**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 03 02:59:58 2015 Mar 03 03:00:21 Hey guys can anyone tell me why beaglebone loves(in my case) to Hard Block WiFi dongles? Mar 03 03:00:56 I thought it was a power supply issue but I am connected from my pc n adapter and it still is an issue Mar 03 03:01:19 you just access it via a serial port their is a very good terminal program for linux (looks) try minicom? https://alioth.debian.org/projects/minicom/ Mar 03 03:01:43 okay sweet Mar 03 03:01:50 I'll give minicom a shot Mar 03 03:01:53 thank you! Mar 03 03:02:45 your welcome but you need to hook up serial stuff and minicom should find them. I believe baud rate is 115.2k 8n1 Mar 03 03:03:20 gotcha, okay Mar 03 03:03:26 and thats an odd baud rate, but okay Mar 03 03:03:31 I'll give that a go Mar 03 03:03:55 115200 baud was the fastest the old PC would go? Mar 03 03:05:29 See here: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial Mar 03 03:05:32 Ive only used um, 9600 I belive Mar 03 03:05:57 ahhh, gotcha Mar 03 03:05:58 sweet Mar 03 03:06:57 It should work 9600 to 115200 with autobauding but the debug port I used that for my original 2 beagle boards Mar 03 03:07:32 I forget what the default login port setup was it's been a while :D I use to have a VT220 no I are one (smirk) Mar 03 03:08:14 Okay, ill try to figure it out.... What type of info will the debug port give me? Mar 03 03:10:24 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Terminal_Shells ? you may want to carefully read through this http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack Mar 03 03:10:40 sounds good, will do Mar 03 03:10:42 LOTS of links bit wordy but helpful Mar 03 03:10:50 Thank y ou again! =D Mar 03 03:11:16 Well you prolly have a lot of work to do. THE HDMI problem has usually to do with the cable some cables don't work apparently Mar 03 03:12:18 I'm just a little less ignorant than the average guy honestly. Mar 03 03:12:39 (goes back to working with KiCAD) Mar 03 03:12:42 Okay, I have another one on order... hopefully this new one will work. Mar 03 03:16:04 GenTooMan, this page mentions putty, but it's not quite good as for me Mar 03 03:16:20 maybe there's a page describing other terminal emulators? Mar 03 03:16:34 I have tried minicom and picocom Mar 03 03:17:14 the latter is quite good but it doesn't have an option to set stop bit thing, even though it's not needed form my uses Mar 03 03:18:23 I used minicom for years not sure GTK based terminal emulators. I ran minicom in rxvt actually. Mar 03 03:19:33 GenTooMan, try picocom Mar 03 03:19:40 it seems better Mar 03 03:19:58 it doesn't use pseudographics Mar 03 03:22:26 Well as I said minicom I'm familiar with. Hmmm seems like a big need for linux is a quality version of realterm Mar 03 03:23:14 http://realterm.sourceforge.net/ Mar 03 03:23:45 It's not a great program but it does work and is good for debugging serial devices over the network or using a serial port. Mar 03 03:23:54 GenTooMan, seems to be too complex Mar 03 03:24:10 minicom seems better Mar 03 03:24:11 Yes very complex didn't say it was great did I? :D Mar 03 03:24:30 Useful for specific types of jobs. Mar 03 03:24:47 Time to sleep me thinks Mar 03 03:25:12 there is also socat Mar 03 04:12:21 9 Mar 03 04:22:07 <_av500_> 10 Mar 03 04:23:37 "3 is the number to be counted..." Mar 03 07:20:17 hello Mar 03 07:21:08 i'm developed an android app Mar 03 07:21:24 related to beaglebone black Mar 03 07:21:54 but when i'm running the application Mar 03 07:22:23 the deviceiterator value should be null Mar 03 07:22:40 can anyone help me Mar 03 