**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 13 02:59:58 2015 Feb 13 03:02:16 hi Feb 13 03:02:24 i got question on my bbb Feb 13 03:02:39 i'm connecting my new board with mac, using usb Feb 13 03:03:03 driver installed, it shows ip 169.254.157.129, but i cannot ssh to it Feb 13 03:03:06 pls help Feb 13 03:08:37 looks like the mac auto-assigned the ip... can you refresh the connection? the bbb should give your mac an 192.168.7.x address.. Feb 13 03:22:35 i've tried refresh, not much diff Feb 13 03:23:13 before i experienced such, i've ssh inside and enabled dhcp on eth0 Feb 13 04:09:48 hi, i still couldn't connect to my bbb using usb Feb 13 04:13:41 the board is giving the wrong ip, would it be due to usb to serial driver? Feb 13 04:54:16 hey all. I have a custom IPL for QNX 6.5.0. When I run it through qemu (set up to use beaglexm), I see this Feb 13 04:54:41 QNX Neutrino Initial Program Loader for Texas Instruments OMAP3730 CMC HW Boards IPL Version 1.23 -- IF FRAM indicates all IFSes are Uninitialize the FRAM Flags and Retry Feb 13 04:55:41 I have set up an SD card and tried various things using a beagle build of MLO and u-boot, but I'd like to figure out how to get this to load using the IPL and ifs bin I have Feb 13 06:22:37 arrrggg... prudebuggers broken Feb 13 08:20:00 hello any help on downloading xerver Feb 13 08:21:07 what's xerver? Feb 13 08:21:48 xserver* Feb 13 08:22:14 which distribution and which board? Feb 13 08:22:46 BBB and debian Feb 13 08:24:17 the debian image running on my BBB already has an xserver running including a lightdm Feb 13 08:24:54 are you sure there is no xserver? are you using the default image? Feb 13 08:25:23 yes Feb 13 08:27:05 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-HDMI Feb 13 08:27:10 that might help you Feb 13 08:39:57 done !! thanks @tbr Feb 13 08:41:17 did it work? good Feb 13 08:45:07 yup Feb 13 08:46:05 :) Feb 13 10:20:59 hello, i want to put Ubuntu 14.04 on my Beagle Bone Black, where can i find step to step instruction on how to do it? Feb 13 10:21:19 i am using a windows machine Feb 13 10:23:16 ASEV: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Ubuntu_On_BeagleBone_Black this one maybe Feb 13 10:23:38 thank you, im having some trouble following those instructions Feb 13 10:24:09 if you have problems, be specific about them Feb 13 10:24:48 tbr: yes Feb 13 10:25:38 i first tried to use linux on VM, but i got stuck on the part where i am supposed setup the sdcard with ./setup_sdcard.sh Feb 13 10:26:12 the script didnt recongnize my sd card path Feb 13 10:26:34 mount point was in /media/user/sdcard Feb 13 10:29:20 so change the script? Feb 13 10:30:06 what should i change it? Feb 13 10:30:22 dunno. i haven't seen it Feb 13 10:30:52 but i mean, it's not like it's magic involved in figuring out that path Feb 13 10:31:32 hm. I have added a usb stick to my /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/STICK vfat user,umask=0000 0 0 Feb 13 10:31:43 however, now my bbb won't boot w/o the usb stick in. Feb 13 10:32:08 noauto perhaps? Feb 13 10:32:24 i would like it to mount upon insertion... Feb 13 10:46:38 ok, now i installed the recommended debian image Feb 13 10:46:49 and i am trying to extend the file system Feb 13 10:47:12 i followed the instructions for fdisk Feb 13 10:47:32 but after finishing the instructions, i have: Feb 13 10:47:40 rootfs 1582864 1560904 0 100% / Feb 13 10:48:06 so, i dont have any available disk space? Feb 13 11:00:36 Can anybody point me at where to find a current version of can-utils? Feb 13 11:00:55 All of the references I have point to berlios.de. Feb 13 11:01:24 didnt that shut down? Feb 13 11:01:36 Exactly. Feb 13 11:02:00 I tried using git clone https://git.gitorious.org/linux-can/can-utils.git, but it hacks up hairballs complaining about autoconf. Feb 13 11:02:18 when I try the autogen.sh/configure dance. Feb 13 11:02:55 And lots of the tutorials reference "cancontrol" which isn't even present in that repository. Feb 13 11:03:02 I'm very confused. :( Feb 13 11:04:02 I'm running the latest Debian image on a uSD card. Feb 13 11:41:00 ASEV: There's a script under /opt somewhere that should do the partition expansion for you. Feb 13 11:42:25 Is the C the latest revision of the BB-xM? I'm having trouble tracking any down in the UK, is the board still in production or going through a revision change at the moment? Feb 13 11:42:51 puzzles, thanks i got it work Feb 13 13:49:24 Hi, I am new to beglebone. I have a small question I tried some answers on internet. If I connect the beaglebone to my LAN, how can I set its default gateway automatically to access