**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 28 02:59:58 2015 Oct 28 03:10:30 lxqt ? Oct 28 03:12:56 lxqt? Qt you mean? Oct 28 03:13:01 mhmm Oct 28 03:13:14 the light version .. lxde without gnome :p Oct 28 03:13:15 qt5 Oct 28 03:14:57 Actually I was speaking about the X window manager and support system. Qt is mostly a library and widget set right? Oct 28 03:15:57 well .. that's what I thought .. Oct 28 03:16:17 but you've seen rcn mention the lxqt build for the bbb ... I read the wiki article .. Oct 28 03:17:31 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXDE#Qt_port Oct 28 03:18:06 so yeah .. lxde without gnome kinda Oct 28 03:18:25 one step lighter than xfce Oct 28 03:26:41 hmmm E (enlightenment) has already been used comercially on several systems not sure if yet another adjustable light weight design is "good" or not but I am just a stupid engineer :D I just use the stuff! :D hehehe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_%28software%29) I liked the concept in that you can 'use' what you need of the core without dumping the whole thing in at once. KDE does that really annoying. Gnome Oct 28 03:26:41 has gone nuts with .js scripting. Javascript has HORRIBLE memory management it should NEVER have been used for that but too late now. Everyyone is programming in Js because that's all that's taught in most schools (yes it's true.) Oct 28 03:28:57 Anyhow I'm looking at LXDE interesting too say the least. Definately worth a look. I want a lightweight managers for using the BBB for instruments like multichannel precision volt meters and such. Oct 28 03:35:50 ACK sleep must I Oct 28 03:40:32 *thnk* Zzzzzzzzzzzzz? Oct 28 03:40:44 no I've used lxde on embedded arm .. works ok Oct 28 03:41:04 what adc you using for the voltmeters? Oct 28 03:41:21 I must get a small lcd for my bbb Oct 28 03:42:10 kde is Very bloaty .. unless you want a fancy desktop .. but I will vouch for the editor Kate .. its the bomb. Oct 28 03:43:31 I confess I've got quite used to xfce Oct 28 03:44:20 but some apps just dont seem to have quite enough functionality ..or I haven't found the right ones .. whereas, Kate and Dolphin in kde do work. Oct 28 03:49:06 very much depends what you want to use it for I guess Oct 28 06:14:52 Hello :) debian Jessie on a BBB, my experience is poor so far, no BB-BONE-PRU, having trouble setting USB sound. What are other people's experiences Oct 28 06:18:32 I had no problems with my use cases. Oct 28 06:18:37 which kernel do you run? Oct 28 06:30:04 plus it depends very much of the definition of "poor" Oct 28 06:30:41 e.g. usecase again :) Oct 28 06:35:31 kernel is 4.1.23 Oct 28 06:36:34 right, that might behave a bit different than what you're used to Oct 28 06:37:01 IIRC also the way you talk to the PRUs changed Oct 28 06:37:16 if you want the old way back, install the 3.8.x kernel Oct 28 06:38:26 ag_melbourne: yeah the key point is everything in 4.1.x has changed a lot, from the old custom patches to new stuff based on what finally made it into the mainline kernel.. so some instructions may need adjustment or possibly even changes/fixing/etc Oct 28 06:38:57 yes I am considering going back, I was wanting to install a scipy find-peaks function which needed a later scipy version not supported by the kernel I was using Oct 28 06:40:22 Thanks lathiat, I had made detailed notes for configurations which now have significant errors Oct 28 06:42:12 So, does any one know when a nicely packaged image will be available for the BBB ( like raspbian is for the Pi ) Oct 28 06:42:34 there are plenty of such images Oct 28 06:42:37 for both 3.8 and 4.1 Oct 28 06:43:18 3.8 yes, 4.1? please advise Oct 28 06:44:39 The image I used does not even have the cape overlays installed, it was from the BeagleBoard repository Oct 28 06:50:10 Nice 4.1 kernel images for the BBB anyone? ( console with capes, alsa, wifi, espeak ) Oct 28 06:54:16 