-L Bone-LT-eMMC-2G,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G
Dec 02 11:34:20 <bremenpl>  5: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI
Dec 02 11:34:22 <bremenpl>  6: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMIN,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMIN
Dec 02 11:34:24 <bremenpl>  7: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,BB-BONELT-HDMIN1
Dec 02 11:34:32 <bremenpl> now everything is disabled, only mmc and my hdmi dt is working
Dec 02 11:35:58 <bremenpl> I get this message before the login:
Dec 02 11:36:00 <bremenpl> [    6.481787] tilcdc 4830e000.fb: no encoders/connectors found
Dec 02 11:36:00 <bremenpl> [    6.487828] tilcdc 4830e000.fb: failed to initialize mode setting
Dec 02 11:37:15 <bremenpl> av500: Could you tell me about the other debug method you were talking about?
Dec 02 11:38:01 <av500> bremenpl: cant you paste the full log?
Dec 02 11:38:30 <bremenpl> av500: But I dont know which log you mean. The startup log thats on the uart line?
Dec 02 11:39:08 <bremenpl> http://pastie.org/9755867
Dec 02 11:41:11 <av500> bremenpl: yes
Dec 02 11:41:34 <bremenpl> av500: Okay i have pasted it
Dec 02 11:41:39 <av500> thats all?
Dec 02 11:41:46 <bremenpl> yes
Dec 02 11:41:55 <bremenpl> here is the debug log from var
Dec 02 11:42:41 <av500> yes, remove it
Dec 02 11:43:00 <av500> and, is it better?
Dec 02 11:43:52 <av500> as said, seek professional help
Dec 02 11:44:02 <av500> or send us schematics and gerbers so we can have a look
Dec 02 11:44:14 <bremenpl> av500: but remove what?
Dec 02 11:44:32 <LetoThe2nd> av500: just deop yourself and be fine. +q is set
Dec 02 11:45:37 <ssk> hi
Dec 02 11:46:11 <ssk> BBB Ethernet not working, any one help me to fix\
Dec 02 11:47:22 <av500> bremenpl: remove?
Dec 02 11:47:30 <LetoThe2nd> ssk: maybe elaborate a bit on "not working"?
Dec 02 11:47:30 <av500> ah
Dec 02 11:47:36 <av500> bremenpl: was not meant for you
Dec 02 11:47:41 <av500> talking to a ghost
Dec 02 11:47:46 <bremenpl> av500: okay i was confused :P
Dec 02 11:48:12 <tbr> ssk: define "not working"
Dec 02 11:48:20 <bremenpl> av500: So do you need the log from /var?
Dec 02 11:48:33 <bremenpl> av500: its extremally long
Dec 02 11:50:37 <bremenpl> av500: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14154631/mechatronic/debug
Dec 02 11:51:00 <av500> ah there are my kernel logs
Dec 02 11:51:05 <bremenpl> av500: :d
Dec 02 11:51:13 * KotH hugs bremenpl 
Dec 02 11:51:19 <KotH> it will be alright
Dec 02 11:51:30 <KotH> the biggest OSS developer is out there, helping you
Dec 02 11:51:38 <bremenpl> KotH: :D
Dec 02 11:52:16 <KotH> bremenpl: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/87
Dec 02 11:52:27 <av500> hrm, why do they all repeat all the time
Dec 02 11:52:34 <av500> can that debian image now have normal boot logs?
Dec 02 11:52:38 <av500> or do I have to blame systems
Dec 02 11:52:41 <av500> systemd
Dec 02 11:52:46 <KotH> blame systemd
Dec 02 11:52:53 <av500> I do
Dec 02 11:52:55 <KotH> it's always the right choice if you cannot blame av500
Dec 02 11:53:00 <av500> bremenpl: what image is that?
