**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 15 02:59:58 2016 Jun 15 13:29:10 hai Jun 15 13:29:28 when will Beaglebone X15 Jun 15 13:44:04 what quit ....... why???? Jun 15 14:01:55 dhivakar: https://dictionaryeyes.wordpress.com/2012/08/15/the-question-mark/ Jun 15 14:25:01 I've got a beaglebone with current debian (kernel 4.4). I've managed to connect spi slaves to spidev1.0 and spidev2.0, however spidev1.1 and spidev2.1 don't work Jun 15 14:25:38 data gets sent out on the spi bus, but no pin gets used as chip select Jun 15 18:11:27 wondering if someone can help me locate 2014 Beagle Boards for a customer of mine Jun 15 18:47:54 just wondering if anyone would know where i could get 500 pcs of 2014 beagle board black Jun 15 18:48:22 why 2014 ones. Jun 15 18:48:27 out of curiosity Jun 15 18:52:41 good vintage, excellent flavor Jun 15 18:52:54 not really sure Jun 15 18:53:08 lol I thought that mean 2014 units. Jun 15 18:53:12 there very specific about it though Jun 15 18:54:10 sent me a picture with specific UL. Newark tells me made in 2014 Jun 15 18:54:47 a specific pcb revision would be more useful to specify Jun 15 18:55:59 does E229342 or SS-3 94V-0 mean anything Jun 15 18:56:10 not to me Jun 15 18:56:13 I have a picture of the back of the board Jun 15 19:02:41 I think the real question is: Element14 or CCo Jun 15 19:05:03 I think the real question is: why? Jun 15 19:06:43 Customers. meh. Jun 15 19:15:13 Ragnorok: unfortunately there are limits to how long one can run a customer-free business :P Jun 15 19:16:55 Tried element 14 and not sure who CCo is Jun 15 19:18:10 element14 and circuitco are the two manufacturers of the BBB Jun 15 19:18:10 hi, I am trying to make uio_pruss work on linux-ti 4.4 (day two). Can someone here confirm or deny that this patch: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel/am33x-v4.4/patches/pru_uio/0001-Making-the-uio-pruss-driver-work.patch is all what is needed in terms of kernel modification for uio_pruss to wok? Jun 15 19:19:04 zmatt: True, but still. Demands are often incomprehensible, like must be a 2014 BBB. What can you do? Jun 15 19:19:05 I am now getting stuck at "[ 11.968109] pruss_uio 4a300000.pruss: No children" Jun 15 19:19:31 i will try circuitco Jun 15 19:19:48 maciejjo: based on name alone, I would suspect that the entire patches/pru_uio dir is relevant Jun 15 19:20:05 zmatt: this is only patch there Jun 15 19:20:11 ok, then yes Jun 15 19:20:23 have you also made the necessary changes to the device tree? Jun 15 19:20:34 yes Jun 15 19:20:44 iirc they are rather different for pru_uio vs remoteproc Jun 15 19:21:13 I ditched remoteproc, added the version from the patch Jun 15 19:21:35 actually patch added it for me, I just needed to delete remoteproc node Jun 15 19:21:46 this error was not present until I configured pinctrl for PRU Jun 15 19:22:10 maciejjo: Woah. Kernel modifications? That's pretty intense. Jun 15 19:22:22 circuitco seems to be able to help me...thanks for the info Jun 15 19:22:24 Ragnorok: no it's not :P Jun 15 19:22:46 Well not in and of itself, but it seems like a lot to get uio_pruss to work. Jun 15 19:23:07 It must be a 4.4 thing. Jun 15 19:23:12 not really, since it's a nice self-contained patch Jun 15 19:23:26 which he took from the 4.4-bone tree Jun 15 19:23:50 yes the patch is nice and easy, but I would be nicer if it worked Jun 15 19:23:59 hehe Jun 15 19:24:00 Then again I'm using a rcn distro that may have it in there arleady, so I'm unaware of the need. Jun 15 19:24:20 Ragnorok: the -bone kernels do, the -ti kernels don't Jun 15 19:24:32 Aha! That explains it. Jun 15 19:24:39 I see it tries to read children of DT node and if there are none, it exits with ENODEV Jun 15 19:24:55 but I did not add any child nodes to pruss Jun 15 19:25:50 then evidently your DT doesn't match what uio_pruss is expecting Jun 15 19:26:14 How would I go about collecting data from a sensor connected via Bluetooth Low Energy? Jun 15 19:28:04 Guest93204: that question is entirely non-beaglebone-specific... you may want to see if there's any irc channel / forum / mailing list for whatever bluetooth stack you are using Jun 15 20:09:13 hi how does the rpi 3 compare to beagle bone? Jun 15 20:10:24 Which one. There's what, four, five? Jun 15 20:10:43 well I think people still generally mean the black Jun 15 20:11:05 in any case, the core processor is the same in all cases, and it's quite different from the one on the rpi Jun 15 20:12:11 I would also expect a rather trivial search to reveal much. Jun 15 20:12:31 the family of broadcom SoCs used on the pis are secretive and have heavy emphasis on video and graphics (the boot cpu is actually the gpu) Jun 15 20:12:49 the am335x are well-documented industrial processors with heavy emphasis on I/O Jun 15 20:13:04 hi sorry i mean