**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 07 02:59:58 2016 Apr 07 05:37:32 os-ports Apr 07 05:37:36 sorry Apr 07 06:45:35 hmm Apr 07 06:45:50 oops Apr 07 11:47:01 * Spidler blipps Apr 07 11:47:09 G'timzeone to you folks Apr 07 12:17:25 hi there, which kernel should I use with Debian on beaglebone black? Apr 07 12:18:11 I'm asking because I see plenty of linux-image-*bone* in the rcn-ee repository, but I have no idea if they have a particular support timeframe etc Apr 07 12:18:37 depends on what you're after Apr 07 12:18:45 should I try to stick with a version which matches debian's, or should I go with the upstream LTS (4.4.x)? How long are thee going to be maintained, and who's behind them? Apr 07 12:19:33 tbr: right now we are using some Geodes with a hacked debian image in our embedded product, and we're considering replacing these with BBBs Apr 07 12:19:34 kernel has been done mostly by RCN, you can see that on github/beaglebone Apr 07 12:20:19 which debian? squeeze? lenny? ;-) Apr 07 12:20:58 tbr: the purpose of these boards (for us) is just a fancy translator between ssh or https and uart :), so we're looking mainly for no experiments, reasonably stable operation with timely security updates when bad things happen Apr 07 12:21:11 tbr: the new stuff is debian 8.something Apr 07 12:21:43 if you're security conscious, you'll probably want to avoid the 3.8 stuff Apr 07 12:22:04 as to what the plans are in following LTS, you'll have to ask RCN Apr 07 12:22:36 tbr: I'm pretty new to both debian and BBB (I'm coming from some HPC stuff with RHEL rebuilds) Apr 07 12:23:07 am I right in assuming that rcn-ee is mainly a one-man show? Apr 07 12:25:19 jkt: Hi, poke me if you have questions. We do pretty much _exactly_ what you do :) Apr 07 12:25:56 jkt: To start with, grab the console version of Debian Jessie (8.x ) and get the 4.1 or 4.4 kernels Apr 07 12:27:25 Spidler: nice Apr 07 12:27:44 Spidler: right now I'm playing with the barefs image Apr 07 12:28:49 jkt: rcn-ee is RCN, which stands for Robert C. Nelson. So yes, it's one person. :) Apr 07 12:29:43 though as you'll notice the kernel is hosted on the official beagleboard repository: https://github.com/beagleboard/linux Apr 07 12:30:28 and if you go with LTS, then even if RCN stops it should be fairly easy to keep going and applying the few patches that will come from upstream Apr 07 12:30:45 the patch-set has gotten fairly slim Apr 07 12:30:57 yeah, well, to be brutally honest, I'm quite sure my boss would prefer us to be free riders Apr 07 12:31:07 and if your use case is as limited as you say, you might get away with just running upstream vanilla Apr 07 12:31:42 it isn't that I cannot build a custom kernel, it's that we would love to contribute somewhere else than in maintaining debs Apr 07 12:31:46 if you're curious, take a look at how small the commits on top of upstream are in those repositories Apr 07 12:31:56 will do, thanks Apr 07 12:32:28 you should be fine to use the official rcn/bb.org 4.4 debs Apr 07 12:32:50 if that ever dries up, doing it yourself as a fallback is not hard. that's what I was trying to convey Apr 07 12:33:02 understood, thanks Apr 07 12:34:02 also BBB is a decent choice, as the AM335x should be around for quite a while. It's an industrial part. Apr 07 12:34:08 hmm did something change about setting up SPI on the BBB? the directions I have aren't working. Apr 07 12:34:44 crond: be more verbose, which kernel version, what fails in particular, etc. Apr 07 12:35:08 echo BB-SPI0-01 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots gives me an error saying that bone_capemgr.