**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 22 02:59:59 2015
Jan 22 03:01:21 <pjz> I flashed my bbb using the debian 7.7 eMMC but it's not setting up a network on the debug usb. Any ideas?
Jan 22 03:13:51 <Shut> hello?
Jan 22 03:14:11 <Shut> Is anyone there?
Jan 22 03:59:16 <yates> pjz: i'm having the same problem
Jan 22 04:00:06 <yates> pjz: which version are you using? bone-debian-7.7-console-armhf-2014-12-31-2gb.img here
Jan 22 04:00:55 <yates> pjz: g_multi is the kernel module that provides the rndis interface and it isn't loaded per lsmod
Jan 22 04:02:02 <yates>  /nick anyone
Jan 22 04:02:13 <yates> yes, i'm here...
Jan 22 04:02:25 <yates> damn. i hate it when i do that..
Jan 22 04:02:41 <yates> agmlego|skynet: dude. what up?
Jan 22 06:56:00 <vikky> voip using beaglebone
Jan 22 06:59:58 <tbr> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Jan 22 08:27:45 <leo_> Is there a way to prevent the BBB to startup as soon as it is powered by USB?
Jan 22 08:28:37 <LetoThe2nd> leo_: certainly not without HW modification
Jan 22 08:29:41 <leo_> Ok, I was hoping there was a way to do it in Linux config. Thanks
Jan 22 08:31:02 <endrift> ???
Jan 22 08:31:17 <endrift> "I was hoping to prevent the OS from starting by changing the OS config"
Jan 22 08:31:26 <endrift> ummm, and what reads that config, exactly?
Jan 22 08:34:23 <Vaizki> I don't see why you can't just make a uEnv.txt which doesn't autoboot if on USB power?
Jan 22 08:34:48 <Vaizki> you can read power status from the power management ic with i2c
Jan 22 08:35:42 <Vaizki> hmm ok he left :)
Jan 22 08:38:52 <LetoThe2nd> Vaizki: depends on your definition of "startup". if you call u-boot/mlo as part of startup, then there's no way stopping it.
Jan 22 08:41:00 <Vaizki> sure, I think he just wanted to stop linux from booting
Jan 22 10:11:07 <mbx> hi, i'm currently doing performance measurements on the DSP of a beagleboard xm. as it looks the frequency unit of TSCL/TSCH is 166MHz. am i right that this is not the clock frequency of the DSP? cause it is supposed to run at up to 800MHz.
Jan 22 10:17:56 * tbr ponders if that could be an IVA vs. the real C64x thing
Jan 22 10:21:10 <av500> mbx: where do you see these values?
Jan 22 10:21:14 <mbx> well i'm using the CCS init script "IVA22_GEM_StartUp" to activate it
Jan 22 10:21:20 * av500 forgot all about omap3 dsp
Jan 22 10:21:43 <mbx> there is this test app to estimate clock rate: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/What_is_my_DSP_clock_speed
Jan 22 10:22:22 <mbx> it shows about 166MHz when running on the (supposedly) C64x
Jan 22 10:22:34 <av500> why supposedly?
Jan 22 10:23:00 <av500> where else would it run?
Jan 22 10:23:11 <mbx> well there's no other DSP on the board i guess
Jan 22 10:23:33 <mbx> was just wondering about what tbr said, but the IVA is only on pandaboards i think
Jan 22 10:24:14 <tbr> mbx: no, there is also some accelerator stuff on OMAP3
Jan 22 10:24:23 <mbx> just weird that it runs only at 166MHz, which appears to be the DRAM frequency
Jan 22 10:24:26 <av500> TI names many things IVA
Jan 22 10:24:32 <mbx> ok
Jan 22 10:24:36 <av500> in case of the omap3 its the DSP+HW accells
Jan 22 10:24:50 <tbr> av500: the DM3730 DS actually says in the IVA section that it could run at 800MHz
Jan 22 10:24:57 <av500> yes
Jan 22 10:25:00 <av500> the DSP can run at 800
Jan 22 10:25:21 <av500> mbx: you are just using CCS, not running linux?