internet. May be on restart, to set the gateway by getting it from somewhere. I am on Debian. Any help would be appreciated. Feb 13 13:50:15 /etc/network/interfaces Feb 13 13:50:33 get familiar with syntax Feb 13 13:50:46 and there are tons of tutorials outwhere Feb 13 13:51:01 on debian you can also do man interfaces Feb 13 13:52:23 woglinde: thanks for trying to help me. Can I ask a little thing as I am new. On reboot, can I tell the beaglebone to set it own gateway according to the LAN? Feb 13 13:53:42 /etc/network/interfaces Feb 13 13:53:48 get familiar with syntax Feb 13 13:53:56 and there are tons of tutorials outwhere Feb 13 13:54:01 on debian you can also do man interfaces Feb 13 13:55:24 woglinde: Thanks, I will have a look. The thing I wanted to know is, is it possible to do like that? Feb 13 13:55:46 yes use /etc/network/interfaces Feb 13 13:56:46 woglinde: thanks. I will go though this. Appreciate your advice Feb 13 14:34:17 dhcp ftw Feb 13 14:34:29 just plug it in :p Feb 13 14:35:58 are there dyson-esque cyclonic filter alternatives for PC fans? Feb 13 14:36:56 * av500 is not a fan of the PC Feb 13 14:39:31 ok howbout a "server chasis" Feb 13 14:48:29 stt_michael: ipv6 ftw, no need for a server :) Feb 13 14:48:57 Humpelst1lzchen, tis the way forward :p Feb 13 14:50:05 although , with the IoT, the ipv6 address space should be used up fairly quickly :D Feb 13 14:50:44 the MAC space probably will emmpty first Feb 13 14:51:35 either or :) Feb 13 16:46:47 Hello, I'm looking for a way through the device tree to only enable the clock for a device, without loading the driver.. is that possible? I was able to do it with a really ugly solution, but I want a cleaner way Feb 13 16:49:09 I was able to do it by completely commenting said device (uart6) out of the devicetree, and setting ti,hwmod="uart6" on the entry for another UART that I'm not actually using Feb 13 16:51:05 so I think I can conclude that the ti,hwmod="uart6" is somehow what causes the clock enable to happen.. just wondering if there's a way to make a dummy entry in the device tree to make that happen without binding a driver to an address Feb 13 18:06:24 Hello, I am new to electronics and would like to ask you how to check if beaglebone black is damaged(burned out)? Feb 13 18:08:57 chemist_: what did u do? Feb 13 18:11:22 chemist_: led are on/off? Feb 13 18:12:07 all led are off Feb 13 18:12:48 connected something? Feb 13 18:12:48 when trying to power BBB the power led is on for a few milliseconds and than goes off Feb 13 18:14:18 this happened when I was wiring my sensor and BBB went off. after that I cannot bring him back alive Feb 13 18:14:47 check the voltage on C9 c12 c11 Feb 13 18:15:34 c9=1.5v c12=1.325 c11=1.125 Feb 13 18:16:37 My BBB just died too Feb 13 18:19:08 what do you mean by c9? I checked pin P 5, it gives 5.25V Feb 13 18:19:56 sorry, P9_5 Feb 13 18:20:04 capacitor Feb 13 18:25:07 if i measure correctly (which I doubt) the voltage is 0 Feb 13 18:28:18 chemist_: Generally, it is just the PMIC that needs repalcing (tps65217c) Feb 13 18:29:55 chemist_: or you have blown the processor. Request an RMA. Feb 13 18:30:31 ok, thanks for your help Feb 13 18:30:35 np Feb 13 18:40:41 sbattazzo: you could always omit mention of the clock from the device tree and turn it on via /dev/mem Feb 13 18:40:49 (yes, that's gross) Feb 13 18:41:53 seems likely you can also request the clock to be turned on via device tree, but my device-tree-fu skills are not yet sufficient to be able to say how Feb 13 18:46:33 NAMES Feb 13 18:46:45 or maybe you can try something like serial@481aa000 { compatible = "simple-bus"; ti,hwmods = "uart6"; } Feb 13 18:46:59 ; Feb 13 18:47:50 hi, i used the command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and appears "unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop" Feb 13 18:48:18 andresing: ping google.com Feb 13 18:48:18 phew, apt just saved you from installing ubuntu-desktop ... you are lucky Feb 13 18:48:36 zmatt: lol Feb 13 18:51:09 it should write "sudo apt-get update"? Feb 13 18:51:36 yep Feb 13 18:52:07 it works the eth Feb 13 18:52:45 sbattazzo: actually, a plausible guess at a usable DT entry would be: serial@481aa000 { reg = <0x481aa000 0x2000>; ti,hwmods = "uart6"; clock-frequency = <48000000>; compatible = "simple-bus"; }; Feb 13 18:54:36 sbattazzo: the clock-frequency is presumably used for clock config so it seems prudent to keep it, "simple-bus" is the most obvious choice of a driver that basically does nothing, and the reg is probably not needed but just in case Feb 13 18:54:38 I need to power down ethernet(lan8710). Does anyone have any