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Mar 18 03:14:25 <nasamuffin> hi all.. anyone with experience using mmap to talk to the gpio controllers? i don't seem to be getting correct behavior, i can read the version info but most of the other registers all show up zeroes..
Mar 18 03:18:12 <nasamuffin> i dumped the memory i could see in the GPIO0 control registers, this doesn't match up with the reset values though, and i'm unable to set pins high via the set register, too.. https://gist.github.com/nasamuffin/fd6687861851f7f2dbcf
Mar 18 03:35:42 <johnpaul> Is there a good reference on how to process UART information? I can receive it and see it fine from ttyO4 (via cat or screen /dev/ttyO4 9600), but I am not that familiar with serial programming. Just looking for a pointer in the right direction.
Mar 18 03:36:46 <veremit> johnpaul .. you probably want to code a ring-buffer and check using strcmp or similar for your desired match string
Mar 18 03:39:24 <johnpaul> Ah interesting, that looks like it may help. I will look into that. Working with embedded linux is challenging, but fun haha. Thanks!
Mar 18 03:42:17 <johnpaul> veremit .. in your opinion, would this be a better approach than termios or libserial?
Mar 18 03:43:05 <veremit> not used either of those
Mar 18 03:44:46 <johnpaul> Okay. I am using an ID20 RFID reader, so just looking for what is recommended
Mar 18 03:44:51 <johnpaul> Thanks again, really appreciate it!
Mar 18 03:45:09 <veremit> np
Mar 18 03:50:12 <Chris______> Any news on the beagleboard-x15?
Mar 18 03:50:20 <Chris______> When will it be available?
Mar 18 05:43:33 <TurboBob> zmatt: you around?
Mar 18 05:44:45 <TurboBob> zmatt: was looking thru your example,  but not having the touchscreen was a show stopper.  the TSC driver and ADC driver seemed very intertwined,
Mar 18 05:46:06 <TurboBob> so,  the solution had to be just filtering the cruddy data I was getting.  its good enough now to go with
Mar 18 06:02:14 <ds2> they ahve to be
Mar 18 06:02:19 <ds2> same hw
Mar 18 08:59:49 <limbonic> did anyone have used snappy ubuntu core in a beaglebone black? I have some problems trying to make an application to flash an LED
Mar 18 09:00:30 <Mikaela> isn't that Raspberry Pi 2-only?
Mar 18 09:02:17 <tbr> Mikaela: that's what canonical + pi-foundation pr wants you to believe
Mar 18 09:02:29 <Mikaela> I see
Mar 18 09:03:01 <limbonic> it works better in beaglebone black
Mar 18 09:03:05 <limbonic> than raspberry pi
Mar 18 09:03:31 <tbr> it's even explicitly listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/things
Mar 18 09:04:13 <limbonic> my problem is that I dont know how to successfully add a library to my application
Mar 18 09:06:51 <woglinde> limbonic ?
Mar 18 09:08:06 <limbonic> yes woglinde
Mar 18 09:08:24 <woglinde> -> < limbonic> my problem is that I dont know how to successfully add a library to my application
Mar 18 09:08:29 <woglinde> what application?
Mar 18 09:10:40 <limbonic> i try to write an application to blink an LED using python
Mar 18 09:10:53 <limbonic> i need to use: Adafruit_BBIO
Mar 18 09:11:09 <limbonic> i have install successfully this library in my ubuntu desktop
Mar 18 09:11:34 <limbonic> but i am not sure how to include this library in my app when I am building it
Mar 18 09:12:09 <limbonic> so snappy can run the code
Mar 18 09:14:30 <limbonic> this is my python code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10619776/
Mar 18 09:18:35 <tbr> limbonic: I guess that's more of a ubuntu question
Mar 18 09:18:57 <tbr> ogra just timed out, he would have probably known the right channel for this
Mar 18 09:19:20 <ogra_> well, there is #snappy :)
Mar 18 09:19:53 <Mikaela> I was going to suggest that too
Mar 18 09:19:53 <Mikaela> 2015-03-18 11:19:11+0200 -- alis: #snappy                                             78 :Our 4 Forces: Snappy for Things: http://www.ubuntu.com/things || Snappy for Cloud: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy || Snappy for App Devs and Porters: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/ || Snappy for Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu :P
Mar 18 09:21:18 <ogra_> limbonic, but for your question ... essentially you have to add your lib to the snap
Mar 18 09:21:26 <Mikaela> ogra_: by the way, you might want to use https://freenode.net/sasl and it looks like your nick is expired if you use ogra and anyone can go to #freenode and ask it to be dropped
Mar 18 09:21:39 <ogra_> oops
Mar 18 09:21:48 <woglinde> hehe
Mar 18 09:21:53 <limbonic> I ask there also yesterday but they didn't help, then I thought maybe someone here has already use snappy in his beaglebone, I will ask also today in #snappy and hopefully someone will know :)
Mar 18 09:22:26 <limbonic> thank you all :)
Mar 18 09:22:28 <ogra_> limbonic, i have snappy running on ~10 different boards ... one is the beagle
Mar 18 09:22:29 <Mikaela> to prevent that, just /msg nickserv identify ogra password
Mar 18 09:22:47 <limbonic> ogra_,  do you know how to add  library to the snap?