Jan 22 10:25:41 <mbx> yes, only CCS
Jan 22 10:26:57 <mbx> there are some "PCRM_CLOCK_CONFIG" scripts, but i hadn't much success with these yet.
Jan 22 10:27:30 <mbx> you have any idea what would be the correct way to adjust the DSP clockrate?
Jan 22 10:35:14 <av500> mbx: no idea
Jan 22 10:35:23 <av500> I always used the DSP with linux on the omap3
Jan 22 10:35:30 <av500> so it was linux doing the clock management
Jan 22 10:35:50 <mbx> ok
Jan 22 11:30:59 <Tom_bbb> Bought a new BBB. how I can get the Vendor and product ID
Jan 22 11:34:19 <av500> of what?
Jan 22 11:36:42 <Tom_bbb> BBB, installed with JB OS
Jan 22 11:37:12 <Tom_bbb> lsusb given the connected devices VID/PID
Jan 22 11:37:32 <vvu> check the TRM, they have there the VID/PID
Jan 22 11:37:56 <Tom_bbb> ok
Jan 22 11:39:14 <vvu> Tom_bbb: https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs/blob/master/includes/utils.h#L33  ROMVID/ROMPID are the vid/pid of the chip
Jan 22 12:17:20 <rishiraj_> Hi! I am new to this community. I want to contribute. Please guide me. Thanks.
Jan 22 12:19:40 <LetoThe2nd> rishiraj_: well what do you have to contribute? what knowledge or expertise can you offer?
Jan 22 13:18:47 <gienee> hello ! i want to program the PRUs of the BBB but i can use only C/C++ what shoudl i do ?
Jan 22 13:18:55 <gienee> *should
Jan 22 13:21:20 <LetoThe2nd> gienee: read http://www.embeddedrelated.com/showarticle/603.php
Jan 22 14:34:37 <pjz> has anyone successfully used the BBB 7.7 eMMC flasher image on the wiki?
Jan 22 14:48:15 <Tenkawa> greetings all
Jan 22 14:48:53 <Tenkawa> anyone got a good .config for a recent kernel version I can build for a bb black running headless?
Jan 22 14:49:18 <Tenkawa> would like to  try something a bit newer than the 3.8 tree
Jan 22 14:50:34 <Tenkawa> I'l reading the bone101 too
Jan 22 14:55:00 <georgem> Tenkawa: Checkout https://github.com/beagleboard/linux or if you don't mind going without cape support try mainline with omap2plus_defconfig
Jan 22 14:55:54 <Tenkawa> sure
Jan 22 14:56:01 <Tenkawa> yeah I dont need cape support
Jan 22 14:56:04 <Tenkawa> excellent
Jan 22 14:56:07 <Tenkawa> thanks
Jan 22 14:57:58 <Tenkawa> hhmmm
Jan 22 14:58:09 <Tenkawa> isnt the internal emmc a cape?
Jan 22 14:58:48 <Tenkawa> at least it shows up that way in dmesg currently
Jan 22 14:59:05 <georgem> Tenkawa: not really in newer kernels. it's defined as mmc2 here: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-boneblack.dts
Jan 22 14:59:49 <Tenkawa> ahh cool
Jan 22 14:59:51 <Tenkawa> wheew
Jan 22 15:00:17 <Tenkawa> thanks all
Jan 22 15:00:23 <Tenkawa> time to do some compiling
Jan 22 15:09:35 <pjz> has anyone successfully used the BBB 7.7 eMMC flasher image that's pointed to on the wiki?
Jan 22 15:11:03 <Tenkawa> I'veused the apr23 one whichever one that is
Jan 22 15:15:28 <Tenkawa> bbl its compiling away...
Jan 22 15:15:35 <Tenkawa> thanks all
Jan 22 15:18:32 <emorris> Hi, has anyone seen issues with the Black apparently just hanging when a shutdown -r now is issued? I Get the usually going down for reboot now wall, but then does nothing apart from respond to sysrq keys
Jan 22 16:06:29 <emorris> I turned off systemd quiet mode, and it appears to hang while/after shutting down apache
Jan 22 16:08:20 <aman679kashyap> hello people
Jan 22 17:31:16 * Tenkawa still waits for his kernel to finish compiling heheheh
Jan 22 17:31:30 <Tenkawa> I shouldve crosscompiled on my server.. oh well
Jan 22 18:30:56 <testdeb> hi are there debian preempt rt kernels available for beagle bone black? is there a repository maintained for this patch? thank you
Jan 22 18:31:50 <veremit> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
Jan 22 18:34:37 <testdeb> veremit, thank you, but i think the link doesn't discuss about preempt kernels, or maybe i'm missing something there...