07:24:16 the what? Mar 03 07:24:19 how does that relate to the BBB? Mar 03 07:25:02 usb cable Mar 03 07:25:19 and my app should run on the bbb Mar 03 07:25:33 so the bbb runs android? Mar 03 07:25:49 yes Mar 03 07:25:58 ah, its the usual guy Mar 03 07:26:38 but a week hasnt passed! Mar 03 07:26:56 here i'm appending the code also Mar 03 07:27:14 public class MainActivity extends Activity { private static final String ACTION_USB_PERMISSION = "com.android.example.USB_PERMISSION"; PendingIntent mPermissionIntent; UsbDevice device; @Override protected void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) { super.onCreate(savedInstanceState); setContentView(R.layout.activity_main); UsbManager manager = (UsbManager) getSystemService(Context.USB_SERVICE); HashMa Mar 03 07:27:17 do NOT Mar 03 07:27:24 there is pastebin for that Mar 03 07:27:36 ? Mar 03 07:27:43 pastebin.com Mar 03 07:27:47 av500: beware, his fluxcompensator is uncalibrated in the BBB Mar 03 07:32:47 is the above code is correct Mar 03 07:35:04 there is no above code, just gibberish Mar 03 07:35:35 even if it was working, what would you do with it? Mar 03 07:38:58 i'm running it on bbb Mar 03 07:41:42 yes, we know all that Mar 03 07:57:49 really Mar 03 08:40:16 what c function i can use to direct an 8 bit output ti I2C ? Mar 03 09:06:55 ioctl Mar 03 10:20:08 Hello! Mar 03 10:20:42 I want go take part in Google Summer of code. Where should I propose a project to Beagle? Mar 03 10:28:22 vlad94 look at the gsoc website? Mar 03 10:28:32 vlad94 ask on the beagle-gsoc mailinglist? Mar 03 10:28:44 they ping timeouted Mar 03 10:29:00 Mikaela whom? Mar 03 10:29:37 2015-03-03 12:27:07+0200 <-- vlad94 (8d550062@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.85.0.98) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Mar 03 10:34:49 ah sorry Mar 03 10:34:50 okay Mar 03 10:58:21 BBB connection via usb cable Mar 03 10:59:24 always a good thin Mar 03 10:59:25 is that anyone have any idea Mar 03 10:59:26 g Mar 03 11:00:18 usb detection Mar 03 11:00:31 of the connected device Mar 03 11:01:02 speaking in whole Mar 03 11:01:14 sentences would Mar 03 11:01:24 really help here Mar 03 11:02:52 ogra_ I think its same guy that is asking every day Mar 03 11:03:18 a cronned bot ? :) Mar 03 11:03:36 yeah, he needs to face the fact, that he will never be able to calibrate the fluxcompensator on his BBB Mar 03 11:03:53 hello guys help me Mar 03 11:04:36 ogra_ no one which do not understand or accept our advises Mar 03 11:04:47 gm tbr Mar 03 11:04:51 like a bot ;) Mar 03 11:04:52 moo woglinde Mar 03 11:07:44 is that any one have a mentality to help me Mar 03 11:08:03 we all tried, you ignored our advice Mar 03 11:08:26 i dnt understand anything Mar 03 11:08:46 what is the fluxcompensator Mar 03 11:08:55 on BBB Mar 03 11:09:16 it's the part that makes ADK connections work Mar 03 11:09:28 k Mar 03 11:09:42 you can make them work without it too Mar 03 11:09:57 but for that you need to actually learn something Mar 03 11:10:08 ya Mar 03 11:10:14 asking for exact steps does not work Mar 03 11:10:15 i know that Mar 03 11:10:43 give me a tutorial or any other source Mar 03 11:10:52 to learn that part Mar 03 11:11:46 sounds like more of an adroid problem than a beagle problem Mar 03 11:11:58 all are gone Mar 03 11:12:10 all are gone Mar 03 11:12:13 bwarff_: he wants to do some sort of ADK thing, at least that's what he's been saying the last few days Mar 03 11:13:37 i wonder if android people might have more ermm, clues, for him. i only do linux on my beagles. Mar 03 11:14:11 my problem is when i'm connected the BBB