**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 30 02:59:59 2015 Sep 30 03:56:06 can somebody tell me what the current image that is shipping on beagle bone blacks is? Sep 30 03:57:41 I've just received some new ones, and sb_release -da tells me its 7.9 wheezy, but link at the top points to a 7.8 image Sep 30 08:00:23 Hi, i'm writing a driver for the ADC on the BBB, requesting the IRQ 16 for the ADC, using IRQF_SHARED has used in the driver from TI i've a error 22 invalid argument, but if I use IRQF_NO_SUSPEND I can request the IRQ but my handler is never called. Why can I use IRQ SHARED ? it the flag used by the constructor's driver Sep 30 08:07:21 Ok, the bad value came from the last parameter of request irq (pointer to the device), which is not used if it's not an IRQ shared Sep 30 08:46:36 Hi - can anyone tell me where to find a description of Direct Memory Access (DMA) on the BBB? Sep 30 10:22:08 Is the Beagle Board hardware completely open source, as in the CPU itself (like, could I get the verilog of the CPU)? Sep 30 10:25:47 roosky: no, the SoC is not open source Sep 30 10:26:23 the boards satisfy the OSHW definition though, AFAIU Sep 30 10:29:14 Thanks. Do you know of any boards that support a standard unix-like operating system that do have fully open-source hardware? Sep 30 10:29:57 "That may depend on your definition of" "fully open source hardware" Sep 30 10:31:30 If I could the verilog of the entire CPU and implement it myself on a FPGA or etch the transistors myself with just the verilog, then its "open". Sep 30 10:31:56 so you go beyond OSHW, that's fine. Sep 30 10:32:28 I think there are one or two projects that work on such things, and indeed you'll only find it for FPGAs right now Sep 30 10:34:09 Kinda funny that a system can be considered "open hardware" when the entire system is on a chip, and the entire chip is fully closed source :-) Sep 30 10:36:41 open source ICs are still in their infancy Sep 30 10:39:08 Yeah, I know :-( Sep 30 10:39:15 Thanks Sep 30 12:30:05 right .. cos every chip fab wants to publish their IP .. hrm, yeano... Sep 30 12:30:40 unless you're gonna "start up your own silicon fab" .. ain't gonna happen lol Sep 30 12:31:01 fpga's are slow at processing Sep 30 12:35:14 at least the sand on the beach is free and open Sep 30 12:35:35 you can't steal a lot of it though .. even with transporters lol Sep 30 12:36:15 ideology is fine, provided you accept the commercial realities Sep 30 15:07:28 LEON3 is a Sparc CPU licensed under the GPL - http://www.gaisler.com/index.php/products/processors/leon3 Sep 30 18:05:22 Hello gang. Anybody know if the Beaglebone Black's networking cape is still on sale anywhere? The one with 6/8 ethernet ports on top? Sep 30 18:06:54 Nobody ever heard of it? Maybe it was an independent project Sep 30 18:09:17 * vagrantc extols the virtues of patience Sep 30 18:28:11 bogglebone, check out the banana_pi router board .. http://www.banana-pi.com/eacp_view.asp?id=64 Sep 30 19:40:01 There is no chance to get 3d acceleration on BBB running Debian, is there? Sep 30 19:40:48 why not? Sep 30 19:41:12 do you mean at all, or in x-windows? Sep 30 19:41:39 X or at least Qt Quick Sep 30 19:41:51 And of course not with swrast. Sep 30 19:42:31 dunno about X, last I heard it was still not happening, but console worked Sep 30 19:45:58 thurgood_: but console worked only after a lot of fumbling with the TI's driver, correct? Sep 30 19:46:44 I think it's to the point of just using a package manager now Sep 30 19:47:04 with the 'official' wheezy image? what package? Sep 30 19:47:27 wild guess "apt-cache search sgx" Sep 30 19:52:22 tbr: good guess, thanks Sep 30 19:52:28 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#SGX_BeagleBone.2FBeagleBone_Black looks like you do still need to issue a couple of build commands for the user side Sep 30 19:53:06 pretty brief though Sep 30 19:54:49 better than nothing, thanks Sep 30 20:08:30 Strange that modprobe doesn't find the sgx modules after installing linux-image-3.14.53-ti-xenomai-r76 + ti-sgx-es9-modules-3.14.53-ti-xenomai-r76 and rebooting. Manual insmod insert them though. Sep 30 20:08:42 *insert->inserts Sep 30 20:24:39 depmod Sep 30 20:25:04 nope Sep 30 20:25:44 ti-sgx-es9-modules-3.14.53-ti-xenomai-r76 installs the modules to /lib/modules/3.14.53-ti-xenomai-r76/extra/es9.x/ and modprobe doesn't pick them up, not even after depmod -a` Sep 30 20:25:49 in the /lib/modules tree? Sep 30 20:26:08 veremit: ye Sep 30 20:26:10 uname -a matches? Sep 30 20:26:16 yes Sep 30 20:26:26 hmm odd Sep 30 20:27:28 I added a symlink /lib/modules/3.14.53-ti-xenomai-r76/kernel/extra -> /lib/modules/3.14.53-ti-xenomai-r76/extra and the modules are being loaded, but not without the symlink Sep 30 20:28:52 (well, maybe I did `depmod -A`, not `depmod -a`, but I am sure this is handled automatically when installing the kernel and/or by update-initramfs) Sep 30 20:29:09 And anyway, this is just a minor gripe, the bigger think is that I cannot get HDMI to work :/ Sep 30 20:29:33 Works ok with a 22" Phillips monitor, but doesn't work with my 24" DELL Sep 30 20:33:59 When I SSH into BBB and run `DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output HDMI-0 --off`, the monitor powers off and with `xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto` it powers back on, but the screen stays totally blank without any life signs (not even a cursor). Sep 30 20:35:15 Anybody here with experience getting HDMI to work on BBB Debian (excluding the cases where it just worked)? Sep 30 23:04:25 wonder which silicon maker is putting hardware strcmp in their chips Sep 30 23:06:05 such a sad state of affair when the kernel does so much string compares Sep 30 23:44:26 Possible stupid question: Is there a way to embed a wifi stick (ralink based) on the board allowing me to free up the USB port? Oct 01 02:27:23 MiddleMan5 have you done RF design? The short answer is not likely it would require a complete redesign of the board and then a careful qualification of the material on the board. Oct 01 02:28:17 that's just a start. Materials for > 1Ghz are a bit pricey. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 01 02:59:58 2015