**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 09 02:59:58 2016
Jun 09 05:33:54 <brainwave> Hey guys, how does one get vga output from a beagle bone green?
Jun 09 05:45:48 <tbr> brainwave: there is no built in functionality for that. You'd need to use an *active* HDMI converter.
Jun 09 12:11:38 <zmatt> tbr: the geren has no hdmi
Jun 09 12:11:46 <zmatt> *green
Jun 09 12:17:47 <tbr> zmatt: ah, right
Jun 09 12:32:47 <citylight2> can anyone tell me how the new beagebone gren wireless supply a hotspot to connect to in order to cnfig it?
Jun 09 13:40:46 <selcuk> hello
Jun 09 13:41:30 <selcuk> I had a question about future of beaglebone black boards
Jun 09 13:42:30 <selcuk> how long will it stay on markt?
Jun 09 13:49:35 <tbr> selcuk: you'll have to inquire with the manufacturer of the specific board you want.
Jun 09 13:51:02 <tbr> but the AM335x is a long term available part from TI and the board is open source hardware. So it should be no big issue to produce boards until the SoC disappears from the market. Maybe some other components might be a bit more tricky to come by, e.g. the hdmi framer or the RAM and eMMC
Jun 09 13:51:24 <tbr> but of those three only the RAM is really required for the board to work
Jun 09 14:31:37 <selcuk> also, even the productors stop producing, we can produce the same board for commercial usage.
Jun 09 14:34:34 <tbr> yes, it's perfectly legal to do that
Jun 09 14:37:19 <selcuk> thank you very much, your answer helped us for planning
Jun 09 23:53:04 <Everkadaver> Hi =)
Jun 09 23:56:25 <Everkadaver> =(
Jun 10 00:13:28 <zmatt> yow
Jun 10 00:19:28 <Everkadaver> Hello
Jun 10 00:37:08 <ayjay> heyHeyhey
Jun 10 00:40:10 <Everkadaver> Is someone here?
Jun 10 00:40:18 <Everkadaver> jejejeje
Jun 10 00:40:21 <zmatt> no. empty. devoid of life.
Jun 10 00:40:51 <Everkadaver> =(
Jun 10 00:40:59 <zmatt> ;P
Jun 10 00:41:10 <Everkadaver> hahaha ok
Jun 10 00:41:15 <Everkadaver> But, i need help =(
Jun 10 00:42:00 <zmatt> then I'll teach you a trick:  just explain your problem / ask your question, and be patient.
Jun 10 00:42:29 <josh98> is this like the weird tricks advertised on the web?
Jun 10 00:42:29 <zmatt> activity levels vary, people are in different timezones, or have things to do, but quite a few people occasionally glance at the channel
Jun 10 00:42:51 <zmatt> most of them aren't going to reply to "Hi"
Jun 10 00:43:24 <Everkadaver> okay, thanks.. Thanks for all
Jun 10 00:44:38 <Everkadaver> Sorry if my english is not perfect. I'm doing a robotic project with my beaglebone black, and I have a connection problem
Jun 10 00:45:18 <Everkadaver> I can only connect via ssh, using USB and Ethernet
Jun 10 00:45:48 <ayJAY> thats the opposite of a problem
Jun 10 00:46:05 <Everkadaver> but, when I want to connect in putty only with USB, Putty says "Connection Refused"
Jun 10 00:46:21 <ayJAY> doesn't putty use ssh????
Jun 10 00:46:47 <Everkadaver> yes, I'm using ssh
Jun 10 00:46:51 <zmatt> sounds like the "using USB and ethernet" means you're just powering via USB and ssh'ing via ethernet
Jun 10 00:47:01 <zmatt> but usb-networking isn't working
Jun 10 00:47:24 <Everkadaver> yes
Jun 10 00:47:32 <Everkadaver> that's the problem
Jun 10 00:47:58 <Everkadaver> USB + Ethernet = Connection Ok
Jun 10 00:48:10 <Everkadaver> Only USB = Connection Refused
Jun 10 00:48:22 <ayJAY>  oh yeah i can't connect via ssh over USB either, tbh
Jun 10 00:48:23 <zmatt> if you have ethernet available, I'd hardly call that a problem.  usb networking is a hassle, especially on mac or windows
Jun 10 00:48:50 <ayJAY> i can with the 2gb image that uses DNSmasq but when i use the new images it doesn't work
Jun 10 00:49:04 <ayJAY> unless i connect with a 2gb first and then connect with the new image
Jun 10 00:49:20 <ayJAY> everkadaver: are you using linux on your desktop?>
Jun 10 00:49:35 <zmatt> putty typically indicates windows
Jun 10 00:49:43 <ayJAY> good oint
Jun 10 00:49:49 <ayJAY> is it ipconfig in windows?
