**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 26 02:59:58 2015 Mar 26 06:15:35 HI all , could you tell me how to block online and off line notification? Mar 26 06:20:09 Eugene_0: depends on your client Mar 26 06:20:11 google it Mar 26 06:24:28 av500: i tried but not found, i'm using a web browser, now i'm downloading pidgin, anyway, thank you Mar 26 07:17:20 can i ask about BBB in this live chat? Mar 26 07:17:42 yes, that's what it's for Mar 26 07:18:59 i want to write android into eMMC on board, how can i do? Mar 26 07:20:27 i successed sd booting but emmc failed Mar 26 07:21:40 no idea. it /might/ be enough to just dd the sdcard to the emmc. Mar 26 07:23:23 how can i get image for emmc android? Mar 26 07:23:47 i did dd but failed.. Mar 26 07:24:41 i think problem is in image Mar 26 08:23:41 Can anybody tell me how I can enable the 3rd i2c interface on kernel 3.14? Mar 26 08:26:18 AxonetBE as I said yesterday ask robert c nelson when he is here Mar 26 08:26:37 thats maybe in the afternoon of your timezone Mar 26 08:26:47 or use google Mar 26 09:06:25 hello Mar 26 09:08:40 Can anyone tell me what is the maximum frequency for ADC sampling without PRU for BBB? Mar 26 09:09:38 probably a few khz. If you go for DMA then much higher. Mar 26 09:12:15 So, with a sampling rate of about 500Hz it would be okay to process a real-time signal without PRU? Mar 26 09:12:41 might work, dunno Mar 26 09:12:55 define process? Mar 26 09:12:59 just sample it? Mar 26 09:13:06 or respond in real time? Mar 26 09:13:27 the original driver isn't the highest quality. I sometimes get bogus values, so I smooth them. Mar 26 09:16:08 The process is basically about filtering. The signal will be an ECG. And I'd like to do a real-time filtering and after that a heart rate recognition algorithm. Mar 26 09:18:01 I am wondering if I can accomplish it without usage of PRU. Mar 26 09:18:04 what do you mean with real time filtering? Mar 26 09:19:59 I want to filter the signal in parts as it goes into BBB. In this way i'll be able to show it in a monitor. Mar 26 09:20:43 But without stopping, as it works in patient monitors in hospitals. Mar 26 09:21:03 without stopping does not mean real time Mar 26 09:21:14 you can hook up a simple SPI ADC Mar 26 09:21:20 let that be read via DMA Mar 26 09:21:30 and then process it with a short delay from user space Mar 26 09:21:35 no need for PRU Mar 26 09:27:12 In that case I'll need an extra ADC board? That what it is? Mar 26 09:28:09 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+ADC+SPI Mar 26 09:28:23 e.g. https://donfuge.wordpress.com/2014/05/04/getting-started-with-the-ads1248-on-the-beaglebone-black/ Mar 26 09:29:01 and https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+SPI Mar 26 09:29:39 Okay, let me check it out. Thank you for your answers, be well av500. Mar 26 09:38:35 can i ask at this chat? Mar 26 09:38:52 son sure Mar 26 09:40:19 ask, dont ask to ask Mar 26 09:44:41 thanks. i wanna install android to BBB by using mkmmc-android.sh. so i typed $sudo ./mkmmc-android.sh /dev/sdb1 but "mount special device dev sdb1 does not exist" error echoed Mar 26 09:47:23 isnt partiton be formed by mkmmc-android.sh? Mar 26 09:47:27 yes Mar 26 09:47:35 check first what device your card is Mar 26 09:47:45 it could be some other /dev/sd* Mar 26 09:47:58 when you insert the card and run dmesg, you should see Mar 26 09:48:18 also, why sdb1? Mar 26 09:48:21 and not sdb? Mar 26 09:49:02 i dont know... Mar 26 09:49:06 but first check what your card is Mar 26 09:49:24 well, if you dont know, you should not run such commands as root Mar 26 09:50:26 Mar 26 09:50:42 . /dev/sdb1 is right Mar 26 09:53:25 i plugged SD card using sd to usb convertor Mar 26 09:58:41 so then its /dev/sdb Mar 26 09:59:56 how can i change sdb1 to sdb Mar 26 10:00:45 son ask your supervisor for another task Mar 26 10:01:36 son: 1) you move the cursor