**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 08 02:59:58 2015
Jul 08 09:21:23 <wusel> Hi all. :) I am trying to update my BBB Rev C to the latest Debian image. I want to flash it on the eMMC. When I follow the procedure using Win32 Disk Imager to put the debian image on the sd card
Jul 08 09:21:50 <wusel> I cannot find a folder boot and the file uEnv.txt
Jul 08 09:21:56 <wusel> mentioned here http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC
Jul 08 09:22:43 <wusel> whats wrong?
Jul 08 09:22:53 <wusel> I have downloaded the image from here: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Jul 08 09:24:50 <wusel> what I can see is a README.htm, START.htm and stuff like that
Jul 08 09:24:59 <wusel> on the SD card after writing the deabian image on it
Jul 08 09:25:24 <LetoThe2nd> wusel: thats certainly not the boot partition, then
Jul 08 09:25:44 <wusel> LetoThe2nd: what did I wrong?
Jul 08 09:25:57 <LetoThe2nd> wusel: as windows is involved, i don't have the slightest clue
Jul 08 09:26:11 <wusel> I also have ubuntu available
Jul 08 09:27:01 <LetoThe2nd> plus, i really don't see why anyone would need to tinker that file.
Jul 08 09:27:17 <LetoThe2nd> grab the proper flasher image, put it onto card, boot it.
Jul 08 09:27:30 <wusel> just the image?
Jul 08 09:27:40 <wusel> the *.img file?
Jul 08 09:28:20 <LetoThe2nd> of course you shall not copy the file into a filesystem on the sd card.
Jul 08 09:28:39 <LetoThe2nd> on a linux, you would dd it. on windows, no idea.
Jul 08 09:28:47 <wusel> alright
Jul 08 09:28:51 <wusel> I switch to linux
Jul 08 09:28:54 <wusel> give me a sec please
Jul 08 09:28:58 <LetoThe2nd> but no uEnv tinkering is involved as far as i know
Jul 08 09:32:42 <wusel_> i am back
Jul 08 09:33:07 <wusel_> actually now I can see two sd partitions
Jul 08 09:33:35 <wusel_> test ? 1 2 3 ?
Jul 08 09:34:16 <ketul> hello all. Can anyone suggest best IC for testing I2C protocol on BBB ?
Jul 08 09:34:52 <ketul> ADXL345 is good or any other suggestions ?
Jul 08 09:35:49 <LetoThe2nd> wusel_: i repeat, i do not see why any uEnv tinkering should be involved. what keeps you from just getting the image, dd'ing to the card and starting?
Jul 08 09:36:11 <wusel_> I want to use the SD for my programs
Jul 08 09:36:15 <wusel_> and other stuff
Jul 08 09:37:26 <LetoThe2nd> a few minutes ago you were saying that you want to update the emmc.
Jul 08 09:37:29 <wusel_> further I have two BBB and only one SD card
Jul 08 09:37:29 <wusel_> .. :/
Jul 08 09:37:57 <wusel_> yeah - currently the OS on my BBB is angstorm
Jul 08 09:38:01 <wusel_> I want debian on it
Jul 08 09:38:04 <wusel_> but without the SD card
Jul 08 09:38:13 <LetoThe2nd> i don't get the point.
Jul 08 09:38:19 <LetoThe2nd> 1) get image
Jul 08 09:38:24 <LetoThe2nd> 2) put it on sd card
Jul 08 09:38:30 <LetoThe2nd> 3) boot it to flash the emmc
Jul 08 09:38:44 <LetoThe2nd> after that, you can reuse the sd card for whatever you want
Jul 08 09:39:01 <wusel_> that's what I meant :)
Jul 08 09:39:09 <wusel_> that's what I want to do
Jul 08 09:39:14 <LetoThe2nd> so why don't you just do it?
Jul 08 09:39:56 <wusel_> well - the original question was, what I did wrong, since my Windows didn't showed me the boot partition of the SD card. So I could not edit the uEnv.txt file to enable eMMC flasher
Jul 08 09:40:10 <wusel_> Now I am on linux and both partitions were shown
Jul 08 09:40:32 <wusel_> and I could edit the uEnv.txt file in the boot partition
Jul 08 09:40:37 <LetoThe2nd> *sigh* why would you want to edit that file? theres a flasher image that should be properly prepared.
Jul 08 09:41:04 <LetoThe2nd> i think i just said that for the 4th time or so.
Jul 08 09:41:25 <wusel_> where should that magic image be? could not find it?