Jun 10 00:49:51 <Everkadaver> no. I'm using windows, but I have a virtual Machine with Linux
Jun 10 00:50:45 <ayJAY> i dont know much about windows but sometimes it works if you manually set the IP in linux with ifconfig usb0 192.168.7.2 (on the desltop)
Jun 10 00:50:46 <Everkadaver> ipconfig? It works on windows haha
Jun 10 00:51:26 <Everkadaver> ifconfig usb0 192.168.7.2.. Only this?
Jun 10 00:51:34 <zmatt> also, the "not working" also usually indicates not linux... out of the four different "ethernet"-over-USB protocols (RNDIS, ECM, EEM, NCM), linux supports all four out of the box, mac only supports ECM, windows only RNDIS and moreover needs a "driver"
Jun 10 00:51:47 <ayJAY> okay well it might be different in windows, and i use usb0 because i checked "ifconfig" first and saw that
Jun 10 00:52:00 <Everkadaver> mmm
Jun 10 00:52:01 <zmatt> ayJAY: that should normally never be needed
Jun 10 00:52:06 <Everkadaver> =(
Jun 10 00:52:21 <ayJAY> zmatt: i know but i'm talking about a fresh install, i've tried 7.9, 8.2, 8.3, 8.4 and that's whow it is
Jun 10 00:52:27 <ayJAY> and i haven't had time to debug
Jun 10 00:52:38 <zmatt> ayJAY: normally it should serve an ip via dhcp
Jun 10 00:52:50 <zmatt> hence would by default with a typical network manager
Jun 10 00:52:53 <zmatt> *work by default
Jun 10 00:53:02 <zmatt> Everkadaver: does it show up as a network interface at all?
Jun 10 00:53:39 <Everkadaver> mmm
Jun 10 00:54:49 <zmatt> it should show up as a network interface.  if not, you probably need to install the "driver" (which is afaik just a text file telling windows to use its own f*cking built-in driver for its own proprietary protocol... asshats)
Jun 10 00:54:53 <Everkadaver> sorry, I don't understand u.. English is a bit hard to me
Jun 10 00:54:59 <zmatt> sorry
Jun 10 00:55:28 <ayJAY> everkadaver: type ipconfig in command promt and put it in pastebin
Jun 10 00:55:43 <ayJAY> pastebin.com
Jun 10 00:55:51 <Everkadaver> jajaja zmatt now Iunderstand
Jun 10 00:56:01 <Everkadaver> ayJAY
Jun 10 00:56:04 <Everkadaver> ok
Jun 10 00:56:33 <Everkadaver> http://pastebin.com/aHwHqdyN
Jun 10 00:57:25 <ayJAY> oh wait thats from ur linux vm?
Jun 10 00:57:33 <ayJAY> and you already ran the command i suggested?
Jun 10 00:58:52 <zmatt> jkridner: btw, the link to ESR's smart-questions needs to be changed from https to http... the site is refusing https connections
Jun 10 00:59:24 <Everkadaver> ayJAY i'm only ran ipconfig on Putty
Jun 10 00:59:54 <Everkadaver> ayJAY. Sorry.. I typed ifconfig, not ipconfig
Jun 10 01:00:20 <zmatt> you changed the networking config on the beaglebone?  that was not intended, nor a good idea
Jun 10 01:00:30 <Everkadaver> ipconfig says "command not found"
Jun 10 01:01:02 <Everkadaver> zmatt.. I only installed Ubuntu, but I don't changed anything
Jun 10 01:01:05 <zmatt> ayJAY meant on windows
Jun 10 01:01:21 <zmatt> oh, you installed an unusual system... that's also good info to have
Jun 10 01:01:32 <Everkadaver> jaja yes.. Sorry
Jun 10 01:01:42 <ayJAY> oh man Everkadever, i don't thin i can help you, miy configure doesn't work
Jun 10 01:01:49 <ayJAY> i just use ethernet and was going to work on the USB later
Jun 10 01:01:53 <Everkadaver> I'm learning by a manual and in the manual are using Ubuntu
Jun 10 01:02:17 <Everkadaver> ayJAY no problem.. Thanks for all
Jun 10 01:02:50 <ayJAY> sorry i couldn't help more
Jun 10 01:03:21 <Everkadaver> no problem =), but I have another question
Jun 10 01:03:23 <zmatt> Everkadaver: the standard images are debian, not ubuntu...
Jun 10 01:03:47 <zmatt> in any case, the 'ipconfig' command is for windows, not for the beaglebone
Jun 10 01:03:58 <zmatt> it would still be useful to see its output
Jun 10 01:04:21 <Everkadaver> zmatt.. You're right man
Jun 10 01:05:24 <Everkadaver> http://pastebin.com/e7Hwap05
Jun 10 01:05:49 <zmatt> ok, so it looks like it is showing up
Jun 10 01:05:52 <zmatt> as "Ethernet 3"
Jun 10 01:05:55 <ayJAY> adaptador de ethernet!