there is no 4.1 kernel that would behave exactly like 3.8, as that is what you seem to be asking for. Oct 28 06:56:17 No, there would be no point in that, we all like improvements, I'm getting the impression there is no nicely packaged 4.1 kernel , yet. Oct 28 06:57:12 Nicely packaged=lots of other people have found and overcome the problems I am experiencing Oct 28 06:58:27 So lathiat, can you point me to a 4.1 package as you refered to above? Oct 28 07:07:36 off to have a beer :) Oct 28 07:07:37 linux-image-4.1.10-ti-r24 for example Oct 28 07:08:12 that's the latest -ti image, there's a -ti-rt variant of it also Oct 28 07:08:47 latest bone kernels are are linux-image-4.2.5-bone2 and linux-image-4.1.12-bone-rt-r16 Oct 28 07:09:21 (different pros and cons to the -ti vs -bone kernels, but the latest testing images default to using the -ti kernels and I currently also recommend them) Oct 28 07:10:45 Ooo zmat, thanks, these are images? I dont fancy a cross compile, a bit beyond me Oct 28 07:11:03 those are package names Oct 28 07:11:06 (apt-get install) Oct 28 07:11:39 you can also get a fresh image to flash of course, if you grab the latest testing image it'll presumably have a fairly recent kernel installed Oct 28 07:12:24 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-4.2.5-bone2' Oct 28 07:12:33 did you 'apt-get update' first? Oct 28 07:13:05 and you noticed the part about the -ti images being recommended? :P Oct 28 07:15:16 (btw, as for cross-compiling, e.g. if you'd want to customize the kernel config, with rcn-ee's scripts that a matter of doign ./build_deb.sh and about 10 minutes later (on my hardware) you got packages of your very own kernel) Oct 28 07:16:56 linux-image-4.1.10-ti-r24, apt-get underway Oct 28 07:21:31 thanks zmatt, I had been using r23 and found it very bare bones. Let's see what r24 brings :) Oct 28 07:21:45 bare bones in what sense? Oct 28 07:22:10 r24 is not likely to differ in any significant way from r23 of the same kernel Oct 28 07:23:06 bare bones= no capes installed, no alsa... Oct 28 07:24:04 at present I cannot find how to disable HDMI in favour of the USB sound card I have Oct 28 07:24:19 the cape firmware files are not part of the kernel image Oct 28 07:24:53 I have been spoiled by the BBB offerings Oct 28 07:25:14 you can disable hdmi entirely or hdmi-sound only via uEnv, I think that still works the same as on the 3.8 kernel Oct 28 07:25:25 /boot/uEnv.txt should have comments about that Oct 28 07:26:45 yes it has notes, I've read them and not been able to disable the HDMI Oct 28 07:27:45 # added 28/Oct/2015------------------------------------------------------------------ cape_disable=capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN Oct 28 07:28:01 that should normally do the trick Oct 28 07:28:22 note that you may need to power-cycle to fully disable the HDMI framer since it is reset-insensitive Oct 28 07:28:47 although it shouldn't matter much if it's left enabled Oct 28 07:29:00 other than consuming a little power Oct 28 07:30:23 oh wait that might jsut be for 3.8.x, I see now there's a different dtb for no-HDMI Oct 28 07:30:45 I dunno, this stuff isn't fresh in my mind since I normally use custom DTBs and don't use the capemgr at all Oct 28 07:30:46 aaaah! and grrrr, power off! not tried that! Oct 28 07:31:04 note the power cycling shouldn't really make any functional difference Oct 28 07:31:50 #BeagleBone Black: HDMI (Audio/Video) disabled: Oct 28 07:31:53 dtb=am335x-boneblack-emmc-overlay.dtb Oct 28 07:32:00 Do I need to disable HDMI or can I redirect sound output Oct 28 07:32:44 if you have an usb audio device plugged in it should show up right away, I mean you should be able to use both HDMI audio and usb audio at the same time Oct 28 07:33:45 though my experience with alsa is limited... on desktops I usually use pulseaudio and on BBBs I've so far not done much with audio at all Oct 