Jul 08 09:41:31 <wusel_> all links in the wiki are dead
Jul 08 09:41:51 <wusel_> and in the wiki stands To setup the standalone microSD image to automatically flash the eMMC on powerup.  In /boot/uEnv.txt: ..... http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC
Jul 08 09:41:51 <LetoThe2nd> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Releases
Jul 08 09:41:57 <LetoThe2nd> pick whatever you want
Jul 08 09:42:12 <LetoThe2nd> no dead links involved from what i can see
Jul 08 09:42:49 <wusel_> omg - I think my windows is crap
Jul 08 09:42:55 <wusel_> those links didn't work
Jul 08 09:42:58 <LetoThe2nd> only yours? i'm surprised
Jul 08 09:43:07 <wusel_> xD
Jul 08 09:43:11 <wusel_> thanks
Jul 08 10:18:49 <Venu> Hi
Jul 08 13:18:37 <samael> i have at least three BBB from embest that do not boot from uSD while pushing S2. also tried grounding P8.43 while powering on, with no luck. should I open an RMA? any other check to do?
Jul 08 13:19:06 <samael> (also tried with netboot and usb boot, nothing works except the boot from onboard emmc)
Jul 08 13:37:16 <julemand101> samael: ahve you tried to make you onboard emmc unbootable? (by removing the boot loader)
Jul 08 13:38:01 <julemand101> the beaglebone black will try boot on you uSD card if the onboard emmc cannot boot
Jul 08 13:39:48 <samael> julemand101: nice trick. i'll try asap. i guess removing uEnv.txt is rough but enough?
Jul 08 13:40:09 <julemand101> I can check but im sure this does the trick :)
Jul 08 13:40:29 <samael> don't bother, i'll discover soon. thanks for the hint :)
Jul 08 13:40:48 <tbr> I'd nuke MLO
Jul 08 13:44:24 <samael> tbr: where to find it? should i zero the first sectors of the emmc with dd?
Jul 08 13:45:06 <tbr> on the FAT partition. zeroing the beginning of the emmc would work too, obviously
Jul 08 14:23:54 <sla89> hi. does anybody know if there is something newer than arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++4.6.2 out for our bbb?
Jul 08 14:27:49 <woglinde> ????
Jul 08 14:28:02 <woglinde> if you mean on debian wheezy
Jul 08 14:28:03 <woglinde> no
Jul 08 14:28:16 <sla89> damn
Jul 08 14:28:24 <sla89> i am new to the linux world :/
Jul 08 14:28:33 <LetoThe2nd> you can always compile whatever you want ;) but as downloads for x86/x64, linaro has 4.9.2 :)
Jul 08 14:29:03 <ogra_> ubuntu too ;)
Jul 08 14:29:11 <ogra_> (soon switching to 5.0)
Jul 08 14:29:42 <sla89> well my problem is that on ubuntu my arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ version is 4.8.2 and on my bbb its 4.6.3
Jul 08 14:30:02 <ogra_> and why is that a problem ?
Jul 08 14:30:03 <sla89> and now I get the message "/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.19' not found"
Jul 08 14:30:14 <sla89> when I try to run my application on the bb
Jul 08 14:30:24 <sla89> compiling is just fine on the ubuntu machine
Jul 08 14:30:25 <ogra_> ah, thats different ...
Jul 08 14:30:53 <sla89> what can I do? :/
Jul 08 14:30:54 <ogra_> you link against a newer libc ... that has technically nothing to do with the compiler version
Jul 08 14:31:05 <ogra_> you could use a debian chroot on your ubuntu
Jul 08 14:31:34 <sla89> ? :/
Jul 08 14:31:40 <ogra_> that would give you the right libc version
Jul 08 14:32:27 <ogra_> sudo apt-get install qemu-user-static ... then you can use  qemu-debootstrap to build an armhf debian chroot of wheezy
Jul 08 14:32:47 <ogra_> and in there you can build your stuff
Jul 08 14:34:28 <LetoThe2nd> ah, the joys of running native-compile-distros
Jul 08 14:34:59 <sla89> sounds complicated
Jul 08 14:35:48 <sla89> isnt there a way
Jul 08 14:35:54 <sla89> to just install the same gcc
Jul 08 14:35:58 <sla89> that uses the same lib version
Jul 08 14:36:01 <sla89> on my ubuntu?
