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Jul 06 09:50:03 <mrpackethead2> ding
Jul 06 09:50:11 <woglinde> dong
Jul 06 09:56:14 <ogra_> boing
Jul 06 09:56:29 <LetoThe2nd> bong...
Jul 06 10:50:24 <av500> blong
Jul 06 12:23:37 <Angelos> hello
Jul 06 12:24:04 <Angelos> I am trying to install clang on my beaglebone black and i cant ... any ideas?
Jul 06 12:24:24 * agmlego consults the crystal ball.
Jul 06 12:24:32 <Angelos> i used the command apt-get install clang-3.5 not working
Jul 06 12:24:44 <Angelos> and also installing the file from git hub
Jul 06 12:25:19 <LetoThe2nd> well probably clang-3.5 just is not in the repositories of the distribution that you are using
Jul 06 12:25:25 <agmlego> Did apt-get give you any error messages?
Jul 06 12:25:38 <LetoThe2nd> in case of debian, see "apt-cache search clang" and judge for yourself
Jul 06 12:27:13 <Angelos> http://pastebin.com/h6LGKdeS
Jul 06 12:28:22 <agmlego> Yeah, so see what versions of clang are available to you.
Jul 06 12:28:26 <Angelos> http://pastebin.com/ctLY4DhX apt cache commanf
Jul 06 12:28:32 <agmlego> Rather than just blindly trying to install 3.5/
Jul 06 12:28:33 <Angelos> *command
Jul 06 12:28:51 <agmlego> Yup, so just do apt-get install clang
Jul 06 12:29:10 <Angelos> I need to install the version of 3.5 at least that is the reason i type it like that
Jul 06 12:29:30 <agmlego> Well, that is wrong.
Jul 06 12:29:49 <LetoThe2nd> Angelos: then either a) pick a distribution that offes the version you want or b) find a repository that provides what you need or 3) compile it by hand
Jul 06 12:29:50 <agmlego> If you absolutely need to have a specific version, use apt-cache policy to see what will be installed.
Jul 06 12:30:10 <agmlego> SUch as: "apt-cache policy clang"
Jul 06 12:30:37 <agmlego> YOu will have a line such as "Candidate: 1:3.5-25"
Jul 06 12:30:54 <agmlego> That indicates that the best/first candidate for installation is version 3.5-25
Jul 06 12:31:13 <agmlego> (this being on my jessie/amd64 server, but the point stands)
Jul 06 12:31:21 <Angelos> http://pastebin.com/JxsRnZfy
Jul 06 12:31:55 <agmlego> OK, so what does that output tell you, Angelos?
Jul 06 12:32:42 <Angelos> That i can install the version 3.0 ??  i am not quite sure
Jul 06 12:33:02 <agmlego> That you have installed the version available to you from your repository.
Jul 06 12:33:21 <agmlego> See how the Installed field has a version number as well, instead of (none)?
Jul 06 12:33:46 <agmlego> So, if you must have a newer version, youy need to find a different repository that has it, or install it from source.
Jul 06 12:34:00 <agmlego> What version of debian are you running?
Jul 06 12:34:07 <Angelos> Yes okk ... can i update this ?
Jul 06 12:34:09 <agmlego> THis may be as simple as upgrading.
Jul 06 12:34:23 <LetoThe2nd> *MAY*
Jul 06 12:34:32 <Angelos> debian wheezy
Jul 06 12:34:39 <agmlego> OK, that is really old.
Jul 06 12:34:46 <agmlego> Please upgrade to jessie at least.
Jul 06 12:35:02 * agmlego waits for the request for exact steps on upgrading.
Jul 06 12:35:08 <Angelos> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone70 #1 SMP Fri Jan 23 02:15:42 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
Jul 06 12:35:24 <agmlego> Angelos: Yes, but what does /etc/debian_version say?
Jul 06 12:37:00 <Angelos> Permission denied
Jul 06 12:37:04 <agmlego> ...
Jul 06 12:37:13 <agmlego> How are you trying to read the file?
Jul 06 12:37:21 <agmlego> I recommend cat for this purpose.
Jul 06 12:38:57 <angelos> Sorry problem with the page
Jul 06 12:39:10 <angelos> i used /etc/debian_version to read it
Jul 06 12:39:25 <agmlego> ...no.