Jan 22 18:34:50 <veremit> not sure wht you mean by pre-empt
Jan 22 18:35:08 <veremit> but that's got the 3.19 kernels on .. probably newer than debian unstable
Jan 22 18:35:27 <veremit> I -think- .. lol
Jan 22 18:35:42 <veremit> 3.18 . close
Jan 22 18:36:03 <testdeb> veremit, thank you... will check it
Jan 22 18:36:22 <veremit> and if you struggle, rcn-ee might be able to give you a hand :)
Jan 22 18:36:57 <testdeb> thank you
Jan 22 18:36:59 <rcn-ee> testdeb, "preempt" is enabled in the v3.14.x-ti kernel..
Jan 22 18:37:09 <rcn-ee> testdeb, also we have xenomai for 3.8 & 3.14...
Jan 22 18:37:25 <veremit> ^5 rcn :)
Jan 22 18:37:40 <georgem> I think he's asking about preempt rt, not preempt
Jan 22 18:37:59 <veremit> yea I was wondering about an rt req
Jan 22 18:38:17 <rcn-ee> well we finally have preempt enabled by defualt.. that's a big change. ;)
Jan 22 18:38:30 <veremit> but I've only ever done rt with ubuntu kernels for linuxcnc so far
Jan 22 18:38:53 <rcn-ee> well the machinekit guys are using 3.8-xenomai instead of rt...
Jan 22 18:41:24 <testdeb> yah i meant preempt rt kernel, is there some repository maintained for this patch?, i anyway would like to test both...
Jan 22 18:41:52 <Tenkawa> whats the LOADADDR for a bbb kernel build?
Jan 22 18:42:31 <veremit> for uboot?
Jan 22 18:42:47 <Defiant> uImage?
Jan 22 18:42:50 <Tenkawa> make uImage on 3.18 is complaining
Jan 22 18:42:55 <Tenkawa> because I'm not passing one
Jan 22 18:43:10 <rcn-ee> Tenkawa, just call "make zImage" and stop using uImage..
Jan 22 18:43:10 <Defiant> do you really need uImage?
Jan 22 18:43:15 <Tenkawa> oh ok
Jan 22 18:43:35 <Tenkawa> thought uimage  was still "required"
Jan 22 18:44:36 <rcn-ee> depends on 'your' boot script/uEnv.txt... if you can't change "bootm -> bootz" then you'll need the uImage
Jan 22 18:44:54 <Tenkawa> looking at the script now
Jan 22 18:45:04 <Tenkawa> I'm pulling the latest ones with update_*
Jan 22 18:45:09 <veremit> ah its as simple as that?! lol
Jan 22 18:45:32 <veremit> I suspect the default might be uimage .. and from some silly location
Jan 22 18:46:02 <rcn-ee> it's still the legacy default in u-boot for a lot of targets, everything new is bootz/zImage...
Jan 22 18:46:12 <Tenkawa> ok perfect.. I can use zImage and modules
Jan 22 18:46:17 <veremit> *nods* good to know
Jan 22 18:46:21 <Tenkawa> according to what I see in my uenv.txt
Jan 22 18:46:22 <Tenkawa> yay
Jan 22 18:46:28 <Tenkawa> I'll find out shortly
Jan 22 18:47:46 <veremit> testdeb - have you checked out http://beagleboard.org/project/omap-rt-patch/ ?
Jan 22 18:48:26 <rcn-ee> veremit, that's dead..
