**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 13 02:59:58 2016 Feb 13 10:10:27 orangepi > bbb Feb 13 11:49:39 poffs: https://linux-sunxi.org/GPL_Violations Feb 13 11:49:48 poffs: https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/03/26/allwinner-is-fooling-around-open-source-community/ Feb 13 11:53:31 :O Feb 13 11:54:25 i hate manufacturers that won't provide the uboot source Feb 13 11:54:28 wtf is wrong with them Feb 13 11:55:27 i just bought an ubiquiti networks edgerouter lite and I was planning to put openbsd on it, but I don't even trust it anymore, even with BSD Feb 13 11:55:43 it also uses a proprietary uboot Feb 13 11:58:16 oh at least they actually dumped the uboot source. that's hella better than ubiquiti network. seems the majority of the concerns regarding GPL violations are just legal in nature and don't deal with security. Feb 13 11:58:26 to be fair, it's also hard to be sure secrom isn't doing anything nefarious on the AM335x. (I mostly trust it doesn't because it's very closely related to the DM814x ROM, which they failed to read-protect and I inspected it) Feb 13 11:58:53 poffs: violating the GPL is very different from being licensed under a proprietary license; u-boot is under the GPL so there's no such thing as "proprietary u-boot", only u-boot or u-boot which violates the license, that is, illegal u-boot Feb 13 12:00:03 rah, ubiquiti networks used an "illegal uboot", which introduced some very serious security issues, a few years ago, and while they fixed that security hole, they did not release their code Feb 13 15:31:24 Has anyone flashed or installed Fedora 23 to the BBB eMMC? Not able to find anyting in google search. Feb 13 15:36:43 Is there an ARM version for the BBB (each ARM platform is different) Feb 13 15:36:54 yes Feb 13 15:37:22 If their is an image available it should be almost the same as doing it for Debian. Feb 13 15:37:35 The howto just instructs you to copy the uboot to the emmc but that just boots the BBB from the SD card without holding the boot button. Feb 13 15:52:56 Hey there, I'm working on a "smart car" project did any1 point me away to get OBD data to by BBB? Feb 13 18:45:33 is there a way to force the musb to operate in full-speed mode? Feb 13 18:46:09 here is what i've tried: https://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/linux/f/354/p/489649/1769994#1769994 Feb 13 18:49:43 I've tied unsuccessfully, but I haven't tried very hard (inserting a full-speed hub in a chain was a simpler workaround for me) Feb 13 18:50:18 *tried Feb 13 18:52:28 i'm about to hit the trm, but is the usb1 on the am335x capable of FS mode? Feb 13 18:53:01 of course Feb 13 18:54:27 it's more likely you'd need to consult the musb docs to force the mode (unless you can use the TI-specific debug registers to somehow sabotage the HS negotiation but that seems more far-fetched) Feb 13 18:54:46 "musb docs" == code? : Feb 13 18:54:47 :) Feb 13 18:54:53 i haven't seen such a thing Feb 13 18:54:57 you have Feb 13 18:55:11 I linked to it, you thanked Feb 13 18:55:50 this: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Usbgeneralpage Feb 13 18:55:52 ? Feb 13 18:56:05 no, a pdf from Mentor Graphics Feb 13 18:56:08 oh, you mean the Mentor? Feb 13 18:56:09 aha. Feb 13 18:56:38 yes, i didn't realize that's what you were referring to. Feb 13 18:56:56 ok, looking, peaking, googling, scratching head. Feb 13 18:57:29 there's also some stuff in debugfs on linux, but it didn't work for me Feb 13 18:57:38 yeah, me neither Feb 13 18:57:56 maybe it's only under the ti 3.x kernel? Feb 13 18:58:11 or just broken Feb 13 18:58:30 yah. Feb 13 18:58:32 but that functionality will correspond to stuff documented in the musb pdf (most likely) Feb 13 18:58:51 perhaps it's easily fixable Feb 13 19:00:06 it also states in section 16.1.2 of the trm it supports USB 2.0 peripherals at HS and FS Feb 13 19:00:50 yeah, usb 2 actually always starts out at FS and then switches to HS (and iirc it's also in FS mode while in suspend) Feb 13 19:01:26 also, HS hosts are required to support FS (and I think also LS) Feb 13 19:09:01 one thing that i'm still not clear on: is the drvvbus line an OUTPUT from the SoC (to drive the usb bus 5V) and vbus unused when in host mode, and is the vbus line an INPUT to the SoC (from the usb bus 5V) and drvvbus unused when in device mode Feb 13 19:09:02 ? Feb 13 19:09:43 drvvbus being an output to control a regulator, i.e. Feb 13 19:12:15 https://github.com/VCTLabs/vct-beagleboard-bsp-platform <= in case anyone wants to build for beaglebone Feb 13 19:12:59 needs a bit more description but it works... Feb 13 19:13:25 just choose your layers/config options Feb 13 19:23:58 yates: drvvbus is an output of the SoC to control a power switch, vbus monitors the 5v and is never unused Feb 13 19:24:33 vbus falling below valid level will end the session also in host mode (resulting in a vbus error) Feb 13 22:06:27 Hello :) Just a quick question - I just picked up a BBB the other day & I'm working with it for the first time. How can I put icons for Leafpad and LXTerminal on my desktop for ease of access? Feb 13 22:14:07 there's a directory called Desktop under your home dir - add shortcuts there and they will appear on the desktop Feb 13 22:15:24 or select your item from the main menu and right click on it - Add to Desktop will be an option - look in your desktop dir and there it is Feb 13 22:16:02 Oh I am so dumb! xD Feb 13 22:16:16 Thank you so much! I can't believe I didn't think of that haha :P Feb 13 22:17:11 so glad to help - others have sure helped me Feb 13 22:17:57 :) I'm new to SBCs but so far I absolutely love developing on the BBB Feb 13 22:19:06 Be right back! Feb 14 00:35:32 o/ Feb 14 01:04:07 Hey! :) Best python IDE I can get from the apt repositories? Feb 14 01:09:51 nano ?! :P Feb 14 01:09:55 vim .. ?! Feb 14 01:09:58 lol Feb 14 01:23:46 zmatt: i don't think we have vbus connected.... Feb 14 02:19:20 What is a good resource for enabling HOST->PRU interrupts? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 14 02:59:58 2016