**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 02 02:59:58 2015
Feb 02 04:44:59 <DarkMatter> Hi, I'm new and I would like to contribute, can someone please get me started?
Feb 02 05:02:50 <av500> DarkMatter: read the website?
Feb 02 05:33:54 <akgupta> Can I install Real Tiome OS in Beaglebone black??
Feb 02 05:34:43 <akgupta> how should I install RT Linux in BBB??
Feb 02 05:35:10 <uhhimhere> rbpi 2's been launched
Feb 02 05:35:25 <av500> OMG
Feb 02 05:36:02 <plaw> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/02/raspberry_pi_model_2/
Feb 02 05:40:42 <akgupta> Can anyone help me to install RT Linux in Beaglebone Black??
Feb 02 05:42:14 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=bbb+rt+linux
Feb 02 05:42:18 <av500> that is all I know about that
Feb 02 05:44:29 <abc> Can anyone help me to install RT Linux in Beaglebone Black??
Feb 02 05:45:48 <av500> how does it help to change your nick all the time?
Feb 02 05:59:06 <beest> oh, you're not that pesky akgupta, we know how to help you after all.
Feb 02 06:03:48 <abc> what do you mean?? @beest
Feb 02 06:04:46 <beest> don't mind me, and no, i haven't installed RT on a BBB
Feb 02 06:43:02 <das_> hello
Feb 02 06:43:15 <das_> any one to help
Feb 02 06:45:26 <das_> hai any one
Feb 02 06:45:27 <das_> sos
Feb 02 06:46:03 <ZeekHuge> Just ask !! And be patient then, till someone answers.
Feb 02 06:46:23 <das_> thnks ZeekHuge
Feb 02 06:46:58 <das_> now i am facing problem with qt over ssh
Feb 02 06:49:17 <das_> hello uhhimhere
Feb 02 06:50:46 <uhhimhere> das_, hello
Feb 02 06:51:50 <das_> i mentioned some issues about qt and bbb
Feb 02 06:52:23 <das_> do you have any idea about it uhhimhere
Feb 02 06:53:30 <uhhimhere> no sorry
Feb 02 06:54:30 <das_> what about you uhhimhere
Feb 02 06:55:39 <uhhimhere> !ops bot
Feb 02 06:57:09 <das_> is ths channel almost dead ?
Feb 02 06:59:55 <Mikaela> it's night at many places
Feb 02 07:02:48 <das_> ithii Mikaela
Feb 02 07:03:22 <Mikaela> ?
Feb 02 07:04:09 <das_> Mikaela: do you have any idea about using qt over ssh
Feb 02 07:04:26 <Mikaela> no idea other than qt probably means graphical which means "ssh -x"
Feb 02 07:06:40 <das_> ya Mikaela ..i done some work with qt and bbbb , while trying to run it over ssh X is not getting worked , terminal one is running
Feb 02 07:07:03 <Mikaela> I don't have any idea then
Feb 02 07:07:58 <das_> what about you Mikaela
Feb 02 07:08:17 <Mikaela> ?
Feb 02 07:10:02 <das_> i mean your part with bbb
Feb 02 09:10:50 <plaw> on rcn's builds, what's the diff between the BBB-blank-eMMC-flasher and BBB-eMMC-flasher?
Feb 02 09:17:07 <Mikaela> it seems that I missed that message, but I am here just for curiosity and I have one BBB which I still haven't got to work, but I haven't tried so much and school tires me
Feb 02 09:27:02 <coold> Hello World
Feb 02 09:27:41 <coold> anyone here?
Feb 02 09:30:05 <av500> no
Feb 02 09:55:05 <coold> hi
Feb 02 09:55:30 <coold> Can i create my own Cape and sale it on cape store?
Feb 02 09:55:30 <beagl> anyone around?
Feb 02 09:55:43 <coold> and add it into cape wiki?
Feb 02 09:56:20 <beagl> I have a beagle black that the blue leds dont come on.  Not even power....Any troubleshooting ideas?
Feb 02 09:58:56 <coold> probe the voltage of led
Feb 02 09:59:43 <coold> and probe whether shorted
Feb 02 10:13:13 <PALANI> I have been using BBB. The BBB connect to my laptop via USB . I have used PuTTY.. How to install python library on BBB using Putty?
