**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 25 02:59:58 2015 Mar 25 06:02:57 Machinekit runs on bb and bbb, right ? Mar 25 06:05:12 And it can also control PRUs to drive the motors ( ?? ) Mar 25 06:06:56 Is Hunyue Yau up here ?? Mar 25 06:09:30 Or Laine Walker-Avina ? Mar 25 06:22:23 ZeekHuge: probably fast asleep Mar 25 06:23:21 av500: So can you help me on clearing the machinekit doubt ? Mar 25 06:24:11 And what are their nick name on here ? Mar 25 08:47:23 Hi guys. I've a quick question: I'm about to order a BBB, however it seems that it doesn't ship with a uSD-card. Do I need one or can I also use the BBB without a uSD-card? Mar 25 08:48:09 i'd get one Mar 25 08:48:21 even if you dont need it, it helps Mar 25 08:48:26 also, buy a serial2usb cable Mar 25 08:48:29 you'll need that too Mar 25 08:48:41 make sure it's a 3.3V one Mar 25 08:49:31 also, if you meet prof ulrich schmid, say hi to him Mar 25 08:49:41 ok, thanks! Mar 25 08:49:52 who is prof ulrich schmid? Mar 25 08:50:30 https://ti.tuwien.ac.at/ecs/people/schmid Mar 25 08:51:34 Unfortunately I don't know him. (I'm not studying at the TU Wien) Mar 25 08:52:12 oops Mar 25 08:52:24 sorry, to early to distinguish between tu and fh ^^' Mar 25 08:52:40 * KotH goes to get another bar of chocolate Mar 25 08:53:41 haha, np :D how much do you recommend for the uSD? is 4GB enough? (i guess most OSes will have about 1.5GB) Mar 25 08:59:03 and what do I need the serial2usb cable for? Mar 25 08:59:04 depends on what you are doing Mar 25 08:59:16 a standard embedded system is something between 5 and 20MB Mar 25 08:59:26 if you go for debian, you'll need at least 150MB iirc Mar 25 08:59:40 i dont know what the sizes of the images cirulated are Mar 25 08:59:59 most of them are ranged from 4 to 64 GB Mar 25 09:00:05 there will be a need to debug what's going on the bbb when neither usb nor network are working yet Mar 25 09:00:19 it's like a monitor connection, so you can watch the system boot Mar 25 09:01:02 ah, i see Mar 25 09:47:10 hmm, wasn't the beagleboard-x15 due to be available late februari? Mar 25 09:49:11 it's already the 53th of februari... Mar 25 09:58:24 hi everyone Mar 25 09:58:42 i want to install minicom on to bbb Mar 25 09:59:45 i am using ubuntu 14.04 lts Mar 25 10:00:24 on typing apt-get install minicom its showing unable to locate package Mar 25 10:00:44 anybody know how to install minicom on to bbb Mar 25 10:02:46 apt-get update Mar 25 10:08:25 woglinde : thanks for reminding i am so dumb Mar 25 12:31:29 Have a BBB with GPS connected through RS232, but gpsd will not start on boot. I can start it directly though. Any hints? Mar 25 12:32:09 Knaldgas: how do you start it manually? Mar 25 12:32:43 Humpelstilzchen: service gpsd start works fine Mar 25 12:33:27 Knaldgas check /etc/default/gpsd Mar 25 12:33:54 woglinde: START_DAEMON="true" Mar 25 12:33:58 okay Mar 25 12:34:07 woglinde: All looks ok to me Mar 25 12:34:24 Knaldgas: does the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/ exist? (if not systemd..) Mar 25 12:34:42 Knaldgas debian or ubuntu? Mar 25 12:34:51 debian Mar 25 12:34:54 Wheezy Mar 25 12:35:18 And I believe it runs systemd Mar 25 12:35:34 systemctl status Mar 25 12:35:44 than you know Mar 25 12:36:47 systemctl status: Too few arguments - systemctl status gpsd.service: gpsd.service - GPS (Global Positioning System) Daemon, etc... Mar 25 12:37:47 systemctl status gpsd.service gives "Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/gpsd.service; static)" and "Active: inactive (dead)" Mar 25 12:38:10 But I'm baffled over why I don't even get an error in the logs... Mar 