Mar 18 09:23:37 <ogra_> limbonic, https://ograblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/21/meet-node-snapper-a-helper-to-easily-create-snap-packages-of-your-node-js-projects/ thi sis how i add a binary to a snap :) take a look at the node-snapper script
Mar 18 09:24:18 <ogra_> (you will need to modify it for your use case)
Mar 18 09:24:22 <limbonic> you are a genius!
Mar 18 09:24:25 <limbonic> thank you
Mar 18 09:24:44 <woglinde> o.O
Mar 18 09:24:54 <limbonic> :)
Mar 18 09:26:38 <ogra_> :)
Mar 18 09:27:12 <woglinde> hm looks not diffrent to docker ;)
Mar 18 09:27:38 <woglinde> besides you do not have to fiddle with chroots
Mar 18 09:27:45 <ogra_> http://www.piware.de/2015/01/snappy-package-for-robot-operating-system-tutorial/ is also a good read if you want to know how to produce rather complex snaps
Mar 18 09:29:00 <av500> schnaps?
Mar 18 09:29:39 <limbonic> thank you ogra_  for the links
Mar 18 09:30:00 <limbonic> woglinde,  i am not sure id docker works for beaglebone
Mar 18 09:30:03 <limbonic> if*
Mar 18 09:30:06 <ogra_> av500, prost :)
Mar 18 09:30:42 <tbr> av500: the game is: every time someone mentions the pi as a good embedded board: you drink
Mar 18 09:30:52 <tbr> in related news, sorry for the loss of your liver
Mar 18 09:31:19 <woglinde> ogra hm whould deboostrap works too?
Mar 18 09:31:35 <woglinde> orga and would n't that minimize the snap a bit oo?
Mar 18 09:31:41 <ogra_> woglinde, on the console it would
Mar 18 09:32:22 <ogra_> you would have to unpack the deb manually somehow though ... and the system is readonly ... but theoretically deboostrap would work, yes
Mar 18 09:35:41 <woglinde> why do I have to unpack them manually?
Mar 18 09:35:47 <woglinde> apt-get would work
Mar 18 09:40:59 <thunder_kk> what are steps to build an custo ubuntu image for beaglebone black?? please help
Mar 18 09:48:14 <ogra_> woglinde, no apt get ...
Mar 18 09:48:22 <ogra_> snappy is a new world
Mar 18 09:49:56 <thunder_kk> @ogra how to use it? i read abt that but didn't get an idea
Mar 18 09:50:12 <ogra_> you use snap packages instead
Mar 18 09:50:27 <ogra_> which are more like complete project bundles and less then packages
Mar 18 09:50:35 <ogra_> *than
Mar 18 09:51:59 <woglinde> ogra_ *sigh* for building the snappy
Mar 18 09:52:14 <woglinde> or snap
Mar 18 09:52:50 <ogra_> such a snap runs in a very restricted environment by default (only access to two writable dirs, very limited access to the rest of the system, all IPC and system access runs though frameworks which teh admin controls )
Mar 18 09:53:22 <woglinde> *sigh* I know the concepts
Mar 18 09:53:31 <woglinde> I talked about your build-script
Mar 18 09:53:42 <woglinde> the snap comes not automagicly out of the air
Mar 18 09:53:51 <ogra_> no :)
Mar 18 09:54:51 <woglinde> debootstrap + custom_script/commands -> base system_with_application -> snap
Mar 18 09:56:53 <ogra_> right, thats only an interim solution
Mar 18 09:57:23 <ogra_> and no, no base system ...