behind the "1" Mar 26 10:01:43 2) you press BACKSPACE Mar 26 10:01:50 3) done Mar 26 10:02:07 * ogra_ would use scissors Mar 26 10:02:10 just cut off the partition from the SD Mar 26 10:07:47 but partition does not exist Mar 26 10:08:00 i see fdisk Mar 26 10:09:33 what instructions are you following? Mar 26 10:27:52 hello! through what interface would you connect wifi, bluetooth 4.0 and a SIM900 through? SP1, USB, UART? Mar 26 10:29:37 + motion sensor + pressure sensor Mar 26 10:29:43 + temp sensor Mar 26 10:29:54 I guess those 3 go through I/O Mar 26 10:35:07 what is a sim900? Mar 26 10:42:03 SIM900 is a chip for GPRS/GSM Mar 26 10:42:12 can receive / make calls, SMS, data Mar 26 10:42:31 I just wonder how many SPI you can do in series Mar 26 10:46:44 Ad0: wifi and bluetooth: USB because the driver is usually tested best Mar 26 10:47:20 Humpelst1lzchen o.O Mar 26 10:47:31 musb will shred your wifi sooner or later Mar 26 10:47:33 ok Humpelst1lzchen Mar 26 10:47:49 woglinde: shred? Mar 26 10:48:09 temp, pressure, motion: not that difficult, driver can easily be written, so e.g. i2c Mar 26 10:48:19 Ad0 yes musb will go beserk and you will lost wifi Mar 26 10:49:09 that can't happen Mar 26 10:49:19 people will die Mar 26 10:49:26 so I need a mission critical solution Mar 26 10:49:33 :) Mar 26 10:49:38 don't use a BBB Mar 26 10:49:50 why not Mar 26 10:50:08 it's not meant for use cases where people could die as the result Mar 26 10:50:09 it's still the same ARM CPU as you would find by itself etc Mar 26 10:50:41 ok tbr they won't die but it should be able to run nonstop 24/7 without failure Mar 26 10:51:52 for the SIM900, I'd use an UART Mar 26 10:52:02 yeah I guess that's a given Mar 26 10:52:07 most are UART as an interface Mar 26 10:52:09 woglinde: you have stable wifi over !usb? Mar 26 10:52:33 but wifi, bluetooth and sim can't all be uart right? Mar 26 10:52:38 need 3 uarts then Mar 26 10:52:43 Humpelst1lzchen: hard to say which one will be worse, usb or Wilink8 cape... Mar 26 10:52:54 maybe use the gpio as soft uart? Mar 26 10:52:58 Ad0: board has 6 uarts or so Mar 26 10:53:20 hm I actually had a hard time finding a proper spec Mar 26 10:53:22 on what it can do Mar 26 10:53:37 check SRM and TRM, both should be linked from elinux Mar 26 10:55:08 Ad0: I'm not recommending it, but consider the WiLink8 cape. it would have WiFi and BT AFAIU. Mar 26 10:55:26 ok Mar 26 10:56:14 thanks Mar 26 10:56:26 is there a list sorted by stability or somethign Mar 26 11:05:17 Hi ddrown - I now have UART4 running with 1PPS using your guide. I did change the 1PPS pin to P8.35 (UART4 CRT-line), but "ppstest /dev/pps0" outputs 1pps, so I guess the changes I made are ok Mar 26 11:06:15 Now I'm a bit confused why the gpsd creates another pps-device: /dev/pps1, which does not work... Mar 26 11:06:47 look at the gpsd source code? Mar 26 11:07:00 Is that something I should ignore and just get on with installing chrony? Mar 26 11:07:15 Hi woglinde :) Mar 26 11:13:39 knaldgas no idea Mar 26 11:14:08 when your stuff is working why not ignore it Mar 26 11:14:22 Well, it's not working entirely yet Mar 26 11:14:58 the ppstest work on /dev/pps0, but gpsd does not see any pps. Perhaps that is not important, if just ntpd will use it Mar 26 11:15:13 ? Mar 26 11:15:14 I'll try to ignore it and continue configuring ntps Mar 26 11:15:19 es Mar 26 11:15:20 yes Mar 26 11:15:30 if ntpd is working with it so all is fine Mar 26 11:16:50 Yes Mar 26 11:39:31 hello all Mar 26 11:41:15 I cannot get USB working on a BBB, I tried different USB devices and nothing is detected Mar 26 11:43:47 I have compiled a 3.14 kernel with the usual USB, PHY, mass storage options enabled and I get what seems correct prints on booting, usb-storage, ehci_hcd enabled Mar 26 11:44:52 Anybody knows where I could get a 3.14.36 kernel config to compare it to mine? thanks Mar 26 11:45:46 I have also tried to connect devices before powering up but no joy Mar 26 12:07:40 jsolano: http://defiant.homedns.org/~erik/bbb_config Mar 26 12:17:08 Hi All, could someone tell me where I change the vmalloc size? I’m trying to run the 3.14 kernel with android kitkat. The kernel is booting but it seems I’m stuck in a bootloop when the android homescreen gets rendered. I keep getting thrown back to the boot logo. Mar 26 12:36:35 i have shorted p9_24 and p9_26 pins in beaglebone black running debian version 3.8.