Dec 02 11:53:14 <av500> I would kindly ask you to go to the lastest Debian for BBB avialable
Dec 02 11:53:21 <av500> that wont have capemanager any more
Dec 02 11:53:34 <av500> but at least you are not on some stranded side branch
Dec 02 11:53:38 <av500> and go from there
Dec 02 11:54:13 <bremenpl> av500: well as far as i know it is a regular debian image, that is just cutover
Dec 02 11:54:28 <bremenpl> it doesnt have gui and takes only 200mb. It fits in my old bbb rev b
Dec 02 11:54:58 <av500> the latest images should also fit your rev B
Dec 02 11:54:59 <bremenpl> ive read recently that some guy that develops systemd was threatend by someone. Was that u...?
Dec 02 11:55:03 <av500> as said, capemanger is gone
Dec 02 11:55:08 <av500> bremenpl: no
Dec 02 11:55:19 <av500> I even hugged him once
Dec 02 11:55:33 <bremenpl> av500: some celeb irc this is :D
Dec 02 11:55:46 <av500> where?
Dec 02 11:55:52 <bremenpl> the one im in
Dec 02 11:56:01 <bremenpl> *channel
Dec 02 11:56:40 <bremenpl> is this the issue? http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Loading_custom_capes
Dec 02 11:56:40 <av500> no, I mean the celebs?
Dec 02 11:56:44 <bremenpl> u
Dec 02 11:57:04 <bremenpl> and Koth ia a part of cortex m3
Dec 02 11:57:47 <KotH> i'm not a part of c-m3
Dec 02 11:58:13 <bremenpl> KotH: I thought you said u were partly working on it
Dec 02 11:58:38 <KotH> oh.. i used to
Dec 02 11:58:42 <KotH> well.. i still do
Dec 02 11:59:03 <bremenpl> in a pararel universe you guys would be celebrities
Dec 02 11:59:04 <KotH> but more on some crapy c++ code that should never have been written, much less paid for or used
Dec 02 11:59:15 <bremenpl> ohh
Dec 02 11:59:16 <KotH> well, av500 is a celebrity
Dec 02 11:59:33 <bremenpl> yea he hugged the gu who makes systemd
Dec 02 11:59:48 <KotH> yes, and we hate him for that
Dec 02 12:00:07 <bremenpl> lol
Dec 02 12:00:11 <hewball> haha
Dec 02 12:01:30 <bremenpl> av500: Getting another image for the beagle now will take me ages to get everything configured back to the state I have now. Like the qt libs etc. Could you tell me what do you think is the case?
Dec 02 12:02:54 <av500> qt libs are orthogonal to your TFP issues
Dec 02 12:03:12 <av500> when debugging hardware, its best to be on the lastest release
Dec 02 12:07:31 <bremenpl> im suing image from this date 2014-11-11
Dec 02 12:07:50 <bremenpl> or should I install jessie?
Dec 02 12:07:57 <av500> what image?
Dec 02 12:08:16 <av500> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Dec 02 12:08:21 <bremenpl> Console: Flasher: (202Mb used)
Dec 02 12:08:23 <av500> I see Debian (BeagleBone, BeagleBone Black - 2GB SD) 2014-05-14
Dec 02 12:08:26 <av500> as latest
Dec 02 12:08:46 <bremenpl> i went to elinux.org
Dec 02 12:08:55 <bremenpl> so the image you see is older than mine
Dec 02 12:09:18 <bremenpl> does that mean i have the latest one or i have a testing one?
Dec 02 12:09:53 <av500> actually I have no idea
Dec 02 12:10:38 <bremenpl> in the elinux page it says its impossible to load dt over capemgr.enable_partno=
Dec 02 12:10:47 <bremenpl> I did try that but it didnt work
Dec 02 12:10:48 <av500> no its ok
Dec 02 12:10:51 <av500> stick with that for now
Dec 02 12:10:55 <bremenpl> ok
Dec 02 12:11:09 <av500> ah well
Dec 02 12:11:12 <av500> if you read that page
Dec 02 12:11:20 <av500> you will see that it lists there under "testing"
Dec 02 12:11:27 <av500> and releases points to the link I gave you :)
Dec 02 12:11:50 <bremenpl> damn :(
Dec 02 12:11:52 <av500> :)
Dec 02 12:12:14 <bremenpl> is there any official stable release of console version of debian?