Mar 18 09:57:26 <thunder_kk> @ogra i am sorry but i am still not able to get you people
Mar 18 09:57:40 <ogra_> the resultin tarball only containse the lib and usr/bin dirs
Mar 18 09:58:06 <Parduz> hello. Having a BBB with Debian+LXDE, how can i autologin in the desktop as user "Debian" but with SU rights? I need to edit/copy/move files but i don't have permission
Mar 18 09:58:15 <ogra_> of the nodejs bits ... not anything of the base system that was used around it to obtain the nodejs bits
Mar 18 09:58:17 <woglinde> ogra_ ah okay
Mar 18 09:58:50 <woglinde> Parduz use sudo
Mar 18 09:59:18 <ogra_> but there will be a standardized way to just define debs your snap should use (at build time though), this is all interim stuff to get things oin
Mar 18 09:59:30 <ogra_> *going
Mar 18 09:59:37 <woglinde> okay
Mar 18 09:59:53 <woglinde> so the snap uses libs from the target system?
Mar 18 09:59:56 <Parduz> from the terminal? i do but i have SU rights only in the terminal. I'd like to use the desktop apps as SU.
Mar 18 10:00:05 <ogra_> only libc :)
Mar 18 10:00:14 <ogra_> everything else has to come with the snap currently
Mar 18 10:00:22 <woglinde> hm okay
Mar 18 10:00:31 <ogra_> there will be framework snaps that you can depend on
Mar 18 10:01:09 <woglinde> enough offtopic
Mar 18 10:01:14 <ogra_> yeah
Mar 18 10:01:32 <ogra_> go to #snappy for questions :)
Mar 18 10:01:46 <woglinde> I have no more
Mar 18 10:02:13 <thunder_kk> @ogra or @woglinde please please somebody explain me steps to build emmc flasher image of ubuntu for BBB
Mar 18 10:02:35 <woglinde> thunder_kk just use the scripts from rcn
Mar 18 10:02:40 <ogra_> i guess you would have to to ake rcn-ee's script
Mar 18 10:02:44 <ogra_> *take
Mar 18 10:03:02 <thunder_kk> LINK please
Mar 18 10:03:15 <woglinde> https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder
Mar 18 10:03:46 <thunder_kk> will this build emmc flasher image for BBB?
Mar 18 10:04:02 <woglinde> how about reading the README
Mar 18 10:04:07 <woglinde> and coming back
Mar 18 10:04:37 <thunder_kk> ohh okay thank you very much @woglinde and @ogra_
Mar 18 10:04:56 <ogra_> :)
Mar 18 10:05:14 <Parduz> sorry woglinde, could you answer me? :)
Mar 18 10:06:13 <woglinde> Parduz sorry I do not use desktop-apps with root permissions
Mar 18 10:06:18 <woglinde> I am faster with the console
Mar 18 10:06:55 <Parduz> sigh .... wish i have a keyboard handy
Mar 18 10:07:06 <thunder_kk> okay i came back with another :) where are options for making image with custom kernel ?
Mar 18 10:07:06 <woglinde> ?
Mar 18 10:07:20 <woglinde> thunder_kk edit the script?
Mar 18 10:07:29 <woglinde> so it uses your kernel build?
Mar 18 10:09:31 <thunder_kk> @woglinde exactly in which script?
Mar 18 10:12:22 <woglinde> *sigh*
Mar 18 10:12:30 <woglinde> I can not do you your work
Mar 18 10:12:37 <woglinde> I and I will not
Mar 18 10:12:45 <woglinde> ask your supervisor for another task
Mar 18 10:13:42 <thunder_kk> thankyou
Mar 18 10:14:26 <Parduz> New question: any idea about how to install ObTheme on the B
Mar 18 10:14:29 <Parduz> BB?
Mar 18 10:14:32 <Parduz> http://xyne.archlinux.ca/projects/obtheme/
Mar 18 10:17:03 <woglinde> Parduz isn't that a distribution question?
Mar 18 10:18:22 <KotH> Parduz is a distribution ;)
Mar 18 10:18:28 <Parduz> I don't know. I'm a windows developer that needs to write a program for the BBB: i'm still not sure what is distro-related and what is BBB tailored
Mar 18 10:19:03 <KotH> Parduz: uhh... hint: get "linux for dummies" and read it
Mar 18 10:19:16 <KotH> Parduz: you will need quite a bit of linux basics to develop anything on the bbb
Mar 18 10:19:33 <KotH> Parduz: but installation is usually a distro specific thing
Mar 18 10:19:40 <KotH> Parduz: unless you compile yourself
Mar 18 10:19:52 <KotH> Parduz: then it's a build environment specific question ;)
Mar 18 10:20:38 <woglinde> and of course installing fancy graphic themes
Mar 18 10:20:56 <Parduz> my starting program already runs (wxwidgets app). I was just trying to alter the theme so i could change the look of my app (a kiosk) without hardcoding the colors
Mar 18 10:22:28 <Parduz> but user permission and Parduz ignorance are against me. I was trying to edit the theme file but i can't save it.... and i just have a mouse a virtual keyboard where i am right now. That's why the questions
Mar 18 10:22:53 <woglinde> you cannot ssh into the bbb?