to my phone Mar 03 11:14:57 the detection is not occuring in my app Mar 03 11:16:06 is that any solution for this Mar 03 11:16:22 all are gone Mar 03 11:16:29 what is dis? Mar 03 11:17:38 bwarff_: the device side of ADK you can run on traditional linux just fine AFAIU Mar 03 11:20:01 fair enough. Mar 03 11:51:49 tbr: Had any work related to this Mar 03 11:55:26 giya: you want to pay for this or what? Mar 03 11:57:13 don't misunderstand i just ask only Mar 03 11:57:33 tbr : don't misunderstand i just ask only Mar 03 12:04:24 I sure wish I could make the BBB use BTRFS instead of ext4 Mar 03 12:06:09 did btrfs get usable on SD cards ? Mar 03 12:06:25 (it used to crawl in the past) Mar 03 12:30:37 ogra_: it seems to work reasonably well on the jolla eMMC. I guess there is a pile of patches on top of their 3.4 hw adaptation franken-kernel though Mar 03 12:31:09 yeah, we are all cursed with 3.4 in the mobile business Mar 03 12:31:42 ogra_: you missed tim's presentation during ELCE in dus, right? Mar 03 12:31:47 i must admit i havent looked at BTRFS in a long time but back when i looked last even booting a cli system took munites Mar 03 12:31:55 it was painful to see the numbers :/ Mar 03 12:31:55 *minutes Mar 03 12:32:19 cityoflights2: all it should take is to compile it in and making sure that the kernel is _recent_ Mar 03 12:32:27 unless you want to go through backport hell Mar 03 12:32:34 yeah, i wasnt in DUS ... sadly i nearly always have to travel if there are any interesting summits :/ Mar 03 12:33:24 he showed numbers on patches in frankenkernels, apparently QC vendor kernels frequently diverge from vanilla by >1M patches Mar 03 12:33:57 ah, yeah ... and they are then also usually based on android, not mainline Mar 03 12:34:25 so you have vanilla+android+bsp patches Mar 03 12:34:32 on an old version Mar 03 12:34:36 plus odm plus this plus that Mar 03 12:34:51 yeah Mar 03 12:35:43 I wonder how much effort could be saved if fixes would make it upstream and soc vendor BSPs would keep up with that... Mar 03 12:36:05 it's not /that/ hard, but seems to be a management problem Mar 03 12:36:11 yep Mar 03 12:36:16 also a secrecy one Mar 03 12:36:36 they dont want to reveal hw info before the hw goes on sale Mar 03 12:37:13 so they have to work in their small corner anyway ... without peer reviews etc Mar 03 12:37:24 (at least none from upstream) Mar 03 12:39:52 that could also be dealt with by rebasing / tracking upstream Mar 03 12:40:13 the problem is they fork upstream because they don't understand how to do it properly Mar 03 12:40:54 also there is not that much secret sauce in architecture patches, but that's another management problem Mar 03 12:41:45 interesting enough intel seems to have grokd that years ago and usually cpu specific stuff is upstream before day 1 Mar 03 12:48:47 yeah Mar 03 12:51:25 so instead of spending the money once in one place the cost is shifted downward in the food-chain in the form of technical debt and cleanup cost to get a working product Mar 03 12:51:33 everybody loses Mar 03 12:51:45 buty hey, the silly-cone was 1ยข cheaper Mar 03 12:53:25 haha, yeah Mar 03 14:39:08 does anyone here uses connman Mar 03 14:39:27 I seem to have found a bug in network manager Mar 03 14:44:12 can any one tell me, which protocols are supported by beaglebone black ? Mar 03 14:47:02 morning here Mar 03 14:48:09 can you tell me, which an all protocols are supported by beaglebone black ? Mar 03 14:59:26 hi, i have an issue with trying to restore an image taken from another beaglebone black. Mar 03 15:01:34 I copied the eMMC by using the beaglebone