Dec 02 12:13:20 <av500> no
Dec 02 12:13:33 <KotH> bremenpl: apt-get remove xorg
Dec 02 12:13:36 <KotH> bremenpl: and it's gone
Dec 02 12:13:48 <av500> but for testing TFP410, you dont care about taht
Dec 02 12:14:28 <av500> I would like to know why there are no kernel boot logs on the console
Dec 02 12:14:42 <bremenpl> KotH: but that image is also cropped from other stuff that i dont need
Dec 02 12:14:47 <bremenpl> making the system faster
Dec 02 12:14:48 <bremenpl> ok
Dec 02 12:14:48 <av500> again
Dec 02 12:14:54 <bremenpl> i will install the old one
Dec 02 12:14:57 <av500> that does not help your with tfp410
Dec 02 12:14:59 <av500> dont install it
Dec 02 12:15:03 <bremenpl> ohh
Dec 02 12:15:06 <KotH> av500: debian boots with "quiet" as default
Dec 02 12:15:08 <av500> just write to SD and run from there
Dec 02 12:15:21 <KotH> av500: probably someone thought that's a good idea for emedded as well
Dec 02 12:15:26 <av500> yeah
Dec 02 12:15:34 <bremenpl> Robert Nelson?
Dec 02 12:15:37 <av500> yeah
Dec 02 12:15:43 <av500> I blame him and systemd
Dec 02 12:16:04 <av500> heck, one day I should unpack a BBB and power it up
Dec 02 12:16:20 <bremenpl> He was a helpfull fellow for me but one day he stopped answering my emails
Dec 02 12:16:31 <bremenpl> =p
Dec 02 12:16:38 <KotH> i would as well ;)
Dec 02 12:16:38 <bremenpl> ok give me 1 sec ill get the image
Dec 02 12:16:44 <bremenpl> :P
Dec 02 12:17:21 <av500> not everybody has my angelic patience
Dec 02 12:17:46 <bremenpl> Gerald Coley has :P But hes a hardware guy
Dec 02 12:18:01 <av500> you annoy the hell out of him too?
Dec 02 12:18:05 <bremenpl> yes
Dec 02 12:18:09 <bremenpl> i reach everyone
Dec 02 12:18:28 <bremenpl> He helped me a lot building this cape
Dec 02 12:18:36 <bremenpl> suggested the tfp410 chip
Dec 02 12:21:36 <bremenpl> u guys all know eachother?
Dec 02 12:22:01 <av500> from irc, yes
Dec 02 12:22:20 <KotH> i dunno why, but tfp410 sounds like some ti document number instead of a chip
Dec 02 12:22:37 <bremenpl> sound legit to me :P
Dec 02 12:22:43 <bremenpl> now you know me to :]
Dec 02 12:22:52 <KotH> nope
Dec 02 12:22:57 <KotH> you havent send us chocolate yet
Dec 02 12:23:39 <bremenpl> i would have to give my month sallary to pay for sending it to zurich
Dec 02 12:23:58 <KotH> you can invite me to .pl as well
Dec 02 12:24:07 <KotH> but be carefull, i'm picky about my chocolate
Dec 02 12:24:39 <bremenpl> :D
Dec 02 12:24:54 <bremenpl> yeah ur from switzerland lol
Dec 02 12:25:10 <bremenpl> only dutch ppl compete
Dec 02 12:27:37 <KotH> you mean belgian
Dec 02 12:27:42 <KotH> and no, belgian chocolate is bad
Dec 02 12:27:45 <KotH> it's worse than german
Dec 02 12:27:51 <KotH> much worse, actually
Dec 02 12:28:31 <bremenpl> german is ok
Dec 02 12:29:01 <av500> bremenpl: and please remove optargs=quiet from your uenv.txt
Dec 02 12:29:27 <bremenpl> is that some logging flag?