Mar 18 10:23:10 <KotH> Parduz: if you are running a kiosk app, then you dont want a wm at all
Mar 18 10:23:28 <KotH> Parduz: make your application run fullscreen without window decorations
Mar 18 10:23:33 <woglinde> Parduz did you tell your supervisor/team that you are not familiar with linux?
Mar 18 10:23:34 <Parduz> not where i am right now (testin the app on an automation machinery in the middle of a big factory)ù
Mar 18 10:23:40 <KotH> Parduz: potentially, set it as main xclient
Mar 18 10:24:15 <woglinde> and wx was the poorest choice for multip-os widget system
Mar 18 10:24:52 <Parduz> woglinde: yes. I am the one designated to become the linux man
Mar 18 10:25:12 <Parduz> i'm courious why is the poorest
Mar 18 10:25:48 <Parduz> and, KotH, i dont' get what you mean with "you dont want a wm at all", sorry... could you explain?
Mar 18 10:26:11 <KotH> woglinde: there are worse: xlib ;-)
Mar 18 10:26:23 <KotH> Parduz: wm = window manager, in your case probably openbox
Mar 18 10:26:42 <Parduz> ok, ok. yes, it is openbox
Mar 18 10:26:56 <woglinde> KotH only for unix/linux
Mar 18 10:27:14 <woglinde> hm okay with cygwin for windows too
Mar 18 10:27:24 <woglinde> or VxCsrc
Mar 18 10:27:45 <KotH> Parduz: x (the unix graphical interface system that talks to the graphics card) needs a client upon startup that is supposed to handle windows and such. for a kiosk system, you dont want more than one window anyways. just your application. ie you can do without a window manager and just launch your app as main client
Mar 18 10:28:19 <KotH> Parduz: lots of this stuff is basic unix knowledge, you should really get that as soon as possible
Mar 18 10:28:28 <KotH> Parduz: the linux for dummies explains quite a bit of what you need
Mar 18 10:28:36 <KotH> Parduz: not everything though
Mar 18 10:29:35 <Parduz> Thanks KotH. I know you're right, but for a lot of reason i need to make something to SHOW the customer we're on the road.
Mar 18 10:30:04 <Parduz> Once his thirst will be satisfied, i'll go back to learning the stuffs one after another :)
Mar 18 10:30:05 <KotH> Parduz: i know how that is... i've done my fair share of "i have no clue what i'm doing, but this seems to work" type of hacks
Mar 18 10:31:01 <KotH> and for exactly the same reason as well
Mar 18 10:32:07 <Parduz> well, i have to go to the machine again.
Mar 18 10:32:12 <KotH> have fun
Mar 18 10:32:41 <Parduz> I'll leave this window open, in the remote case that you'll like to answer my OT questions anyway :D
Mar 18 10:32:44 <Parduz> thanks guys
Mar 18 11:00:34 <BBB> Hello
Mar 18 11:00:49 <BBB> Please make a quadcore BBB with 1GByte of ram.
Mar 18 11:01:01 <BBB> Or more ;-)
Mar 18 11:01:37 <BBB> I use BBB as graphical user interface with a 7 inch display.
Mar 18 11:01:59 <BBB> I program it in Java. Including Java Swing and other GUIs.
Mar 18 11:02:32 <BBB> I can run normal Java programs, wich normally run on PC, with no change on BBB.
Mar 18 11:03:07 <BBB> Is anyone of the BBB company here?
Mar 18 11:03:47 <BBB> Using ser2net on BBB I can connect my serial port.
Mar 18 11:04:17 <BBB> I'm so happy with BBB. But I wish to have more ram and processig power.
Mar 18 11:04:55 <BBB> I don't like raspberry PI.
Mar 18 11:05:11 <BBB> Noone here?
Mar 18 11:05:35 <woglinde> nope
Mar 18 11:06:24 <woglinde> bbb was not made for desktop programs in the first case
Mar 18 11:06:49 <woglinde> use a tegra k1 when you need more power out of java
Mar 18 11:08:57 <BBB> Can I solder the tegra k1 to the BBB?
Mar 18 11:09:05 <woglinde> ?
Mar 18 11:40:12 <av500> BBB: how good are your soldering skillz?
Mar 18 12:32:31 <Om> Hi everyone. We are working on a project which requires the beaglebone to be connected to two wifi networks. We have the following two approaches but couldn't find which one could be feasible.
Mar 18 12:32:40 <Om> 1)One way could be connecting to one wifi network using a cape and connecting another using an adapter to the USB port. If this is possible in beaglebone black could anyone please suggest a wifi cape that can be supported by a beaglebone black.