* doesn't exist Apr 07 12:35:17 following directions on https://libreboot.org/docs/install/bbb_setup.html Apr 07 12:35:47 I also read some conference slides about using that SoC's or uboot's features for "safe boot", i.e., "if the userspace doesn't say OK in X seconds after a reboot, boot this other thing through a watchdog", which sounds very promising Apr 07 12:35:58 haven't followed recent development, but cape manager was gone for a while. But loading dt overlays should be possible for sure. Apr 07 12:36:15 hmm Apr 07 12:36:55 jkt: watchdog I know, but the "this other thing" is news to me. could be some sort of persistent state though. Apr 07 12:37:08 #u-boot or whatever should know Apr 07 12:45:26 why are there no 4gb console flashers? Apr 07 12:45:29 just 2gb Apr 07 12:46:57 Because it's relatively easy to expand the disk afterwards Apr 07 12:47:14 Spidler, oh, how do I do so? Apr 07 12:48:49 There's a script in /opt/ , git pull on the dir first Apr 07 12:48:56 Resize partition something Apr 07 12:49:18 opt/scripts/tools/grow_partition.sh Apr 07 12:49:35 ah awesome. thanks Apr 07 12:52:10 Spidler: would you happen to know where this (the / partition size) is configured? Apr 07 12:52:14 in the image-builder i mean Apr 07 12:52:16 hi there channel :-) Apr 07 12:52:37 Ionakka: Sorry, no clue :) Apr 07 13:05:18 Hi, quick question, why isn't there any pull-up resistor on the I2C0 bus (board ID eeprom) on the BBB? Apr 07 13:13:37 wild guess: using internal pull-ups Apr 07 13:14:51 http://www.ti.com/product/AM3358/datasheet/terminal_configuration_and_functions?search=gpio#sprs7173199 Apr 07 13:16:37 Seems like it, thank you Apr 07 13:19:48 Speaking of serial devices and kernels, is there any magic needed to get UART2 and UART4 active on t.1+ kernels? Apr 07 13:25:40 With 4.1 and 4.4 I don't get ttyO2, but ttyS3 seems to match. However, I don't get any electrical signal (with oscilloscope) when writing on the bus, which makes me curious about what is wrong Apr 07 13:53:54 hi there channel :-) Apr 07 13:54:33 I'm in openbox desktop but I prefer LXDE Apr 07 13:55:14 how can I start the next boot with LXDE Apr 07 13:57:22 Spidler, got it all working, thanks Apr 07 13:57:35 crond: Excellent. Apr 07 13:58:08 running wheezy 7.9 Apr 07 13:58:18 on BBB Apr 07 13:58:45 Rev A5C Apr 07 13:59:26 now I can set up a bnc on my BBB and never be off of irc. MWAHAHAHAHAH Apr 07 13:59:45 Spidler, can you assist me please Apr 07 14:00:45 dury: Sorry, I have little knowledge on how Debian sets up it's autostarting of desktop environments, much less on an older version of debian Apr 07 14:01:45 my guess is that simply installing lxde ( apt-cache search perhaps?) or perhaps download a jessie image with the desktop by default? Apr 07 14:03:49 I have that image Spidler, but with wheezy goes faster that's what I realize on Rev A5C Apr 07 14:05:27 Then that's your decision, and you get to google for yourself. The good news is that you'll find a lot of resources online to help you, since you're not the first one. "debian boot into lxde" should give you some Apr 07 14:06:32 Spidler, are you on BBB Rev A5C too? Apr 07 14:08:44 I don't run desktops on my BBB's. Apr 07 14:08:57 The ones that run GUI boot directly into openbox + epiphany in fullscreen webapp mode. Apr 07 14:11:06 Spidler, can you make a screenshot to see it please Apr 07 14:13:46 dury: http://imgur.com/5JE7lVz Apr 07 14:14:17 Spidler, really appreciate your effort believe me Apr 07 14:15:06 So, as you see. they just show static pages, nothing fancy Apr 07 14:18:50 Spidler, so are your BBBs 4GB eMMc? Apr 07 14:19:16 Most of them Apr 07 14:19:23 One of those is a 2G one is a 4G Apr 07 14:19:32 Both boot off SDCard Apr 07 14:20:39 so without sdcard then, right? Apr 07 14:21:04 With. As in, running off two kingston 4G cards. Mostly cause we buy those in bulk Apr 07 14:21:14 I've got ~50 BBB's in production in different places Apr 07 14:21:27 Those are just spares that are acting display devices for dashboards Apr 07 14:21:32 All the others run headless mode Apr 07 14:21:50 I am planing on making a "project" for this on the BBB site, and posting generally to the forums, but if anyone is interested in my BBB 4 port hub, here are some pics of it: http://imgur.com/a/lSmDR Apr 07 14:29:42 Has anyone heard of an end of life on the flash memory and the RAM chips from micron? Apr 07 14:52:24 dury: https://github.com/ModioAB/snippets/tree/master/bbb-ansible <-- My ansible scripts to set up the display machines. Apr 07 14:52:39 dury: note that those work only on Jessie or above, with systemd . Apr 07 15:01:32 Spidler, so are also for my BBB? Apr 07 15:04:01 dury: Those playbooks will, when targetted at a Debian system, kill off some of the BBB specifics, and turn them into a simple kiosk with Openbox and fullscreen browser. It will not work on Debian versions older than Jessie Apr 07 15:05:50 so only with wheezy as well then, Spidler Apr 07 15:07:14 Spidler, I mean with wheezy too, is that right? Apr 07 15:09:24 dury: No. Wheezy is older than Jessie, they will not work on Wheezy. Apr 07 15:09:31 Wheezy doesn't have systemd Apr 07 15:09:37 Lucky Wheezy Apr 07 15:09:45 Nah Apr 07 15:09:57 systemd in general is a fucking godsend compared to the previous mess. Apr 07 15:10:20 Doing something "simple" as restarting a service if it crashes before systemd is.... Not plesant Apr 07 15:10:39 Not to mention the bloody pita of a mess that is Debian network configuration. Apr 07 15:11:30 wheezy works better in Rev. A5C Apr 07 15:12:02 You keep saying that, And I keep not understanding how . Apr 07 15:15:29 well jessie is in my emmc only as a console but I boot from sdcard where wheezy is with openbox Apr 07 15:16:06 is pos Apr 07 15:16:11 sorry Apr 07 15:17:46 Spidler: you usually do not need systemd to restart services, other init services could do it as well and there is usually a reason if a daemon crashes. Apr 07 15:17:57 is it possible having jessie in emmc and install x-window-manager in a 32gb sdcard? Apr 07 15:18:01 Spidler: what mess in network config? I liked /e/n/i Apr 07 15:20:20 Humpelstilzchen: Actually, no. Most init systems can't. With sysvinit you either end up messing with inittab to get it hardcoded, or fucking around with daemontools or runit, using an init-system to start a monitor or other init system. Apr 07 15:20:45 Humpelstilzchen: And even then, they can't do such basic things as hold a watchdog vs. the process, to enforce that it's still running. Apr 07 15:21:13 Spidler: Funny you say that most init systems can't while easily naming 2 Apr 07 15:21:28 Try booting a debian system with runit ;P Apr 07 15:21:31 or with daemontools Apr 07 15:21:33 Spidler: have done it Apr 07 15:21:45 Congratulations. Then you know what a fucking _mess_ it is. Apr 07 15:22:11 Spidler, is it possible? what I said_ Apr 07 15:22:18 dury: Yes. Apr 07 15:22:36 Spidler: but primarly because I wanted faster boot, I don't care for automatic restart of processes, actually I hate that Apr 07 15:23:24 Heh. Apr 07 15:23:56 Spidler, how can, sir? I wish I can able to do it Apr 07 15:25:18 fwiw, wheezy did have systemd available, just not the default (and maybe too old a version for many features, although wheezy-backports has a newer version) Apr 07 15:25:39 dury: Traditionally you'd just mount /usr on the sd-card Apr 07 15:26:05 not that i'd recommend wheezy at the moment, as it will soon be out of security support for anything other than x86. Apr 07 15:26:21 vagrantc: Well, those scripts I linked to use a few features that are too new for even the ancient version in Jessie : ) Apr 07 15:27:27 bb right now one minute, please Apr 07 16:32:17 back again :-) Apr 07 16:50:49 I'm trying to build reckless (asynch logging) using debian 8 cross-compiled with *gnueabihf-g++. I keep getting "bad instruction" from the assembler, even with -march=armv7. Searching so far has yielded little, but I assume I'm missing something simple. If someone tossed me a clue that would be cool. Apr 07 17:18:56 Ah. Finally. Dude is including inline assembly which for some reason the search for "xchg" didn't find, but searching for "asm" did. Apr 07 17:20:23 hi there guys I'm doing really my best with my BBB is connected with hdmi to a monitor even to internet by ethernet I haven't got a x-window-manager only console that it booted from eMMC 2gb ram (jessie 8.3) 32gb sdcard plugged. Spidler told me that it's possble to install the GUI in the sdcard. and to be honest