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Jul 04 03:05:11 <DarkSector> So you have angstorm running on it right now?
Jul 04 03:09:47 <Cherokee7700> DarkSector, no, I think I have a failed Debian install on it now
Jul 04 03:10:43 <Cherokee7700> If I plug it into USB without pressing the BOOT button, it does the LED thing where the light moves back and forth
Jul 04 03:11:06 <Cherokee7700> it's my understanding that when the LEDs glow solid or are all off, the flash is done, but mine just blink
Jul 04 03:25:01 <Cherokee7700> DarkSector Yeah, I let it go, and now all the LEDs are blinking in unision again, indicating a flash failure
Jul 04 03:36:53 <Spirilis> how are you powering it
Jul 04 03:37:40 <Spirilis> I have seen flash failures during uSD-to-eMMC flashings fail only when I was powering it via the mini USB port from a PC (500mA max current), moved it to a larger power source (still USB but using a 2.1A cell/tablet charger port this time) and it worked
Jul 04 03:37:49 <Spirilis> barrel jack with 5V/1A or 2A power source would be ideal
Jul 04 03:38:37 <jpastore> hi, I have a BB Black that had an ubuntu image flashed to it. I'm trying to flash a new image over. for some reason the 4 leds are not going solid. is there something I need to do other than turn it on with the boot button held down?
Jul 04 03:40:50 <jpastore> I could've been impatient.
Jul 04 03:40:52 <Cherokee7700> Spirilis: Yeah, I am actually powering it fro ma USB port
Jul 04 03:41:04 <Cherokee7700> I'll try putting it on something beefier
Jul 04 03:50:01 <DarkSector> Yeah use a power supply
Jul 04 03:50:06 <DarkSector> 5V 1.5A
Jul 04 03:54:52 <Cherokee7700> It's still on the USB port, but it's being powered by a USB port connected directly to a SMPS, not a computer. 5V regulated wallwarts are a little hard to find :/
Jul 04 03:55:23 <Cherokee7700> The SMPS should be perfectly fine with pushing 2A
Jul 04 03:59:54 <Cherokee7700> DarkSector Spirilis Yeah, no difference :( They still blink in unison. IS there any way to get some kind of error report out of the thing?
Jul 04 04:00:29 <Cherokee7700> I tried connecting an FTDI cable to the header and I got nothing at 115200@8n1
Jul 04 04:03:12 <DarkSector> You should try and boot off of uSD
Jul 04 04:03:37 <DarkSector> Also, I hope you only have the power cable plugged in
Jul 04 04:03:42 <DarkSector> And nothing else when you try and flash it
Jul 04 04:03:47 <Cherokee7700> Yeah
Jul 04 04:03:52 <Cherokee7700> No ethernet, nothing in GPIO
Jul 04 04:04:08 <DarkSector> And what image are you trying to flash?
Jul 04 04:04:09 <Cherokee7700> I'll try the recommended image again
Jul 04 04:04:18 <Cherokee7700> I was trying the latest Debian flasher image
Jul 04 04:04:25 <DarkSector> Try Ubuntu
Jul 04 04:04:31 <Cherokee7700> BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-lxde-4gb-armhf-2015-03-01-4gb
Jul 04 04:05:20 <DarkSector> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Ubuntu_On_BeagleBone_Black
Jul 04 04:05:29 <DarkSector> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
Jul 04 04:05:36 <Cherokee7700> Thanks, I'll give that image a short
Jul 04 04:05:38 <Cherokee7700> *shot
Jul 04 04:06:29 <Cherokee7700> So, when I hold BOOT and the BBB boots off the uSD card, is it going to modify the uSD card during some install process, or is the image just loadedi n memory?