Mar 18 12:32:51 <Om> 2)Another way is to use two wifi adapters via a USB hub. But given that we are using a USB hub, both the adapters will have to use the common bus in order to connect to the BBBK. does the beaglebone black support this kind of connectivity?
Mar 18 13:41:29 * jkridner discovers http://git.ti.com/pru-software-support-package
Mar 18 13:51:26 <woglinde> jkridner uhm no Makfiles for building
Mar 18 13:52:30 <av500> the days of make are over
Mar 18 13:54:07 <woglinde> av500 lol
Mar 18 13:54:25 <woglinde> anyway it has not sane build framework at all
Mar 18 13:54:36 <woglinde> besides the examples are eclipse projects
Mar 18 13:54:56 <av500> CCS I guess
Mar 18 13:54:57 <jkridner> woglinde: sure, Sitara apps doesn't usually do sane build systems.
Mar 18 13:55:05 <woglinde> av500 CCS is eclipse
Mar 18 13:55:05 <jkridner> yes, CCS is built on Eclipse.
Mar 18 13:55:21 * jkridner made a Makefile to build StarterWare library https://gist.github.com/jadonk/a6432fde48408e72fdd7
Mar 18 13:55:26 <cdbachmann> woglinde for my work with pruss_remoteproc, I used the makefile in labs/lab_4/solution/button_led_0/Debug
Mar 18 13:55:32 * av500 looks for his CCS 2.x CD
Mar 18 13:55:35 <woglinde> jkridner time to to change company culture
Mar 18 13:55:41 <jkridner> wouldn't be hard to do the same thing.
Mar 18 13:55:55 <woglinde> and explain these devs that the buildsystem is the most usefull thing
Mar 18 13:56:05 <jkridner> yeah, I'm planning some new training sessions.
Mar 18 13:56:16 <jkridner> been a while since I've done one
Mar 18 13:56:20 <woglinde> hehe
Mar 18 13:56:42 <woglinde> cdbachmann okay I quick scanned only some directories
Mar 18 13:57:02 <jkridner> main effort of the training session will be to introduce Debian as a proxy of general GNU practices, despite a lack of support for it.
Mar 18 13:57:33 <jkridner> (not that Debian practices and GNU practices are so tied together, but they have some useful overlap and Debian practices are generally easier to understand IMO)
Mar 18 13:58:10 <jkridner> and only a small subset would ever be adopted anyway.
Mar 18 13:58:24 <woglinde> jkridner can CSS import Makefile projects?
Mar 18 13:58:36 <woglinde> ups CCS
Mar 18 13:59:02 <jkridner> yeah, I think so, but I'd never trust it.
Mar 18 13:59:22 <jkridner> data vs. procedural stuff never converts well.
Mar 18 13:59:55 <jkridner> project files ---> Makefile might be sane, though not very readable.
Mar 18 14:00:04 * jkridner would never trust Makefile ---> project files.
Mar 18 14:01:01 <woglinde> for me it worked good in eclipse
Mar 18 14:01:10 <woglinde> even with the autotools plugin
Mar 18 14:01:24 <woglinde> cmake would be good to
Mar 18 14:01:38 <woglinde> and works too on windows
Mar 18 14:02:35 <cdbachmann> I suppose for those interested, I should mention that I managed to use lab4 to combine with mranostay's ws28xx project which although it loses the up/downcall, uses the virtio_id_rproc_serial driver for communication
Mar 18 14:27:17 <cdbachmann> I then took the lab4/ws28xx project and swapped the beaglelogic pru1 code to allow for data collection over the virtio serial console.
Mar 18 14:36:17 <abferm> Has anyone experienced random reboots lately? Anyone have a fix? I never seem to be able to get even a day of uptime.
Mar 18 14:38:29 <tbr> abferm: things seem to have settled on "clean the battery contacts"
Mar 18 14:38:50 <tbr> both sides, carefully, without too much force so that things don't break
Mar 18 14:41:36 <abferm> tbr: I'm not using a battery... I have a reliable source of power and nothing that I could think of that would be causing a spike in draw that it couldn't handle.
Mar 18 14:41:53 <tbr> oh, sorry, wrong channel :D
Mar 18 14:42:10 <tbr> it sounded too much like a familiar issue on different hardware
Mar 18 14:43:10 <tbr> abferm:  14:43:50 up 67 days,  6:45,  1 user,  load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.05
Mar 18 14:43:29 <tbr> and that's just because I tripped over the power cable...
