**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 30 02:59:59 2015 May 30 03:55:42 Do I have to install a new image like what this guy is telling? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzRVVtGNfj8 although the guy on the video is using Windows and I'm on MACOSX May 30 04:15:43 anyone here on mac osx? I can't get http://7zx.updatestar.com/ as mentioned from the getting started on beaglebone May 30 04:30:15 also, i'm on http://beagleboard.org/getting-started#step3 but visit http://192.168.7.2 is not working. Any ideas? May 30 04:37:17 i can now browse 192.168.7.2 May 30 04:38:54 what do you mean "can't get", download link not working for you? May 30 04:40:16 woohoo, i'm ssh in now May 30 04:40:56 Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone47 #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux May 30 04:41:29 how do I update the image? The instructions provided isn't applicable to my mac osx May 30 04:43:36 does it link to a windows image writer? May 30 04:44:22 i was able to download bone-debian-7.8-lxde-4gb-armhf-2015-03-01-4gb.img.xz May 30 04:44:41 and yes, the instructions are for a Windows and I see the image writer too May 30 04:45:05 this is where I saw it - http://beagleboard.org/getting-started#step3 May 30 04:45:13 no idea about gui image writers on os x, i always use dd May 30 04:45:30 you can use unxz to decompress it May 30 04:45:37 k May 30 04:45:50 also, i am on my beaglebone via chrome - http://192.168.7.2/Support/BoneScript/updates/ May 30 04:46:04 unxz only exists on 10.10, btw May 30 04:46:20 it says Step #1: Download the latest microSD card image then Download "Angstrom Distribution" from http://beagleboard.org/latest-images. May 30 04:46:23 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_flash_installation_media#In_Mac_OS_X these steps are pretty much the same as you'd be using May 30 04:46:32 yup, i have that binar May 30 04:46:35 er wait it's not even in 10.10, you'll need to build it yourself May 30 04:46:36 binary May 30 04:47:01 mine is in /usr/local/bin/unxz May 30 04:47:03 I seem to have built it as a dependency for something else at some point, so you might be the same way May 30 04:47:04 yeah May 30 04:47:30 good catch, i forget what apple ships May 30 04:47:45 for some reason tar xJf works on 10.10, but unxz isn't a standalone May 30 04:47:54 so I'll use unxz to decompress the .xz file? May 30 04:48:20 oh endrift, tar will work on the xz file? May 30 04:48:24 well, no May 30 04:48:30 it's not a tarball May 30 04:48:36 k May 30 04:48:38 it's a compressed filesystem May 30 04:48:44 unxz then May 30 04:48:46 unxz is the first step yeah May 30 04:48:51 k May 30 04:49:04 i'll try it now May 30 04:49:06 are you trying to install this on the microSD card or on the internal flash? May 30 04:49:15 *eMMC May 30 04:49:32 it's running May 30 04:49:42 i don't have a microSD card May 30 04:49:52 right now, i'm conneting to my bbb via usb May 30 04:50:02 i'm using tethering May 30 04:50:10 oh May 30 04:50:13 i am sshd to it too May 30 04:50:29 in that case I'd recommend just doing apt-get upgrade basically May 30 04:50:42 oh ok :D May 30 04:50:43 the img file is for flashing over an existing filesystem, not for an in-place upgrade May 30 04:50:52 let me check if my bbb will be able to get out to the internet May 30 04:51:13 do you not have it plugged into ethernet? May 30 04:51:23 no May 30 04:51:27 there's some way to do internet sharing over usb May 30 04:51:37 yeah, I can try that May 30 04:51:50 I forget what the driver you need to load on the BBB side is May 30 04:51:51 however, I'll connect a wire directly but i am not sure if usb power will be enough May 30 04:52:01 i don't have a power supply yet May 30 04:52:07 ah... May 30 04:52:11 those are handy :D May 30 04:52:15 do you think it will be fine? May 30 04:52:25 i'll try it though :) May 30 04:52:26 if you're not doing anything too demanding May 30 04:52:56 ok, i see the led on ethernet port lit up May 30 04:53:11 host power + ethernet is fine May 30 04:53:17 it hasn't grab an ip yet May 30 04:53:22 k May 30 04:53:32 did you plug in ethernet or are you trying to do sharing over USB? May 30 04:53:38 you'll need drivers on both sides May 30 04:53:40 plug ethernet May 30 04:53:43 oh yeah ok May 30 04:53:47 that should be fine driverless May 30 04:53:51 yup May 30 04:54:01 should i restart bbb to get ip? May 