black save emmc files. this works ok and i get the .img.gz file ok. but i followed the procedure to restore this and it doesnt work Mar 03 15:03:02 i have the ".img.gz" file on the SD card and it says to edit the autorun.ch file and i used the settings as shown on the beaglebone help page Mar 03 15:03:12 anyone able to help with this? Mar 03 15:27:37 Is the meta-beagleboard at https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard abandoned, or has it moved? Mar 03 15:30:06 gabrbedd, no one at bb.org is working on Angstrom anymore, if someone is interested in picking it up, we can certainly merge it in.. Mar 03 15:30:51 rcn-ee: you guys use... debian? Mar 03 15:31:21 gabrbedd, koen has updates here thou: https://github.com/koenkooi/meta-beagleboard/commits/master Mar 03 15:31:24 * gabrbedd tried Yocto/dizzy yesterday and USB didn't work on the BBB. Mar 03 15:31:35 rcn-ee: thanks! Mar 03 15:31:37 gabrbedd, i'm the one maintaining the debian rootfs. ;) Mar 03 15:34:06 rcn-ee: thanks! Mar 03 16:01:33 rcn-ee: I have 3.8.13-bone70.5 running, and the PPS module works. Thanks! Mar 03 16:02:14 ddrown, cool! glad to hear! Mar 03 16:03:45 System time : 0.000000011 seconds fast of NTP time Mar 03 16:03:45 Frequency : 0.154 ppm fast Mar 03 16:03:46 :) Mar 03 16:57:52 if anyone figures out which ADK stack works with what they should document it... Mar 03 17:01:14 Hey guys! I came here from the GSOC project idea list. Is there anyone here who can assist me? I would like to ask a few questions about a project listed for GSOC2015. :) Mar 03 17:02:13 aliam, switch to #beagle-gsoc (lots going on there.) ;) Mar 03 17:02:29 Thanks rcn-ee! :) Mar 03 17:16:47 Hello everybody! Mar 03 17:23:56 I was wondering if anyone has used bluetooth on their BBB? Mar 03 17:34:15 does anybody has idea of writing code in starterware ?? i have doubt in one of the macro definition..anybody ?? Mar 03 19:20:23 rcn-ee: RTC cape got trouble on ti 3.14 ;( pin already requested by P9_17_pinmux.19 Mar 03 19:39:13 Hey guys Mar 03 19:39:23 could I ask a question? Mar 03 19:40:47 Ok, I read the never ask to ask :p sorry Mar 03 19:41:27 ahaha Mar 03 19:42:33 Could anyone explain me how to see a file on my windows computer, that has been created on the beaglebone itself. I made a csv file with some measurements that I would like to read with Excel but I can't see it in Windows Mar 03 19:47:57 copy it to your windows box Mar 03 19:48:06 or use the http server on your BBB Mar 03 20:04:25 Catslab, we need a hint in the dts to ignore that pin.. Mar 03 20:05:40 I put &ocp { P9_17_pinmux { status = "disabled" }; }; Mar 03 20:05:48 and it's working fine Mar 03 20:13:20 thanks Catslab, just merged that change into the next snapshot.. Mar 03 20:16:48 rcn-ee: HDMI Audio is working on PandaBoard? --> 3.18.5-armv7-x2 release Mar 03 20:17:56 sorry tholm, haven't tried that in a long time... what does alsa-utils show? Mar 03 20:21:17 rcn-ee: I didn't test it but let me see if it works. Mar 03 20:21:54 for awhile, it was getting every attention every release on mainline.. Mar 03 20:22:53 ok. Mar 03 20:32:48 <_ssl> where can i find the changelogs of the debian images? the wikipage where you can download them isn't very helpful in that regard :( Mar 03 20:33:49 _ssl, depends, which two images are you comparing? Mar 03 20:34:29 <_ssl> newest (2015-03-01) with 2015-01-06 Mar 03 20:34:55 console/lxde/lxqt? Mar 03 20:35:04 <_ssl> console Mar 03 20:36:35 _ssl, it properly shuts down when you hit the power button, udev rule for the ttyO -> ttS change, updated kernel with fixes, newer u-boot with fixes.. Mar 