Jul 06 12:39:38 <agmlego> THat is a text file, which you need to read with a program. I suggest cat.
Jul 06 12:40:44 <angelos> 7.8
Jul 06 12:42:11 <angelos> 7.8 isnt wheezy ?
Jul 06 12:43:04 <agmlego> It is.
Jul 06 12:43:07 <agmlego> Just checking.
Jul 06 12:43:23 <agmlego> So, I assume you can Google "how to upgrade debian", yes?
Jul 06 12:43:54 <angelos> yes
Jul 06 12:44:31 <angelos> Thanks a lot for your help
Jul 06 12:44:43 <agmlego> No problem.
Jul 06 12:45:51 <angelos> Just another question: i have to run 1) apt-get update 2) apt-get upgrade and 3) apt-get dist upgrade
Jul 06 12:45:56 <angelos> all of them ?
Jul 06 12:46:01 <agmlego> No.
Jul 06 12:46:08 <agmlego> And you are missing a step first.
Jul 06 12:47:21 <angelos> http://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-debian-linux-system-from-wheezy-to-jessie-stable-release
Jul 06 12:47:36 <angelos> I just read that page
Jul 06 12:47:57 <agmlego> That is a good page.
Jul 06 12:48:12 <agmlego> THere are unnecessary steps, but nothing harmful.
Jul 06 12:48:39 <angelos> i didnt understand what you have said
Jul 06 12:48:56 <agmlego> angelos: Then just blindly follow that guide.
Jul 06 12:49:22 <agmlego> I recommend, though, trying to figure out what each step does as you run it, and determine *why* you are doing it.
Jul 06 12:49:31 <agmlego> You will learn more that way.
Jul 06 12:49:32 <angelos> you said that i was missing a first step
Jul 06 12:50:02 <agmlego> Yes. But the page you linked has the requisite step later on.
Jul 06 12:50:28 <angelos> # sed -i 's/wheezy/jessie/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ??
Jul 06 12:51:46 <agmlego> Yes.
Jul 06 12:52:35 <angelos> Thanks !! I hope i will manage to do it correctly !!
Jul 06 12:53:43 <LetoThe2nd> hint: check that theres a lot of free space on your flash first
Jul 06 12:53:50 <LetoThe2nd> otherwise it will just break
Jul 06 12:54:14 <angelos> how i can check that ?
Jul 06 12:54:16 <agmlego> The upgrade will only take at most 512MB.
Jul 06 12:54:29 <agmlego> angelos: The usual ways to check free space on debian.
Jul 06 12:54:34 <agmlego> Google can tell you.
Jul 06 12:54:52 <LetoThe2nd> agmlego: for a rev a bbb with standard install, that is a *REAL* lot
Jul 06 12:55:36 <angelos> Can i ask a general question as i am new in using BBB
Jul 06 12:55:50 <agmlego> angelos: YOu can, but we may direct you to Google.
Jul 06 12:55:55 <angelos> It is better to have an external SD card always on my BBB ?
Jul 06 12:56:07 <agmlego> It certainly gives you more space.
Jul 06 12:56:25 <agmlego> LetoThe2nd: I generally assume people are not trying to make do with the eMMC.
Jul 06 12:56:46 <LetoThe2nd> agmlego: i generally assume people are trying exactly that ;)
Jul 06 12:56:56 <agmlego> LetoThe2nd: Because honestly, what with reflashing troubles, and space limitations, and all that, a uSD card is the more sensible approach 99.99987% of the time anyway.
Jul 06 12:57:05 * tbr generally throws away all the graphical ui crap and then has lots of space
Jul 06 12:57:11 <agmlego> Just like we assume that people debugging boot issues have a serial adapter.
Jul 06 12:57:17 <angelos> Can i use the SD card that i used in order to flash the BBB ?
Jul 06 12:57:29 <agmlego> Because without it, thye first and only step is to buy a serial adapter.
Jul 06 12:57:34 <agmlego> angelos: Sure.
Jul 06 12:58:05 <angelos> Thanks !!
Jul 06 13:09:53 <angelos> Hello again, i followed all the steps
Jul 06 13:10:05 <angelos> and my debian is still on version 7.8
Jul 06 13:11:50 <agmlego> Really, *all* the steps?