25 12:39:11 * Knaldgas trying to reboot with more debugging Mar 25 12:40:22 Not a single peep :( Mar 25 12:40:34 It's like systemd is not even trying Mar 25 12:41:24 "Kernel command line: ... init=/lib/systemd/systemd" so I suppose systemd is invoked... Mar 25 12:43:27 Knaldgas hm does it have socker activation enabled? Mar 25 12:43:42 than systemd would only start it when you connect a client Mar 25 12:43:54 woglinde: Ohhh... Mar 25 12:44:09 ;) Mar 25 12:44:14 woglinde: How do I check that? Mar 25 12:44:22 look at /etc/systemd/system/gpsd.service Mar 25 12:44:43 or pastebin it Mar 25 12:44:43 13:43:27 < woglinde> Knaldgas hm does it have socker activation enabled? srsly? Who would want that for GPS? Mar 25 12:45:07 Humpelstilzchen how should I know Mar 25 12:45:22 gentoo or arch has this setup Mar 25 12:46:21 woglinde: http://pastebin.com/9W8JPSn3 Mar 25 12:48:17 yeah looks like socket activation Mar 25 12:48:37 But gpsd.socket seems to have failed... Mar 25 12:49:55 * Knaldgas is afk for 15 minutes or so... Mar 25 12:52:04 Knaldgas hm disable socket activation Mar 25 12:52:21 and start gpsd the way it sources the nmea stream at startup Mar 25 12:54:12 Is it possible to use qemu to emulate a BeagleBone black? Or is there a method to cross compile packages. I want to build a io.js package as compiling on the hardware takes some time. Had a quick google but could not find much. Mar 25 12:54:22 it's possible Mar 25 12:54:29 i dont know anyone who's done it Mar 25 12:54:36 only people doing general arm systems Mar 25 12:54:45 w/o external connections Mar 25 12:55:02 also, you dont need to do ethical compiles Mar 25 12:55:06 you can always cross compile Mar 25 12:57:29 Cross compiling would work. Just want to try and cut down the compile times. I am running Ubuntu on the BBB. I will take another look at cross compiling. Mar 25 13:28:59 * Knaldgas is back Mar 25 13:32:07 woglinde: I think I've disabled the socket activation, but still no cigar :( Mar 25 13:32:33 systemctl status gpsd.service --> Active: inactive (dead) Mar 25 13:33:03 And starting it with "systemctl start gpsd.service" works fine... Mar 25 13:34:48 * Knaldgas is pondering... Mar 25 13:42:38 Knaldgas hm you need to remove the dependencies too Mar 25 13:43:58 woglinde: Thanks, I'm reading into it now - I think I did something wrong for sure Mar 25 14:35:50 FINALLY!! :-) Mar 25 14:36:23 Had to learn the systemd way... Mar 25 14:36:35 Knaldgas yes Mar 25 14:37:59 gpsd now running at boot. woglinde, you were right of course, disabling the socket-thingie was part of the solution - The other part was to edit the /lib/systemd/system/gpsd.service to include the device. Mar 25 14:38:06 Thanks for your help guys Mar 25 14:39:11 Knaldgas uhm hm? Mar 25 14:39:22 the device is read by /etc/default/gpsd Mar 25 14:39:47 and /lib/systemd/system/gpsd.service should have an EnviromentFile stanca to read this file Mar 25 14:39:57 woglinde: Ought to, but for some reason the gpsd.service file does not adhere to that Mar 25 14:40:10 hm mistake by the maintainer maybe Mar 25 14:40:14 I did find a place where this was mentioned Mar 25 14:47:50 woglinde: Appears to have been fixed in gpsd version 3.13 (Wheezy uses 3.6) Mar 25 14:48:15 Knaldgas debian version 3.13? Mar 25 14:48:20 https://fossies.org/diffs/gpsd/3.11_vs_3.13/systemd/gpsd.service-diff.html - I fixed my version accordingly Mar 25 14:48:29 No gpsd version Mar 25 14:48:44 Knaldgas does not mean debian follows this Mar 25 14:48:59 woglinde: Not quite sure what you mean? Mar 25 14:49:34 EnvironmentFile=-/etc/default/gpsd Mar 25 14:49:34 EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/gpsd EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/gpsd Mar 25 14:50:18 Yes, I think so - I have fixed my version so it uses the EnvironmentFile method, and it works Mar 25 14:51:02 sure Mar 25 15:24:18 how much i2c interfaces are there on a BB? Mar 25 15:25:31 what does the documentation say? Mar 25 15:27:47 OK 3, that is good, I have currently 2 available, i2c-0 and i2c-2 and in my uEnv.txt I put cape_enable=capemgr.enable_partno=BB-I2C1 Mar 25 15:28:25 but not showing up, by the way I used bone-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-02-19-2gb.img.xz Mar 25 15:28:29 to install the SD card Mar 25 15:34:52 AxonetBE you should look up if the kernel you are using supports capemgr Mar 25 15:36:05 woglinde: don't think so because there is no file like /sys/devices/bone_capemgr Mar 25 15:41:52 how can I add this support? Mar 25 15:42:36 you cannt on 3.14 Mar 25 15:42:54 so I can't use the i2c interfaces? Mar 25 15:48:09 AxonetBE: you can, somehow. I don't remember now how to enable that one i2c interface, but it can be done while running without a need to boot Mar 25 15:49:32 adj: ok but it means I can't have it automaticly after each reboot? Mar 25 15:49:32 AxonetBE: ah, sorry, I remembered incorrectly. I had only this: echo BB-I2C1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots Mar 25 15:57:39 stupid contest, but if you have a Facebook account and some time to spare, you might comment "BBB" on https://www.facebook.com/MCMElectronics/photos/a.277947428940.142952.47440088940/10153011562208941/?type=1&theater Mar 25 15:57:58 * jkridner won't go as far as sending something to a mailing list Mar 25 15:58:38 adj: woglinde : so the best is to rollback to kernel 3.8? Mar 25 15:59:26 Is Cloud9 updated via package manager (apt-get)? If so, why does the package manager say it has been "held back"? If not, how do I update the beaglebone stand alone version? Mar 25 16:01:52 AxonetBE depends Mar 25 16:02:02 AxonetBE if you need it fast rollback Mar 25 16:02:36 othwerwise wait for rcn to tell you how to activate it under 3.14 Mar 25 16:02:47 I forgot it Mar 25 16:06:59 hi there, i guess this question is asked quite frequently. but i will have a try. are there any rumors about an updated bbb with gbe? Mar 25 16:08:18 what is gbe? Mar 25 16:08:46 woglinde: what do you mean with rcn ? :) Mar 25 16:08:46 gigabit ethernet Mar 25 16:13:43 robert c nelson the kernel maintainer for the bbb Mar 25 16:15:21 janis .. google 'beagle x15' Mar 25 16:22:02 holy cow. Mar 25 16:23:34 Have a gps on an CBB-Serial-r02 cape, attached 1PPS to CTS - gpsd do support that, right? Mar 25 16:24:39 In syslog I have: "pps pps0: new PPS source OMAP-SERIAL4" and "pps pps0: source "/dev/ttyO4" added", but "ppstest /dev/pps0" returns "time_pps_fetch() error -1 (Connection timed out)" Mar 25 16:28:10 Is Cloud9 updated via package manager (apt-get)? How do I update the beaglebone Cloud9 stand alone version? Mar 25 16:28:42 Emmentaler .. you can specify directly the package(s) via 'apt-get install xyz' and it will update Mar 25 16:29:08 doesnt work for held back packages I think Mar 25 16:29:22 Emmentaler .. only with 'apt-get UPDATE' Mar 25 16:29:32 sorry, UPGRADE Mar 25 16:29:55 apt-get INSTALL will go ahead .. if absolutely necessary you can 'aptitude safe-upgrade' Mar 25 16:29:57 hmm. let me try Mar 25 16:30:27 tried it on one of my debian systems recently with astack of 'kept back' packages Mar 25 16:31:07 IT still says kept back even when I specify cloud9-installer Mar 25 16:31:09 apt-get dist-upgrade will also install all the held-back packages Mar 25 16:32:19 