Jun 10 01:06:16 <ayJAY> i love spanish
Jun 10 01:06:40 <Everkadaver> jajaja
Jun 10 01:06:57 <Everkadaver> no one speak spanish here =(
Jun 10 01:07:11 <ayJAY> yo puedo hablar un pocito espanol pero no mui buen
Jun 10 01:07:26 <zmatt> and you can't connect to 192.168.7.2 using putty?
Jun 10 01:07:35 <Everkadaver> ayJAY, no te preocupes. Gracias por la ayuda
Jun 10 01:07:37 <zmatt> since it looks like it *should* work fine
Jun 10 01:07:48 <ayJAY> no hay problemo
Jun 10 01:08:05 <ayJAY> everkadever, can you try "ping"?
Jun 10 01:08:06 <Everkadaver> zmatt I'm only can connect with the 7.2 when I have Usb + Ethernet connecte on BBB
Jun 10 01:09:13 <zmatt> oh wait, or is "Ethernet 3" actually your real ethernet?
Jun 10 01:09:34 <Everkadaver> ayJAY: Now I'm working on the BBB.. The problem is that I want to work in Beaglebone only using USB connection, not Ethernet + USB
Jun 10 01:10:41 <zmatt> hm no your actual lan is using 192.168.0.0/24 ... ok.. this is weird
Jun 10 01:10:44 <Everkadaver> Ethernet 3 is the Ethernet connected on Beaglebone.. I guess
Jun 10 01:10:47 <ayJAY> maybe everkadaver accepted an ssh key and then flashed the image?
Jun 10 01:10:59 <zmatt> since it looks very much like you are connected via usb
Jun 10 01:11:02 <zmatt> rather than ethernet
Jun 10 01:11:36 <Everkadaver> I'm really confused
Jun 10 01:11:40 <zmatt> can you try in putty:  echo $SSH_CONNECTION
Jun 10 01:11:40 <Everkadaver> hahaha
Jun 10 01:12:03 <Everkadaver> 192.168.7.1 54696 192.168.7.2 22
Jun 10 01:12:19 <zmatt> ok, you absolutely *are* connected via usb
Jun 10 01:12:52 <zmatt> you're saying that if you pull ethernet out of the beaglebone that the putty connection no longer works?
Jun 10 01:13:18 <Everkadaver> yes
Jun 10 01:13:28 <Everkadaver> exactly
Jun 10 01:13:39 <ayJAY> 0_0
Jun 10 01:14:01 <Everkadaver> hahaha
Jun 10 01:14:10 <Everkadaver> it's so weird
Jun 10 01:15:28 <zmatt> ok, I'm puzzled too so let's just a few random things... can you try on the beaglebone: ip route
Jun 10 01:16:57 <Everkadaver> how can I do this?
Jun 10 01:17:02 <Everkadaver> D:
Jun 10 01:17:04 <zmatt> type it in putty
Jun 10 01:17:20 <Everkadaver> default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.26 192.168.7.0/30 dev usb0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.7.2
Jun 10 01:18:11 <zmatt> please next time use pastebin, this makes it very hard to read
Jun 10 01:18:19 <zmatt> but, nothing out of the ordinary there either
Jun 10 01:18:59 <Everkadaver> Sorry
Jun 10 01:20:37 <zmatt> I don't know... maybe ubuntu is doing something really funky with network config in reaction to ethernet being unplugged
Jun 10 01:22:32 <Everkadaver> instead of ethernet, I wanna use an Wifi Module Usb for connection
Jun 10 01:22:59 <zmatt> you'd need to check the network config while ethernet is unplugged... if you're lucky the beaglebone is also showing up as usb serial port and you can use that to investigate, otherwise you'd need a debug console cable (something I'd recommend you get anyway if you don't have one yet)
Jun 10 01:23:15 <zmatt> that's very very different from the sort of usb networking you're doing right now
Jun 10 01:23:38 <zmatt> I have no experience with wifi on a beaglebone
Jun 10 01:24:10 <Everkadaver> I'll buy the debug console cable
Jun 10 01:25:13 <Everkadaver> thanks for all, anyway zmatt
Jun 10 01:25:39 <zmatt> it's a useful thing to have, some problems are nearly impossible to diagnose without one (e.g. if you get it in a state where it fails to boot)
Jun 10 01:26:32 <Everkadaver> then the debug cable is really useful
Jun 10 01:26:55 <Everkadaver> I need to learn more about Beaglebone
Jun 10 01:27:00 <Everkadaver> thanks
Jun 10 01:27:19 <zmatt> I would also seriously suggest trying the latest official debian jessie image instead of ubuntu... I have no idea how the ubuntu images for beaglebone are set up, I think most people here don't
Jun 10 01:27:39 <zmatt> this makes it hard for me to guess what could be wrong
Jun 10 01:29:18 <Everkadaver> I have 2 BBlack.. I will install the latest Debian image in one of them
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