Jan 22 18:48:40 <veremit> surprise :/
Jan 22 18:48:52 <veremit> someone should nuke that server .. lol
Jan 22 18:48:54 <rcn-ee> mainline 'rt' patch should just apply.. except for v3.8.x
Jan 22 18:49:44 <veremit> ok I'll leave it to the experts lol :)
Jan 22 18:50:16 <veremit> bbl
Jan 22 18:59:54 <Tenkawa> yay
Jan 22 18:59:58 <Tenkawa> i t worked
Jan 22 19:00:10 <Tenkawa> on 3.18.3 now
Jan 22 19:00:52 <testdeb> rcn-ee, thank you, will check it
Jan 22 19:01:04 <ds2> why do you want the preempt-rt kernels?
Jan 22 19:01:12 <rcn-ee> Tenkawa, isn't more relaxing to not have to worry about mkimage. ;)
Jan 22 19:01:38 <ds2> Long live uImage!!!
Jan 22 19:01:42 <Tenkawa> rcn-ee: oh indeed
Jan 22 19:01:45 <rcn-ee> never!! ;)
Jan 22 19:02:07 <Tenkawa> I really did not like having to go away from just using zimage
Jan 22 19:02:32 <rcn-ee> uImage was the dark ages..
Jan 22 19:02:35 <Tenkawa> now I just need to finish up all of the tweaks I want to do
Jan 22 19:03:14 * Tenkawa remembers kernel compiling in 1993
Jan 22 19:03:16 <Tenkawa> heheh
Jan 22 19:03:31 <ds2> rcn-ee: aren't you spending time dealing with zImage vs zImage-dtb vs a renamed zImage-dtb as a zImage?
Jan 22 19:03:34 <Defiant> there were compilers in 1993? ;)
Jan 22 19:03:42 <Tenkawa> haaahaaa
Jan 22 19:04:13 <Tenkawa> Defiant: hey.. we were still using microchannel on our unix boxes
Jan 22 19:04:14 <agmlego|skynet> Defiant: No, just magnetic needles.
Jan 22 19:04:20 <Tenkawa> agmlego|skynet: rofl
Jan 22 19:04:24 <Tenkawa> that was good
Jan 22 19:04:31 <rcn-ee> ds2, nope.. *.dtb is target dependent.. so u-boot 'should' take care of it.. unless it's the wandboard.. in which case it needs some serios u-boot patching..
Jan 22 19:04:31 <agmlego|skynet> ::bows::
Jan 22 19:05:09 <ds2> rcn-ee: you don't do any QCOM boards, do you?
Jan 22 19:05:54 <rcn-ee> i have two.. there bootloader's pissed me off... so it's in the random pile of maybe i'll get to it again..
Jan 22 19:06:31 * Tenkawa tries to see which led wont stop blinking
Jan 22 19:06:33 <Tenkawa> hehehe
Jan 22 19:06:56 <ds2> oh heehehehe
Jan 22 19:07:29 <ds2> I have waste too much time figuring out if a kernel wants me to build a plain zImage (and automatically deal with dtb), a zImage-dtb, or some other variants
Jan 22 19:07:52 <ds2> getting to really hate how varied zImage adoption is across arm boards :(
Jan 22 19:08:37 <Tenkawa> there we go
Jan 22 19:08:39 <Tenkawa> thats better
Jan 22 19:08:56 <rcn-ee> it would be nice to have one standard.. zImage is nice, as it doesn't have a hardcoded address, so it can be used on many boards...  but then we did the whole dt thing...
Jan 22 19:09:25 <rcn-ee> Then google did the whole uImage.FIT......
Jan 22 19:13:12 * Tenkawa liked the old zImage/lilo days
Jan 22 19:13:20 <Tenkawa> even grub
Jan 22 19:13:30 <Tenkawa> but dts and I do not get along
Jan 22 19:13:37 <Tenkawa> dts/uImage/etc
Jan 22 19:14:03 <Defiant> The only thing I remember from lilo is "LI" because my Linux partition after 8GB
Jan 22 19:14:10 <georgem> Defiant: same here
Jan 22 19:14:17 <ds2> I personally perfer a rommable image
Jan 22 19:14:18 <Tenkawa> haaa yeah I remember those days well
Jan 22 19:14:20 <Tenkawa> or
Jan 22 19:14:23 <Tenkawa> L00000000000000000000000000000
Jan 22 19:14:59 <ds2> Defiant: I always created a boot partition in the first 512M so the whole SD card thing is second nature
Jan 22 19:14:59 <Defiant> took me a long time to get the problem...had no internet back then
Jan 22 19:15:35 <Tenkawa> I had internet... all 28.8kb of it
Jan 22 19:15:37 <Tenkawa> haahaa
Jan 22 19:16:15 <Tenkawa> and sometimes just local bbs access only
Jan 22 19:19:28 <Tenkawa> now to majorly trim down this kernel
Jan 22 19:19:38 <Tenkawa> taking up way too much space
Jan 22 19:31:54 <Tenkawa> bbl.. cheers all... time for more kernel compiling.