Feb 02 10:14:01 <woglinde> use pscp
Feb 02 10:16:07 <PALANI> how to use PSCP
Feb 02 10:28:45 <woglinde> PALANI from cmd
Feb 02 11:43:09 <auke> Hi! I tried to get  the latest Debian image to work with my BBB and 7 inch Chipsee expansion, but I just can't manage to get it to work
Feb 02 11:44:23 <auke> After following some tips on the forum (copying the boot files from the Angstrom image to the boot file on my SD), The display booted, but after the splash screen I just got a flashing underscore
Feb 02 12:13:15 <auke> Hi! I tried to get  the latest Debian image to work with my BBB and 7 inch Chipsee expansion, but I just can't manage to get it to work
Feb 02 12:13:17 <auke> After following some tips on the forum (copying the boot files from the Angstrom image to the boot file on my SD), The display booted, but after the splash screen I just got a flashing underscore
Feb 02 12:25:25 <woglinde> auke did you ever thought about that the kernels are not compatible?
Feb 02 12:26:24 <uhhimhere> raspberry pi 2 is out
Feb 02 12:28:42 <woglinde> uhhimhere and?
Feb 02 12:29:26 <uhhimhere> woglinde: i get 1 cent everytime i say that
Feb 02 12:29:27 <auke> woglinde: Yes, but I don't know how to fix that (same thing happens when I copy from the Debian image)
Feb 02 12:30:52 <uhhimhere> hey anybody have any good examples on drivers that have device tree bindings
Feb 02 12:31:14 <uhhimhere> or even better recently "adapted" ones
Feb 02 12:31:36 <woglinde> uhhimhere look into latest 3.20 kernel Documentation folder?
Feb 02 12:31:55 <woglinde> hm pri has new broadcom chipset and cortex a7
Feb 02 12:32:00 <woglinde> rpi2
Feb 02 12:32:03 <woglinde> I meant
Feb 02 12:32:12 <uhhimhere> woglinde: so ? :P
Feb 02 12:32:39 <uhhimhere> yeah dont forget 1g ram
Feb 02 12:33:22 <uhhimhere> woglinde: no not the documentation folder; give me an actual driver...
Feb 02 12:34:08 <woglinde> hm look at the tegra drivers
Feb 02 12:34:17 <uhhimhere> any specific one
Feb 02 12:34:32 <woglinde> *sigh*
Feb 02 12:34:40 <uhhimhere> XD
Feb 02 12:44:43 <uhhimhere> woglinde: see I ask because Id like someone who knows a good one to point it out to me
Feb 02 12:45:19 <uhhimhere> Id also like to see a "bad" one(non-standard bindings?)
Feb 02 12:49:28 <woglinde> uhhimhere better ask on the linux-arm-kernel mailinglist
Feb 02 12:49:40 <uhhimhere> ok
Feb 02 13:44:39 <adria> Hi
Feb 02 13:45:29 <adria> It seems that my BeagleBone died. When I plug in the Power supply, the Power LED blinks once and that's it. Is there any way to know if it's really dead or a way to revive it?
Feb 02 13:50:35 <adria> Hi, It seems that my BeagleBone died. When I plug in the Power supply, the Power LED blinks once and that's it. Is there any way to know if it's really dead or a way to revive it?
Feb 02 14:21:52 <samael> i see there are no (more) flasher images for jessie on elinux.org. are there some flasher images somewhere else? or, what's the quickest way to build one?
Feb 02 14:48:25 <av500> who is jessie?
Feb 02 14:49:00 <ogra_> the friend of billy the kid
Feb 02 14:49:30 <av500> ic
Feb 02 15:19:34 <Willie14228> Is it possible to use bone script or Python to read and respond to email commands
Feb 02 15:24:19 <Willie14228> The issue I have is I want to use bbb to monitor and report on a site that I would have to use a Verizon hotspot card no static ip and want to keep data usage down
Feb 02 15:25:34 <LetoThe2nd> Willie14228: i don't think take bonscript comes with prepared means for that, but for python - well its only software.
Feb 02 15:26:18 <LetoThe2nd> Willie14228: so grab some python lib that can poll $MAILSERVER, then parse whats coming in, profit.
Feb 02 15:28:55 <Willie14228> I know python can parse emails but can't figure out how to port them over to a "listener" that would follow commands from it.
Feb 02 15:31:13 <LetoThe2nd> Willie14228: I don't see the problem. you have some python code that gets data, you parse that data, you act accordingly.
Feb 02 15:33:05 <woglinde> Willie14228 willy can you not use dyndns?
Feb 02 15:33:27 <woglinde> solving the problem via email is a bit over engineered
Feb 02 15:34:29 <Willie14228> to tell the truth I'm very new at this so I really don't know
Feb 02 15:35:00 <av500> find a python module that handles email
Feb 02 15:35:16 <av500> write some code around it that does stuff depending on mail content
Feb 02 15:35:31 <woglinde> Willie14228 than look up what dyndns is
Feb 02 15:37:49 <samael> ok let me rephrase: can i use some of the scripts here https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts to flash the system from the running uSD to the eMMC?