ideas? Feb 13 18:55:03 sbattazzo: for decorative purposes you might also add #size-cells = <0x1>; Feb 13 18:55:10 #address-cells = <0x1>; ranges; Feb 13 18:55:18 (sorry, premature enter) Feb 13 18:57:26 sbattazzo: I've been thinking it would actually be nice to have a really simple driver that just allows userspace to mmap the declared register ranges, receive interrupts (if declared in DT), and setup dma transfers (again if declared in DT) Feb 13 18:58:06 i.e. a generic I-just-want-to-play-with-this-peripheral-from-userspace driver :P Feb 13 18:58:57 (as the UIO framework docs explain that's kind of a problem on "classic" platforms because they often had shared IRQ lines, but that's a non-issue on SoCs like the am335x) Feb 13 20:08:09 this looks interesting, using the BBB: http://wiki.vero-apparatus.com/OpenTAC Feb 13 20:09:13 vagrantc, even bare pcb's. ;) Feb 13 20:09:58 I like that fpga cape that's appeared :) Feb 13 20:10:56 so much hardware, so little time. ;) Feb 13 20:11:56 hell yea Feb 13 20:13:05 anyone ever trying "asking" buildbot, what build # is running while inside the buildbot? Feb 13 20:17:18 zmatt: thanks for the suggestions.. I did try the /dev/mem thing but it wouldn't let me open to that address for some reason... Feb 13 20:48:25 can anybody help with my problem? i was running a circuit but now my BBB does not power on Feb 13 20:48:36 only light blinks quickly when i push power Feb 13 21:27:28 Hi Feb 13 21:28:21 I am trying to get access for micro sd card on beaglebone black. Feb 13 21:28:46 I found this: Feb 13 21:28:49 root@beaglebone:~# lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT mmcblk0boot0 179:8 0 1M 1 disk mmcblk0boot1 179:16 0 1M 1 disk mmcblk0 179:0 0 1.8G 0 disk |-mmcblk0p1 179:1 0 70.6M 0 part /media/BEAGLEBONE `-mmcblk0p2 179:2 0 1.7G 0 part / Feb 13 21:29:18 root@beaglebone:~# lsblk Feb 13 21:29:23 NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT Feb 13 21:29:29 mmcblk0boot0 179:8 0 1M 1 disk Feb 13 21:29:30 or fdisk -l Feb 13 21:29:35 mmcblk0boot1 179:16 0 1M 1 disk Feb 13 21:31:15 or df -ah Feb 13 21:31:28 fdisk -l Feb 13 21:31:31 output: Feb 13 21:31:45 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 1920 MB, 1920991232 bytes Feb 13 21:31:52 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 233 cylinders, total 3751936 sectors Feb 13 21:32:00 Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Feb 13 21:32:05 uy Feb 13 21:32:07 Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Feb 13 21:32:23 AK: next time use pastebin Feb 13 21:32:49 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Feb 13 21:33:32 I am sorry, I am new to IRC ... Feb 13 21:34:57 tholm: searching pastebin Feb 13 21:35:15 pastebin.com Feb 13 21:35:49 Okay Feb 13 21:36:49 _dev_mmcblk0p1 Feb 13 21:37:05 _dev_mmcblk0p2 Feb 13 21:37:18 anyway try this: mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /mnt Feb 13 21:37:39 or mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /mnt Feb 13 21:37:58 tholm: we have two micro-sd card chips on beagle board Feb 13 21:38:13 we did not find /dev/mmcblk1* Feb 13 21:38:25 only /dev/mmcblk0 and others Feb 13 21:38:38 not /dev/mmcblk1 .. Feb 13 21:38:55 are u using bbb? Feb 13 21:39:11 yes Feb 13 21:39:19 debian distro? Feb 13 21:40:40 It must be .. Feb 13 21:40:50 here is through pastbin.com :-) Feb 13 21:40:53 root@beaglebone:~# fdisk -l Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 1920 MB, 1920991232 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 233 cylinders, total 3751936 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 * 63 144584 72261 c Feb 13 21:41:04 that's NOT pastebin.com... Feb 13 21:41:10 lol Feb 13 21:41:37 sorry :-D Feb 13 21:42:19 eMMC 2gb Feb 13 21:42:23 uname -a Feb 13 21:42:29 output: Feb 13 21:42:33 Linux beaglebone 3.8.6 #1 SMP Sat Apr 13 09:10:52 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux Feb 13 21:42:38 Yes eMMC 2gb Feb 13 21:43:07 Angstrom Distribution Feb 13 21:43:12 yes Feb 13 21:44:22 upgrade ur distro to debian Feb 13 21:45:11 debin can be installed on eMMC 2GB? Feb 13 21:45:18 debian* Feb 13 21:45:22 my bad Feb 13 21:46:16 let me check Feb 13 21:46:28 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian Feb 13 21:46:29 thank you Feb 13 21:46:42 This image can be written to a 2GB Feb 13 21:48:19 Okay ... Is it not possible through Armstrong? Feb 13 21:51:02 mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt Feb 13 21:52:37 eMMC is /dev/mmcblk0, so micro sd is /dev/mmcblk1 Feb 13 21:55:28 root@beaglebone:~# ls -l /dev/mmcblk* Feb 13 21:55:30 output: Feb 13 21:55:39 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 179, 