* kernel. i used adafruit python library to enable it and i have also /dev/ttyO1 as indicated in that tutorial but when i fire minicom i dont get back what i have typed. I tried googling this issue but with no fruitful results. please help me Mar 26 12:37:14 i was enabling UART communication Mar 26 12:38:46 thunder_kk: minicom, doesn't that have handshake enabled by default? Mar 26 12:39:37 Knaldgas: i didn't understand can you please elaborate Mar 26 12:40:37 Serial communication can have hardware handshake (DTR/DSR, RTS/CTS), and when enabled either end wont send anything until the handshake signals from the other end allows transmission Mar 26 12:42:09 Knaldgas: ohh i was connecting gps modules which doesn't have any handshake hardware. okay how to disable the handshake?? Mar 26 12:42:53 In minicom: ctrl-A O, then Serial Port setup, then "F" for Hardware Flow Control Mar 26 12:43:22 Knaldgas: Thank you very much Mar 26 12:43:24 And you do call minicom with the right device? Mar 26 12:43:43 minicom -d /dev/ttyO1 Mar 26 12:44:51 Knaldgas: okay will do as you told. thanx Mar 26 12:46:02 np Mar 26 12:48:48 Hrmpf, ppstest /dev/pps0 is working, gpsd is running, but chronyc sources don't see any pps updates... Mar 26 12:49:04 NMEA messages is coming thoough Mar 26 12:49:47 In chrony.conf: "refclock PPS /dev/pps0 refid PPS lock NMEA" Mar 26 12:55:54 Knaldgas: okay i will try Mar 26 13:19:24 Humpelst1lzchen: thanks, I will try that config Mar 26 13:32:27 Knaldgas: i have tried disabling software and hardware handshakes but it still not echoing back whatever i have typed Mar 26 13:44:41 thunder_kk: try open two terminals on your BBB Mar 26 13:45:12 Execute: stty -F /dev/ttyO2 19200 raw Mar 26 13:45:49 Ehh, "stty -F /dev/ttyO1 19200 raw" in your case Mar 26 13:47:26 thunder_kk: Sorry, use this one instead: stty -F /dev/ttyO2 19200 raw clocal -crtscts Mar 26 13:48:11 (replace /dev/ttyO2 with /dev/ttyO1 if that's the port your using) Mar 26 13:48:25 Then in one terminal execute: cat /dev/ttyO2 Mar 26 13:48:38 And in the other: echo Test >/dev/ttyO2 Mar 26 13:48:48 and see if it comes through Mar 26 13:51:12 or not... Mar 26 14:00:53 if I enable my i2c-1 on kernel 3.8 he is on bus 2, why not on bus 1? Should be more logical :) Mar 26 14:01:08 now ic2-0 is on bus 0, ic2-1 on bus 2 and ic2-2 on bus 1 Mar 26 14:03:38 Hi all. Can I map onboard LEDs to GPIO pins? Mar 26 14:04:00 My BBB is in a case, and I have external LEDs plugged into GPIO pins. Mar 26 14:05:07 Knaldgas: i was disconnected due to poor connectivity. i followed what you told but still with no luck. can you please give me another method please please Mar 26 14:06:01 thunder_kk: cat /proc/tty/driver/OMAP-SERIAL ? Mar 26 14:06:31 just the line for UART1 Mar 26 14:06:45 Knaldgas: serinfo:1.0 driver revision: Mar 26 14:06:45 0: uart:OMAP UART0 mmio:0x44E09000 irq:72 tx:362 rx:0 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR Mar 26 14:06:45 1: uart:OMAP UART1 mmio:0x48022000 irq:73 tx:218 rx:1 brk:1 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR|CD|RI Mar 26 14:06:45 2: uart:OMAP UART2 mmio:0x48024000 irq:74 tx:30 rx:1 brk:1 CTS|DSR Mar 26 14:10:02 thunder_kk: miniterm.py -p /dev/ttyO1 -b 19200 Mar 26 14:10:09 and then type away? Mar 26 14:11:19 Knaldgas: no i can't see back what i have typed Mar 26 14:11:47 Exit miniterm.py and try this: miniterm.py -p /dev/ttyO1 -b 19200 --rts=1 --dtr=1 