30 04:54:16 no, try running dhcpcd as root though May 30 04:54:22 or is it dhcpclient? May 30 04:54:24 or service network restart like in fedora May 30 04:54:26 I can't remember which it is May 30 04:54:48 it's not using networkd is it? (i don't use debian on bone) May 30 04:54:52 ah there you go took a while :) May 30 04:55:10 took like almost a minute, just like the old days via hub May 30 04:55:12 hehehe May 30 04:55:18 so yeah, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade May 30 04:55:19 spanning tree protocol May 30 04:55:21 that should be good enough May 30 04:55:24 awesome May 30 04:55:36 i'm in root, do i still need to use sudo? May 30 04:55:40 it *will* take a while May 30 04:55:48 no, if you're already root sudo is unnecessary May 30 04:55:52 cool May 30 04:56:03 thanks brothers!!! :D May 30 04:56:51 it's running May 30 04:57:07 brb, i'll talk to wifey first before she shouts, lol May 30 04:58:25 back, she's already sleeping :) May 30 05:24:10 looks like I got an error May 30 05:25:17 here it is. What do you think folks? http://pastebin.com/PBfEWDhb May 30 05:56:23 i edited led_aging script and ran apt-get -f install May 30 06:08:15 amazing bbb project - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxLjvWs_8Hc May 30 06:15:55 looks like my beaglebone is now upto date :D http://pastebin.com/FW1HVx5L May 30 06:16:09 endrift: apt-get was successful :D May 30 06:26:30 yay! May 30 06:49:33 Hi, I have a question about WinCE, who can help me? May 30 06:51:51 yeah don't think anyone does Windows here .. try the adeneo folks May 30 06:52:27 <_av500_> SJ: nobody here runs winCE May 30 06:55:14 byeeee lol May 30 06:55:19 bloody m$-ites May 30 13:47:22 am I right that when I connect my beaglebone to the serial device that I want to get a reading from, I'll use the big usb port on the bbb? May 30 13:50:20 zumba_addict: the USB-A port is a host port. How that relates to your "serial device" - I'm not sure May 30 13:56:54 hi all - I want to flash my eMMC with the newest debian version but i cannot find any eMMC version at the latest releases? May 30 13:57:02 its for my BBB May 30 13:59:12 none of them says flasher? May 30 14:04:43 nope May 30 14:04:45 none of them May 30 14:04:53 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images May 30 14:05:04 if you take a look there (all sites and manuals refer to this site) May 30 14:05:19 there is a sd card version but no cMMC May 30 14:05:22 eMMC* May 30 14:05:54 okay - think i found it May 30 14:05:54 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-03-01 May 30 14:05:56 its there May 30 14:06:45 <_av500_> sla: if you are just playing around you might just as well use an SD image May 30 14:06:51 <_av500_> less hassle May 30 14:07:52 well - actually I am realizing a small project May 30 14:09:50 I don't want to press the boot button always when I start my BBB May 30 14:09:51 ^^ May 30 14:10:00 the eMMC is much more comfortable ;) May 30 14:11:54 thanks tbr May 30 14:12:40 sla: just use the image on the download then? May 30 14:12:50 it's a beaglebone black you have right? May 30 14:12:59 yes May 30 14:13:06 right now tbr, i use my laptop's usb port to connect to the serial device and use a terminal software. I wanted to use bbb as laptop replacement. I'll use minicom or other terminal software to connect to it May 30 14:13:18 http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/bone-debian-7.8-lxde-4gb-armhf-2015-03-01-4gb.img.xz May 30 14:13:26 just get the image and follow the guide May 30 14:13:44 remember to boot the image up normally and edit the uboot.txt to allow flashing May 30 14:14:01 @Ad0 I am downloading the eMMC version from the wiki page already :) May 30 14:14:07 I mean /boot/uEnv.txt May 30 14:14:12 eMMC version May 30 14:14:14 yep May 30 14:14:17 what does that mean`? May 30 14:14:24 is it the URL I said? May 30 14:14:52 I flashed the onboard flash with that image on my BBB at least May 30 14:15:27 sorry - lost connection :( May 30 14:15:47 no - its not the one you have written May 30 14:16:09 zumba_addict: ah, so you have some sort of USB-to-serial converter, yes that should work. May 30 14:16:14 yes May 30 14:16:20 The version I am downloading is from this wiki: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#BBB_Rev_C_.284GB_eMMC.29_4GB_eMMC_Flasher May 30 14:16:21 <_av500_> sla: you dont need to May 30 14:16:25 BBB Rev C (4GB