0 Jan 1 2000 /dev/mmcblk0 Feb 13 21:55:55 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 179, 8 Jan 1 2000 /dev/mmcblk0boot0 Feb 13 21:56:02 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 179, 16 Jan 1 2000 /dev/mmcblk0boot1 Feb 13 21:56:12 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 179, 1 Jan 1 2000 /dev/mmcblk0p1 Feb 13 21:56:20 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 179, 2 Jan 1 2000 /dev/mmcblk0p2 Feb 13 21:56:53 There is no /dev/mmcblk1 is AbSeNt Feb 13 21:57:09 AK, did you plug in the microSD? Feb 13 21:57:20 plugged in Feb 13 21:57:40 trialed many times to plugin and unplug Feb 13 21:57:45 okay, well your kernel is so dirt old, it doesn't have the microSD hotplug enabled... Feb 13 21:57:59 that was an issues with a very old Angstrom release.. Feb 13 21:58:03 i told him Feb 13 21:58:16 upgrade ur distro Feb 13 21:59:03 hey we have 3.8.6 kernel ... Feb 13 21:59:13 AK, which is as old as dirt... Feb 13 21:59:19 :-D Feb 13 21:59:22 Okay Feb 13 21:59:35 Will try upgrade ... Feb 13 21:59:57 's/Will/do/g' Feb 13 22:00:03 Thank you rcn-ee, tholm Feb 13 22:00:46 hi guys. i'm having a hell of a time with g_multi -- seems like it may be unstable with the audio cape enabled. on the stock 3.8 kernel, it worked fine but i couldn't get audio cape to work. on 3.14 now (bleeding image from Robert Nelson)... Feb 13 22:00:52 sed -i 's/Will/do/g' /beaglebone/black/eMMC #:-D Feb 13 22:01:06 and i either don't get an IP, or it isn't recognized by my laptop, or usb0 doesn't come up at all, or it gets disconnected Feb 13 22:01:19 this only happened after i disabled the HDMI and enabled the audio cape. has anyone seen this before? Feb 13 22:01:34 (all i'm trying to do is get a stable ip-over-usb) Feb 13 22:02:18 blaine, which uname -r? g_mulit should be working like 3.8 with the latest.. make sure you use dtb-rebuilder for the audio cape.. sorry i haven't tested the audio cape, just ported the 3.8 dtbo.. Feb 13 22:02:32 blaine: audio cape works great on 3.8 Feb 13 22:03:36 sorry, web IRC client crashed. Feb 13 22:03:48 rcn-ee: im running 3.8.13-bone70 and audio cape works Feb 13 22:03:56 rcn-ee: Linux beaglebone 3.14.31-ti-r48 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 30 06:09:28 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux Feb 13 22:04:33 tholm: so i had 3.8.13 -- and it appears it _should have_ worked, (cape showed up in capemgr, in alsa -l) -- but unfortunately i kept getting operation not permitted when playing files Feb 13 22:04:42 blaine, yeap, fixed g_multi in r49: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/ti-linux-kernel-dev/commit/f053238eec79b43ea0b30ee4ae67c9d53ccc2086 Feb 13 22:04:44 figured i'd try bleeding edge to see what the deal was Feb 13 22:04:58 rcn-ee: oh cool. glad i'm not going crazy. Feb 13 22:05:41 rcn-ee: would you not recommend latest for audio cape though? sounds like 3.8 should work fine (maybe i goofed something) Feb 13 22:06:28 blaine: that's weird..... i got audio cape V1 and is working fine Feb 13 22:06:32 well, it works in 3.8, for 3.14 you need to specify the *.dtb for the audio cape: (like shown: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14 ) Feb 13 22:06:33 on 3.8.13 Feb 13 22:06:45 tholm: i do have audio cape rev A -- think that matters? Feb 13 22:07:03 i got the same Feb 13 22:07:23 tholm: ok, maybe i should give it another go Feb 13 22:07:38 i think so Feb 13 22:07:56 blaine_, for rev A, set: dtb=am335x-boneblack-audio-reva.dtb in /boot/uEnv.txt ;) Feb 13 22:07:57 tholm: do you use wifi? i did have to disable all HDMI for wifi to work -- i can't imagine that would affect it though Feb 13 22:08:12 rcn-ee: cool, thanks! (on 3.8 or 3.14?) Feb 13 22:08:14 nope Feb 13 22:08:27 that's 3.14.. (where we dont' have capemgr, so nothing is "automatic") Feb 13 22:08:40 cool. thank you. Feb 13 22:09:12 rcn-ee: is there an -r49 image floating around yet? I don't have a build chain set up -- if not no problem, i can work on that this weekend Feb 13 22:09:24 don't thank me fully.. ;) i don't have a rev a, just a b, so i copied from the 3.8.x ;) Feb 13 22:09:40 oh hehe Feb 13 22:09:51 blaine_, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.33-ti-r50 Feb 13 22:09:57 ; sudo reboot Feb 13 22:10:08 oh ok. i'll give that a shot Feb 13 22:12:29 idk if this can help you but in uEnv.txt i got this line: optargs=capemgr.enable_partno=BB-BONE-AUDI-01 Feb 13 22:12:50 thanks tholm -- i believe i have that too (plus the part about disabling HDMI and HDMIN) Feb 13 22:13:05 it was amazing -- 2500ms response time over wifi with HDMI enabled, and them 20ms response time with HDMI disabled