Mar 26 14:13:40 Knaldgas: Sorry but still i can see back whats typed Mar 26 14:14:02 Then I think you will have to double-check wiring Mar 26 14:14:44 Knaldgas: yup i will check it now. thanx! Mar 26 14:17:26 Knaldgas: you are perfect you made my day miniterm i typed a bit wrong sorry for that. thank you very much. thank you Mar 26 14:20:21 why isn't beaglebone considered fit for mission critical applications when other arm based boards can be ? Mar 26 14:22:00 Ad0: only military grade devices are for mission critical apps. beaglebone is only for amateurs and hobbyists. Mar 26 14:25:27 thunder_kk: ok what about stuff that's in home security then Mar 26 14:25:34 like an alarm that sends a signal to the central Mar 26 14:25:54 I don't understand why beaglebone can't be used for stuff like that Mar 26 14:26:15 Knaldgas: to answer your previous question, gpsd automatically sets up a pps on the serial port. you can safely ignore it Mar 26 14:26:37 Knaldgas: and chrony requires the NMEA messages to be within +-200ms for the PPS messages to be considered valid Mar 26 14:26:56 so messing with the offset should help that, or using a pool ntp server Mar 26 14:27:04 I mean what would you use for such stuff then? Mar 26 14:31:55 Ad0: every military and life saving device undergoes many tests. those devices are not made of normally used materials. for example lamborghini driver makes an accident and if balloon not blows on his face then the sesnsors are faulty and he can sue the complete company for selling that. and you can't screw beaglebone creators or company if your alarm didn't blow. so using or not using depends on your own risk. for that sake people say taking Mar 26 14:31:55 care of your well being dont use Mar 26 14:32:48 but home security - they have to use something Mar 26 14:33:11 I bet my ass they use a sim300 / sim900 with an AVR Mar 26 14:33:18 so? Mar 26 14:33:23 sure you can use the BBB for that Mar 26 14:33:37 if you sell the device, its your responsibility Mar 26 14:33:53 Ad0: then you find a vulnerability and you can sue them Mar 26 14:34:19 hehe Mar 26 14:34:24 doesnt work like that in norway Mar 26 14:35:36 Ad0: haha why it wouldn't? give it a try. and if you want i will backup :P Mar 26 14:36:14 hehe Mar 26 14:36:25 but people have to use something right Mar 26 14:36:30 sure Mar 26 14:36:36 ppl are free to use whatever they want Mar 26 14:36:49 but what do they typically use? Mar 26 14:36:53 depends Mar 26 14:37:03 of course but let's say a home alarm system Mar 26 14:37:10 still depends Mar 26 14:37:14 sigh :P Mar 26 14:37:21 well, what do you expect? Mar 26 14:37:21 where do people figure this out then Mar 26 14:37:27 "all home alarms use arduinos" Mar 26 14:37:30 haha Mar 26 14:37:46 I would like something they use this setup or they use atmel blah blah Mar 26 14:37:47 "all ATMs use OS/2 on 486s" Mar 26 14:37:58 Ad0: you wont get that answer Mar 26 14:38:06 ATMs arent fully mission critical, they just don't have to fuck up Mar 26 14:38:17 they can have downtime Mar 26 14:38:21 and they often do too Mar 26 14:38:46 Ad0: imagine in india they still use win xp in ATM's no words then Mar 26 14:38:53 hehe Mar 26 15:04:09 hey guys . I want to know the impact of the project "orbital imaging cubesat " on the beagleboard community . will you please provide me some feedback ? Mar 26 15:05:09 altairpearl: try not to aim it at us when it crashes, and the impact will be minimal. Mar 26 15:05:32 design it to burn up before ground contact if possible. Mar 26 15:17:33 lol >.