eMMC) 4GB eMMC Flasher May 30 14:16:26 <_av500_> just delete MLO on the emmc May 30 14:16:35 so that host-a port should be fine tbr right? May 30 14:16:52 zumba_addict: depending on which voltage levels your device uses, it might be possible to connect it directly to the native UARTs on the BBB May 30 14:17:00 zumba_addict: yes May 30 14:17:05 sla: just get the image from my URL May 30 14:17:10 the normal image May 30 14:17:18 which one is the native uart? is it the one beside the ethernet port? May 30 14:17:31 it works both on a micro SD and is flashable May 30 14:17:44 zumba_addict: you should have a look at the SRM, it explains the available pins May 30 14:17:50 ok May 30 14:17:56 (system reference manual) May 30 14:18:19 okay - it was this one, right: http://debian.beagleboard.org/images/bone-debian-7.8-lxde-4gb-armhf-2015-03-01-4gb.img.xz ? May 30 14:18:47 i lost the connection :/ so i can't see your posted url anymore May 30 14:20:47 with eMMC version I mean the debian image with eMMC flasher May 30 14:20:51 ah, i just saw microsd after reading the srm :D May 30 14:21:27 tbr, do I have to find out the voltage on the serial device? May 30 14:23:16 zumba_addict: yes, both sides MUST use the same voltage levels (or an appropriate level converter) May 30 14:24:00 sorry - again lost connection.... my internet connection is not that good today... May 30 14:25:31 so you say I don't need a special version with eMMC flasher? May 30 14:25:47 hello? - test 1 2 3? May 30 14:27:58 ehm - so you say I dont need a special version with eMMC flasher? May 30 14:28:11 my internet connection is creepy today May 30 14:28:14 I am sorry May 30 14:29:33 hello? May 30 14:48:02 tbr: i'm still searching for the info on the serial port voltage on my ELK-M1 gold device May 30 14:50:41 zumba_addict: the manufacturer page lists a RS-232-C port May 30 14:51:04 what does that mean? May 30 14:51:14 is that for the beaglebone? May 30 14:52:13 in that case yo'd need something like a MAX3232 to interface it to the BBB May 30 14:53:09 k, I thought I can directly connect bbb to my serial device :( May 30 14:53:38 no, that would likely destroy the port on the BBB May 30 14:53:38 it's just weird that I can connect my laptop to bbb May 30 14:54:51 so? May 30 14:55:20 i was hoping that i can just use that usb port beside the lan port to my serial device May 30 14:55:57 yes, nobody stops you from doing that. May 30 14:56:28 oh, so that will work? I will be able to run a terminal software like minicom and talk to the serial device? May 30 14:56:48 yes, I said that already. May 30 14:57:04 oh, i might have misunderstood it earlier May 30 14:57:10 I merely pointed out that the board has NATIVE serial interfaces that you could use May 30 14:57:20 gotcha, thank you May 30 14:57:47 i'm just not use to using a mini usb on a machine that will run the terminal software May 30 14:58:50 now i really need to buy a 2A 5v ps May 30 14:59:01 or else, I won't be able to power it up May 30 15:02:50 Does anyone know how to get tkinter to work on the latest debian image for bbb? May 30 15:38:04 tbr: how will I be able to test the usb port to my serial device since I haven't bought a 5v ps yet? May 30 15:39:22 tbr, an elk-m1 user told me that the serial port is rs232 compliant May 30 15:40:08 do you think it can be connected to the host-a usb port? or do I still need max3232 interface? May 30 15:41:43 i just noticed that if I use the usb port beside the lan port, I will have to find a converter so that I can connect my usb-to-serial cable May 30 15:45:14 i need to buy one like this - http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/5218003/64/367/USB-2.0-A-Female-to-Mini-5-pin-Type-B-Male-Adapter-L13045344.jpg May 30 15:47:34 never mind May 30 15:47:37 got it to work May 30 15:50:12 * ww too got it to work... defaulting to 1024x768@60 if no hdmi display is fine... May 30 15:50:12 but forcing it, and overriding parameters passed to the kernel is questionable. May 30 15:50:27 (different "it") May 30 15:52:11 just wack a kernel commandline parameter in uEnv .. that's perfectly acceptable. May 30 15:52:11 veremit: except that it doesn't work. the display driver ignores that if it doesn't detect anything connected May 30 15:52:50 ... which means i must supply power to my hdmi-composite adapter just so the beagle can see the edid May 30 15:59:04 oh damn I thought there was