no idea how to. beside me it's the BBB screen on console ready to type the proper commands to get my purpose Apr 07 17:21:25 he said to mount /usr on the sdcard Apr 07 17:22:19 I guess I have to mount first the sdcard. is that right? Apr 07 17:24:07 dury: okay, a _basic_ X system fits in less than 2G of space, so you don't really need to partition and use the SDCard. Apr 07 17:26:09 dury: My systems that boot into Xorg uses ~1.2 GiB of space on / Apr 07 17:26:38 Spidler, the thing is that if I boot eMMc there is not GUI Apr 07 17:27:50 dury: is there a reason that you're not booting from your SD-card completely? Apr 07 17:28:50 df -h says / 47% used Apr 07 17:29:09 flash wears out, and sd cards are replaceable where the onboard flash really ins't Apr 07 17:29:20 that's the case for using sdcards Apr 07 17:30:09 /dev/mmcblk1p1 I guess it's emmc isn't it? Apr 07 17:31:58 mmcblk0 is the one it booted from, mmcblk1 is the extra Apr 07 17:32:08 Which one is internal and SDCard depends on how you booted the beagle Apr 07 17:32:14 It's fun like that. Apr 07 17:32:53 my purpose it's to boot lxde with jessie and see how does it run Apr 07 17:32:58 that's all Apr 07 17:34:12 when I type df -h doesn't appear mmcblk0 Apr 07 17:34:32 mmcblk0 is the device mmcblk0p1 is the first partition on the device Apr 07 17:34:38 mmcblk0p2 is the second partition Apr 07 17:34:39 and so on. Apr 07 17:34:45 repeat for mmcblk1 Apr 07 17:36:27 ok, so is it possible to install a gui then?... it will go slow or what? Apr 07 17:36:59 Okay. I might have been going over your head a fair bit, and for that I apologize Apr 07 17:37:41 just want reasonable gui in my BBB running jessie that's all Apr 07 17:37:56 If you have an SDCard, and a card-writer, the _simplest_ way to get a LXQT gui up and running is to take this image: https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2016-04-03/lxqt-4gb/bone-debian-8.4-lxqt-4gb-armhf-2016-04-03-4gb.img.xz Apr 07 17:38:20 THat will give you LXDE, QT version, on an SDCard, and then you can expand the partition to cover the whole card. Apr 07 17:40:53 so burn that image in a sdcard then? 4gb sdcard enough? Apr 07 17:41:11 yep, and yep Apr 07 17:41:19 then plug card in, power cycle Apr 07 17:42:25 you know I really appreciate to be so patient with me .... believe me. to be honest :-) Apr 07 17:45:02 no problem to burn the image in a sdcard :-) Apr 07 17:45:12 easy :-) Apr 07 17:47:02 Spidler, remember that my BBB is Rev. A5C though Apr 07 17:47:37 Except for the amount of flash onboard there isn't that much to differ them. Apr 07 17:47:51 And when you boot from the sdcard, that doesn't matter. Apr 07 17:49:13 lxqt will go a bit slow though... what you think Apr 07 17:49:47 No clue. Never ran LXQT myself. Apr 07 17:50:04 As said, I use mine as stand-alone kiosks, just showing a browser full-screen Apr 07 17:50:46 I put all the setup for that on the repo I linked earlier, it shows all my customizations from "normal" BBB image to get it launched. all software, configuration and all that. Apr 07 17:51:16 It's in the form of Ansible playbooks, which is just text files, even if you don't use ansible, it should be easy to see what they do. Apr 07 17:51:50 For my own use, i remove some cruft, remove the debian user, install apt auto-updates, swap NetworkManager for systemd-networkd, and install the X environment + config Apr 07 17:53:23 so it seems that doesn't take so much hardware resources and goes fast, or what? Apr 07 17:53:51 It's showing a static dashboard, refreshed every 60 seconds :) Apr 07 17:53:59 Noone cares if it goes fast or not then *grin* Apr 07 17:54:36 what you mean "grin"? Apr 07 17:54:54 A smile, a grin, an action-. Apr 07 17:56:15 I see Apr 07 17:56:57 well image already downloaded... time to burn it Apr 07 17:57:59 Spidler, what about if I burn that image in a 32 sdcard? Apr 07 17:59:11 if you do, you'll have to expand the filesystem, but there's a script on there to do that for you. Apr 07 17:59:14 So that will work Apr 07 18:01:29 all right :-) Apr 