Mar 18 14:53:00 <abferm> tbr: That is odd, which kernel and and OS image are you using? A while back I remember seeing a couple others on here with the same problem, and I wonder if that is part of the issue.
Mar 18 14:54:39 <abferm> And it isn't a clean reboot, it is like the reset button is pushed.
Mar 18 14:54:53 <woglinde> abferm do you use usb devices?
Mar 18 14:56:54 <abferm> Yeah, I have a usb cellular modem.
Mar 18 14:57:50 <woglinde> hehe thats it
Mar 18 14:57:54 <woglinde> musb goes beserk
Mar 18 14:58:01 <woglinde> and watchdog resets the board
Mar 18 14:58:04 <woglinde> sorry
Mar 18 14:58:17 <woglinde> you have to live with it
Mar 18 14:58:31 <abferm> I doubt hardware is the issue though, as this setup does run for hours usually before I have any sort of problem.
Mar 18 14:58:45 <woglinde> musb breaks unpredictible
Mar 18 14:58:56 <woglinde> sometimes hours
Mar 18 14:59:02 <woglinde> sometimes a couple of days
Mar 18 14:59:16 <abferm> gah, I hate musb, this isn't the first time Ive had problems with it
Mar 18 14:59:16 <woglinde> but last not a week long
Mar 18 14:59:39 <woglinde> ;(
Mar 18 14:59:43 <woglinde> jepp
Mar 18 15:00:27 <abferm> First vbus issues, now watchdogs running out, are you sure there isn't a fix?
Mar 18 15:00:52 <woglinde> I am sure
Mar 18 15:01:16 <woglinde> latest upstream seems to have some fixes
Mar 18 15:01:38 <woglinde> but not for long time issues
Mar 18 15:02:04 <woglinde> but for 3.8 and 3.14 no chance
Mar 18 15:02:06 <woglinde> sorry
Mar 18 15:02:14 <abferm> fun.... Why doesn't it just restart musb instead of the entire system? That seems to work just fine for vbus errors.
Mar 18 15:02:47 <abferm> I am running upstream...
Mar 18 15:03:32 <abferm> 3.19.0-armv7-1
Mar 18 15:04:03 <rcn-ee> abferm, that kernel is not optimzed for the am335x, use the "bone" variaent...
Mar 18 15:04:28 <woglinde> abferm oh good to know that musb on 3.19 is still broken
Mar 18 15:04:41 <tbr> abferm: also make sure that the board and modem get enough power. the power spikes caused by pulsed GSM, especially the first bits of talking to a BTS at full power can easily make the voltage drop enough to cause issues
Mar 18 15:04:52 <woglinde> rcn-ee where is the 3.19 bone variant?
Mar 18 15:05:10 <rcn-ee> musb it's "extra" broken on "3.19.0-armv7-1" because i have it set to work on the omap34/dm373x's "musb" ip...
Mar 18 15:05:13 <woglinde> tbr oh intressting
Mar 18 15:05:21 <rcn-ee> not the bone's am335x..
Mar 18 15:05:52 <rcn-ee> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.19.1-bone4 ; sudo reboot
Mar 18 15:07:03 <tbr> woglinde: it's part of the handshake, start at full possible power and then start regulating according to what the BTS says the RSS on their side is. That's the annoying drumming sound in the speakers
Mar 18 15:07:17 <woglinde> rcn-ee where is the kernel hosted?
Mar 18 15:07:48 <rcn-ee> on repos.rcn-ee.net
Mar 18 15:08:08 <rcn-ee> any image newer then Sep 2014, has that repo enabled by default
Mar 18 15:08:51 <woglinde> rcn-ee hm will you put the source code on the github account?
Mar 18 15:10:30 <rcn-ee> woglinde, it's there: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/tree/3.19.1-bone4
Mar 18 15:10:51 <woglinde> args
Mar 18 15:10:51 <rcn-ee> there's a hint in /etc/apt/sources.list that links to ^^^
Mar 18 15:10:55 <woglinde> more confusion
Mar 18 15:11:17 <woglinde> what is the beagleboard account now for?
Mar 18 15:11:51 <rcn-ee> what confusion..  the beagleboard account has repos for "3.8" and "3.14" which are offically blessed as the ones to use..
Mar 18 15:12:05 <woglinde> okay
Mar 18 15:12:19 <woglinde> so 3.19 will be there eventually
Mar 18 15:12:27 <rcn-ee> nope. ;)
Mar 18 15:12:42 <rcn-ee> when "overlay's" work mainline, i'll push that version to beagleboard's repo..
Mar 18 15:12:54 <woglinde> okay
Mar 18 15:13:00 <rcn-ee> till then it's just a mainline kernel..