Dec 02 12:29:35 <av500> it removes kernel logs
Dec 02 12:29:39 <av500> bad
Dec 02 12:29:57 <bremenpl> u want me to send them over again with the flag removed?
Dec 02 12:30:28 <bremenpl> before i put new system on the sd
Dec 02 12:31:04 <av500> yes
Dec 02 12:31:31 <bremenpl> ok, 1 sec
Dec 02 12:32:24 <bremenpl> this line? cmdline=quiet init=/lib/systemd/systemd
Dec 02 12:32:40 <bremenpl> should the init flag stay?
Dec 02 12:32:59 <av500> yeah
Dec 02 12:33:03 <av500> we all love systemd
Dec 02 12:33:06 <bremenpl> ok
Dec 02 12:33:18 <bremenpl> whats so bad about it that people hate it :P?
Dec 02 12:34:03 <KotH> lennart and kai personaly force everyone to use it
Dec 02 12:34:15 <bremenpl> who are those
Dec 02 12:34:47 <KotH> well..that's like asking "who is av500?"
Dec 02 12:35:11 <gre2gor> I just found out the easiest way... That actually works flawlessly... With Google hangouts AIR I can stream and make my video public... What to do now with beaglebone?
Dec 02 12:35:26 <av500> sell it?
Dec 02 12:35:33 <KotH> gre2gor: send it to me. i dont have one
Dec 02 12:35:58 <av500> +1
Dec 02 12:36:55 <gre2gor> I thought about installing elementary to beaglebone
Dec 02 12:37:32 <bremenpl> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14154631/mechatronic/debug
Dec 02 12:38:14 <gre2gor> is it possible?
Dec 02 12:38:49 <bremenpl> for some reason now, when the quiet option is commented out, my system shuts down for ages
Dec 02 12:40:38 <bremenpl> also i cant login anymore through debug serial line, the prompt doesnt appear
Dec 02 12:44:11 <av500> pastebin a log
Dec 02 12:44:15 <av500> ah
Dec 02 12:44:31 <av500> no
Dec 02 12:44:34 <av500> this is not the boot log
Dec 02 12:44:39 <av500> the boot log start with uboot
Dec 02 12:44:45 <av500> and ends with the login prompts
Dec 02 12:45:27 <bremenpl> and this is kernel log?
Dec 02 12:45:40 <bremenpl> my boot log didnt end up with login prompt
Dec 02 12:45:44 <bremenpl> for some reason
Dec 02 12:46:21 <av500> you can still paste a log
Dec 02 12:46:22 <av500> no?
Dec 02 12:47:01 <bremenpl> i do
Dec 02 12:47:10 <bremenpl> one sec
Dec 02 12:48:55 <bremenpl> http://pastie.org/9755963
Dec 02 12:49:24 <bremenpl> no login prompt at the end, even if i press return
Dec 02 12:54:23 <hedo> Hallo to all, does someone of you uses industrial ehternet in combination with BBB?
Dec 02 12:55:59 * av500 uses consumer internet
Dec 02 12:57:09 <av500> bremenpl: I dont understand all the capemanager mumbo jumbo
Dec 02 12:57:15 <av500> but the tilcdc driver is not happy
Dec 02 12:57:59 <bremenpl> yes there was something about it in the boot log even with the quiet ON. But I dont know what is tilcdc
Dec 02 12:58:25 <av500> the lcd controller
Dec 02 12:58:31 <av500> that you are trying to get to work
Dec 02 12:58:33 <bremenpl> hmm
Dec 02 12:58:57 <bremenpl> what could be wrong if it worked after tda initialised the connection :|?