Jul 08 14:37:38 <LetoThe2nd> why not provide proper build scripts so it uses whatever it finds (read: autotoolize)
Jul 08 14:37:50 <ogra_> sla89, i dont think ubuntu has anythng older than 4.7 in the archive ,,,
Jul 08 14:38:05 <LetoThe2nd> and of course, if you need features that are newer, well then you need a newer version
Jul 08 14:39:07 <sla89> http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/precise/devel/gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabihf
Jul 08 14:39:08 <sla89> ?
Jul 08 14:39:23 <sla89> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/precise/devel/gcc-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabihf
Jul 08 14:39:24 <sla89> sorry
Jul 08 14:41:29 <ogra_> that is for ubuntu 12.04
Jul 08 14:41:45 <ogra_> (and as i said, you want a newer libc ... not just the compiler)
Jul 08 14:42:52 <sla89> why do I want a new libc, when the BBB does not support it? :(
Jul 08 14:43:32 <ogra_> err, sorry, i meant an older one :)
Jul 08 14:44:01 * ogra_ uses ubuntu everywhere ... not used to going backwards :)
Jul 08 14:48:02 <sla89> i will try it :)
Jul 08 14:48:03 <sla89> thanks
Jul 08 14:48:08 * LetoThe2nd would rather suggest to learn how a proper, reproductible build works. be it using OE or whatever mechanisms are en vogue nowadays. (can snappy help here?)
Jul 08 15:10:09 <myself> okay, I know I just recently caught wind of a compute-module based around the beaglebone but minus all the connectors.. and I can't think of the name
Jul 08 15:10:25 <smurray> beaglecore
Jul 08 15:10:36 <myself> aha, thankyou
Jul 08 15:11:03 <smurray> that's the one that's on kickstarter atm
Jul 08 15:11:03 <jkridner> myself: I'm very curious to how well the Land Grid Array works.
Jul 08 15:11:24 <jkridner> I think the mentorel design was similar.
Jul 08 15:11:58 <jkridner> nope, high density connector: http://www.mentorel.com/product/usomiq-am335x/
Jul 08 15:13:41 <myself> personally I hate LGA in general, it's appropriate for high-volume stuff but such a pain to debug.
Jul 08 15:13:46 <smurray> freescale have some modules that look similar, not sure if they use LGA or something else
Jul 08 15:14:27 <myself> The SODIMM-style connector is easier for prototyping, even if you don't do module swapping in the field, you still reap the benefits in the early stages because the pins are easier to probe
Jul 08 15:19:01 <smurray> ah, the new Freescale modules are BGA
Jul 08 15:27:09 <myself> are there any chips in the AM335x family with more than two CAN controllers?
Jul 08 18:24:11 <ljose> What is the default OS image in BBB Rev C?
Jul 08 18:26:50 <_av500_> debian
Jul 08 21:07:11 <azure_> I was curious if Beaglebone Black will have Windows 10 support.  Windows 10 looks to be released at the end of July and we are an Azure cloud partner and were looking for a non-Raspberry PI environment to build Windows 10 off of.
Jul 08 21:08:35 <woglinde> lol
Jul 08 21:08:53 <woglinde> go asked your MS sales person
Jul 08 21:10:39 <MightyMu> Is it officially supported on the Pi?
Jul 08 21:10:59 <woglinde> lol
Jul 08 21:11:35 <woglinde> "hey google" "please search rasberry pi and windows board support package"
Jul 08 21:13:44 <rcn-ee> azure_, "we are an Azure cloud partner" ... maybe you should know that answer???
Jul 08 21:13:54 <azure_> http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/GetStarted.htm is the link I saw official support on Microsoft.
Jul 08 21:14:21 <rcn-ee> azure_, where is the source?
Jul 08 21:15:40 <woglinde> there is no bbb listed
Jul 08 21:16:05 <rcn-ee> azure_, without the microsoft source, we can't help you.. (not that anyone would, as it's microcrap..)
Jul 08 21:16:52 <woglinde> rcn-ee hm
Jul 08 21:17:17 <woglinde> maybe IoT will be not suffer the bad stuff from ce or xp embedded
Jul 08 21:17:47 <woglinde> but why I want azure on a bbb?
Jul 08 21:17:49 <rcn-ee> fat chance. ;)
Jul 08 21:18:01 <woglinde> I would not even install openstack on bbb
Jul 08 22:10:19 <djlewis> ugh. . . w10 on a bbb . . .barely runs on a big PC.
Jul 08 22:11:48 <nima> Hi I run QT Audio App on my BBB but it seems the app couldn't detect my USB Sonud card
Jul 08 22:12:24 <nima> Am I have to do something especial to add my sound card to my QT App?
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