Anyone run across "cloud 9 language worker could not be loaded" Mar 25 16:32:30 endrift .. that's useful Mar 25 16:32:46 I have tried the dist-upgrade as well. Still no joy. Mar 25 16:33:00 ...or at least that's what I've been told <_< Mar 25 16:33:03 Emmentaler .. what error are you getting. Mar 25 16:33:40 you may need to find a separate command to update the cloud9 .. may not be included via the 'installer' package Mar 25 16:33:55 From the Cloud9 ide I get "language worker could not be loaded". If I look in debug (running chrome) I see the message as well Mar 25 16:34:26 Error: Language worker could not be loaded; some language features have been disableddefault.js:10932 show Mar 25 16:35:11 I looked in the source code and there is a recent update that has to do with starting it with --collab Mar 25 16:36:15 Knaldgas: I'm not sure if the BBB's drivers support a PPS on CTS, but I know it works if you change it to a pps-gpio Mar 25 16:37:23 Good point ddrown: I've just tested that the PPS actually gets past the RS232 level driver, and it does. Now I will check the CTS line in software Mar 25 16:38:16 afaik there's no flow control on the serial ports.... Mar 25 16:39:40 I actually do not need flow control, I just need CTS-edges to reach the kernel (for 1 PPS) Mar 25 16:40:15 just change that pin to be gpio and use the pps-gpio module Mar 25 16:40:29 and you'll get your PPS timestamps Mar 25 16:40:50 ddrown: "Change that pin", that sounds easy(?) :) Mar 25 16:40:58 Ok, I'll try somehow Mar 25 16:41:03 yeah, requires a devicetree overlay Mar 25 16:41:49 This is what I used - http://dan.drown.org/bbb/DD-GPS-00A0.dts.txt Mar 25 16:42:07 slightly more info - http://blog.dan.drown.org/beaglebone-black-ntpgps-server/ Mar 25 16:43:11 just nailed that ddrown :) Mar 25 16:43:33 also .. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/emMCqt_mllI .. Knaldgas Mar 25 16:44:22 phew, yet another thing for me to learn - Overlays :) Mar 25 16:44:42 Thanks ddrown and veremit, I'll dig into these links Mar 25 16:46:26 hm 3.8 kernel Mar 25 16:46:58 yeah, 3.8 is the latest one with capemgr Mar 25 16:47:20 newer kernels will run, but you'll need to redesign the devicetree stuff for it Mar 25 16:47:25 yes Mar 25 16:47:39 we need more blog article about 3.14 Mar 25 16:48:14 I agree Mar 25 16:49:53 need a go-to resource for the beagles .. Mar 25 16:50:04 single+ Mar 25 16:50:15 even if its just an index of blog articles Mar 25 16:50:23 like the arduino playground site Mar 25 16:51:49 dunno whether that can be accomplished through the elinux site? Mar 25 16:57:11 I think I found the problem, I didn't see that flowcontrol should be enabled through an overlay... - Can somebody tell me what this actually do (from the manual): "echo UART2-RTSCTS > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots" Mar 25 16:57:41 It seems a bit odd (overwriting the content of the slots-file) Mar 25 16:58:59 Knaldgas .. that's not an actual file :) Mar 25 16:59:11 its an interface to the capemgr system Mar 25 16:59:25 Right :o) Mar 25 16:59:35 you'll probably find you can't "read" it Mar 25 17:00:11 so its just a means to say "hey capemgr dude, I need *this* to work, please?" Mar 25 17:00:20 I can read it fine, but I can't write to it... Mar 25 17:00:41 you'll see in the syslog .. how it 'reacts' .. hopefully. Mar 25 17:01:04 if not, maybe it needs some debug flag Mar 25 17:01:07 This is weird Mar 25 17:01:33 "echo UART4-RTSCTS > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots" gives "-bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory" Mar 25 17:01:45 I'd imagine if you want gpio on