Dec 02 12:59:32 <av500> the hardware works
Dec 02 12:59:43 <av500> that much we know
Dec 02 13:00:18 <bremenpl> I see
Dec 02 13:00:46 <hedo> Is it possible to connet the beagle bone black to indstrial ethernet?
Dec 02 13:00:48 <bremenpl> I really aprichiate the time youve spent for helping me out. Where do you think I should place the next step?
Dec 02 13:00:52 <av500> now you need to get tilcdc with tfp410 to work
Dec 02 13:01:14 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=am335+industrial+ethernet
Dec 02 13:01:54 <bremenpl> what else can I do than changing the dt file?
Dec 02 13:02:47 <av500> http://www.justmanpage.com/man/kdoc34-devicetree_drm_tilcdc_tfp410
Dec 02 13:04:08 <bremenpl> this i have
Dec 02 13:04:09 <bremenpl>  - compatible: value should be "ti,tilcdc,tfp410".
Dec 02 13:04:09 <bremenpl>  - i2c: the phandle for the i2c device to use for DDC
Dec 02 13:04:09 <BennyB_> hedo: as far as I scroogled it's not possible, am335 can use it, but not the one on bbb
Dec 02 13:05:38 <bremenpl> powerdn-gpio: the powerdown GPIO, pulled low to power down the
Dec 02 13:05:38 <bremenpl>    TFP410 device (for DPMS_OFF)
Dec 02 13:05:43 <tbr> hedo: "Industrial Ethernet (IE) refers to the use of standard Ethernet protocols with rugged connectors and extended temperature switches in an industrial environment, for automation or process control."
Dec 02 13:05:46 <bremenpl> this pin i havie tied to 3v3
Dec 02 13:06:05 <av500> fine
Dec 02 13:09:01 <bremenpl> this is my dt file, there athe modifications made under hdmi section http://pastie.org/private/j91tplpqnhymvvig1pc0rw
Dec 02 13:09:20 <bremenpl> i wonder, maybe I should remove some configs from there, because a lot of it reffers to tda chip
Dec 02 13:12:42 <tbr> hedo: if you don't like the (correct) answer, then maybe you didn't ask the right question?
Dec 02 13:15:50 <KotH> tbr: nobody likes people who are right
Dec 02 13:17:28 <tbr> KotH: right
Dec 02 13:18:13 <KotH> tbr: you should learn to be wrong, once in a while
Dec 02 13:18:21 <tbr> KotH: wrong
Dec 02 13:18:28 <hedo> Ok, to be productive and don't discuss who ask what when how.. and so on: BBB does work with Ind. Ehthernet thanks to BennyB_  for the tip to look for the arm specification. THe ARM 338BZCZ100 does support Ind Ether
Dec 02 13:18:34 <KotH> tbr: you should have answered with "left"
Dec 02 13:18:49 <hedo> thx and bye
Dec 02 13:18:50 <av500> bremenpl: well, nxp_hdmi_bonelt_pins is surely wrong
Dec 02 13:19:37 <KotH> does what hedo said make sense to anyone?
Dec 02 13:19:52 <tbr> it's fun as IE is just standard ethernet, he was probably looking for the more advanced real time stuff on top of that
Dec 02 13:20:01 <av500> no idea, I have this channel on mute
Dec 02 13:20:03 <bremenpl> okay
Dec 02 13:20:19 * KotH mutes av500 
Dec 02 13:20:20 <bremenpl> so I believe i just have to get rid of those, because there are no replacement in tfp chip
Dec 02 13:20:22 <av500> bremenpl: you have the error logs from tilcdc
Dec 02 13:20:26 <av500> and you have the source code
Dec 02 13:20:41 <av500> that's debugging heaven :)
Dec 02 13:21:01 <tbr> KotH: I guess he was looking for the specific real time stuff that you can do with PRU directly banging the etherwebz
Dec 02 13:21:11 <KotH> tbr: heh
Dec 02 13:21:11 <bremenpl> im not sure :P
Dec 02 13:21:21 <KotH> tbr: sounds industrial
Dec 02 13:23:00 <BennyB_> hm, mine (BBB) has an 3358..CZ1000 and as far as I know industrial ethernet like etherCAT, EthernetIP and so on do not work wir bbb.