< Mar 26 15:23:23 ddrown: Woohoo :) Mar 26 15:23:40 Knaldgas: you got it? Mar 26 15:23:53 ddrown: Yup :-D Mar 26 15:24:00 Thanks ddrown!!! Mar 26 15:24:56 nice Mar 26 15:25:50 ddrown: NMEA +201ms and PPS +241ms Mar 26 15:26:08 are those your current offsets? Mar 26 15:26:17 those should settle down Mar 26 15:26:27 ddrown: NMEA -41ms and PPS +748us Mar 26 15:26:30 now Mar 26 15:27:06 However, the noselect and minsamples were not recognized by my version Mar 26 15:27:30 I'd expect PPS offset to go under 1us, possibly under 100ns depending on various conditions Mar 26 15:28:33 The offset and delay for the NMEA, how do I tune those? Mar 26 15:28:41 PPS is now +194 Mar 26 15:28:42 us Mar 26 15:29:12 the delay of 0.2s for NMEA is fine, just tells chrony not to trust it :) Mar 26 15:29:29 for the offset, just average out a few hour's worth of samples Mar 26 15:30:01 So ideally adjust offset heading for 0ms? Mar 26 15:30:12 yeah Mar 26 15:30:15 Roger Mar 26 15:30:22 317ns PPS Mar 26 15:30:31 NMEA is going to jump around by tens, even hundreds of ms Mar 26 15:30:39 so don't be surprised by that Mar 26 15:31:02 Hold on... Which of the values to focus on, the ones within brackets or the ones outside? Mar 26 15:31:35 I think the ones within are the raw samples and the ones without have been adjusted Mar 26 15:32:25 Do you know where I find the meaning of the second character there, * + ~? Mar 26 15:32:38 chronyc sources -v Mar 26 15:33:09 chronyc sourcestats ; chronyc tracking Mar 26 15:33:13 also have useful data Mar 26 15:33:22 DUH - I hate when I have been looking around, and then the answer is obvious ... Mar 26 15:34:18 So NMEA "Ok for sync" and PPS "current synced" is what I'm after? Mar 26 15:34:53 PPS current synced is mainly the goal Mar 26 15:35:12 with noselect, my NMEA is marked as ? - unreachable Mar 26 15:37:11 noselect: "Never select this source" Mar 26 15:37:19 Makes sense :) Mar 26 15:37:22 yup Mar 26 15:41:35 And it's ok for "chronyc activity" to ready "0 sources online"? Mar 26 15:42:05 hm, I'd expect it to say 1 source at least Mar 26 15:42:13 is the PPS still in * status? Mar 26 15:42:22 Yes, and NMEA in + Mar 26 15:42:43 hm, I wonder if that's a bug then? Mar 26 15:43:16 "chronyc tracking" should say Stratum 1 and refid of 80.80.83.0 (PPS) Mar 26 15:44:09 Yep Mar 26 15:46:21 chronyc version 1.24, probably an older one Mar 26 16:04:46 ddrown: The system is meant to float around on a buoy, i.e. no Internet and the only time service will be GPS. The in-system clock cannot be relied upon at power-up. Which chrony directives will be relevant for me? Mar 26 16:05:07 I mean, chrony should be allowed to set system time by several months during startup Mar 26 16:05:16 initstepslew is one directive Mar 26 16:05:20 I think the defaults should be ok Mar 26 16:05:25 but that's a good thing to test Mar 26 16:06:15 Hmm: initstepslew apparently only works with NTP sources... Mar 26 16:07:02 makestep perhaps Mar 26 16:11:48 ntp is availabile over aprs. Mar 26 16:11:54 ;-P Mar 26 16:13:51 In the Arctics as well? ;-) Mar 26 16:15:10 sure, 2m propagation is Pretty good. Mar 26 16:15:44 realistically, could you just use an external rtc? Mar 26 16:18:59 Well, they need position, heading and time, so a dual-GPS is likely the right thing to do Mar 26 16:19:34 right, i am trying to solve the initial calandar-time set. Mar 26 16:19:48 which you could store in an external rtc. Mar 26 16:20:16 gps should be fine for clock-level discipline. Mar 26 16:21:51 Ah I see, well, they need a GPS so they can just as well get date and time from the GPS as well, or am I missing something? Mar 26 16:22:28 I use the debian from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian Mar 26 16:22:45 but when I ssh there is always a message with the default username and passwod Mar 26 16:22:50 where can I remove this? Mar 26 16:23:02 /etc/ssh/banner Mar 26 16:23:06 or something like that Mar 26 16:23:40 /etc/issue Mar 26 16:23:53 yes thats it:) Mar 26 16:23:55 thanks Knaldgas Mar 26 16:24:08 Or rather: /etc/ssh/sshd_config points at /etc/issue Mar 26 16:25:23 Knaldgas: and also /etc/issue.net Mar 26 17:37:04 I can't compile on the BBB with .... while the same source compiles under Windows. Mar 26 17:37:18 here a paste of the