**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 16 02:59:59 2016 Feb 16 04:29:52 no light == no mass? ya' think that would upset the heavenly motions just a bit? Feb 16 04:30:09 hey matt, thanks for that answer in e2e. Feb 16 04:31:23 hey, why "z"matt? why not "a"matt (only one)? or "v"matt (virtual matt)? or... Feb 16 04:31:44 no deep reason Feb 16 04:31:47 and you're welcome Feb 16 04:32:53 i guess I enjoy being boring. i'm, umm, "yates". like, my REAL name! (imagine that...) Feb 16 04:32:55 and !@#&$%@#$&@%@$ I just wanted to delete my TI cookies (in an effort to figure out it wasn't working in Chrome anymore), turns out it also deleted my User CSS rules I carefully crafted to make E2E somewhat more usable again after their "upgrade" Feb 16 04:33:55 who needs cookies. Feb 16 04:33:57 so now everything is bloated to fat-finger touchpad size again.... *deep sigh* -.- Feb 16 04:36:16 so now i have to take a break from the technical world and burn some kiddie videos for the wife... Feb 16 04:36:51 her job is teaching a bunch of spanish kids Feb 16 04:37:20 what's a good linux video burner? Feb 16 04:38:51 e.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hn61z3FlMQ Feb 16 04:40:15 k3b? Feb 16 04:41:02 burner? as in optical media? are those still used? Feb 16 04:41:50 sure. Feb 16 04:42:27 netflix streaming on a 22-inch monitor doesn't compare to dvd on a 65-inch hdtv.. Feb 16 04:42:56 not to mention klipschorns with 200+ watts/channel instead of earbuds... Feb 16 04:43:41 i'm thinking of one of those 4k TVs.. Feb 16 04:43:52 and i still haven't upgraded to blu-ray Feb 16 04:44:32 different use-case than the kids, though. Feb 16 04:45:23 zmatt: i can easily reach 110 dB SPL-C at my listening position. effortlessly. Feb 16 04:48:18 * zmatt has neighbours Feb 16 04:49:11 also, I don't think that sounds very appealing Feb 16 04:51:05 largely depends on the spectrum Feb 16 04:51:31 a lot of low frequency stuff can eat a lot of power and not sound all that loud Feb 16 04:51:45 loud, yes, but not ear-bleeding loud.. Feb 16 04:52:34 i do have the privilege of living in a big house, though. i can remember when i was your age and had to worry about neighbors... ugh! Feb 16 04:52:49 "yeah sonnie, I remember..." Feb 16 04:53:00 * yates stumbles with his cane Feb 16 04:54:27 well when I'm alone at work (I like odd hours) I do take advantage of the lack of neighbours with my music ;) Feb 16 04:55:16 and you didn't mention power, you mentioned C-weighted SPL which should already be compensated :P Feb 16 04:55:16 :) Feb 16 04:55:43 that is a power, albeith filtered to a certain spec Feb 16 04:55:58 so the actual is more... Feb 16 04:56:13 i think C weighting has a little wider spectrum than A Feb 16 04:57:08 it is meant to adjust for equal-loudness contours at high SPL Feb 16 04:57:19 i.e. it is simply fucking loud :P Feb 16 04:57:42 i can go higher. Feb 16 04:57:55 so the cornerhorns deliver 104 dB SPL with 1 watt at 4 feet. do the math with 200 W Feb 16 04:58:24 wanna come hear? Feb 16 04:58:35 I didn't know this was a contest... we make these -> https://dutchdutch.com/professional/pro-fidelity-t15c Feb 16 04:58:37 bring your own towels for the blood... Feb 16 04:58:49 sub to accompany them -> https://dutchdutch.com/professional/pro-fidelity-s18c Feb 16 04:59:51 last time they felt a need to seriously test them I spent some time in the sun outside since there weren't enough ear-protectors around Feb 16 05:00:14 holy &*@((! 1550W continuous?!?!?!?!? Feb 16 05:00:21 x2 Feb 16 05:01:53 loan me a pair?? :) Feb 16 05:01:57 hehe Feb 16 05:02:57 those monsters are seriously unfunny Feb 16 05:03:05 I do like the curved wood though Feb 16 05:08:33 how much? Feb 16 05:08:40 no idea, I don't do sales Feb 16 05:09:31 probably sky-high.. USD10k? Feb 16 05:10:22 no idea, I don't do sales :P but my guess would indeed be "much", not exactly targeted at the consumer market ;) Feb 16 05:11:01 Kaka is sure looking for a lot of confirmation on E2E :P Feb 16 11:05:59 hello Feb 16 11:09:01 can I ask help to somebody? Feb 16 11:09:36 dont ask to ask, ask away and wait Feb 16 11:10:01 ok...thanks! Feb 16 