03 20:37:35 Just watching the changelog is the best indication: https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder/commits/master Mar 03 20:38:32 then in your case, just watch out for: 'bb.org: console: xyz' commits.. Mar 03 20:40:06 <_ssl> cool, thank you! thats what i was looking for Mar 03 21:21:15 rcn-ee: I'm stupid, add P9_18_pinmux { status = "disabled" }; too for the rtc cape Mar 03 21:21:34 it needs the 2 pins :) Mar 03 21:21:57 not a problme. ;) Mar 03 21:25:06 Catslab, that's the i2c bus... can't belive i missed that.. Mar 03 21:25:59 rcn-ee: who's using it anayway ? :) Mar 03 21:26:23 that's the i2c-1 Mar 03 21:26:38 i was.... before i merged in charles pinmux-thingy.. Mar 03 21:26:56 ehehe Mar 03 21:27:17 got the pruss working without remoteproc on ti 3.14 Mar 03 21:27:25 had to patch a few things :) Mar 03 21:28:02 also had to disable a few pins from pinmux to free them for the pru Mar 03 21:28:05 awesome! can't wait to see your changes, i know a lot of user would be interested.. Mar 03 21:28:30 remoteproc looks like too complicated for me Mar 03 21:30:17 I'll extract a diff from the Kernel git Mar 03 21:48:46 rcn-ee I see you added kernel 4.0 ? Mar 03 21:48:57 what is waiting for us? Mar 03 21:49:23 I now stopped using networkmanager and chnaged to connmn Mar 03 21:49:41 Hello, do you know where I can buy BeagleBone xM with matching LCD extension ? Liquiware shop is not working and I cant contact them. Mar 03 21:49:51 I think we can add some more info in the wiki, to support common config chores Mar 03 21:50:30 On my BeagleBone Black, I'm trying to compile and run code that uses the PRU; I have done modprobe uio_pruss, the code does prussdrv_init() and then prussdrv_open(PRU_EVTOUT_0) fails with -1. The tutorials on the web suggest that others don't have this issue. Am I doing something wrong? Mar 03 21:52:41 Hi, I am interested working further on the previous project: Android Based remote display. I wanted to talk to the possible mentors related to this project. Thanks. Mar 03 21:53:28 errno is set to "no such file or directory". Mar 03 21:54:39 strace shows that it is looking for /sys/class/uio/uio0/maps/map0/addr, but my /sys/class/uio is empty. Mar 03 22:01:13 shevek: does you main programm in c calls the right compiled pruss program ? Mar 03 22:01:39 It does. I just found on the web that I need to enable it in the device tree as well. Mar 03 22:01:48 if you have nothing in /sys/class/uio, your pru need to be initialized Mar 03 22:01:52 yes Mar 03 22:01:57 It doesn't even get to the stage to load the pru program. Mar 03 22:02:08 which kernel version ? Mar 03 22:03:02 3.8.13-bone50 Mar 03 22:03:17 ok with capemanager Mar 03 22:03:26 I see 4 BB-BONE-PRU files in /lib/firmware Mar 03 22:03:32 I suppose I need one of those? Mar 03 22:04:23 you need to insert is in the capemanager Mar 03 22:04:30 but don't know exactly which one Mar 03 22:04:36 I'm not using capemanager Mar 03 22:04:41 I can just try one. :-) Mar 03 22:05:23 have a look at this page: http://hipstercircuits.com/beaglebone-black-gpio-mux-for-pru-with-device-tree-overlay/ Mar 03 22:07:58 It doesn't crash anymore, that's a good start! :-) Mar 03 22:08:14 yep :) Mar 03 22:09:25 It seemed to me that the PRU can change the state of any GPIO pin when going through the main memory bus, is that correct? I first thought it could only control it's "own" pins, but those are just faster and easier to reach? Mar 03 22:10:50 pru can access gpio pins yes, and has some "prefered pins" that can be directly accessed through r30 and r31 Mar 03 22:11:17 Ok, then I understood it