Dec 02 13:23:17 <tbr> KotH: probably something like ethercat or profinet
Dec 02 13:23:21 <av500> best is to ask TI
Dec 02 13:23:22 <BennyB_> *damit i menat mein has 3358
Dec 02 13:23:32 <av500> mein preciousss
Dec 02 13:23:44 <BennyB_> damnit...
Dec 02 13:23:47 <bremenpl> I have replaced the pinctrl-names = "default", "off";
Dec 02 13:23:47 <bremenpl> 				pinctrl-0 = <&nxp_hdmi_bonelt_pins>;
Dec 02 13:23:47 <bremenpl> 				pinctrl-1 = <&nxp_hdmi_bonelt_off_pins>;
Dec 02 13:23:50 <bremenpl> to
Dec 02 13:23:54 <tbr> BennyB_: I think on early ones it worked as they had a 3359 or sthg like that
Dec 02 13:23:56 <bremenpl> pinctrl-names = "default";
Dec 02 13:23:56 <bremenpl> 		pinctrl-0 = <&bone_dvi_cape_dvi_00A1_pins>;
Dec 02 13:24:02 <bremenpl> but with no luck, same error
Dec 02 13:24:10 * tbr vaguely remembers previous discussions
Dec 02 13:24:12 <av500> well, work backwards from the error
Dec 02 13:24:19 <av500> so where it is in the source code
Dec 02 13:24:29 <av500> look what if(bla) triggers it
Dec 02 13:24:34 <av500> etc..
Dec 02 13:24:44 <bremenpl> what do u mean by sourcecode
Dec 02 13:25:02 <av500> you know in hacker movies
Dec 02 13:25:03 <BennyB_> tbr: so do I. It would be a cool thin if you could run Windows CE with an Beckhoff SPS on it...
Dec 02 13:25:09 <av500> what is scrolling down the screen all the time
Dec 02 13:25:15 <bremenpl> i meant, what code are you reffering to :D
Dec 02 13:25:18 <av500> that stuff
Dec 02 13:26:25 <tbr> BennyB_: the other problem is the lack of the second ethernet phy, so you could only use it as the last element in some chain
Dec 02 13:27:01 <av500> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/tilcdc/tilcdc_tfp410.c?id=refs/tags/v3.18-rc7
Dec 02 13:27:21 <BennyB_> tbr: yepp, but I'm done with this issue, as it does not work.
Dec 02 13:27:21 <bremenpl> ohh, thank you
Dec 02 13:27:53 <tbr> BennyB_: IIRC there is that 2 port EVM proper from TI, for those who mean serious industrial bizniz
Dec 02 13:28:14 <bremenpl> the strings taht are in the error aint here :(
Dec 02 13:28:28 <BennyB_> tbr: IIRC ???