those pins .. you don't want uart cts/rts Mar 25 17:02:14 I've checked the gpsd code, and it does seem like the CTS line is monitored for PPS Mar 25 17:02:33 Knaldgas .. that may be true .. but you may find that the beagle's cts is not enabled Mar 25 17:02:45 ie. in the ti driver for the uart. Mar 25 17:03:00 hence, why those here have suggested pps/gpio Mar 25 17:03:18 I'd suspect they've done their research, just as you are :) Mar 25 17:03:31 veremit: So even though "cat /proc/tty/driver/OMAP-SERIAL" gives "uart:OMAP UART4 mmio:0x481A8000 irq:45 tx:446 rx:1332773 fe:697 pe:53 brk:8 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR" I cannot rely on that? Mar 25 17:03:55 Knaldgas .. I wouldn't bet my life on it, no .. Mar 25 17:04:01 Right... Mar 25 17:04:22 however, I've been known to be wrong :D Mar 25 17:04:30 occasionally. Mar 25 17:04:31 :D Mar 25 17:04:32 A bit disappointing that Logic-Supply write that in their manual then :-/ Mar 25 17:04:36 Mee too :) Mar 25 17:05:37 it does depend very much on your kernel/build configuration though Mar 25 17:05:49 so yea... don't take that as gospel Mar 25 17:06:18 Of course - I would like to try to "just enable flow-control" as specified, and see if it "just works" then :) Mar 25 17:06:33 Would be the cleaner way, but I may become disappointed as you mention ... Mar 25 17:06:46 its a trial-and-error procedure .. and you learn plenty in the process, hopefully :D Mar 25 17:07:52 Oh dear, yes - I've used all Yesterday and this morning finding out the Factory defaults "TX Priority" is very bad for the RS232 radio link I'm using... Mar 25 17:08:28 Basically it means "just transmit, even if the other end is transmitting" *DUH* Mar 25 17:08:54 heh Mar 25 17:09:52 My BeagleBoard C5 keeps crashing Mar 25 17:09:55 :/ Mar 25 17:11:02 Knaldgas: check dmesg for messages, I don't have a /lib/firmware/UART2-RTSCTS.dtbo file Mar 25 17:11:24 Knaldgas: so unless you have one, it's probably complaining about not finding that cape to load Mar 25 17:11:56 ddrown: I do have a "/run/udev/firmware-missing/UART4-RTSCTS-00A0.dtbo" Mar 25 17:12:19 Ahh, "not really a file" Mar 25 17:13:14 WHERE?!!! lol Mar 25 17:13:24 Hmmm, that gave me a lead... Mar 25 17:16:41 Hey can someone help me find out why my BB keeps crashing? Mar 25 17:16:48 Hi, I built the kernel for the BBB and was able to load it via TFTP from the uBoot prompt Mar 25 17:17:05 gshrikant .. now you just need to write it somwhere :p Mar 25 17:17:09 * SpyKu is linuz n00b Mar 25 17:17:41 SpyKu .. do you have your trusty debug cable connected to J1 ?? Mar 25 17:18:15 I can break them out... Mar 25 17:18:18 veremit: Yeah, I am just screwing around with the build options to try things out. Mar 25 17:18:30 i';ve done this when I first got it years ago :P Mar 25 17:18:40 :) Mar 25 17:18:41 need to connect to Tc and Rc pins right? Mar 25 17:18:46 *tx/rx Mar 25 17:18:48 What I did not understand was where you get the LOADADDR from? Mar 25 17:19:02 pins 1,4,5 .. gnd, tx, rx (NB. not strictly that order) Mar 25 17:19:38 gshrikant .. its just a known address in RAM you can access, with enough 'space' to fit whatever in. Mar 25 17:19:50 I was able to do it without the grn pin connected Mar 25 17:19:57 I'd imagine its 'above' uboot/etc. Mar 25 17:19:57 gnd Mar 25 17:20:00 darn keyboard Mar 25 17:20:23 SpyKu .. might work, but not guaranteed to be without noise issues, but depends where 'else' you might have a ground :p Mar 25 17:21:58 So, I would be able to modify the load address to point to some other memory location? Mar 25 17:22:35 I think I'll need to dig a little more into the AM335x TRM