a way around that .. since I had a LVDS panel connected to one .. May 30 15:59:12 I think you had to force no-detection May 30 15:59:33 somewhere I'll try dig out the config .. I had an uSD card with that image around .. probably in my work desk drawer May 30 16:04:48 i can't find the reference now, but i think it takes a 2 line kernel patch to fix... would be delighted to learn otherwise though May 30 16:05:46 well .. it was an old pre-DT kernel I was using .. so could be. May 30 16:09:19 what can be connected to the host-a usb port on our bbb? May 30 16:09:49 erm .. any usb client device? May 30 16:10:09 you just have to find a driver for it :) May 30 16:10:30 was told not connect a serial device to it, it will ruin the bbb May 30 16:11:32 i want my bbb to connect to a serial device(rs232) so I can send commands via a terminal software like minicom May 30 16:12:05 just use the usb to serial cable you have and plug it into the USB-A port next to the microSD slot May 30 16:12:13 problem is that, I don't have a mini-usb to female-usb converter where I can connect my usb-to-serial cable May 30 16:12:34 if I'd known that you have zero clue about embedded hardware I would have not mentioned the native UART ports May 30 16:12:41 tbr, i'm worried that it might ruin my bbb like you said earlier May 30 16:12:49 bull* May 30 16:13:07 that was about the _native_ ports May 30 16:13:41 the uart pins on the P8/9 headers are the vunerable ones May 30 16:13:59 i'm looking at it now, i see a big usb female usb where I want to connect my usb-to-serial cable. That's the one right? May 30 16:14:00 don't worry about the Ethernet or USB .. I even think (don't quote me) that the debug header has protection May 30 16:14:06 zumba_addict: forget everything I told you. plug in the usb-to-serial cable. proceed like on regular linux. May 30 16:14:20 tbr .. never. Ever. Assume. lol May 30 16:14:23 oh ok May 30 16:14:39 tbr, another question May 30 16:14:54 zumba_addict: nope. sorry. gotta go. May 30 16:16:54 folks, i'm supplying power to my bbb via the mini-usb beside the ethernet port from my laptop's usb. I don't have 5v ps yet. I also have a network running fine. Now, will it have enough power if I connect my serial device to the female usb on the bbb? May 30 16:17:09 or is it going to be to much? May 30 16:17:35 for a usb-serial .. you're probably ok May 30 16:18:00 cool May 30 16:18:16 i'll try it tonight as i have to attend a graduation May 30 16:18:20 can't wait May 30 16:18:34 thanks veremit May 30 16:18:36 thanks tbr May 30 17:15:59 hi all. I have tried to flash the eMMC of my BBB with the newest image. I have waited now for 2 h - but the lights are still blinking. May 30 17:16:14 Any ideas what went wrong? Sadly I have no micro hdmi adapter.. :( May 30 17:17:48 hey May 30 17:18:01 sla: do you have a USB-to-serial adapter? May 30 17:18:03 how do they blink? May 30 17:18:20 like during normal operation or back and forth like a cylon head? May 30 17:19:02 No - no usb-to-serial adapter :/ only the usb cable May 30 17:19:40 no - there is no pattern like back and forth May 30 17:19:52 one of the LEDs isn' May 30 17:19:56 isnt blinking either May 30 17:20:15 the one next to the ethernet port May 30 17:20:59 then it isn't flashing May 30 17:21:07 did you edit the /boot/uEnv file on the image May 30 17:21:11 how did you flash the microSD ? May 30 17:21:40 no - actually I haven't edited the uEnv file May 30 17:22:00 and foremost, which image did you use May 30 17:22:00 I followed those instructions: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Updating_The_Software#Flashing_the_eMMC May 30 17:22:23 i have used this one: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images -> Debian (BeagleBone, BeagleBone Black - 4GB SD) 2015-03-01 - May 30 17:22:55 then it won't flash May 30 17:23:43 alright - and why? :) May 30 17:23:57 because it will tell it to actually flash May 30 17:24:06 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC May 30 17:24:26 so if you do lsb_release -a it will probably say that it's running the new version May 30 17:24:29 thru USB console May 30 17:24:37 but from the microsd May 30 17:24:45 so go on console to the beaglebone and edit the file May 30 17:24:50 make sure you are booted from the microsd too May 30 17:24:56 to see that it works at all May 30 17:26:12 okay May 30 17:26:19 give me 2 min - i try :) May 