Jan 22 19:32:08 <Tenkawa> thanks for the help
Jan 22 19:41:48 <pjz> wow, it's really unfriendly trying to figure out how to use the microsd slot as extra storage
Jan 22 21:37:48 <Tenkawa> yay
Jan 22 21:37:51 <Tenkawa> much better
Jan 22 21:38:25 <Tenkawa> now all I have to do is clone my bbb a few times and get them all updated
Jan 22 21:38:26 <Tenkawa> hehehh
Jan 22 21:40:28 <Tenkawa> trying to get the image small enough to fit on a smaller size bbb emmc is going to be the tough part
Jan 22 21:43:16 <vvu> how small?
Jan 22 21:44:05 <Tenkawa> well right now even with my kernel src cleaned up it takes...1793 mb
Jan 22 21:44:28 <vvu> you can get around 300mb if you custom build the rootfs
Jan 22 21:44:37 <Tenkawa> vvu: yeah I am
Jan 22 21:44:42 <vvu> and that with a lot of software on it
Jan 22 21:44:48 <Tenkawa> just goint to take a lot of trimming
Jan 22 21:44:57 <Tenkawa> done some tune2fs adjustments too
Jan 22 21:44:59 <vvu> doing that with the image-builder from rcn-ee ?
Jan 22 21:45:05 <Tenkawa> no.. manually
Jan 22 21:45:24 <Tenkawa> I have another arm board I use to build images on
Jan 22 21:45:35 <vvu> check https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder , for me it made wonders
Jan 22 21:45:43 <Tenkawa> ok. thanks
Jan 22 21:57:25 <Tenkawa> wow this runs much nicer in 3.18
Jan 22 22:11:21 <umbrella> Why can beagle sniff the IO data from the usb device?
Jan 22 22:12:15 <Tenkawa> elaborate...
Jan 22 22:12:42 <Tenkawa> is the devicenode readable by that user id>
Jan 22 22:12:43 <Tenkawa> ?
Jan 22 22:13:02 <ds2> which beagle?
Jan 22 22:20:34 <Tenkawa> time to run.. cheers all
Jan 22 22:49:58 <plaw> ooh https://github.com/revskills/am335x_boneblack_grsec
Jan 23 00:47:26 <pugglebone> has anyone used Parallax altimeter MS5607 with BBB? I cannot detect it with i2cdetect. I expected it to be at 0x76
Jan 23 01:25:29 <Tenkawa> anyone used the bbb emmc to microsd script?
Jan 23 01:32:17 <Tenkawa> nm. just updated  my dload
Jan 23 01:35:53 <Tenkawa> nope.. still trying to pull in /sys and /proc in with the new copy
Jan 23 01:35:56 <Tenkawa> odd
Jan 23 01:38:54 <Tenkawa> anyone got any ideas/theories
Jan 23 01:41:24 <Tenkawa> I'll just modify the script for now
Jan 23 01:42:33 <veremit> just exclude sys and proc, and everything dev except /dev/console .. you shouldbe good to go
Jan 23 01:43:08 <Tenkawa> yeah I'm thinking of doing just that
Jan 23 01:43:09 <Tenkawa> heheh
Jan 23 01:43:24 <veremit> tar or rsync ftw
Jan 23 01:43:34 <Tenkawa> its setup to use rsync
Jan 23 01:43:40 <Tenkawa> its already scripted
Jan 23 01:43:59 <Tenkawa> thats why I'm startled its being so peculiar
Jan 23 01:44:56 <ds2> eh? just tell it to stay on the same filesystem
Jan 23 01:45:12 <ds2> no need to know or figure out names
Jan 23 01:45:58 <Tenkawa> ds2: good point
Jan 23 01:46:01 <Tenkawa> heheheh
Jan 23 01:46:06 <Tenkawa> I'm getting sleepy
Jan 23 01:46:08 <Tenkawa> heeh
Jan 23 01:46:48 <Tenkawa> thanks
Jan 23 01:48:19 <veremit> -x iirc ?