before asking further. Mar 25 17:22:43 gshrikant .. in principle. I know of one uboot flashing procedure that uses several. Mar 25 17:22:49 agreed :) Mar 25 17:23:01 and uboot too Mar 25 17:24:41 veremit, one I get into debugging, can I make it so the BB always loads MMC first? Mar 25 17:24:47 veremit: Of course. :-) Mar 25 17:25:21 SpyKu yes .. but the boot process is a bit involved .. check with rcn on his return .. he's the guru. Mar 25 17:27:59 i thought I read somewhere you can use the armstrong demo and hold "user" for 10 seconds when boting but last night the page was down Mar 25 17:28:46 SpyKu .. depends entirely on which version of uboot and the bootloader are present on your individual board .. as a few 'tricks' have been employed Mar 25 17:33:21 On a different topic (and forgive me for being ignorant of this): why is the Device Tree only employed on specific architectures (ARM/PPC) and not others? Mar 25 17:33:57 history Mar 25 17:34:07 x86 had bios/acpi since ever Mar 25 17:34:28 PPC had DT, but the number of PPC systems was limited Mar 25 17:34:36 linus said ARM is a mess Mar 25 17:34:45 so ARM jumped on the DT train Mar 25 17:34:49 now its a different mess Mar 25 17:35:03 Yes, that mailing list post is what prompted me to ask in the first place. Mar 25 17:35:16 lol av500 .. figures Mar 25 17:36:39 its a less orderly mess .. at least there is some attempt at structure now .. Mar 25 17:36:46 les .. erm .. yanno. Mar 25 17:36:49 more orderly Mar 25 17:37:36 less disorderly* what I meant lol Mar 25 17:38:10 damn double negatives Mar 25 17:42:16 clearly I am new to the concept but I understand for interfacing any "platform" device to the processor, you'd need to make changes to the device tree? Mar 25 17:42:50 basically yea Mar 25 17:43:39 I am looking at this I2C IMU which I want to get working on my BBB. There's a IIO driver for it too. But documentation seems to run a bit sparse. Mar 25 17:44:05 if its i2c .. kernel driver should have that wrapped .. no ? Mar 25 17:45:56 gshrikant .. look for equivalents on similar platforms too Mar 25 17:46:15 I'm sorry I don't understand. "Kernel driver should have that wrapped Mar 25 17:46:21 won't be the same, but might give you a few key hints Mar 25 17:46:31 gshrikant .. the kernel has an i2c driver native Mar 25 17:46:50 ie . if you write a program to talk to the i2c device nodes .. you're good-to-go Mar 25 17:47:01 cf /dev/i2c-1 Mar 25 17:47:19 Yes. And I understood that the IIO subsystem is layered on top of the base I2C drivers? Mar 25 17:47:32 not sure about IIO .. could be.. never used it Mar 25 17:49:29 you know you're getting hardcore when you're reading the core kernel docs :) lol Mar 25 17:50:24 lol. It's just that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the driver/sensor business. Mar 25 17:51:09 yea when you get an OS involved .. :) Mar 25 17:51:43 I figure you don't mess with the DT unless its some sort of pinmuxing situation or you're writing a driver or something. Mar 25 17:51:53 veremit: Exactly my thoughts :-) Mar 25 17:52:35 pretty much. Its the interface between hardware and software that pinmuxing takes care of .. and which processor function 'arrives' on that pin if there are more than one. Mar 25 17:52:47 which often there are. Mar 25 17:54:06 okay, that clears things up somewhat. :) Mar 25 18:24:22 morning all. Mar 25 18:26:29 faddah: Morning Mar 25 18:26:35 I need help Mar 25 18:26:59 I am trying to do this http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/WL18xx_AMxxx_Platform_Integration_Guide#Prebuilt_Images Mar 25 18:33:09 blahh Mar 25 18:33:16 got distracted Mar 25 18:33:56 libregeekingkid .. "I need help" doesn't describe a problem .. please elaborate .. Mar 25 18:37:51 veremit - i think libregeekingkid is winding up for the story, sit back, enjoy. {sits in barcalounger, puts up feet, munches popcorn...