Feb 02 15:37:53 <Willie14228> Here is the issue in a nutshell, I have to use hotspot  connections and comp like Verizon will charge 500 for a static ip, I need to be able to send commands to the unit from outside the network and need at times to see video or pics of the area
Feb 02 15:38:39 <tbr> it's been said several times: dyndns
Feb 02 15:38:39 <av500> woglinde: dyndns does not help on a heavily NATed network
Feb 02 15:38:44 <av500> tbr: dito
Feb 02 15:38:57 <tbr> av500: do we know there is CGN? no we don't
Feb 02 15:39:08 <av500> quoi?
Feb 02 15:39:15 <woglinde> tbr hm mobile stuff
Feb 02 15:39:22 <woglinde> so av500 might be right
Feb 02 15:39:23 <av500> tbr: assume the worst
Feb 02 15:39:26 <tbr> av500: carrier grade nat
Feb 02 15:39:26 <av500> then double it
Feb 02 15:39:30 <av500> tbr: there is
Feb 02 15:39:52 <woglinde> samel why not?
Feb 02 15:40:14 <woglinde> hm
Feb 02 15:40:30 <woglinde> Willie14228_ I have another idea, portforwarding
Feb 02 15:40:33 <tbr> well, then VPN or IPv6 tunnel or sthg
Feb 02 15:40:40 <woglinde> yes
Feb 02 15:40:50 <av500> woglinde: on a mobile network???
Feb 02 15:40:52 * tbr has so far always found a way to tunnel out, even if it had to be DNS
Feb 02 15:41:05 <av500> woglinde: tell me how you do that
Feb 02 15:41:12 <Willie14228_> Sorry using mobile device open another tab and I lose this one
Feb 02 15:41:14 <woglinde> av500 ssh?
Feb 02 15:41:17 <av500> ??
Feb 02 15:41:20 <av500> into what?
Feb 02 15:41:27 <woglinde> a remote server?
Feb 02 15:41:42 <woglinde> bbb -> remote server; send commands to remote server
Feb 02 15:41:54 <av500> right, you just added a remote server into the problem
Feb 02 15:42:01 <woglinde> Willie14228_ is the device always online?
Feb 02 15:42:22 <woglinde> av500 uh otherwise you add remote email server to the problem
Feb 02 15:42:41 <av500> woglinde: email is a solved problem
Feb 02 15:42:48 <av500> you get it for free
Feb 02 15:42:53 <av500> with your aol account
Feb 02 15:43:00 <woglinde> haha
Feb 02 15:43:09 <samael> woglinde: ok, if yes then, which one should i use? there are many and not much comments in there, still doubtful
Feb 02 15:45:35 <Willie14228_> The hotspot would stay connected yes but I get blocked from direct access because of no static ip and if I try to keep it connected to a webpage or server then I would be running the data up
Feb 02 15:46:28 <Willie14228_> That was the reason for the email idea
Feb 02 15:46:47 <Willie14228_> But I welcome better easier ideas
Feb 02 15:47:03 <woglinde> samael maybee https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/tools/eMMC/init-eMMC-flasher-v3.sh ?
Feb 02 15:47:28 <woglinde> Willie14228_ vpn or ssh tunnel
Feb 02 15:47:45 <woglinde> no need for static ip for communication
Feb 02 15:47:53 <av500> Willie14228_: you can still connect to a server from time to time
Feb 02 15:47:59 <av500> much like polling for email
Feb 02 15:48:04 <av500> if you have a remote server
Feb 02 15:48:10 <av500> if not, email is a way
Feb 02 15:51:45 <Willie14228_> The issue is the unit would be acting as a trigger for a animal trap so to give an example .... Email sent to me motion detected with pic of trap..... I look and if I have what I want I spring the trap
Feb 02 15:55:54 <av500> sure
Feb 02 15:55:57 <av500> email is fine for that
Feb 02 15:56:55 <samael> woglinde: i gave a look at the code (cause i found no comments or instructions) and found it's meant to be run at boot, and by hand it does not run indeed (or needs some argument maybe). anyway i just decommented the proper line found in uEnv.txt, seems to work. thanks
Feb 02 15:58:14 <woglinde> samael fine ;)
Feb 02 15:59:57 <Willie14228_> But how, that is my roadblock. I know Python can parse email messages but can it cross the line to use them to control the unit? Does anyone have an idea where I might look for some ideas
Feb 02 16:00:02 <marabou> hi there
Feb 02 16:02:44 <marabou> i don't know if it's the right place to ask this but i'll try : as a beginner in BBB, how can i resize the screen to make the different applications (terminal,...) to take the full size for the screen (on BB View 4.3") and not more? (sorry for my english)
Feb 02 16:03:28 <Willie14228_> So for example the parser knows to listen for emails from my address, I send an email with subject line Status.... It would then reply back with battery level, and so on
Feb 02 16:04:49 <tbr> Willie14228_: it becomes a parsing and acting problem. basic programming, also in python.