Jan 23 01:48:22 <Tenkawa> yep
Jan 23 01:48:37 <Tenkawa> its running again now.. we'll see if that helps
Jan 23 01:49:09 <Tenkawa> oh I see noq
Jan 23 01:49:11 <Tenkawa> er now
Jan 23 01:49:20 <Tenkawa> its explicitly grabbing all /*
Jan 23 01:49:21 <Tenkawa> not /
Jan 23 01:49:33 <Tenkawa> so each iteration is treated seperately
Jan 23 01:49:38 <veremit> subtleties !
Jan 23 01:50:22 <Tenkawa> there we go
Jan 23 01:51:05 <Tenkawa> lets see if / to /blah works a bit better
Jan 23 01:52:25 <Tenkawa> thats looking much better
Jan 23 01:52:29 <Tenkawa> now I wait
Jan 23 01:55:31 <Tenkawa> I like these new bbb's though
Jan 23 01:55:43 <veremit> new?
Jan 23 01:55:45 <Tenkawa> that double size emmc is much  nicer
Jan 23 01:55:56 <veremit> eh depends how bloaty ya os is :D
Jan 23 01:56:03 <ds2> wish they ditched the ethernet all together
Jan 23 01:56:09 <veremit> ditch the usb
Jan 23 01:56:13 <veremit> ethernet much more useful
Jan 23 01:56:18 <veremit> and it works
Jan 23 01:56:18 <Tenkawa> ds2: I use eth primarily on mine
Jan 23 01:56:26 <veremit> usb is borked
Jan 23 01:56:28 <ds2> eth wastes so much space
Jan 23 01:56:45 <ds2> just bring out the MII/RMII/RGMII signals and be done with
Jan 23 01:56:46 <Tenkawa> ds2: I thought about going wifi but the dongles are just so power hungry
Jan 23 01:57:02 <ds2> then use bluetooth
Jan 23 01:57:16 <ds2> ethernet is not exactly low power
Jan 23 01:57:22 <Tenkawa> bt? thats still a bolt on isnt it?
Jan 23 01:57:36 <veremit> up
Jan 23 01:57:38 <veremit> y*
Jan 23 01:57:47 <ds2> yes
Jan 23 01:57:55 <Tenkawa> I am trying to keep these simple
Jan 23 01:58:06 <Tenkawa> I have too many elaborate boxes as it is
Jan 23 01:58:16 <ds2> hmm? you can get a nice neat dongle for that
Jan 23 01:58:31 <ds2> USB works well enough unless you want to get exotic
Jan 23 01:58:36 <Tenkawa> with my 100BT I just plug and go
Jan 23 01:59:17 <ds2> do you bolt down your board?