make output from debian Mar 26 17:37:26 root@beaglebone:/home/debian/MSX_PG/Debug_Build# make Mar 26 17:37:28 /home/debian/wxWidgets-3.0.2/build-debug/bk-deps g++ -c -o msxpg_Util.o -D__WXGTK__ -I../src -DWXUSINGDLL -Wall -Wundef -Wunused-parameter -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Woverloaded-virtual -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/home/debian/wxWidgets-3.0.2/build-debug/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-3.0 -I/home/debian/wxWidgets-3.0.2/include -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gtk-2.0/incl Mar 26 17:37:29 ude -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -DWX_PRECOMP -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0... Mar 26 17:37:31 ...-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden ../src/Utilities/Utilities.cp Mar 26 17:37:32 p Mar 26 17:37:34 In file included from ../src/Utilities/Utilities.h:8:0, Mar 26 17:37:35 from ../src/Utilities/Utilities.cpp:9: Mar 26 17:37:37 ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:11:9: error: ‘uint8_t’ does not name a type Mar 26 17:37:38 ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:12:9: error: ‘uint16_t’ does not name a type Mar 26 17:37:40 ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:13:9: error: ‘uint32_t’ does not name a type Mar 26 17:37:41 ../src/Utilities/Declarations.h:14:9: error: ‘uint64_t’ does not name a type Mar 26 17:37:51 the makefile is made by hand by me: what i'm missing? Mar 26 17:38:02 please use a pastebin Mar 26 17:38:21 and thats not a beagle question Mar 26 17:38:27 its a wxWidgets question Mar 26 17:39:30 ....shame on me... i don't know what it mean "pastebin". And "uintXX_t" are not declared in the wxWidget files, but in MinGW Mar 26 17:39:35 and I do not think -DWXUSINGDLL is meant for a unix system Mar 26 17:40:32 that is the output of the "configure". I copied the makefile and adapted to my source Mar 26 17:40:50 http://pastebin.com/ Mar 26 17:42:34 http://pastebin.com/u0VEt9RS Mar 26 19:25:01 Hi, I've build an image using Buildroot and the "beaglebone_defconfig" file. I'm getting kernel loading on tty but I'm getting no output on HDMI, did I miss something ? Mar 26 20:23:24 Hi, I've build an image using Buildroot and the "beaglebone_defconfig" file. I'm getting kernel loading message on tty(ftdi cable) but I'm not getting any output on micro-hdmi, did I miss something ? Mar 26 20:24:26 you asked that already. Mar 26 20:24:48 please read the topic. Mar 26 20:33:58 erakis_: what beaglebone_defconfig are you referring to? Mar 26 20:35:32 <@wmat> : The one comming with buildroot in /configs/beaglebone_defconfig Mar 26 20:36:47 gimme a sec while I clone the repo Mar 26 20:37:11 @wmat : This is what I'm getting on the console : http://pastebin.com/XKSU0dNj Mar 26 20:40:13 erakis_: do you have any capes plugged in? Mar 26 20:42:22 No I have no cape plugged in. I only have the FTDI cable connected to my host computer (Windows 7) and Putty and also an HDMI cable to a monitor LG 22''. And I'm not getting any output to the monitor, only on the serial console :( Mar 26 20:45:15 <@wmat> : I also tried using one of our cape here (CLAP070LF02CW) but I get no output too. The hdmi is well working on this board as I test with the beaglebone stock image and this is working. Mar 26 20:46:01 can you login as root on the console? Mar 26 20:46:11 yes Mar 26 20:46:59 try this: cd /sys/class/drm/card0/card0-HDMI-A-1 Mar 26 20:47:18 then once in that dir: parse-edid edid Mar 26 20:47:26 what do you see? Mar 26 20:47:42 @wmat : -sh: cd: /sys/class/drm/card0/card0-HDMI-A-1: No such file or directory Mar 26 20:48:39 @wmat : It seem that I don't have a "drm" folder. Mar 26 20:48:51 hmmm, my info may be out of date Mar 26 20:49:15 have you tried a different hdmi cable? Mar 26 20:49:32 Yes, no positive result :( Mar 26 20:51:00 can you search for the card0 dir? Mar 