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Jul 02 09:40:21 <zmatt> oh wow seeed really designed the bbgw in a stupid way
Jul 02 09:42:17 <zmatt> sacrificed ethernet, but didn't actually reuse those pins to provide the sdio+uart+mcasp pins needed for the wireless chipset (which conveniently are available as mux options on the ethernet pins), instead they sacrificed even more pins of P8
Jul 02 09:43:15 <zmatt> which also means they needed level shifters to the 1.8V of the wireless chip, while if they had used the ethernet pins they could have powered vddhv5 at 1.8v instead
Jul 02 09:43:30 <zmatt> morons
Jul 02 09:58:16 <veremit> haha
Jul 02 16:54:04 <Ragnorok> It *is* Seeed.  I've never considered them to be ... desirable.
Jul 02 16:56:20 <zmatt> yes the bbg already didn't do much good for my esteem for them, but the bbgw is a new low point among bb-derivatives
Jul 02 17:06:36 <KotH> zmatt: stupidity prevails!
Jul 02 17:06:57 <veremit> stupidity--
Jul 02 18:02:51 <Ragnorok> I'm confused.  Is that stupdity getting better or worse?  (grin)
Jul 02 19:02:35 <StephaneCharette> Am I looking at the right place for the most recent BBGW image when I look at this:
Jul 02 19:02:35 <StephaneCharette> http://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2016-06-19/seeed-iot/BBGW-blank-debian-8.5-seeed-iot-armhf-2016-06-19-4gb.img.xz
Jul 02 19:04:26 <StephaneCharette> and a related question:
Jul 02 19:04:44 <StephaneCharette> the most recent Ubuntu image I can find is this one:  http://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/2016-06-09/flasher/BBB-eMMC-flasher-ubuntu-16.04-console-armhf-2016-06-09-2gb.img.xz
Jul 02 19:05:15 <StephaneCharette> but from the name "BBB" I'm guessing this is for BBB and doesn't have the necessary changes for BBGW.  Is that a correct assumption?
Jul 02 19:05:26 <StephaneCharette> Is there a Ubuntu image for the BBGW?
Jul 02 19:16:15 <Ragnorok> I would expect anything Seeed does to be unique to Seeed and likely not well known here.  Not saying you shouldn't ask, just setting expectation.
Jul 02 19:18:56 <tbr> you'll have to ask rcn, haven't seen him here in a long while
Jul 02 19:19:04 <tbr> probably better on the google group thing
Jul 02 19:19:58 <tbr> I'd recommend to stick with the debian image, much better maintained usually
Jul 02 19:32:17 <StephaneCharette> Is #beaglebone a better place than #beagle for BBG questions?
Jul 02 19:32:54 <StephaneCharette> 27 people in that group.  Not sure of the difference between the two groups.
Jul 02 19:35:22 <tbr> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beagleboard
Jul 02 19:35:25 <Ragnorok> Me either.
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