Jul 06 13:13:15 <angelos> Yes, i will do it again ... but i dont understand what is meant by remove unnessary packages
Jul 06 13:13:22 <agmlego> THen ignore it.
Jul 06 13:13:31 <agmlego> Unecessary packages are ones you do not use.
Jul 06 13:13:46 <agmlego> But that means you need to know enough about your system to figure that out.
Jul 06 13:14:22 <agmlego> Also, I doubt very much that you did a full upgrade in all of 10 minutes.
Jul 06 13:43:23 <ljose> Hi, I using Ubuntu 14.04  images for BBB  with G++  4.8.2-16ubuntu4, Everything seems to work fine, but one exception handler is failing to catch a exception, does anybody know if this is a known issue for G++ 4.8 with --disable-sjlj-exceptions?
Jul 06 13:44:19 <agmlego> THat sounds like an Ubuntu/g++ problem, not a beaglebone problem.
Jul 06 13:45:22 <ljose> agmlego: Sure, maybe anybody has hit this bug before
Jul 06 13:46:20 <agmlego> Yes, and you will find more success asking in places specific to the tools, not the hardware.
Jul 06 13:47:16 <ljose> agmlego: I was not aware this was only Hardware related channel
Jul 06 13:49:49 <agmlego> It pretty much is.
Jul 06 14:00:06 <woglinde> hm
Jul 06 14:09:09 <ogra_> mh
Jul 06 14:09:48 <agmlego> yw
Jul 06 17:28:57 <mjgardes> well, it's not that we're trying to limit the discussion topic, but this just happens to be a place where hardware experts hang out
Jul 06 17:29:09 <mjgardes> Other channels will have more software experts
Jul 06 17:33:52 <agmlego> This is true.
Jul 06 18:47:07 <Gipper> Anyone know if there is a 10Gb NIC option for BeagleBone?
Jul 06 18:48:33 <_av500_> there is not
Jul 06 18:48:39 <_av500_> and why would there be?
Jul 06 18:48:47 <_av500_> what would you do with 10GB on the BBB?
Jul 06 18:50:12 <Gipper> network analysis with ntop or similar
Jul 06 18:57:36 <agmlego> I think at the point you are considering doing 10GbE with a 1GHz ARM, you just might possibly be Doing It Wrong(tm).
Jul 06 19:37:28 <mjgardes> bah
Jul 06 19:37:41 <mjgardes> nothings's impossible
Jul 06 19:37:57 <mjgardes> you'll probably have to throw out linux and write your own machine code blob
Jul 06 19:38:26 <mjgardes> and it might catch on fire a little bit
Jul 06 19:38:54 <agmlego> I never said it was impossbile.
Jul 06 19:49:33 <mjgardes> I also didn't say this method wasn't wrong
Jul 06 19:50:03 <djlewis> use an fpga, buffer the data then slowly analysis it ;)
Jul 06 19:56:26 <mjgardes> Yeah, capture and analysis don't have to be simultaneous
Jul 06 19:56:36 <mjgardes> or even on the same device
Jul 06 20:26:17 <_av500_> djlewis: heh
Jul 06 20:34:25 <nyo> Hi, I have a problem setting a GPIO pin as an input, it still put out 3,3v, is this normal?
Jul 06 20:35:29 <agmlego> Is the pullup still enabled?
Jul 06 20:35:59 <nyo> sorry don't know what it is this pullup, I am a newbye
Jul 06 20:36:18 <agmlego> Fortunately, Google knows what an "input pull-up" is.
Jul 06 20:36:30 <nyo> searching thanks
Jul 06 22:42:28 <citylight2> rcn-ee: hi, I have upgraded cwvw, and it now even has a debian packaging
Jul 06 22:43:04 <citylight2> did anyone get a 8188au to serve hostd here?
Jul 07 00:34:41 <n-st> hi, is there any way to load device tree overlays when running the mainline kernel from rcn-ee.com? it doesn't have the patches to include capemgr, so i'm not sure how to do this…
Jul 07 01:50:05 <nickson> Has BBB on-board RTC?
Jul 07 01:50:42 <nickson> Can i use RTC just Back-up battery?
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