Jul 04 04:08:42 <DarkSector> I think just memory
Jul 04 04:23:18 <Cherokee7700> Ah ok
Jul 04 04:28:19 <Cherokee7700> DarkSector Spirilis I tried my Debian image again, and it seems to have worked. It got a DHCP lease
Jul 04 04:28:28 <DarkSector> Ah congrats
Jul 04 04:28:34 <DarkSector> Now build us an iron man suit
Jul 04 04:28:36 <DarkSector> kthanks
Jul 04 04:28:53 <Cherokee7700> this is the "live" image, though. not the flasher
Jul 04 04:28:55 <Cherokee7700> but hey, progress
Jul 04 04:28:57 <DarkSector> oh
Jul 04 04:29:12 <DarkSector> Well, at least you know that your bbb isn't bricked
Jul 04 04:29:14 <DarkSector> It works on some level
Jul 04 04:29:16 <Cherokee7700> Yeah, that is nice
Jul 04 04:29:26 <Cherokee7700> Was able to SSH in too
Jul 04 04:32:50 <Cherokee7700> huh, well, this is weird. Even without holding the boot button down, it still boots into Debian
Jul 04 04:33:06 <Cherokee7700> and it remembered my last login across powerdowns
Jul 04 04:37:01 <Cherokee7700> OK, so it will bootup into Debian as long as the uSD card with the Debian image is on it. It seems to have creased a writable FS somewhere, because it's preserving stuff across powerdowns. Anyone know what's going on?
Jul 04 04:37:06 <Cherokee7700> *created
Jul 04 12:57:34 <sat> is beagleboard Xm obsolete
Jul 04 12:58:27 <tbr> you could put it that way.
Jul 04 12:59:48 <sat> which is the closest substitute for beagle board xm
Jul 04 13:05:38 <tbr> depends on the use-case
Jul 04 15:40:49 <bleb> can anyone recommend a wifi dongle that will work with both rpi and bbb? in a different room than the router.
Jul 04 15:44:28 <agmlego> bleb: Have you exhausted the lists for both on elinux.org?
Jul 04 16:41:47 <citylight2> can anyone help me , I flashed the latest jessie debian 8.1 image and have no ssh access via usb0
Jul 04 18:06:15 <citylight2> can anyone please help me with usb networking
Jul 04 18:06:17 <citylight2> ?
Jul 04 18:20:42 <chmod_711> Hi all, I used BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.8-console-armhf-2015-03-01-2gb.img to install wheezy to my BBB. Now I want to install iscsitarget-dkms, and it fails to build the kernel module. But when I try the recommended "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" to install headers, they are not found. What is the solution here?
Jul 04 18:25:21 <chmod_711> edit: found a DEB at http://rcn-ee.net/deb/wheezy-armhf/v3.8.13-bone70/ ... thanks anyway
Jul 04 18:34:47 <veremit> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade I suspect
Jul 04 18:35:03 <veremit> you shouldn't be on wheezy .. or perhaps the Beagle Central image hasn't updated to Jessie yet ...
Jul 04 19:12:33 <chmod_711> veremit: i am trying jessie now. every attempt in wheezy failed!
Jul 04 22:55:32 <boB_K7IQ> Where do you guys think I should look for information on how to put things onto the HDMI screen from the shell or program running from the shell ?
Jul 04 22:55:50 <boB_K7IQ> OR maybe Google search terms ?
Jul 04 22:56:09 <boB_K7IQ> OR other info ?
Jul 04 23:04:41 <boB_K7IQ> Is it possible for instance to simple "echo" a string of characters from the shell to the HDMI output ?
Jul 04 23:04:58 <veremit> no
Jul 04 23:10:30 <boB_K7IQ> OH.  that's too bad.
Jul 04 23:11:18 <boB_K7IQ> OK, how about a complicated echo ? :)   Is there a utility that comes with the BBB or in the list of apps that can do this that you are aware of off hand ?
Jul 04 23:11:42 <boB_K7IQ> I suppose I just have to put something into the HDMI memory map area
Jul 04 23:11:49 <boB_K7IQ> some data that is...
Jul 04 23:12:02 <boB_K7IQ> Or might have to be more complicated and create windows, etc
Jul 04 23:12:06 <boB_K7IQ> first
Jul 04 23:24:13 <veremit> you either need an X server or to write to the framebuffer somehow
Jul 04 23:24:31 <veremit> X will give you windows/shapes .. I'm not sure about direct access to the framebuffer device
Jul 04 23:25:07 <boB_K7IQ> Hmmmm...   OK
Jul 04 23:25:08 <veremit> I'd say neither are trivial :)
Jul 04 23:25:19 <boB_K7IQ> Ever used the shell command,  xrandr  ?