Mar 18 15:13:01 <woglinde> so it will be 4.x than
Mar 18 15:13:10 <woglinde> hopefully
Mar 18 15:13:56 <rcn-ee> some people use it, but mainlly i'm just tracking mailine to make sure things still work, there are no regressions, etc.. That way when we move to newer kernel, there's less suprises..
Mar 18 15:14:51 <woglinde> rcn-ee hm so in your 3.19 are no special commits right?
Mar 18 15:14:58 <rcn-ee> for example, without v4.0.x-bone build, i wouldn't have easily tracked this down: http://bugs.elinux.org/issues/137
Mar 18 15:16:12 <rcn-ee> (need to push 3.19.1 then i can show you the delta..)
Mar 18 15:19:02 <rcn-ee> woglinde, okay tags pushed, you can see the patch delta here: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/compare/v3.19.1...3.19.1-bone4
Mar 18 15:19:34 <rcn-ee> pretty small..
Mar 18 15:20:11 <woglinde> thanks for pushing the tags
Mar 18 15:21:03 <abferm> would it be possible for someone to send me a link to the patch for the musb watchdog problem?
Mar 18 15:21:34 <rcn-ee> never heard of it..
Mar 18 15:22:53 <woglinde> abferm?
Mar 18 15:23:06 <woglinde> look at the commit log yourself
Mar 18 15:23:34 <rcn-ee> abferm, the watchdot and musb are seperate compoents, never heard of the musb having a dedicated watchdog subsystem....
Mar 18 15:27:33 <woglinde> rcn-ee hm I thought when the musb hangs or makes kernel oops and you have the watchdog configured proably the system will reboot
Mar 18 15:29:19 <rcn-ee> well there is a generic kernel option for panic's/opps/etc...
Mar 18 15:29:24 <rcn-ee> (to reboot)
Mar 18 15:29:52 <rcn-ee> tieing it into the watchdog, would guareentee it'll reboot..
Mar 18 15:42:55 <abferm> rcn-ee: sorry I was going off something that was said earlier.
Mar 18 15:54:21 <abferm> rcn-ee: Other than the reboots, which were also happening before on earlier bone kernels I've had no problem running the main stream kernel. What all is "optmized" in the bone variant? Most of what I see in the commit history is cape related, and I don't need any of that.
Mar 18 15:56:14 <rcn-ee> abferm, mostly config tweaks for the musb ip and optimizations we can use on newer Cortex-A8 core found in the am335x..
Mar 18 15:56:59 <rcn-ee> other then that, i also don't test the bone on that branch, so it might break...
Mar 18 16:10:11 <abferm> tbr: my PSU is designed to be able to supply > 3A at 5V
Mar 18 16:31:34 * jkridner looks around for those interested in mentoring #beagle-gsoc
Mar 18 16:33:24 * jkridner looks at pdp7
Mar 18 16:34:20 <BeagleBug_> what's beagle-gsoc? there's a google project?
Mar 18 16:34:53 <Mikaela> Google Summer of Code
Mar 18 16:34:57 <av500> google summer of code
Mar 18 16:35:14 <BeagleBug_> i know. relation to beagle?
Mar 18 16:35:25 <jkridner> Google pays summer interns $5000 to work on a project over the summer...
Mar 18 16:35:29 <Mikaela> beagle is one of the participating projects from what I understood
Mar 18 16:35:36 <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org is a mentoring organization.
Mar 18 16:35:46 <jkridner> project has to be on open source software.
Mar 18 16:36:10 <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org would get an allocation to approve a certain number of projects and mentor the students through the process.
Mar 18 16:36:19 <jkridner> s/would/will/
Mar 18 16:36:36 <BeagleBug_> oh ok
Mar 18 16:36:45 <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org chooses the mentors and the project proposals from students.
Mar 18 16:37:01 <jkridner> av500 is our illustrious leader this year and I'm the co-admin.
Mar 18 16:37:28 <jkridner> doesn't hurt to peak into #beagle every now and again to try to recruit. if any interest, head on over to #beagle-gsoc.
Mar 18 16:37:45 <BeagleBug_> i'm coming yo!
Mar 18 16:45:53 <BeagleBug_> is there any dsp accelerated opencv library for bb-xM?
Mar 18 16:46:19 <av500> no
Mar 18 16:46:37 <av500> there was ample talk about it though back then
Mar 18 16:46:59 <av500> and there was some code
Mar 18 16:47:22 <BeagleBug_> so it's too old to pursue or something else?