Dec 02 13:28:35 <av500> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/tilcdc?id=refs/tags/v3.18-rc7
Dec 02 13:28:40 <tbr> IfIRememberCorrectly
Dec 02 13:28:45 <av500> also google
Dec 02 13:29:08 <bremenpl> thanks
Dec 02 13:29:13 <BennyB_> tbr: ok, now me do understand. *g*
Dec 02 13:35:55 <bremenpl> I have found this example, but im not sure either i can just replace the hdmi part with it http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg89038.html
Dec 02 13:37:34 <av500> thats omap3
Dec 02 13:37:57 <bremenpl> ohh
Dec 02 13:38:15 <av500> and omap4
Dec 02 13:38:19 <av500> different LCD controller
Dec 02 13:38:24 <av500> omapdss vs tilcdc
Dec 02 13:43:48 <bremenpl> av500: I cant find anything else... :/
Dec 02 13:44:41 <av500> you already found the source code
Dec 02 13:45:02 <bremenpl> but there are no lines matching the error
Dec 02 13:45:16 <av500> sure there are
Dec 02 13:45:21 <av500> in one of the files
Dec 02 13:45:24 <av500> I forgot which one
Dec 02 13:45:34 <bremenpl> i went through all of them with ctrl + f
Dec 02 13:46:01 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=failed+to+initialize+mode+setting+tilcdc
Dec 02 13:46:12 <av500> 1st hit for me
Dec 02 13:46:37 <bremenpl> i dont know whats wrong with duckduck.go
Dec 02 13:46:57 <av500> its just a duck
Dec 02 13:48:01 <KotH> and not even a good looking one
Dec 02 13:48:12 <KotH> greetings NishanthMenon
Dec 02 13:48:25 <NishanthMenon> KotH, Hi
Dec 02 13:55:06 <bremenpl> if ((priv->num_encoders = 0) || (priv->num_connectors == 0)) {
Dec 02 13:55:06 <bremenpl>  79                 /* oh nos! */
Dec 02 13:55:06 <bremenpl>  80                 dev_err(dev->dev, "no encoders/connectors found\n");
Dec 02 13:55:06 <bremenpl>  81                 return -ENXIO;
Dec 02 13:55:14 <bremenpl> this seems like an code bug
Dec 02 13:55:22 <bremenpl> theres only 1 = instead of ==
Dec 02 13:55:33 <bremenpl> so its assigning it with 0
Dec 02 13:55:40 <bremenpl> instead of checking for 0
Dec 02 13:58:54 <bremenpl> av500: its in this file http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/gpu/drm/tilcdc/tilcdc_drv.c?v=3.9
Dec 02 13:59:03 <av500> yes
Dec 02 14:00:01 <bremenpl> what do u think?
Dec 02 14:00:04 <av500> but that is 3.9
Dec 02 14:00:18 <av500> it has been fixed
Dec 02 14:00:20 <av500> later
Dec 02 14:00:24 <bremenpl> ohh
Dec 02 14:00:27 <bremenpl> ok
Dec 02 14:01:57 <bremenpl> damn i dont know then :|
Dec 02 14:04:23 <bremenpl> i find num_encoders = 0 only in some old files
Dec 02 14:04:39 <bremenpl> or in files with intel in their name
Dec 02 14:06:00 <bremenpl> and in init files
Dec 02 14:14:00 <bremenpl> av500: can please tell me either you know the correct answer and just plain with me :P?
Dec 02 14:14:15 <bremenpl> coz atm im dying
Dec 02 14:17:27 <av500> bremenpl: I dont know the answer
Dec 02 14:18:03 <bremenpl> av500: damn :(
Dec 02 14:22:15 <av500> bremenpl: as said, you have the source and the error logs
Dec 02 14:22:27 <av500> so you can start putting printk() at the right places
Dec 02 14:22:33 <bremenpl> I know, i just cant find the source of the error
Dec 02 14:23:02 <bremenpl> u mean like, in the kernel code? Then recompile again?