11:10:58 I am a problem about PWM pins...I would like to use 7 (seven) PWM channel in the same time, but I cant... Feb 16 11:11:36 May anybody help me to find a easy solutions in C language? Feb 16 11:12:42 many thanks in advance... Feb 16 11:19:33 why do you say you can't? Feb 16 11:35:17 can you pass me some documentation where it is explained Feb 16 11:35:23 ? Feb 16 11:36:27 I mean....how can I set all PWM channell? Feb 16 11:36:44 in C language... Feb 16 11:46:29 google for the TRM and see whether it's actually possible Feb 16 11:46:41 then read the SRM and the schematics to see where the pins go Feb 16 11:46:52 then read the linux kernel documentations Feb 16 12:23:17 Guys, have a problem: i used LBCO and SBCO for check of values, which i uploaded from C. And, they differ. Feb 16 12:23:32 LBCO r6, C24, r5, 4 ; MOV r3, r6 ; SBCO r3, C24, r4, 4 Feb 16 12:24:12 r5 = 1, r4 = 12. Feb 16 12:32:11 Hm, i found mistake Feb 16 15:20:49 why spi is not showing in U-Boot on am335x ? Feb 16 16:03:56 KotH: iirc there are 13 available (ePWM, eCAP, and dmtimer modules combined, not counting pins unavailable on the expansion header) Feb 16 16:04:18 spi flash sub-system is showing, but I can't interact with spi directly? Feb 16 16:11:49 Help Feb 16 16:12:20 For my project i need 52 GPIOs Feb 16 16:12:44 Does BBB provides 52 GPIOS? Feb 16 16:53:16 Sushil: http://eskimon.fr/beaglebone-black-gpio-interactive-map Feb 16 16:54:22 Where can I find the linux documentation about the beaglobone green? Feb 16 16:56:42 google? Feb 16 17:04:14 Hy all Feb 16 17:04:53 I am a beguiner with beaglebone i want know how to pulldown a pin at boot Feb 16 17:05:22 I already patch my uboot and compile it Feb 16 17:05:55 But the pull down during 2s at boot after the pin is high Feb 16 17:06:08 What is the way please for do it ? Feb 16 17:06:33 I have make a video with my older uboot and new uboot Feb 16 17:07:18 Older uboot https://youtu.be/mW4oIWuVmE0 Feb 16 17:07:46 New uboot Feb 16 17:07:50 https://youtu.be/qwEy0TfmHUc Feb 16 17:08:32 Tou can see in the seconde video at 13sec to 30sec the pin is high Feb 16 17:08:56 How can i do for stay low please ? Feb 16 17:13:52 I'm no expert, but it sounds like loading a Device Tree Overlay at boot time is what you're looking for Feb 16 17:15:09 check this device tree overlay generator: http://kilobaser.com/blog/2014-07-28-beaglebone-black-devicetreeoverlay-generator Feb 16 17:15:14 Ok twoten i verify that thx Feb 16 17:15:30 Wow good ;) Feb 16 17:54:00 Please how to know what overlay is working ? Feb 16 17:55:36 I try cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots Feb 16 17:55:40 Dont work Feb 16 18:00:56 that doesn't work on my Debian install either - it has a /platform/ entry in the path - seek it out with pcmanfm - Feb 16 18:03:11 I am on ssh Feb 16 18:04:42 midnight commander - mc Feb 16 18:18:25 I dont what is it twoten can you explain more please Feb 16 18:19:22 it's a text screen file manager - apt-get install mc Feb 16 18:19:35 Ok thx Feb 16 18:42:40 mu bone_capemgr is in root@kamikaze:/sys/devices/platform/bone_capemgr# Feb 16 18:42:50 buti cant add my overlay Feb 16 18:43:05 anyone can help meplease ? Feb 16 18:52:32 check your slots file - if the universaln cape is loaded it can prvent the priveldged echo from working - unload it then reboot then the echo will work Feb 16 19:42:13 ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG do people not read the F'ing manual anymore? The mailling list is looking like the bad information will finally overtake the amount of good info Feb 16 19:45:05 * KotH hugs ds2 Feb 16 19:45:09 there there there Feb 16 19:57:28 soon gun ownership will be mandatory - we'll take care o them pinkos then! ka-chik! Feb 16 20:03:16 ds2: is forme ? Feb 16 20:03:23 for me * Feb 16 20:23:00 ok thanks Feb 16 20:23:09 for your big help Feb 16 20:51:30 Hi Everyone! Quick question; Is TI BBB kernel actively maintained? I'm trying to build image with Buildroot and beaglebone_defconfig uses kernel from TI. Isn't it better to stick with mainline? Feb 16 20:51:53 mrknife: mainline is good... Feb 16 20:52:06 mrknife: http://github.com/beagleboard/linux