} Mar 25 18:38:05 lol faddah .. or ping'ing out .. lol Mar 25 18:38:37 SpyKu: veremit I am trying to get a Wi-fi cape working with a beaglebone black Mar 25 18:38:47 go on ... Mar 25 18:38:52 what "doesn't work" .. Mar 25 18:39:19 I am using the pre-built Images provided to me here http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/WL18xx_AMxxx_Platform_Integration_Guide Mar 25 18:39:29 still trying to find what pins on jtag or TX and Rx :/ Mar 25 18:39:36 or = are Mar 25 18:39:51 I can't do an apt-get upgrade there Mar 25 18:40:10 apt-get, nano commands are not working on it Mar 25 18:40:36 post error Mar 25 18:41:10 i'll be back, folks, booting out of ubuntu linux system for now. Mar 25 18:41:46 SpyKu: faddah: take a look http://paste.debian.net/163217/ Mar 25 18:41:56 libregeekingkid - right, because you need wifi or an internet connection and you probably have none to the beaglebone, yes? Mar 25 18:42:44 faddah: no, I am having internet connection via ethernet. I have logged in to it over ethernet Mar 25 18:43:45 sudo apt-get nano ? Mar 25 18:44:02 says no nano found Mar 25 18:44:19 faddah: SpyKu Take a detailed look here to its configurations Mar 25 18:44:20 http://paste.debian.net/163218/ Mar 25 18:44:23 libregeekingkid: so i take it "am335x-evm" is your beaglebone? Mar 25 18:44:32 faddah: right Mar 25 18:45:45 faddah: SpyKu: The biggest problem is this http://paste.debian.net/163220/ Mar 25 18:46:14 libregeekingkid: hmmmm... just never seen it named that. but i'm new too. in anycase, ssh'ing into your beaglebone with ethernet connected, can you ping google.com or yahoo.com or cnn.com? Mar 25 18:46:24 SpyKu .. apt-get update Mar 25 18:46:25 try aptitude Mar 25 18:46:52 oops let me refresh Mar 25 18:46:56 SpyKu - apt-get is part of aptitude, it's what he says he can't make work. Mar 25 18:46:59 SpyKu: I already did Mar 25 18:47:11 werid... Mar 25 18:47:15 ah probably angstrom Mar 25 18:47:17 no apt Mar 25 18:47:18 :) Mar 25 18:47:27 opkg --help Mar 25 18:47:39 ^ Mar 25 18:47:51 libregeekingkid - can you ping from the beaglebone with an ethernet connection? Mar 25 18:47:57 I am using a pre-built image provided by TI, logged in as root user with password beagle Mar 25 18:48:09 libregeekingkid .. "ping google.com" Mar 25 18:48:21 veremit - that's what i said. Mar 25 18:48:36 faddah: check the lines at the end http://paste.debian.net/163218/ Mar 25 18:48:50 libregeekingkid can ping Mar 25 18:49:02 just tyy opkg Mar 25 18:49:05 *try Mar 25 18:49:07 ok so where we at Mar 25 18:49:22 wlan is up I see Mar 25 18:49:28 so driver is loaded Mar 25 18:49:37 there's no IP address... Mar 25 18:49:44 and you prbably haven't got a link associated yet Mar 25 18:49:48 libregeekingkid - what distro is this "TI" using for this image you put on the beaglebone? Mar 25 18:49:54 try 'iwconfig' or 'wpa_cli status' Mar 25 18:50:11 faddah .. we'l be on angstrom/yocto Mar 25 18:50:58 veremit - i know angstrom, don't know yocto - is that an X window manager like unity or k or such? Mar 25 18:50:58 "evm" is the evaluation module variant .. not a "beagle" per-se .. just a generic am335x board Mar 25 18:51:07 veremit: I have not set an Ip address in interfaces. If I set it there Wi-fi will work fine. The board is also having Ethernet Connected. It can ping to internet Mar 25 18:51:16 faddah .. its a distro like 'debian' or 'ubuntu' or 'arch' or 