Dec 02 14:23:09 <av500> ja
Dec 02 14:24:02 <bremenpl> god :|
Dec 02 14:24:37 <av500> gut
Dec 02 14:27:29 <samael> i plan to play with an rtc but i'm a bit confused about the hw/sw stack involved. i see the rtc is managed by the omap rtc driver in the kernel, and is exposed to the userspace via i2c, right? how can i get a list of supported rtc chips? should i consider the CONFIG_RTC_DRV_* kernel directives, or the omap driver supports them directly? and what pins should i connect my rtc to? i guess I2C2_SCL and I2C2_SDA, since it seems the first i2c bus is used i
Dec 02 14:29:25 <av500> what
Dec 02 14:29:30 <av500> that all makes no sense
Dec 02 14:29:47 <av500> first of all, there is no omap
Dec 02 14:29:50 <av500> assuming the BBB
Dec 02 14:30:09 <samael> yep, i suspect i messed up a lot of things, i'm quite confused
Dec 02 14:31:02 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=adding+a+rtc+to+bbb
Dec 02 14:32:43 <samael> av500: thank you
Dec 02 14:34:22 <bremenpl> av500: Thank you for helping me today. Thank you Koth as well. I cant think anymore today. I will try to resolve it tommorow too. I really aprichiate the help
Dec 02 14:34:44 <KotH> bremenpl: make sure to send av500 some chocolate
Dec 02 14:34:58 <KotH> bremenpl: he is not as picky as me, so soviet chocolate is good enough
Dec 02 14:35:11 <bremenpl> lol
Dec 02 14:35:13 <bremenpl> ok :P
Dec 02 14:37:04 <bremenpl> bye bye guys
Dec 02 19:58:58 <Shadyman> Ooo, TI PRU Cape
Dec 02 20:17:34 <_av500_> yes, it adss PRUs to the BBB
Dec 02 20:18:00 <_av500_> Im waiting for the the ARM CPU cape
Dec 02 20:19:39 <hitlin37> what's that?
Dec 02 20:20:55 <_av500_> well, the PRU cape adds a PRU
Dec 02 20:21:02 <_av500_> so the CPU cape adds a CPU, no?
Dec 02 20:24:21 <woglinde_> *g*
Dec 02 20:25:17 <hitlin37> hmm
Dec 02 23:45:21 <Carl_> mic test
Dec 02 23:45:59 * vagrantc listens to squeals of feedback
Dec 02 23:46:28 <Carl_> hello great people of electronic world! is anyone there that can help me troubleshoot my beaglebone problems?
Dec 02 23:47:00 <ds2> what is it doing?
Dec 02 23:47:03 <vagrantc> Carl_: ettiquette is generally to start describing the situation and the issues you're having and wait patiently until someone can respond
Dec 02 23:47:09 <ds2> smoldering amount the ashes? :D
Dec 02 23:48:45 <Carl_> Thanks for the response guys. Well here is my situation. My workspace on cloud9 is not being detected. The workspace loading icon just keeps on running.
Dec 02 23:49:23 <woglinde> o.O
Dec 02 23:49:28 <woglinde> workspace in the cloud?
Dec 02 23:49:32 <woglinde> oy my
Dec 02 23:51:15 <Carl_> Yes woglinde my workspace on cloud cant be opened on firefox but it miraculusly works on chrome!
Dec 02 23:51:28 <Carl_> <- case closed :) sorry for the bother
Dec 02 23:51:57 <vagrantc> that sounds like a bug...
Dec 02 23:55:19 <woglinde> that sounds like stupid
Dec 02 23:55:32 <woglinde> I would nether put a workspace in the cloud
Dec 02 23:58:14 <vagrantc> cloud9 is an IDE shipped on the beaglebone black, no?
Dec 02 23:58:27 <woglinde> yes could be
Dec 02 23:58:51 <woglinde> I personal have no use cases for the cloud
Dec 02 23:59:17 <vagrantc> i think you're confusing "The Cloud" with "cloud9", although i'm not all that familiar with cloud9
Dec 02 23:59:52 <woglinde> hm maybe
Dec 03 00:00:53 <vagrantc> ok, so it's an IDE that uses "The Cloud". heh.
Dec 03 00:39:52 <jkridner> vagrantc: if your board counts as a "cloud"
Dec 03 00:40:33 <jkridner> Cloud9 IDE is just a browser based editor and the Bone is the server. It has a really nice browser-based terminal shell, which is what I use it for most of the time.
Dec 03 00:41:05 <jkridner> it is really underrated, IMO
Dec 03 00:59:50 <vagrantc> jkridner: that's what i thought, reading the wikipedia article made it sound more cloud-specific.
Dec 03 01:00:31 <jkridner> that's how it is marketed.... people get confused that it is just running on their boards and instead think it is on some other mystery server. :(
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