30 17:26:23 ok :) May 30 17:26:33 I strugglewd with exactly the same thing recently May 30 17:26:39 didnt understand that I should edit the damn file May 30 17:27:32 when i do lsb_release -a May 30 17:27:45 hehe :D May 30 17:28:10 when i do lsb_release -a it says "no lsb modules are available" and debian 7.8 wheezy May 30 17:29:24 uname -a May 30 17:29:25 then May 30 17:29:31 how can i check from which source the board has booted? May 30 17:29:53 Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone70 #1 SMP Fri Jan 23 02:15:42 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux, May 30 17:29:57 I usually do df -h May 30 17:30:08 then it lists every mounted device May 30 17:30:18 with space left and and capacity May 30 17:30:55 okay - rootfs is 3.5 G big ^^ May 30 17:31:02 definetly the sd card May 30 17:31:16 uname -a May 30 17:31:18 what does that say May 30 17:31:32 Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone70 #1 SMP Fri Jan 23 02:15:42 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux, May 30 17:31:42 looks right May 30 17:32:05 okay May 30 17:32:13 Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone70 #1 SMP Fri Jan 23 02:15:42 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux May 30 17:32:16 same here May 30 17:32:24 ok so edit /boot/uEnv.txt etc May 30 17:32:31 great :) May 30 17:32:35 19:24 < Ad0> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC May 30 17:32:39 thanks - i will do that now May 30 17:32:47 thank you :) May 30 17:33:58 np May 30 17:34:05 and then you do shutdown -s now May 30 17:34:18 and boot it with the boot button pressed etc May 30 17:37:03 are you sure its -s? May 30 17:37:07 nop May 30 17:37:08 sorry May 30 17:37:11 shutdown -h now May 30 17:37:14 :D May 30 17:37:16 what am I thinking May 30 17:37:17 lol May 30 17:38:11 so May 30 17:38:28 next try to flash :) May 30 17:38:36 its doing the nightrider thing :D May 30 17:39:08 yeah cool May 30 17:39:19 that was quite fast May 30 17:39:20 then it's gonna do that for like 10 minutes and I think they all go off or something May 30 17:39:26 only needed 2 mins or so? May 30 17:39:38 that sounds very fast? May 30 17:39:38 okay May 30 17:39:53 what does it do now? May 30 17:40:04 if it's still knightrider then it is in the process of flashing May 30 17:40:11 yeah May 30 17:40:19 still doing the knightrider May 30 17:40:44 13) When all four LEDS are on steady, the eMMC is flashed. May 30 17:40:58 thats what the wiki says May 30 17:41:00 yeah that was not true for me May 30 17:41:03 so I will wait for that :) May 30 17:41:06 for me they all were off May 30 17:41:11 okay May 30 17:41:15 good to know May 30 17:41:21 so either all on or off :P May 30 17:42:20 ;) May 30 17:42:26 i am afk - need something to eat ^^ May 30 17:42:34 i am back soon May 30 18:04:23 so - i am back May 30 18:04:29 and the leds are all off :) May 30 18:04:37 even the whole board seems to be off May 30 18:05:07 maybe it is May 30 18:05:11 pull out the microsd May 30 18:06:50 :D May 30 18:06:53 uname -a => Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone70 #1 SMP Fri Jan 23 02:15:42 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux May 30 18:07:00 cool May 30 18:07:17 thank you very much :) May 30 18:07:20 np May 30 18:07:40 so i can use the sd card for my programs now, right? May 30 18:10:47 right May 30 18:12:47 nice :D May 30 18:12:49 thank you May 30 18:12:53 i am off for today =) May 30 18:13:27 see you May 30 18:14:26 :) see ya May 30 23:07:41 hello there May 30 23:08:02 seems like the 3v3 rail on my bbb died while its been in a box for a few months May 30 23:08:07 wont boot anymore :/ May 30 23:08:13 ideas what i can do? May 30 23:08:43 i understand there is one power chip which seems to be responsible for all the different voltages May 30 23:09:04 shall i just get a new one and change them or are there any better options? May 30 23:09:29 (i got enough experience in soldering that i should be able to do this) May 30 23:44:00 I am pretty sure that is one of the BGA chips on the board. May 31 00:04:01 that qfn thing seems pretty much possible 2 do ... May 31 00:04:19 still open for suggestions though^^ May 31 01:11:40 i'm home! Graduation is done, I can now play with my bbb again :D hehehe May 31 01:25:05 zumba_addict: congrats :) May 31 01:25:17 thank you :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 31 02:59:59 2015