Jan 23 01:59:19 <Tenkawa> I'm just happy to be on a much newer kernel
Jan 23 01:59:25 <Tenkawa> ds2: yes
Jan 23 01:59:37 <ds2> other then space, the RJ45 is so big it drags the board around when you have a cable on it
Jan 23 01:59:56 <Tenkawa> only enough to keep cats from moving it
Jan 23 01:59:57 <Tenkawa> heheheh
Jan 23 02:00:07 <Tenkawa> I'm just old school I guess
Jan 23 02:00:17 <Tenkawa> I really prefer ethernet
Jan 23 02:01:02 <ds2> *shrug*
Jan 23 02:01:02 <Tenkawa> I've thought about getting usb to eth dongles for some of my tablet computing
Jan 23 02:01:08 <Tenkawa> where I can anyway
Jan 23 02:01:26 <ds2> there are plenty of those floating around
Jan 23 02:01:31 <ds2> used to have one for the BBC
Jan 23 02:01:31 <Tenkawa> cool
Jan 23 02:01:49 <Tenkawa> over 50% copying that mmc to sd
Jan 23 02:02:13 <Tenkawa> will be interesting trying to bring it up on another  unit
Jan 23 02:03:09 <veremit> ds2: https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/iMX233/iMX233-OLinuXino-MICRO/open-source-hardware
Jan 23 02:03:30 <ds2> veremit: the iMX is a non starter. Need the PRU for custom stuff
Jan 23 02:03:52 <veremit> ah well .. its the whole board or custom pcb then :)
Jan 23 02:03:54 <Tenkawa> i.mx boards and I have had our "disagreements"
Jan 23 02:04:06 <veremit> I love the imx6's
Jan 23 02:04:31 <Tenkawa> the 2 I had both physicly broke
Jan 23 02:04:41 <Tenkawa> the boards were too fragile
Jan 23 02:04:43 <veremit> lol nice
Jan 23 02:05:01 <ds2> veremit: how complex is the PMIC for the IMX6?
Jan 23 02:05:29 <veremit> not sure ds2 .. can't remember what's used on the wands I got
Jan 23 02:06:04 <ds2> the older IMX's needed the atlas but they are supposely integrating that into the chip
Jan 23 02:06:37 <veremit> lemmie see if I can pull up the schems quick
Jan 23 02:06:41 <veremit> .. or slow ..
Jan 23 02:09:26 <veremit> hm .. can't see a pmic per-se on the main cpu board
Jan 23 02:09:57 <veremit> just four converters
Jan 23 02:10:20 <veremit> seems odd
Jan 23 02:12:10 <veremit> -shrug-
Jan 23 02:12:11 <ds2> that might be fine
Jan 23 02:12:31 <ds2> one of their guys was saying the Atlas (their PMIC) was getting more and more integrated
Jan 23 02:14:56 <ds2> it would still be painful to not have the PRUSS
Jan 23 02:15:10 <veremit> well they are specialised cores
Jan 23 02:15:19 <ds2> *nod*
Jan 23 02:15:29 <ds2> it is just their specialities don't match my needs :D
Jan 23 02:15:31 <veremit> although on a quad-core arm .. :)
Jan 23 02:15:37 * Tenkawa feels like he is so underutilizing his
Jan 23 02:16:01 <Tenkawa> wish I had something to really use the gpio for
Jan 23 02:16:21 <ds2> if I were to consider the IMX6, it would be the solo
Jan 23 02:16:22 <veremit> mine's just bein a dyndns client and bind named caching server lol
Jan 23 02:16:33 <Tenkawa> ok cool
Jan 23 02:16:48 <Tenkawa> mine are distcc boxes and various experimentals
Jan 23 02:16:54 <veremit> I like the duals because of the onboard wifi/bt :)
Jan 23 02:17:10 <ds2> onboard or ondie?
Jan 23 02:17:15 <veremit> onboard
Jan 23 02:17:19 <ds2> oh bah
Jan 23 02:17:29 <veremit> well .. its a blob of something
Jan 23 02:17:31 <veremit> its not usb
Jan 23 02:18:02 <veremit> they just upgraded it too
Jan 23 02:20:11 <veremit> lol just noticed its on sdio
Jan 23 02:20:15 <veremit> interesting
Jan 23 02:22:28 <veremit> if I did more IO I'd use the beagle though
Jan 23 02:23:28 <veremit> I wonder if anyone's written a bit of code to do 1wire bus in the pru
Jan 23 02:24:51 <Tenkawa> darn thing sometimes requires 2 or 3 reboots
Jan 23 02:25:06 <ds2> 1wire doesn't need the PRU
Jan 23 02:27:42 <veremit> it doesn't need it no ..
Jan 23 02:27:53 <veremit> but I don't like the idea of toggling pins in userspace
Jan 23 02:28:08 <veremit> I haven't seen any libraries .. yet ..
Jan 23 02:28:44 <veremit> the only io-y task I got has an arduino attached
Jan 23 02:29:01 <ds2> huh?
Jan 23 02:29:05 <ds2> there is a kernel driver for it
Jan 23 02:29:23 <ds2> wipe the idea of doing io access in userspace out of your head!