is getting regular updates. Feb 16 20:52:24 4.1 versions getting the most love, but 4.4 is getting some too. Feb 16 20:52:39 https://builds.beagleboard.org has our autobuilder. Feb 16 20:52:56 it even has a buildroot builder, but that hasn't been touched in ages and is broken. Feb 16 20:53:08 the Debian images and kernel are under active development. Feb 16 20:53:30 http://github.com/beagleboard/linux pulls from the TI kernel. Feb 16 20:54:09 personally, I'd just pull from the beagleboard kernel rather than try to track the TI kernel, but the TI kernel is getting some love. Feb 16 20:56:38 @jkridner: So much to learn :) Thank you! I will try the one from Github Feb 16 21:09:10 what's the status of u-boot? i seem to recall having to patch it that when building 4.1, but it's been quite a while Feb 16 22:03:10 I'm getting a uboot error: Incorrect magic number (0xffffffff) in EEPROM, Could not get board ID. Feb 16 22:03:39 I have programmed the magic values into the first 12 EEPROM bytes, as per the SRM. Feb 16 22:04:19 The are 0xAA, 0x55, 0x33, EE, and then ascii A335BONE Feb 16 22:04:52 That replaced the previous version, which contained "A335BNLT". Feb 16 22:05:09 But I'm still getting the error from uboot. Feb 16 22:25:00 I've been attempting to do something with a PRU using remoteproc to automagically load the fw in 4.1.15-ti-rt-r43, which is what the "Recommended Debian 8.x" image link was about two weeks ago. This has been an unmitigated nightmare. Feb 16 22:26:13 Loading the code is easy. Any attempt to access anything crashes, like share memory. I'm attempting to access it in a kernel module, and have found at least three ways it could be done, all of which fail. I can't help but think I'm missing something simple that everyone else assumes I know already. Feb 16 22:34:38 I'm thinking it may be a better use of my time to ditch remoteproc and use uio_pruss, but that isn't available on this version for some reason. Feb 16 22:38:53 If I'm going to build uio_pruss, the instructions say I need to have the TI PRUSS Driver enabled when the kernel is build. Is that enabled on this kernel or do I have to build my own to do that? Feb 16 23:02:25 hmmm? Feb 16 23:06:58 I think I fixed the magic number, but now all I get out of uboot is: "U-Boot SPL 2015.01-00001-gb2412df (Jan 29 2015 - 15:01:06)" Feb 16 23:07:09 That's it. No error, no other debug information. Feb 16 23:07:22 I managed to unload pruss_remotproc; lsmod shows "uio" and "uio_pdrv_genirq". Search of the system for any uio_pru* gives a header file, no kernel modul that could be loaded. Feb 16 23:32:02 Oh well. More ball bashing tomorrow. Enjoy... Feb 16 23:34:07 I got it! Feb 16 23:34:17 I needed "BNLT" instead of "BONE" Feb 16 23:34:26 The system reference manual was WRONG! Feb 16 23:43:50 12 MHz fixed our babble. Feb 16 23:44:14 or perhaps "worked around" would be more appropriate than "fixed" Feb 16 23:44:29 it ain't happenin' no mo' Feb 16 23:44:46 \o/ Feb 16 23:44:50 | Feb 16 23:45:02 / \ Feb 16 23:45:12 YAY Feb 16 23:45:48 how melodramatic and palodramatic! Feb 16 23:45:56 palodromatic? Feb 16 23:46:23 _palindromatic_ Feb 16 23:46:35 not knowing anything about what was going on with your babble, what was your frequency before? Feb 16 23:47:03 trev`ychase: i am referring to usb speed. we reduced from high speed (480 MHz) to full speed (12 MHz) Feb 16 23:48:02 ah ok cool, assuming 12MHz is plenty for the application you're doing then? Feb 16 23:48:08 yup Feb 16 23:48:26 by x100 Feb 17 00:09:32 Hey guys! :) Quick question, so I went to try and boot Kali from a microSD card using the beaglebone specific file on their site (7gb, what?!) and when I went to boot from it, I never got past the initial loading screen for the kernel with the linux penguin on top :( What am I missing? Feb 17 00:11:04 New to SBCs but not linux :3 Feb 17 01:19:00 how to write dts file for Polytouch FocalTech FT5x06 driver Feb 17 01:21:33 how to write dts file for touch screen Feb 17 01:22:28 how to wirte device tree file for touch screen (Polytouch FocalTech FT5x06 driver ) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 17 02:59:59 2016