Feb 13 22:13:36 yeah... get a usb-extension cable... the hdmi ground is too close to the usb/wifi/antenna.. ;) Feb 13 22:13:54 fortunately i don't need hdmi so all good -- we've got a custom enclosure too so it's nice to keep it tight Feb 13 22:14:50 rcn-ee: for the dtb= line to work, does my dtbo file have to match it? or is it some other magic not based on filename? Feb 13 22:15:41 blaine_, it has to be the real file name.. your basicly telling u-boot to load "am335x-boneblack-audio-reva.dtb" (with audio rev a support) over the default "am335x-boneblack.dtb".... Feb 13 22:16:06 ok cool. installing kernel now Feb 13 22:16:47 if the file doesn't exist, there will be issues.. (on later images, which should go to circuitco) on dtb read failure it'll enable usb-flash support, so the eMMC will show up on your pc as a flash devices, to easily fix.. Feb 13 22:17:28 gotcha. do i need th dtb-rebuilder then? Feb 13 22:17:31 or can i just rename it Feb 13 22:18:08 just edit /boot/uEnv.txt with that dtb= value... Most of the capes are supported in the build... It's when you have two or more, you need to use the dtb-rebuilder.. Feb 13 22:18:16 perfect, ty Feb 13 22:18:40 depmod: ERROR: Module 'hci_vhci' has devname (vhci) but lacks major and minor information. Ignoring. Feb 13 22:18:45 does that matter? Feb 13 22:19:16 nope it's fine... havent' traced that config yet to quiet it down, so just noise.. Feb 13 22:19:33 rcn-ee: one more question -- with the new kernel do i still need cape_enable= line in uEnv.txt? Feb 13 22:19:51 nope, with 3.14 those just don't work. ;) Feb 13 22:20:14 didnt think so, cool Feb 13 22:20:15 so if you want to just keep them their for 3.8 when you swap back and forth, it'll be fine.. Feb 13 22:20:26 rcn-ee: is it different to disable hdmi too? Feb 13 22:20:38 BB-BONE-AUDI-02-00A0.dtbo Feb 13 22:20:41 that's the name of my dtbo file Feb 13 22:20:43 in /lib/firmware Feb 13 22:21:30 nope, you'll have to use the dtb-rebuilder and comment out this line: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/dtb-rebuilder/blob/3.14-ti/src/arm/am335x-boneblack-audio-reva.dts#L49 Feb 13 22:21:43 (just like 46 is disabled to allow the audio cape to work) Feb 13 22:22:10 ok cool Feb 13 22:22:26 one thing at a time, heh. let me reboot this now and see Feb 13 22:23:43 rcn-ee: unfortunately net usb didn't come up -- still no ip address on host side Feb 13 22:23:50 on pc side i mean Feb 13 22:24:18 which image, console/lxde/lxqt? Feb 13 22:24:41 rcn-ee: this was bone-debian-jessie-lxqt-4gb-armhf-2015-02-01-4gb.img Feb 13 22:25:10 console didn't have it at all on 7.8, jesse at least came up before i added the audiocape kernel params Feb 13 22:25:20 blaine, yeah, i'm fighting systemd, for some reason, the script doesn't always run with the latest chagne... Feb 13 22:25:32 sudo /opt/script/boot/am335x_evm.sh Feb 13 22:25:37 should fire it up... Feb 13 22:25:39 interesting. i have found, for what it's worth, that removing g_multi and modprobe g_ether seems to work Feb 13 22:26:06 it runs once, but then never again.... very strange... Feb 13 22:26:42 rcn-ee: same result unfortunately. on the BBB side i have an ip and usb0 is up, but on the PC side eth2 doesn't have an IP Feb 13 22:26:53 and i get random "wired connection disconnected" errors every minute or so Feb 13 22:28:24 may be worth it to just drop back down to 3.8 for now, as i only need 4 things: wifi, disabled hdmi, audio cape, and usb ip Feb 13 22:37:41 * veremit grumbles about his rtl8192 driver :/ Feb 13 22:38:24 what is wrong with that fine driver? Feb 13 22:41:11 lol Feb 13 22:41:39 doesn't work .. although whether the driver or hardware is at fault .. I daren't call .. Feb 13 22:42:29 i wanna shut down onboard LAN8710A in uboot? any idea? Feb 13 22:42:54 tholm: did you have a specific guide you followed to get audio cape working in 3.8? Feb 13 22:42:56 3.8.13 Feb 13 22:44:30 i'm running this ---> https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-Mainline Feb 13 22:45:23 tholm: what's your uname -a ? Feb 13 22:46:05 3.8.13-bone70 Feb 13 22:46:36 Linux 3.8.13-bone70 #39 Thu Feb 12 21:04:15 ART 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux Feb 13 22:46:51 ty. so this is one you built yourself right? Feb 13 22:46:59 yes Feb 13 23:17:41 tholm: so i'm on 3.8.13 -- vanilla image (from official beaglebone). cape shows up, alsa can see it... but i can't get it to play. do you have any tips? Feb 13 23:18:28 all i've done is install the dtbo and disabled hdmi audio Feb 13 23:21:47 aplay "something" doesnt work? Feb 13 23:22:17 blaine: ? Feb 13 23:22:26 tholm: no, it just like Feb 13 23:22:31 hangs