Mar 18 16:48:45 <av500> BeagleBug_: many people realized that the DSP is not really faster
Mar 18 16:48:52 <av500> but its there at the same time as the ARM
Mar 18 16:49:02 <av500> but then, openCV does not handle that case easiöy
Mar 18 16:49:04 <av500> easily
Mar 18 16:49:13 <av500> at least back then
Mar 18 16:49:27 <av500> so using the DSP to make it faster means to run stuff in parallel
Mar 18 16:49:49 <av500> not just stop the ARM and wait for the DSP to finish in a synchronous call
Mar 18 16:50:25 <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=beagleboard+dsp+opencv
Mar 18 16:50:30 <jkridner> there was enough done on the library to test a few things and some things on the DSP *could* be made faster. the parallel thing could help in speed, but scheduling stuff was a bit too tough to make it practical as OpenCV was written. AFAIR
Mar 18 16:51:29 <BeagleBug_> ok, so no chance of 10x performance improvement on image processing apps?
Mar 18 16:52:00 <av500> yup
Mar 18 16:53:27 <av500> it depends
Mar 18 16:53:27 <av500> everybody talks about performance, but nobody wants to quantify it
Mar 18 16:53:27 <av500> speed up "what" exactly?
Mar 18 16:53:28 <av500> just "image processing" does not help
Mar 18 16:54:06 <BeagleBug_> background subtraction
Mar 18 16:54:39 <clvrmnky> It's because no one likes the metrics system.
Mar 18 16:54:44 <clvrmnky> (Ha.)
Mar 18 16:55:24 <BeagleBug_> the algo i'm running is pixel-based (independent). so massive parallel opportunity
Mar 18 21:32:29 <Volleyballerin> hello
Mar 18 21:54:11 <mwillbanks> i'm attempting to get pins that look like bspm_P9_15_27 in /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
Mar 18 21:55:07 <mwillbanks> basically, i'm wondering how to make it so that they come up i have P9, 11-15 that i need to get input from and my boss states it is just 'magically showing up' for him
Mar 18 21:55:53 <mwillbanks> running latest stripped down debian
Mar 18 23:35:16 <Emmentaler> I just upgraded to latest debian image and configured my wireless.  It works when I run "ifup wlan0" but does not come up on boot and even adding cron job @reboot doesn't bring it up. Ideas?
Mar 18 23:36:18 <agmlego|skynet> /etc/network/interfaces?
Mar 18 23:37:33 <Emmentaler> yes
Mar 18 23:38:10 <agmlego|skynet> No, that was my suggestion.
Mar 18 23:38:10 <Emmentaler> I am using the adafruit guide version of ifaces
Mar 18 23:38:30 <agmlego|skynet> Set it up correctly in the interfaces file, and it will come up on boot. No need for cron or anything like that.
Mar 18 23:38:38 <agmlego|skynet> YOu have a networking subsystem; use it!
Mar 18 23:38:58 <Emmentaler> Yes, but it stopped comeing up automatically after I upgrade to this new version of debian
Mar 18 23:39:12 <agmlego|skynet> Then see what changed in the file or the subsystem.
Mar 18 23:39:26 <agmlego|skynet> Might have just been a simple issue with changing syntax of the config file.
Mar 18 23:39:37 <Emmentaler> Nothing that I can tell.  The ihup wlan0 works fine from terminal
Mar 18 23:39:47 <Emmentaler> hmmm
Mar 18 23:39:58 <Emmentaler> Which config file?
Mar 18 23:40:04 <agmlego|skynet> ...
Mar 18 23:40:12 <agmlego|skynet> /etc/network/interfaces
Mar 18 23:42:27 <Emmentaler> let me pastebin the file
Mar 18 23:43:12 <agmlego|skynet> OK.
Mar 18 23:43:56 <Emmentaler> http://pastebin.com/QMqj5LJJ
Mar 18 23:44:31 <agmlego|skynet> Right, so you are telling debian not to automatically start wlan0.
Mar 18 23:44:41 <Emmentaler> I am?
Mar 18 23:44:43 <agmlego|skynet> You commented out "atuo wlan0".
Mar 18 23:44:57 <agmlego|skynet> the "auto" directive stats an interface on boot.
Mar 18 23:45:08 <agmlego|skynet> The '#' character is a comment.
Mar 18 23:45:19 <Emmentaler> just dumped my password too
Mar 18 23:45:22 <Emmentaler> lol
Mar 18 23:45:27 <Emmentaler> oh
Mar 18 23:45:28 <agmlego|skynet> (also, now I have your password)
Mar 18 23:45:30 <agmlego|skynet> Yup.
Mar 18 23:45:52 * agmlego|skynet goes to eat dinner.
Mar 18 23:46:32 <Emmentaler> I am sure that is it. Thanks. I just didn't see it
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