beaglebone black Jun 15 20:13:15 GPU? That strikes me as messed up. Jun 15 20:13:42 Ragnorok: the arm subsystem is stuck onto the side of the main VideoCore SoC Jun 15 20:13:59 Ragnorok: it's booted up as auxiliary Jun 15 20:15:10 I understand. It just strikes me as messed up, treate the ARM like a co-processor. (shrug) Obviously it works. Jun 15 20:15:53 that is however also why they could easily swap the arm11 out for a quad a7 Jun 15 20:15:55 Ragnorok, zmatt hi ,sorry am noob, dunno if you guys replying to me lol. In case you are, i am talking about raspberry pi 3 vs beagle bone black rev A6 (trying to get it second hand). The beaglebone is bit old so i wonder how the new rpi stacks up I/O wise Jun 15 20:16:14 nedR: the rpi is the same across all versions except for the arm core(s) Jun 15 20:17:04 zmatt thanks for reply, so then the beagle still much better for hardware i/o stuff? lights and motors and such? Jun 15 20:18:05 I would generally expect so yes Jun 15 20:18:44 the broadcom stuff is mostly aimed at things like smartphones or set-top boxes Jun 15 20:18:59 ah ok thanks. Also is the community and ecosystem for beagle still strong? Jun 15 20:19:28 am in india too, so worried about sourcing components would be hard for beagle or not Jun 15 20:20:06 I have no idea how strong it is compared to the rpi, but I'm pretty sure it's still lively enough, the BBB is also being used and integrated into a lot of applications Jun 15 20:20:19 I've seen plenty of people here coming from inda Jun 15 20:20:23 *india Jun 15 20:20:36 and I'm not sure what you mean by "sourcing components for beagle" Jun 15 20:20:48 The consensus here is the BBB is good for control and the rPi is good for multimedia, in general. I'm sure either could be used for the other, but that's sort of the design goal for them. Jun 15 20:22:43 Ah ok. i was worried about the availability of pins on RPI. Also I dunno how to process https://beagleboard.org/blog/2015-02-05-raspberry-pi-2/ but it gives me the impression that beagle has lot more going for it control-wise. Dunno if that was good marketting on their part though :) Jun 15 20:23:24 it's not just marketing... there's control stuff on the BBB like the PWMSS subsystems and the PRU subsystem that really have no equivalent on the rpi Jun 15 20:25:21 good to know. thanks. yeah, by components i meant like for eg: rpi will have more expansion boards tailor-made for it, and it can use arduino shields and stuff. Dunno if similar stuff is easily available/possible with beagle Jun 15 20:26:35 dunno, we tend to make our own boards to plug into the BBB custom for the particular application Jun 15 20:26:45 There are "capes". Most here roll their own afaik. Jun 15 20:27:55 ah ok. I am just noob. trying to get started on hw tinkering, not like you badasses :) so rolling my own stuff might take a while :) Jun 15 20:29:30 another benefit of the bbb is that the design is open and the components are things you can actually buy, which means that availability should not become a problem any time soon, and various parties are making BBB-derivatives (like the beaglebone enhanced) Jun 15 20:29:47 the rpi is a different story... the broadcom SoC is simply not available to anyone else Jun 15 20:30:07 nor is any real documentation of it Jun 15 20:31:09 that is true. Although some of that might be mitigated by larger community? dunno. Still I think beaglebone is more suited for the kind of stuff i wanna try. Jun 15 20:33:03 zmatt, Ragnorok thanks for your help :) Now i need to go and haggle on olx (the indian craiglist) and hope i dont get ripped off :D Jun 15 20:34:32 One is happy to be of service. Good luck! Jun 15 20:37:16 It looks like libconfig is avialable for the BBB, perhaps libconfig9 is the one to use? Jun 15 20:37:59 The latest source download is 1.5 though. This strikes me as odd. Jun 15 22:27:22 Hi, does the beagleboard support IEEE1588 protocol. it is a precision time protocol. Jun 15 22:56:19 hey does the BBB have an FTDI chip on the microusb port, where I can have it identify itself as a serial port? Jun 15 22:58:55 no Jun 15 22:58:59 only the BBW does Jun 15 22:59:13 also the BBB doesn't have a microusb port Jun 15 22:59:30 err, miniusb Jun 15 22:59:52 Anyway, thank you for the response, it's appreciated Jun 15 23:00:31 there are other variants that do have a microusb Jun 15 23:02:07 Right, I understand. I always confuse those two. Jun 15 23:02:31 By the way, should there be a link to 8.5 on https://beagleboard.org/latest-images ? Jun 15 23:02:47 I found links elsewhere, but I think that should be updated. Jun 15 23:40:43 are there descriptions for each of these anywhere? https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb.org-overlays/tree/master/src/arm **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 16 02:59:58 2016