there. even a single file, just hangs Feb 13 23:22:57 i had a combination earlier today that would show an operation not permitted error, but i can't track down what it was (something like speaker-test -n 1) Feb 13 23:23:08 -c 1 maybe Feb 13 23:23:55 aplay -l shows it: card 0: EVM [DA830 EVM], device 0: AIC3X tlv320aic3x-hifi-0 [] Feb 13 23:24:57 card 0: EVM [DA830 EVM], device 0: AIC3X tlv320aic3x-hifi-0 Feb 13 23:24:57 same here Feb 13 23:25:44 dmesg? Feb 13 23:25:58 nothing recent Feb 13 23:26:03 [ 68.520780] davinci_evm sound.14: tlv320aic3x-hifi <-> 48038000.mcasp mapping ok Feb 13 23:26:03 [ 68.547007] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Applied #4 overlays. Feb 13 23:26:15 and a few other, when i set up the cape Feb 13 23:29:32 do u have this cape http://elinux.org/CircuitCo:Audio_Cape_RevA, dont you? Feb 13 23:29:56 yessir Feb 13 23:31:08 I have a homemade audio cape revA, but it's the same Feb 13 23:31:21 that's cool Feb 13 23:31:39 i have had it working on an image someone else built (custom) but net USB was broken, which is really important for me Feb 13 23:32:04 lol @ net usb. Feb 13 23:32:09 -sigh- oh well. Feb 13 23:32:11 usb gadget Feb 13 23:32:32 yeah -- it isn't stable for me on the latest build Feb 13 23:32:35 * veremit hands out free routers and long cat6 cables Feb 13 23:32:43 heh Feb 13 23:33:05 it's a matter of headless wifi configuration Feb 13 23:33:10 if you're using usb, you must have another computer within 5m Feb 13 23:33:28 jkridner, think i got it... it was a read permission, in one of my qemu usually failes with this so stop.... Feb 13 23:33:32 veremit: this is true, but it doesn't fix the issue that i'd prefer having a working shell you know? Feb 13 23:33:49 working shells are good .. working wifi even better .. *mutters* Feb 13 23:33:59 i've got working wifi, but no way to configure it without a shell :) Feb 13 23:33:59 I should get my new wands going ... Feb 13 23:34:05 wps? Feb 13 23:34:19 wps? Feb 13 23:34:28 W Protected Setup Feb 13 23:34:38 its a button somewhere .. usually Feb 13 23:34:46 on the beaglebone? Feb 13 23:34:54 I just statically configure it over RJ45 Feb 13 23:35:06 i may have to do that, but it relies on the user knowing how to set that up Feb 13 23:35:09 not yet seen that fail .. although I've heard reports. Feb 13 23:35:15 blaine ... write a script Feb 13 23:35:29 usb gadget is MUCH more likelyl to fail Feb 13 23:35:32 heh. was hoping it would 'just work' with usb gadget Feb 13 23:35:39 veremit: so i come to understand. it's a very good point Feb 13 23:35:44 or just shove config files over serial Feb 13 23:36:01 yeah .. not ideal .. but works Feb 13 23:36:13 still relies on g_serial though Feb 13 23:36:17 not sure if that's more stable than g_multi Feb 13 23:36:31 its emulated .. or is it .. Feb 13 23:36:43 not sure how it works to be honest Feb 13 23:37:17 that said .. for all I dislike it .. I do recall an animatronic robot which relies on usb ethernet iirc. Feb 13 23:37:38 or perhaps it still uses a combination of rs485 and other bits and pieces Feb 13 23:37:45 it had a myriad of interfaces Feb 13 23:38:43 i wish there was a super easy way to set it up like chromecast Feb 13 23:38:50 auto connect or go into ad hoc for config Feb 13 23:39:08 "easy way" ==> some out of the box system util Feb 13 23:39:22 blaine, you just have to write the script and send us a patch. ;) Feb 13 23:39:45 rcn-ee: maybe next week ;) Feb 13 23:40:10 rcn-ee: do you know of any way to debug the audio cape? it hangs for me on aplay -- otherwise i'm kinda stuck Feb 13 23:40:19 this is on 3.8.13 Feb 13 23:40:34 alsa or pulse? Feb 13 23:40:42 oh .. erm.. aplay. Feb 13 23:40:45 i know at one point jkridner was looking for a "openwrt" type interface where you could easily configure eth/wifi/etc.. Feb 13 23:41:13 you need like a default 'open' config where you can connect to it, then configure from there Feb 13 23:41:22 that's one of the ways Feb 13 23:41:28 veremit: yeah -- ethernet or serial is sounding like the beset Feb 13 23:41:32 think that's how the YUN works Feb 13 23:41:34 blaine: if i send you my zimage and dtb? Feb 13 23:41:45 but that requires an app to run on the laptop, which i was hoping to avoid Feb 13 23:41:53 tholm: sure, that'd rock. it would at least help me test it Feb 13 23:42:16 ok wait Feb 13 23:42:32 tholm: maybe just the dtb would work Feb 13 23:42:40 although i can't image there are that many floating around Feb 13 23:43:07 yeah .. blaine .. like this .. http://arduino.cc/en/Guide/ArduinoYun#toc13 Feb 13 23:43:22 veremit: hey that's cool Feb 13 23:43:22 so it has a default config .. you wifi to