26 20:51:45 @wmat : "find / -name card0" = no result Mar 26 20:51:55 wmat: could it be that it's a defconfig for the original beaglebone? aka bbw? Mar 26 20:52:50 tbr: it's possible Mar 26 20:53:27 people running buildroot might not be interested in HDMI, so not even notice the missing output :) Mar 26 20:55:16 tbr: of course the readme.txt in the board directory doesn't help Mar 26 20:55:42 @wmat : More info : I have a beaglebone Rev.C. I used buildroot and clone the repo yesterday. I use the following command on buildroot : "make beaglebone_defconfig" and then "make". Mar 26 20:57:45 I'm looking for a lightweigh linux image (no X11), with (systemd, dhcp, Qt5 on eglfs with TI-gfx). Are you advising me to use another bulid tool like Yocto or Buildroot could do ? Mar 26 20:59:15 why not just use one of the console images from rcn? Mar 26 21:00:25 I use BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-03-01-2gb.img Mar 26 21:00:50 that's on old A4a and A4 boards Mar 26 21:01:21 how can figure out what DT "compatible" string I need to use to for a particular I2C device? Mar 26 21:01:47 specifically at 24c256 eeprom. But more generally, how I can I formulate this in general? Mar 26 21:04:22 @wmat : rcn ? Mar 26 21:04:25 erakis_: you might want to try asking in the #buildroot channel as well Mar 26 21:04:33 erakis_: robert nelson's images Mar 26 21:05:06 erakis_: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian Mar 26 21:05:59 erakis_: specifically, I use the BBB (all Revs) eMMC Flasher console image: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#BBB_.28All_Revs.29_eMMC_Flashers Mar 26 21:06:37 erakis_: unless you really need to use buildroot Mar 26 21:06:53 @wmat : We are using a builder because we want a lightweight and customized image. Also we will need to use this image for production on many units. The existing image don't have Qt5 properly installed with hardware acceleration, and has to many package for our needs... Mar 26 21:07:23 @wmat : I tried asking to buildroot channel, but I get no response :( Mar 26 21:07:25 erakis_: right, but to test the hdmi out is working, just use another image Mar 26 21:08:10 erakis_: don't use the flasher image, but rather try a microSD image and boot from that just to see if HDMI works with it Mar 26 21:08:40 erakis_: if it does, the problem is with buildroot Mar 26 21:09:33 @wmat : I already tried with another image and the HDMI is well working,. Mar 26 21:11:21 erakis_: ah, ok, well I'm not sure what else to tell you other than to keep poling the buildroot beaglebone people Mar 26 21:11:48 i have to run, dinner time Mar 26 21:13:34 @wmat : This is what I've done, I use an image booting from a microSD and I got the hdmi output. So the hdmi is working, this is not the problem :( Mar 26 21:14:55 @wmat : Do you advise me another bulid tool more up-to-date or more maintained ? Mar 26 23:04:09 erakis_: Yocto perhaps using core-image-minimal Mar 26 23:04:26 erakis_: https://www.yoctoproject.org/downloads/bsps/daisy16/beaglebone Mar 26 23:04:41 wmat: miss the TV hauling? Mar 26 23:06:23 ds2: heh, nope Mar 26 23:06:34 ds2: were there any good giveaways this year? Mar 26 23:07:15 wmat: I wasn't impressed :D Mar 26 23:07:37 rather have k9's then fishes Mar 26 23:17:45 heh Mar 27 00:34:23 Hello everyone! Mar 27 00:34:36 I'm stuck can anyone help me? Mar 27 00:36:10 I recommend solvents. Mar 27 00:36:46 I bought a beaglebone black at radio shack, it's an A6 version and I like to update it. Mar 27 00:37:31 Well, A6 is a hardware revision. Not much there to "upgrade", unless you are handy with a soldering iron and a hot-air station. Mar 27 00:37:46 I like to switch to debian Mar 27 00:37:58 Are you sure it is not already running debian? Mar 27 00:38:37 I typed apt-get update in the term and it's not found Mar 27 00:39:06 Does the command 'opkg' exist? Mar 27 00:39:23 let me check Mar 27 