'gentoo' etc Mar 25 18:51:28 veremit - got it. Mar 25 18:51:37 libregeekingkid .. have you configured your wifi interfaceon the beagle? Mar 25 18:51:50 libregeekingkid .. do you want it to Get an IP address .. or use a predefined one Mar 25 18:52:27 libregeekingkid & veremit - i would say whomever put his image together stripped it down and took out stuff to make it lean, like no aptitude. libregeekingkid, do you have stuff in there like wget & curl? Mar 25 18:52:28 libregeekingkid .. you may want 'dhcp' and a client eg dhclient or dhcpcd Mar 25 18:52:55 libregeekingkid .. standard yocto is a minimal build .. 'apt' is called 'opkg' Mar 25 18:53:06 sorry ,, tgats fir faddah Mar 25 18:53:06 veremit: I have not configured it right now. But I can do that easily. The problem here is not the cape. Its a missing package manager and basic things like nano Mar 25 18:53:22 libregeekingkid .. you can't use 'vi' ? *laughs* Mar 25 18:53:34 veremit & libregeekingkid - ah, forgot about opkg Mar 25 18:53:35 veremit: Internet access is not the problem here Mar 25 18:53:51 i'll leave you all to this, restarting, back in a while Mar 25 18:53:52 libregeekingkid .. sorry had my wires croseed Mar 25 18:54:11 libregeekingkid .. "vi" is an editor Mar 25 18:54:17 faddah: veremit: SpyKu: take a look at available commands here http://paste.debian.net/163221/ Mar 25 18:54:31 libregeekingkid .. your package manager for yocto should be 'opkg' .. but its a real **** Mar 25 18:55:20 libregeekingkid .. yeah that means ** **** Mar 25 18:55:32 you don't get "help" on linux :D Mar 25 18:55:46 libregeekingkid - that list has no opkg, wget or curl Mar 25 18:55:50 try "cat /usr/bin" :) Mar 25 18:56:11 those are your "commands" Mar 25 18:56:38 veremit - i think you mean "# ls -a /usr/bin"? Mar 25 18:56:52 faddah .. yeah true .. that one .. Mar 25 18:56:53 veremit - don't think you can "cat" a directory Mar 25 18:57:09 too many things at once :D Mar 25 18:57:31 so yeah, libregeekingkid - "# ls -a /usr/bin" - show us that Mar 25 18:58:15 totally can cat a directory. Mar 25 18:58:29 directories are foes like everything elee. Mar 25 18:59:05 faddah: veremit: agmlego|skynet: Take a look here http://paste.debian.net/163223/ Mar 25 18:59:22 why? Mar 25 18:59:51 there we go Mar 25 19:00:04 I se opkg :P Mar 25 19:00:17 +1 SpyKu Mar 25 19:01:08 iirc yocto has a 'nano' package Mar 25 19:01:19 opkg update Mar 25 19:01:46 guessing there's no 'nano' i the list, currently .. :) Mar 25 19:01:47 http://www.3open.org/d/oe/install_additional_packages_using_opkg Mar 25 19:01:49 veremit: SpyKu: I was thinking that this was debian as the pre-installed one. Now what is yocto Mar 25 19:01:49 should help Mar 25 19:02:18 libregeekingkid .. TI don't use debian. Mar 25 19:02:26 libregeekingkid, veremit & SpyKu - ok, so you have opkg, wget & curl. you can use those. Mar 25 19:02:43 libregeekingkid .. beagle project Does from rev. C onwards? Mar 25 19:03:08 iirc rev B and before are also Yocto Mar 25 19:03:41 libregeekingkid .. https://www.yoctoproject.org/ Mar 25 19:03:53 veremit: I am using a revision C Beagle Bone Black Mar 25 19:04:01 crap, they didn't even give him vi, vim or emacs, let alone nano. libregeekingkid - what do you use to text edit? Mar 25 19:04:07 I still need help connecting jtag to my pc's com port :x Mar 25 19:04:10 libregeekingkid .. then you have updated it somehow .. Mar 25 19:04:20 faddah: I use nano most of the times Mar 25 19:04:20 Can't find where the Tx and Rx pins are Mar 25 19:04:31 opkg update Mar 25 19:04:35 opkg install nano Mar 25 19:04:36 libregeekingkid - i mean on the beaglebone board? Mar 25 19:04:49