Feb 02 16:06:43 <Willie14228_> Ok thanks .....
Feb 02 16:07:20 <marabou> idk willie
Feb 02 16:08:13 <marabou> (and i couldn't see the beginning of your question)
Feb 02 16:48:58 <Abhishek_> hi jkridner
Feb 02 16:51:44 <Abhishek_> av500: Was there a meeting (regarding GSoC)?
Feb 02 17:00:01 <ZeekHuge> Abhishek_: Its scheduled to be on next Monday 12:00 to 13:00 on #beagle-gsoc
Feb 02 17:00:54 <Abhishek_> Zeeknext: You mean the 9th of Feb?
Feb 02 17:01:02 <ZeekHuge> There was a meeting today though .
Feb 02 17:01:02 <ZeekHuge> !
Feb 02 17:01:02 <Abhishek_> sorry, ZeekHuge
Feb 02 17:01:17 <Abhishek_> hmm, what time?
Feb 02 17:03:15 <Abhishek_> I see
Feb 02 17:03:39 <Abhishek_> just checked the ogs
Feb 02 17:04:48 <av500> there was a meeting on friday
Feb 02 17:06:27 <Abhishek_> Yeah, just checked the logs
Feb 02 17:06:43 <Abhishek_> I just put a new idea on the wiki page and open it for further discussion
Feb 02 17:06:55 <av500> good
Feb 02 20:00:14 <sam__> Hi
Feb 02 22:23:29 <theunleet> Just picked up a BeagleBoard Black. I know of a project for Raspberry PI where I can output Pandora information to a screen(Or TFT Touch Shield?), use buttons to change things, and listen to it via the headphone jack. Software-side would be pretty easy, but what components would I use?(I already have a TFT Touch Shield)
Feb 02 22:23:54 <theunleet> I would need to get sound somehow..
Feb 02 23:23:24 <cityLights> Is there a way to do FFT in beaglebone black using hardware/
Feb 02 23:23:25 <cityLights> ?
Feb 02 23:32:38 <agmlego|skynet> Sure.
Feb 02 23:32:42 <agmlego|skynet> THe CPU is hardware.
Feb 02 23:57:01 <thurgood_> lol
Feb 02 23:58:38 <agmlego|skynet> cityLights: But if you mean like GPU-accelerated FFT...youy might be out of luck. I am not sure the AM335x supports GPGPU operations.
Feb 02 23:59:58 <ds2> you can give up some of the precision and phrase things in terms of GLES
Feb 03 00:01:17 <agmlego|skynet> Yeah, that could work.
Feb 03 00:16:57 <Kowalsk1> Is there a definive cape for PRUs?
Feb 03 00:17:18 <ds2> that question makes no sense
Feb 03 00:17:47 <thurgood_> didn't know there were any
Feb 03 00:18:16 <Kowalsk1> PRU-01 work but it doesn't if I compile it my self
Feb 03 00:18:45 <ds2> if you are messing with PRU verilog, you need to contact your IP supplier
Feb 03 00:19:43 <Kowalsk1> verilog? I was wondering about the device tree overlay
Feb 03 00:20:53 <Kowalsk1> p8.27 works with the default but what if I want to add another GPO?
Feb 03 00:32:19 <newb_i3> my sdcard is mounted as /dev/mmcblck0 and 1 but how can i have it recognized as /dev/sdx ? I want to flash my kernel image on the sdcard
Feb 03 00:32:45 <agmlego|skynet> ...just use the /dev/mmcblckX device node.
Feb 03 00:33:16 <agmlego|skynet> It is the same concept as the sdXY nodes, just for eMMC instead of SCSI devices.
Feb 03 00:33:56 <newb_i3> agmlego|skynet: thanks but i am getting "Cant find boot partition in /dev"
Feb 03 00:34:38 <agmlego|skynet> Sounds like you are doing things wrongly.
Feb 03 00:34:47 <newb_i3> agmlego|skynet: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners i m using mkcard.txt script
Feb 03 00:36:06 <agmlego|skynet> newb_i3: And you are running mkcard.txt script on your host Linux machine?
Feb 03 00:37:18 <newb_i3> agmlego|skynet: oh sorry got it.Thanks i was using the wrong tab. I should be running it on my board.