00:39:52 I build an image using Buildroot and I'm unable to get hdmi working on my beaglebone. Here is the error from dmesg "tilcdc 4830e000.lcdc: failed to initialize mode setting". This is not a hardware failure as If I try with the stock image all works well. Mar 27 00:40:52 yes that command is there Mar 27 00:41:57 prosoundguy: OK, so you have Angstrom. I suggest following one of the many guides online on 'how to flash debian on beaglebone black' Mar 27 00:42:13 prosoundguy: You will need a microSD card. Mar 27 00:42:28 prosoundguy: And an Internet connection. And a card reader. And a host computer. Mar 27 00:43:02 I've been doing that but I'm confused on the file to download. On the latest releases there is one that says 4 gig eMMC but all the tutorials say to use a 2 gig eMMC Mar 27 00:43:44 Oh, wait. This is a white beaglebone? Mar 27 00:44:47 The white beaglebone has no eMMC. Mar 27 00:44:54 You boot from uSD. Mar 27 00:45:10 it's a beaglebone black A6 Mar 27 00:46:01 Thank you for specifying.. Mar 27 00:46:17 The A6 has a 2GB eMMC; the 4GB ones are Rev C and later. Mar 27 00:46:22 the latest file is 4 gig but I think my board needs 2 gig Mar 27 00:46:51 I can't find the 2GB file anywhere on the site Mar 27 00:46:51 ...yes, I just said that. Mar 27 00:47:08 Where are you looking? Mar 27 00:47:15 beagleboard.org Mar 27 00:48:18 Why? Mar 27 00:48:42 that's where the tutorials directed me Mar 27 00:49:14 That would make them incorrect. Mar 27 00:49:31 Keep in mind the A6 is a pretty old revision; tutorials about it are bound to be out of date. Mar 27 00:49:40 I suggest looking around elinux.org. Mar 27 00:49:53 ok thanks! I'll look there now Mar 27 00:49:59 Specifically, you might try this: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian Mar 27 01:25:08 praneeth: go here http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Releases Mar 27 01:25:13 praneeth: oops Mar 27 01:25:36 was trying to msg prosoundguy, but it seems they left Mar 27 01:25:46 autocomplete bit me :/ Mar 27 01:40:13 I build an image using Buildroot and I'm unable to get hdmi working on my beaglebone. Here is the error from dmesg "tilcdc 4830e000.lcdc: failed to initialize mode setting". This is not a hardware failure as If I try with the stock image all works well. Mar 27 01:41:18 erakis_: you'd be better off emailing the mailing list rather than reposting your question over and over Mar 27 01:41:58 Or, you know, just reading, and following, the directions in the topic. Mar 27 01:42:27 what agmlego|skynet said ^^ Mar 27 02:33:44 I want to buy a beaglebone black but I can only find the one from Element 14 here in the US. Is there any real difference? Mar 27 02:34:25 Depends. Do you consider difference in silkscreen and place-of-origin to be real differences? Mar 27 02:35:00 Depends. Is the quality of the components the same? Mar 27 02:37:01 Are you using the bone in a situation where the failure of a component or two would risk human or animal life, or any property more expensive than a donut? Mar 27 02:38:35 No, unless you count bagels. Mar 27 02:39:17 Then does it really matter? Mar 27 02:40:40 I suppose not. I just didn't want to hear that some components in the Element 14 are so inferior that it would stop working after a week. After all, the BBB costs $60. That is a lot of donuts. Mar 27 02:41:00 It does? Mar 27 02:41:10 Since when does it cost $60? Mar 27 02:41:39 $55 + shipping http://www.adafruit.com/products/1996 Mar 27 02:41:47 Interesting. Mar 27 02:41:57 Good to see the dead hand of market pressure affecting prices. Mar 27 02:43:51 Why? How much did you expect it to cost? Mar 27 02:47:29 Used to be $45. Mar 27 02:47:44 And if you make a large-enough order it would drop further. Mar 27 02:55:58 how to display BBB using 7inch touch LCD? just connect or have to set something? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 27 02:59:59 2015