correctly. That's great. :-) Mar 03 22:11:21 yes Mar 03 22:11:38 if you need fast toggle on pins use direct access Mar 03 22:11:52 but with LCD or hdmi, the number is limited Mar 03 22:12:07 I don't. I need accurate timing and many pins for controlling multiple stepper motors. Mar 03 22:12:31 And I prefer to keep the hdmi indeed. Mar 03 22:14:38 you've got to check the pins available Mar 03 22:15:24 I did. With only the r30/r31 pins, I don't have enough unless I use hdmi pins. But with all gpio, I have much more than I need. Mar 03 22:15:50 yes, you can use both, but gpio access induces a lag Mar 03 22:16:30 What order of magnitude is that? Mar 03 22:16:51 on top of my head close to ms Mar 03 22:17:09 Oh, that's pretty significant. Is it constant, or variable? Mar 03 22:17:21 variable Mar 03 22:17:43 Hmm, that's not so good. Then perhaps I will disable the hdmi. I'll look into that, thanks for mentioning it. Mar 03 22:18:31 np, I ran into trouble trying to use gpio pins so went to direct pru pins, I need only 6 so it's ok with a 16 bits lcd Mar 03 22:20:45 Do you know if abusing the pru serial port by setting and clearing the break condition (to use tx as a regular output) has any delays? Mar 03 22:21:51 mmm the uart1.tx can only be used as an input on pru Mar 03 22:22:11 on pru0, uart1.rx is also input only on pru1 Mar 03 22:22:20 No, I don't mean the uart of the core, but the uart of the pru itself. Mar 03 22:22:50 Some pins are connected to that uart, and not to any r30/r31 pins. Mar 03 22:23:15 ah sorry, so don't know at all, never used that Mar 03 22:23:44 Most people probably haven't and I'm guessing that's good for their sanity. :-P Mar 03 22:24:23 well you can try :) Mar 03 22:24:29 Yes, I think I will. :-) Mar 03 22:24:35 I had headhaches with pru :) Mar 03 22:25:03 Oh, and there's this gpio with a clock on it, I think it's 3-21; the datasheet says the clock can be disabled, but I can't find anywhere how to do that. Mar 03 22:25:24 also, I found that intel is now behind this wysiwidi which should soon offer us miracast Mar 03 22:25:43 I will try this with the ath-9k this weekend Mar 03 22:25:50 sound promising Mar 03 22:25:51 Then again, that breaks hdmi as well I think... If I'm not using that, I don't need that pin anyway. Mar 03 22:29:45 shevek: you can disable in devicetree/capemanager I guess Mar 03 22:30:10 Ah, ok. Mar 03 22:30:22 ok I'm off to home Mar 03 22:30:28 good evening Mar 03 22:30:32 Thanks, bye! Mar 03 23:24:13 how can i output a file to the SPI port ? using C Mar 03 23:30:28 whats the maximum digital IO speed of beaglebone Mar 03 23:31:05 It depends if a peripheral is available to drive it. For SPI 48mhz is the fixed max clock for example. Mar 03 23:33:45 yeah.. i was asking about SPI only. thanks @GenTooMan Mar 03 23:35:52 Well you probably should read the data sheet on it carefully. I don't know if you can use an alternate clock with it for different clock rates. I believe it divides down the usb base clock. Mar 04 01:39:33 Any replicape users? I'm wondering how it stacks up against Marlin/RAMBo. Mar 04 01:49:00 tamarin: I believe jkridner has been working withthe SeeMeCNC guys to get better support and stuff going there. Mar 04 01:49:32 Oh, yea, their little deltas are neat. Mar 04 01:50:01 Not that little, but yes., Mar 04 01:50:09 ... not that little. :) Mar 04 01:53:20 I wanted to buy a replicape, but missed the chance this time. A RAMBo was a drop-in upgrade for an existing printer. I still want to use the replicape and get involved in LinuxCNC. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 04 02:59:58 2015