Jul 04 23:25:28 <veremit> yes.. needs a running X server
Jul 04 23:25:50 <veremit> and configured display drivers
Jul 04 23:26:05 <boB_K7IQ> Oh, well.   The X server is evidently running when I turn on my HDMI monitor because it does display  on there
Jul 04 23:26:40 <veremit> quite possibly xinerama extensions too
Jul 04 23:27:06 <boB_K7IQ> xinerama   That's a new term for me but understandable lingo
Jul 04 23:27:15 <boB_K7IQ> I mean, I believe  it
Jul 04 23:27:20 <veremit> if you type 'xrandr' you'll see a list of displays, and resolutions
Jul 04 23:27:27 <boB_K7IQ> right
Jul 04 23:27:35 <veremit> from your graphics driver
Jul 04 23:28:39 <boB_K7IQ> If I type ONLY  xrandr, it says it can't open display.  But the display is up on the HDMI
Jul 04 23:29:22 <veremit> what do you see?
Jul 04 23:30:10 <veremit> I doubt the drivers for the graphics support the x extensions .. certainly I know you have to specify resolutions at boot time, unless it detects via edid or some-such
Jul 04 23:30:12 <boB_K7IQ> on the screen, it shows the dog (Beagle) and beagleboard.org in the lower right corner.  And I created a new file which is showing up on the desktop too
Jul 04 23:30:27 <veremit> I think you need to write an application then
Jul 04 23:31:25 <boB_K7IQ> yes, Maybe so.   Wasn't sure if I had to maybe specify a certain display in the command line but there IS only one display on the beagleboard of course
Jul 04 23:33:18 <boB_K7IQ> nope.  that doesn't appear  to be it.  Will Google some more
Jul 04 23:34:24 <boB_K7IQ> but xrandr   is evidently only for resize and rotate anyway
Jul 04 23:34:50 <veremit> if you write an X app .. it will show up on the display.
Jul 04 23:35:15 <veremit> you'll need a language that supports x libs .. of which there are plenty .. python is a popular starting point
Jul 04 23:38:19 <boB_K7IQ> python I can do and I think that python is already on the BB
Jul 04 23:41:05 <veremit> nodejs is usually installed too
Jul 04 23:44:16 <boB_K7IQ> Java script I imagine
Jul 04 23:44:18 <boB_K7IQ> CooL
Jul 04 23:44:41 <boB_K7IQ> very handy.  I also downloaded the latest sdcard image
Jul 04 23:46:39 <boB_K7IQ> interesting...  Winrar says the disc image isn't valid when I tried to burn the .img file onto a DVD
Jul 04 23:47:01 <boB_K7IQ> Will try ultra iso
Jul 04 23:55:35 <boB_K7IQ> Interesting...  It doesn't like the image either.  Opening it up in WinHex though, shows the different partitions, etc and things look good
Jul 04 23:55:51 <boB_K7IQ> must be some Debian only kind of image ?
Jul 04 23:56:02 <boB_K7IQ> Looking inside it says it's FAT
Jul 04 23:56:31 <boB_K7IQ> Oh...    mksf.fat
Jul 04 23:57:17 <boB_K7IQ> Beaglebone FAT16
Jul 04 23:57:55 <boB_K7IQ> I see in partition one (96 MB  or so) that that partition is not bootable.   Partition 2 might be though.  And partition 2 is like 3 GB large
Jul 05 00:07:05 <boB_K7IQ> Grabbing   Win32DiskImager which should burn the BBB .img to a micro SD card or USB stick
Jul 05 00:11:16 <boB_K7IQ> writing....
Jul 05 00:55:34 <boB_K7IQ> I there a simple application for memory viewing  dissasembly for the BB ?
Jul 05 00:56:00 <boB_K7IQ> hex editor or memory viewer / debugger I should say
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