07 18:08:10 to boot from sdcard hold the button above sdcard reader, right?, Spidler? Apr 07 18:09:43 By default I think it automatically boots from SDCard if it can. Apr 07 18:09:49 Test it! Apr 07 18:10:03 plug in, boot, see if you have 2 gig or 4 gig on / Apr 07 18:11:41 I will.. still burning on sdcard 45% and keep going though Apr 07 18:13:32 anyhow, I'm going afk., tata Apr 07 18:14:55 Spidler, cheerss there thanks indeed :-) Apr 07 18:21:50 Howdy, is there a Beagle Bone which provides 2 stereo audio jacks? Apr 07 18:22:08 ie...4 audio channels? Apr 07 18:24:07 k bye Apr 07 18:27:22 to launch chromium it's slow, though :-( Apr 07 18:28:33 it boots right but launching things it's slow Apr 07 20:08:22 hi, change password beaglebone? Apr 07 20:09:09 what's your public ip? Apr 07 20:09:27 usingnam: "man passwd" Apr 07 20:12:18 como mudar a senha do beaglebone? Apr 07 20:18:36 usingnam: passwd USERNAME Apr 07 21:30:51 just got a BBB and am trying to connect to it through html/ssh from a debian jessie box. i ran the mkudevrule.sh and have rebooted, but i'm unable to ping/html/ssh to 192.168.7.2. "ip link" is showing a eth1 while the usb is plugged in. Apr 07 21:34:36 i got it. the computer side eth1 didn't have an IP address, gave it one - and i can connect now. sorry for the noise. Apr 07 21:52:20 Hey hey, anybody alive and kicking? Apr 07 22:41:50 * zmatt is against kicking usually Apr 07 22:42:59 * crond bleeps. Apr 08 01:50:05 Hello...how do I make a, on a BBB with software, my code run when I add power to the BBB? Apr 08 01:50:28 And yes...I typed "a, my." Sorry. Apr 08 01:50:55 Okay. How can the BBB run the software when it is powered on? Apr 08 01:51:25 i.e. without a user's commands? Apr 08 01:52:30 a? Apr 08 01:53:24 Okay...I want to make my software run when the battery powers the BBB but I do not want to have to type in "python" and the file name. Apr 08 01:53:41 okey Apr 08 01:53:43 cronjob Apr 08 01:53:53 No...not cron. Apr 08 01:54:16 okey what then? Apr 08 01:55:34 Hold please. I will try to explain it better. Apr 08 01:56:48 #!/usr/bin/env supposedly is supposed to run the software when the machine is powered on. Apr 08 01:57:13 I type that bit of info. on the first line of my software. Apr 08 01:57:48 But...I need to type in, on the prompt, chmod to make the file executable. Apr 08 01:59:04 Is that it? Apr 08 01:59:56 what runs the script? Apr 08 02:00:08 how is it started Apr 08 02:00:30 That is it. I thought power started the script with that bit of info. on the first line. Apr 08 02:01:24 no Apr 08 02:01:27 that wont happen Apr 08 02:01:39 since I am using python, I would type !/usr/bin/env python. Apr 08 02:01:50 Oh...dang it. Apr 08 02:01:57 then linux would have to look trough every file on your system on startup, to search for that line Apr 08 02:02:07 Oh. Apr 08 02:02:22 That was my disconnect. Apr 08 02:02:22 that would be kind of stupid :) Apr 08 02:02:26 Yep. Apr 08 02:03:29 So, what would you use to run software when power is added to the board? Apr 08 02:03:48 Besides, python .py or node .js? Apr 08 02:05:18 I would use cronjob Apr 08 02:05:35 but you could also put it in startup script Apr 08 02:05:54 Okay. Oh, what is a startup script? Apr 08 02:06:48 a bash script you put in /etc/init.d Apr 08 02:06:57 https://www.debian-administration.org/article/28/Making_scripts_run_at_boot_time_with_Debian Apr 08 02:07:15 You nailed it. Thank you. I am sorry to bother you. Apr 08 02:07:26 no problem Apr 08 02:09:50 someone asked if there was an easy way. Ha. That is funny. Apr 08 02:10:52 easy way to make startup scripts? Apr 08 02:11:23 YEa. Apr 08 02:12:07 lol yea I see that. well I consider this easy Apr 08 02:12:42 It seems easy. I have to keep reviewing it so I will know. Apr 08 02:12:49 Thank you. Apr 08 02:12:58 np Apr 08 02:13:06 cronjob is another option Apr 08 02:13:34 I have this book on cron. I am look it up now. I forgot how to use it. Apr 08 02:13:39 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-execute-cron-job-after-system-reboot/ Apr 08 02:14:31 Well...the program needs to run when power is applied not rebooted. I am making this R/C mower for fun. Apr 08 02:15:03 reboot, will also mean when you start it Apr 08 02:15:09 on cronjob Apr 08 02:15:21 so whenever the system starts Apr 08 02:15:30 Yep. Apr 08 02:16:09 @reboot python your_py_script.py Apr 08 02:16:33 that will make your python script run whenever the system boots Apr 08 02:17:26 Oh. Apr 08 02:19:07 I dont know if cronjob is installed by default Apr 08 02:19:20 but if it is. you type crontab -e Apr 08 02:19:35 then you can add the commands you want Apr 08 02:20:29 Oh. Apr 08 02:20:31 Okay. Apr 08 02:21:53 I found cron in my book again. Apr 08 02:22:04 cron is for timing I think. Apr 08 02:22:30 also Apr 08 02:22:42 I will stick with that site you showed me for start-up scripts. Apr 08 02:22:49 you can do weekly or hourly or whatever you want jobs Apr 08 02:22:52 also reboot Apr 08 02:23:29 epipe: You say reboot but does this work with the power being applied via battery? Apr 08 02:24:09 @reboot, will run when the system boots Apr 08 02:24:18 meaning it was off right before Apr 08 02:24:21 I got what you were saying earlier. Apr 08 02:25:10 Do you mess with the MotorBridge Cape at all? Apr 08 02:28:00 no Apr 08 02:29:58 Dang...it says it can handle a 12v battery. I have not tested it yet. Apr 08 02:30:04 are you saying, that the system is running on power from an adapter, and switches to battery? Apr 08 02:30:38 No...I am saying I start my bbb from power, i.e. the battery. Apr 08 02:30:44 ok Apr 08 02:30:58 yea, just making sure that cron would work Apr 08 02:31:39 if you for some reason needed a script to run when switching to battery from charger or something, you would have to do something else Apr 08 02:32:10 Augh. So, cron is a way to go. I will have to learn more. I have only started to learn about it. Apr 08 02:32:34 I got the timing part of cron so far only. Apr 08 02:33:29 sometimes you need sudo crontab -e. depends on what your script does Apr 08 02:33:59 Oh. What is the -e again? Apr 08 02:34:47 hmm never tought of that. :D Apr 08 02:34:58 I just remember that command Apr 08 02:35:44 Hey epipe: I just reviewed the page you showed me on start scripts. I just type in /var/lock/"myscript" Apr 08 02:36:14 touch /var/lock/"myscript" Apr 08 02:36:19 Sorry. Apr 08 02:36:24 -e Edit the current crontab using the editor specified by the VISUAL or EDITOR environment vari-ables. variables. Apr 08 02:36:24 ables. The specified editor must edit the file in place; any editor that unlinks the file and Apr 08 02:36:24 recreates it cannot be used. After you exit from the editor, the modified crontab will be Apr 08 02:36:24 installed automatically. Apr 08 02:36:29 whoops Apr 08 02:36:34 https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/crontab.1.html#//apple_ref/doc/man/1/crontab Apr 08 02:36:46 crontab -e to edit, crontab -l to list jobs Apr 08 02:37:16 I just use nano still with cron... Apr 08 02:38:03 yea crontab -e opens the file in nano Apr 08 02:38:11 Oh. Apr 08 02:38:28 or whatever editor you got Apr 08 02:39:03 Augh. Apr 08 02:39:33 Now...here it is. Do I need to power my MotorBridge Cape separately from the BBB? Apr 08 02:40:14 I know the battery runs my motors. The MotorBridge Cape has screw terminals for a battery and motors. Apr 08 02:41:03 I just thought about it. I do not want to brick my bbb. Apr 08 02:42:36 I know... Apr 08 02:42:40 seperately I think Apr 08 02:42:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DQluHh-t6I Apr 08 02:42:58 I will have to use a battery for the motors and then a power source for the BBB. Apr 08 02:45:51 Hhahaah. I just saw that video. Apr 08 02:46:09 I have only understood it by learning from text. With video, it seems easy. Apr 08 02:50:17 Well...I am off. Have fun everyone. Thank you epipe and stt_michael. Apr 08 02:50:35 have fun Apr 08 02:50:50 Thanks. Oh and epipe, thank you for the site on startup scripts. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 08 02:59:58 2016