Feb 03 00:37:31 <agmlego|skynet> ...no.
Feb 03 00:38:26 <agmlego|skynet> mkcard.txt is to create a bootable SD card on a host machine, to boot the bone onto.
Feb 03 00:38:41 <agmlego|skynet> It will probably do bad things if you run it on your bone.
Feb 03 00:39:41 <newb_i3> agmlego|skynet: ok then i was doing the right thing. I mounted my sdcard on my fedora system and was running my script on the sdcard.
Feb 03 00:40:01 <agmlego|skynet> OK.
Feb 03 00:40:47 <agmlego|skynet> Then you probably should check to see what the driver you are using for your SD card reader is doing when it creates the device nodes.
Feb 03 00:41:03 <agmlego|skynet> Or, modify the script to account for the difference in location.
Feb 03 00:41:16 <agmlego|skynet> Or, do the process manually as laid out on that same wiki page.
Feb 03 00:41:34 <newb_i3> agmlego|skynet: will do the process manually and see if it works.
Feb 03 00:47:20 <newb_i3> agmlego|skynet: just one more question. http://elinux.org/Building_BBB_Kernel this link only mentions about beaglebone kernel but i have beagleboard-xm so i think the kernel config file will be different. Where can i get that kernel config file?
Feb 03 00:47:49 <newb_i3> basically looking for steps to build angstrom latest kernel for beagleboard-xm
Feb 03 00:53:27 <agmlego|skynet> That is a really excellent question.
Feb 03 00:53:42 <agmlego|skynet> I have no idea; wait and see if anyone else in-channel knows.
Feb 03 01:51:56 <Kowalsk1> Well my .dts on old version of arch
Feb 03 01:52:03 <Kowalsk1> works
Feb 03 02:09:23 <jp128> The image for Debian SD card at http://beagleboard.org/latest-images (Debian (BeagleBone, BeagleBone Black - 2GB SD) 2014-05-14 ) doesn't boot on my Beaglebone Black. Anyone have similar issues?
Feb 03 02:09:38 <jp128> I am imaging the SD card with Win32DiskImager
Feb 03 02:10:41 * agmlego|skynet gazes into his crystal ball for lack of any further information.
Feb 03 02:12:20 <jp128> With other images, and imaging with Win32DiskImager, they boot fine, but I don't want to image the eMMC, I'd rather use the SD card since it has much more space
Feb 03 02:13:51 <jp128> Image: http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/bone-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb.img.xz, Imager: http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
Feb 03 02:14:20 <jp128> When using this image, the BeagleBone Black (revB) does not turn on
Feb 03 02:14:26 <agmlego|skynet> Sure. What does it do instead of booting?
Feb 03 02:14:37 <agmlego|skynet> Does it do a cdance? Write a novel? Insult your cat?
Feb 03 02:14:48 <jp128> It does nothing.
Feb 03 02:14:52 <agmlego|skynet> Are you sure?
Feb 03 02:14:55 <jp128> no lights except for the power
Feb 03 02:15:01 <agmlego|skynet> What does its serial output say?
Feb 03 02:15:30 <jp128> That is something that I haven't gotten, because I am not sure how I would get it.
Feb 03 02:15:47 <agmlego|skynet> With a USB serial adapter.
Feb 03 02:16:05 <agmlego|skynet> Plugged into the debug serial header on the board.
Feb 03 02:18:29 <jp128> Okay, so I suppose I would need to purchase that then.
Feb 03 02:18:52 <agmlego|skynet> Yes.
Feb 03 02:19:08 <jp128> Looks like http://www.amazon.com/GearMo%C2%AE-3-3v-Header-like-TTL-232R-3V3/dp/B004LBXO2A/ref=pd_bxgy_indust_img_y is one? Are there any that are less expensive or is that a normal price?
Feb 03 02:20:07 <agmlego|skynet> Well, that one seems about the right ballpark, but you might also look at SFE or Adafruit.
Feb 03 02:20:46 <agmlego|skynet> And with regards the complaint about cost...are you sure you want to cheap out on the debug tools you want to use to troubleshoot, or would yopu really rather be able to trust that they ar enot the source of the issues...?
Feb 03 02:20:50 <agmlego|skynet> ;-P
Feb 03 02:21:38 <jp128> No, I don't mind the price; I just don't like overpaying for something because it is on Site X vs Site Y
Feb 03 02:24:03 <jp128> I am fairly new to BeagleBone, so I apologize for the random questions
Feb 03 02:38:42 <jp128> cable is on its way, from adafruit, should arrive by wednesday.
Feb 03 02:38:43 <jp128> thanks
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