it .. configure via web interface Feb 13 23:43:44 shouldn't be too hard to implement/borrow/fudge :) Feb 13 23:44:16 that's my next treat ... Feb 13 23:44:18 cool ty veremit that's a neat project Feb 13 23:44:25 it is :) Feb 13 23:45:23 personally .. I'm really waiting for the Arduino Tre though .. Feb 13 23:45:45 but the TI folks aren't through the beta yet .. wish I coulda got my hands on an early board .. rcn-ee .. you seen one? Feb 13 23:45:47 i guess i could just install dhcp daemon Feb 13 23:46:19 veremit, i was busy when the beta tre boards where being tested, so i never piped up. ;) Feb 13 23:46:30 d'oh .. they went quick I think Feb 14 00:19:15 one question Feb 14 00:20:02 To be, or not to be.. Feb 14 00:22:04 the command "sudo startx" indicates not found Feb 14 00:25:04 kdm gdm xdm lightdm. what are u using? Feb 14 00:26:34 xubuntu-desktop Feb 14 00:27:29 sbattazzo: what do you mean by "open to that address" ? I know you can definitely mmap prcm (though I haven't tried writing to it yet) Feb 14 00:28:06 andresing: try sudo service lightdm start Feb 14 00:28:12 (if it only allows privileged writes like the control module, which afaik isn't the case, then I may know a workaround) Feb 14 00:28:20 or sudo service xdm start Feb 14 00:30:16 does not appear to choose tholm1, unrecognized service Feb 14 00:31:11 lightdm ni xdm Feb 14 00:31:27 sudo apt-get install lightdm Feb 14 00:34:08 i am on it Feb 14 00:38:06 Hi wondering if is possible to install ipfire on BBB and whether is is useful device Feb 14 00:41:05 tholm1, i sense that the system has an error. to do df -h size 16gb and used 16gb !!!! i haven't space Feb 14 00:41:47 sudo apt-get clean Feb 14 00:42:21 this command erase 1gb Feb 14 00:43:07 insufficient space Feb 14 00:46:03 tholm1, i not understand as occupies so much space Feb 14 00:46:18 xubuntu-desktop installs a lot of stuff.... Feb 14 00:46:35 probably you installed too many packages Feb 14 00:46:59 u used 16gb!!! Feb 14 00:47:23 but are 16 gb Feb 14 00:48:10 are you sure it's actually 16gb... Feb 14 00:48:21 lsblk Feb 14 00:48:58 completely Feb 14 00:49:04 microsd 16gb Feb 14 00:49:27 and the partition? Feb 14 00:49:32 so... what does "lsblk" show... Feb 14 00:50:33 mmcblkop1 12m part - mmcblkop2 15g part Feb 14 00:50:52 okay Feb 14 00:51:23 well done andresing, u used 16g :) Feb 14 00:52:35 it's funny from: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/requirements/ xubuntu-desktop needs 6.1GB.... wonder what the other 9 got used by... Feb 14 00:53:15 (ignoring x86 vs arm sizes, as it's ball park anyways...) Feb 14 00:53:44 and not even so Feb 14 00:54:22 sbattazzo: I just enabled uart5 (aka uart6 in some old linux versions which still use that annoying 1-based numbering) from userspace via /dev/mem, no prob Feb 14 00:54:38 sounds like a broken record! Feb 14 00:54:46 so maybe andresing appreciates us squeezing lxde desktop into 2gb for the factory image. ;) Feb 14 00:55:38 it's amazing really show bloated stuff is Feb 14 00:56:08 and a lot of it you can cut, manpage, locales, etc.. but then people complain, when they are missing. ;) Feb 14 00:56:21 (when doing baremetal programming on SoCs like these I generally don't even bother initializing external RAM since my code + data fits comfortable in internal SRAM :P ) Feb 14 00:56:31 I'll try Feb 14 00:58:19 there are multitasking OSes (with IPv6 networking stack) that are smaller than my /bin/date :/ Feb 14 00:59:56 rcn-ee .. you got any pmic drivers in your deb image? Feb 14 01:00:29 veremit, most are enabled, are you looking for a certain one? Feb 14 01:00:49 griping with my a13 again :/ Feb 14 01:01:06 sodding wifi card vanished from usb .. but it doesn't seem to shut down properly Feb 14 01:01:38 I think maybe it's got pm integrated on that one? Feb 14 01:02:50 just d/l datasheet/manual for the first time .. Feb 14 01:03:13 he likes the schematic tight... https://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO/blob/master/HARDWARE/A13-OLinuXino/A13-OLinuXino_WIFI_Rev_F.pdf Feb 14 01:04:05 yeah its ridiculous Feb 14 01:04:10 heh, who needs whitespace anyway Feb 14 01:05:10 wifi 3.3. comes from the axp209... Feb 14 01:06:24 from the usb hub Feb 14 01:06:56 the module is a bought-in .. the schems for it are on the olimex site somewhere .. its about 5 components Feb 14 01:07:04 its an rtl8188 blob Feb 14 01:07:26 I thought it was a gma5xx ? or something like that Feb 14 01:07:33 * veremit digs out schematics once again Feb 14 01:08:14 it was realtek (no firmware required rtl8188)... olimex was on the no-blob bandwagon.. it sold a lot a10's for them.. Feb 14 01:09:19 rcn-ee : https://www.olimex.com/Products/USB-Modules/MOD-WIFI-RTL8188/resources/MOD-WiFi_RTL8188.pdf Feb 14 01:09:49 what I don't get (currently) is why its completely fallen off the usb even ! Feb 14 01:10:47 that's either usb hub/sw issue .. or that module is cheese Feb 14 01:11:37 I'm fairly certain you can't connect cheese to an USB port Feb 14 01:11:54 zmatt .. its on a pin header ;) Feb 14 01:11:55 lol Feb 14 01:12:31 I'm not gonna solder a U.FL onto it until I can get it to at least Pretend to work .. :/ Feb 14 01:13:02 even my android phone's wifi works better .. and that's Shit. Feb 14 01:13:08 usb really is a horrible bus :P Feb 14 01:13:20 zmatt .. its fine when it works .. Feb 14 01:13:42 * veremit mutters about am335x usb driver :p Feb 14 01:13:49 (host) this is Feb 14 01:13:49 I already knew this, but it was reaffirmed when I learned that the maximum rate of _useful_ date you can theoretically get over a 480 Mbps USB 2 bus is 280 Mbps, the rest is overhead Feb 14 01:13:56 *data Feb 14 01:14:28 zmatt .. yea its a bit disappointing .. I'm even more against the Pi having mux'd the usb with the LAn now :D Feb 14 01:14:41 makes usb3 a much better proposition Feb 14 01:14:49 even when it works it's often not "fine"... usb quite often needs to be micromanaged by the OS, taking up cpu cycles Feb 14 01:15:11 rcn-ee .. any pearls of wisdom yet?! :p Feb 14 01:15:32 the sucky thing about usb3 is you still need usb2 alongside for compat... other than that it's afaik a complete redesign Feb 14 01:15:52 rcn-ee : I can give you ssh to the board ;) lol Feb 14 01:16:47 think I'ma have to put a 'scope on it to see why it vanishes from the usb hub Feb 14 01:16:54 I wish Apple hadn't destroyed firewire by thinking it could charge license fees (they came to their senses, but by then companies had already jumped ship and usb2 had been summoned from the unholy pit of "we need an alternative no matter how crappy") Feb 14 01:17:18 firewire is so much nicer in design Feb 14 01:18:52 usb was designed for mice and keyboard, stupid simple low-bandwidth devices where it makes sense to keep the devices dumb and have the host do all the work, since it's not much work anyway Feb 14 01:19:19 usb2 otoh is a grievous mistake :/ Feb 14 01:19:28 betamax vs vhs Feb 14 01:19:51 its all about getting it out there Feb 14 01:20:06 firewire was out there, before usb2, that's the sad part Feb 14 01:20:18 yeah but you choke adoption with licensing Feb 14 01:20:39 by being greedy .. you shoot yasef in the foot .. royally. Feb 14 01:21:39 http://firewireexpert.blogspot.nl/2009/05/dollar-deal-that-almost-killed-firewire.html Feb 14 01:21:47 zmatt .. well once you get intel/microsoft/etc behind usb .. Feb 14 01:21:52 "All this took two months. Unfortunately, that was about one month too long for HP. HP went to Intel and said they wanted a new high speed serial bus. They didn’t care what it was as long as it was not FireWire." Feb 14 01:22:10 thus came usb2 to be Feb 14 01:22:46 sometimes its just better to leave apple to be apple Feb 14 01:22:52 lol, "Six months later, in an enormous IDF auditorium, Pat Gelsinger announced the start of USB 2.0. Echoing through the cavernous hall, exactly one person applauded." Feb 14 01:23:07 ouch Feb 14 01:23:33 yeah I think 3G cellular was much the same .. I remember some colleagues saying years before roll-out .. "this is gonna be crap" lol Feb 14 01:23:54 3.5 kinda saved the day Feb 14 01:24:08 or was it 2.5 .. but you get my drift Feb 14 01:24:41 3 is barely usable these days Feb 14 01:27:51 anyways .. back to this wretched wifi .. I need to evaluate whether I'm ever gonna make this thing work or its a dead loss :\ Feb 14 01:29:10 I think its going to boil down to how dirty I want to get my hands .. I'm not sure how confident I can be on usb debugging Feb 14 01:33:04 your pretty close.. ;) just got to figure out how to reset the wifif.. ;) Feb 14 01:34:40 rcn-ee .. yeah but which bit?! :p sw/hw/etc Feb 14 01:45:12 sbattazzo: anyhow, here's a working example, maybe it's of some use despite the eccentric style of C++ it's written in (requires g++ 4.9 to compile) -> http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/prcm-test.tar.xz Feb 14 01:47:05 sbattazzo: if you use vim, readability will increase if you do :syn keyword Statement let wait_while wait_until Feb 14 01:47:43 sbattazzo: (see include/defs.h and include/util/device.h for clarification of that) Feb 14 02:00:52 sbattazzo: and do be careful poking around in the prcm module, there are registers there which control internal voltage regulators :P **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 14 02:59:58 2015