Jan 23 02:29:45 <veremit> which reminds me .. I never put that io board i bought for the pi to use lol .. got a stm on it I think
Jan 23 02:29:51 <veremit> yesm exactky
Jan 23 02:30:13 <veremit> didn't know about the kernel drv
Jan 23 02:30:22 <ds2> they been using it since the early days of the BBW
Jan 23 02:30:29 <veremit> ah duh ok
Jan 23 02:30:34 <veremit> I seen i2c and such
Jan 23 02:30:38 <ds2> the wx cape
Jan 23 02:32:24 <Tenkawa> for a general purpose bbb box is there any reason not to run it on deadline scheduler?
Jan 23 02:35:08 <mbennett> Beagle bone web server won't start up. Need help.
Jan 23 02:35:50 <Tenkawa> mbennett: errors
Jan 23 02:35:51 <Tenkawa> ?
Jan 23 02:36:06 <mbennett> it just says webpage cannot be found
Jan 23 02:36:45 <veremit> client or server?
Jan 23 02:37:03 <olive_> hello everyone , my name is olive, i am learning about the BBB
Jan 23 02:37:28 <mbennett> Its the server that you try to open when going to a certain ip.
Jan 23 02:38:22 <olive_> I have a question about it, i have install it and what should i do  next time i want to use it
Jan 23 02:38:24 <Tenkawa> mbennett: how do you recreate the error?
Jan 23 02:38:44 <mbennett> Well just going to the local server
Jan 23 02:38:59 <mbennett> on the IP address that was given
Jan 23 02:39:46 <Tenkawa> ahh
Jan 23 02:40:00 <veremit> uhm ok.
Jan 23 02:41:11 <veremit> olive_ .. what do you want to do with it?
Jan 23 02:41:16 <mbennett> It should start up automatically at launch after the drivers are installed if im correct
Jan 23 02:42:43 <veremit> mbennett .. you mean you can't get the beagle intro page up on the 192.168.7.2 address or its thingybob alias?
Jan 23 02:43:05 <mbennett> yes that is what i am saying
Jan 23 02:43:19 <veremit> you've seen the board boot, all the leds are flashing .. and you can ping the board ok? have you tried ssh?
Jan 23 02:44:10 <mbennett> the thing that is weird is the board's LEDs are just on and aren't flashing
Jan 23 02:48:05 <veremit> well there should be a heartbeat led flashing every half-second roughtly
Jan 23 02:48:13 <veremit> if the board's died .. there's ya problem :)
Jan 23 02:48:28 <veremit> if you can ping/ssh in .. thats Not it :)
Jan 23 02:48:41 <Tenkawa> is it "all" the leds solid or one?
Jan 23 02:48:56 <veremit> is it an ele14 board or an original beagleboard.org ?
Jan 23 02:48:59 <mbennett> all of the leds are solid
Jan 23 02:49:13 <veremit> hmm thats not right :)
Jan 23 02:49:35 <Tenkawa> veremit: thats what mine does when I have to reboot it a few times occasionally
Jan 23 02:49:41 <Tenkawa> did it earlier
Jan 23 02:49:56 <Tenkawa> after third power cycle it booted up fine
Jan 23 02:50:15 <veremit> ook
Jan 23 02:50:16 <mbennett> so just keep restarted it?
Jan 23 02:52:56 <mbennett> actually the 0, 1 and 2 light are on but the 3 is not
Jan 23 02:54:01 <olive_> thank you for help, i mean next time when i  insert the usb to the computer and BBB, then i can run the ssh for practice  right...?
Jan 23 02:54:19 <veremit> on mine - the one nearest the edge of the board is definitely blinking with a heartbeat pattern, and the second over from that is flickering with activity
Jan 23 02:54:59 <mbennett> i tried pinging it and the connection was timing out
Jan 23 02:55:52 <veremit> olive_ .. once the drivers are installed, you can do as you like, when you like.
Jan 23 02:56:31 <veremit> I don't think its too fussy if you don't shut down cleanly...
Jan 23 02:56:52 <veremit> even.
Jan 23 02:59:19 <olive_> how to shut down ...
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