28 07:33:48 both at the same time, hmm, my issues must be elsewhere Oct 28 07:35:12 thank you very much zmatt, I need to go now Oct 28 10:59:28 is anyone using the a wif usb based on the rtl8192cu as an access point? Oct 28 13:49:13 anyone ? using the rel tek 8192cus as access point? Oct 28 14:01:09 hm, new wifi dongle (WN722N) but still random reboots on 4.1.1. any ideas? also using the serial/can cape and self-powered usb hub for wifi Oct 28 16:46:15 hi i'm looking for a project 'beaglebone with GSM Module " to specify sending and receiving SMS ... also I'm looking information for serial connection between PC and MobilePhone without using minicom Oct 28 17:01:24 <_av500_> use Hyperterm.exe instead Oct 28 17:02:19 <_av500_> OBserveUneo: https://www.google.de/search?q=beaglebone+gsm+module Oct 28 20:26:30 #beagle beaglebone green - drivers apparently installed correctly windows 10 (disabled driver signing). Board appears on file system (can browse fine) and I can ping to 192.168.7.2 but I cannot open a web page at http://192.168.7.2/ Where do I start to look for the problem ? Oct 28 22:25:40 No idea it's been a while since I pluged in a BBB into a windows machine. Oct 28 22:26:29 Anyone have a nice tutorial for building an image for angstrom? It's like all the documentation has evaporated lately. Oct 28 22:40:39 hrm. u-boot v2015.10 fails to boot, but v2015.10-rc4 works fine ... hrm. Oct 28 22:41:01 on the BBB ... anyone know of any issues introduced between those versions? Oct 28 22:41:30 get's a data abort after loading the kernel Oct 28 22:42:08 I plead ignorant? Oct 28 22:42:37 dt or non dt kernel? Oct 28 22:47:49 ds2: dt kernel Oct 28 22:49:02 after the data abort, it resets and tries all over again ... Oct 28 23:13:01 vagrantc: how are you loading the DT? uboot DTB loading? append to kernel? special format image? Oct 28 23:14:00 ds2: u-boot loads the kernel, dtb, and initrd, then boots them with bootz Oct 28 23:17:22 might just have to git bisect it Oct 29 02:23:24 hey guys i have quick question , would this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yiletec-13-3-YL-1303T-1080P-HDMI-Capacitive-Open-Frame-Touch-USB-media-input-/281801007120?hash=item419ca62010:g:pxYAAOSwQPlV-LRP Oct 29 02:23:29 work on the beaglebone black Oct 29 02:23:31 ? Oct 29 02:28:21 ! Oct 29 02:30:04 you should get a picture Oct 29 02:34:16 "Compatible with all computers, DVD players, and games consoles" thats what the manufacturer says... good luck with that :D Oct 29 02:34:48 can yu get a manual from lillyputweb? Oct 29 02:44:25 I sent the seller a message, waiting for him to send the hardware specs such as schematics Oct 29 02:52:27 personally .. I've used these guys .. http://www.chalk-elec.com/?page_id=1280#!/HDMI-interface-LCD-+-touch/c/3094861/offset=0&sort=priceAsc .. and they are pretty well supported Oct 29 02:52:58 we did a project with their 10" display .. straight from LCD pins usng a BBB Oct 29 02:54:05 i need something bigger than 10" Oct 29 02:56:06 do you know any places that sell screens that will work with the BBB that have capacitive touch and are larger than 10" Oct 29 02:56:08 ? Oct 29 02:56:23 look at that page .. Oct 29 02:57:05 I see 14" and 15.6 there Oct 29 02:57:06 i did and the bigger ones are for raspberry only Oct 29 02:57:17 naa .. that's just with the interface Oct 29 02:57:22 RPI is linux just like the BBB Oct 29 02:57:53 although... Oct 29 02:58:10 we did put a LVDS serializer on our board :) so .. you'll need the uHDMI to HDMI converter cable Oct 29 02:58:22 but it works .. we went through exactly the same process Oct 29 02:58:30 usb is usb is usb Oct 29 02:59:05 kernel display parameters won't be needed if edid is workign correctly ..which it was with the chalkboard stuff Oct 29 02:59:11 and by connecting this board will the usb client port be open ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 29 02:59:59 2015