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Dec 27 03:56:02 <fjdksl888> so, new to beaglebone. background - I've been a network engineer for 20 years. got my BBB wireless connected, network performance is *abysmal*
Dec 27 03:56:51 <fjdksl888> pings from the wifi access point are anywhere from 20ms to 1000ms, to be charitable
Dec 27 03:57:32 <fjdksl888> the network is healthy. i haven't looked deep yet but anyone had experience with terrible BBB net performance?
Dec 27 04:25:04 <fjdksl888> meh, enough. i'm going with a microcontroller with mqtt client
Dec 27 04:26:37 <mistawright> your missing out on a great board
Dec 27 04:26:49 <mistawright> if you dont want it send it to me. ill pay for shipping
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Dec 28 21:17:27 <raiz> it just keeps printing a bunch of 'C's :/
Dec 28 21:21:28 <vagrantc> raiz: that suggests it failed to find the (early stage) bootloader
Dec 28 21:22:17 <raiz> where did you find this info? I'm trying to find an actual documentation for the board, but all I get is this: http://beagleboard.org/getting-started
Dec 28 21:22:17 <vagrantc> i'm not positive, but it may be trying to boot from microSD rather than eMMC
Dec 28 21:22:42 <vagrantc> experience over several years now...
Dec 28 21:22:48 <raiz> oh
Dec 28 21:23:16 <raiz> is there any way I can boot from usb drive or just flash it from usb drive? because I can't use sdcard with it
Dec 28 21:23:24 <vagrantc> if the eMMC boot gets messed up, you'll get that ... i suspect pressing S2 was basically the "boot" button
Dec 28 21:24:00 <vagrantc> i don't recall if u-boot supports loading off of USB ... it didn't some years ago
Dec 28 21:24:17 <raiz> there is usbboot option in u-boot, but it doesn't seem to work
Dec 28 21:24:29 <vagrantc> i'm fairly sure u-boot itself can't be loaded off of USB ... but you *might* be able to load the kernel/initrd/dtb from USB ...
Dec 28 21:24:47 <raiz> dtb?
Dec 28 21:25:00 <vagrantc> device-tree
Dec 28 21:25:51 <vagrantc> it's loosely speaking, a description of the hardware you're booting in a way so that you can use a single kernel with multiple boards.
Dec 28 21:26:40 <raiz> let me guess, zimage is the kernel, and u-boot.img is the initrd?
Dec 28 21:27:11 <vagrantc> u-boot.img is the bootloader
Dec 28 21:27:19 <vagrantc> zimage is probably the kernel, sure.
Dec 28 21:27:42 <raiz> there is uimage too
Dec 28 21:28:31 <vagrantc> uimage is a kernel with some headers and checksums
Dec 28 21:29:26 <raiz> alright :/ so how do I boot now
Dec 28 21:31:24 <raiz> I mean... what's the equivalent of grub's "kernel" and "initrd" commands
Dec 28 21:34:33 <diycookies> hey
Dec 28 21:36:06 <vagrantc> raiz: basically, reboot without pressing the S2 button, hit a key before it autoboots, and then you'll need to probe around a bit
Dec 28 21:36:16 <vagrantc> raiz: there's no way you can use a microSD instead?
Dec 28 21:36:28 <vagrantc> raiz: because then it would "just work"
Dec 28 21:36:30 <raiz> I'm alrready in the uboot prompt :)
Dec 28 21:36:45 <vagrantc> raiz: usb info
Dec 28 21:36:52 <vagrantc> see if it recognizes your usb disk
Dec 28 21:37:00 <raiz> 1: Mass Storage,  USB Revision 2.0
Dec 28 21:37:00 <raiz>  - SanDisk Cruzer Blade 4C530001320201115502
Dec 28 21:37:03 <raiz> yes it does
Dec 28 21:37:18 <raiz> I did: usb start
Dec 28 21:37:48 <vagrantc> ok, ls usb 0:1 ...
Dec 28 21:38:08 <vagrantc> well, presuming that's the right device/partition
Dec 28 21:38:10 <raiz> yeah, that's the right partition where the zimage and uimage are
Dec 28 21:38:15 <vagrantc> ok...
Dec 28 21:38:31 <vagrantc> load usb 0:1 $kernel_addr_r uimage
Dec 28 21:38:43 <vagrantc> load usb 0:1 $fdt_addr_r $fdtfile
Dec 28 21:39:05 <vagrantc> load usb 0:1 $ramdisk_addr_r initrd.gz (or whatever it's called)
Dec 28 21:39:14 <vagrantc> setenv bootargs console=$console
Dec 28 21:39:41 <vagrantc> bootm $kernel_addr_r $ramdisk_addr_r:$filesize $fdt_addr_r
Dec 28 21:39:44 <diycookies> can I ask a question about the bbb wireless
Dec 28 21:39:47 <vagrantc> ok, you might want to just use the zimage
Dec 28 21:40:00 <vagrantc> diycookies: go ahead and ask, wait paitently for a response...
Dec 28 21:40:21 <raiz> vagrantc: where did you get these variables?
Dec 28 21:40:56 <diycookies> is it possible to use the bbb wireless as a router?
Dec 28 21:41:08 <vagrantc> raiz: should be defined in u-boot
Dec 28 21:41:40 <vagrantc> raiz: also documented in various README files in the u-boot sources
Dec 28 21:42:13 <vagrantc> raiz: since you've got zimage ... load zimage instead of uimage, and use "bootz $kernel_addr_r ..." instead of bootm
Dec 28 21:42:41 <vagrantc> raiz: also, if there's a boot.scr file or something similar ... you might be able to:
Dec 28 21:42:58 <vagrantc> raiz: load usb 0:1 $loadaddr boot.scr ; source $loadaddr
Dec 28 21:46:19 <diycookies> Can I use BBB wifi tutorials directly for the BBB wireless?
Dec 28 21:46:56 <raiz> "vagrantc | load usb 0:1 $ramdisk_addr_r initrd.gz (or whatever it's called)"
Dec 28 21:47:03 <raiz> ^ there is no initrd?
Dec 28 21:48:48 <vagrantc> raiz: it might be named any number of things...
Dec 28 21:49:09 <raiz> hold on...
Dec 28 21:49:12 <raiz>    103272   mlo
Dec 28 21:49:12 <raiz>    365128   u-boot.img
Dec 28 21:49:12 <raiz>             dtbs/
Dec 28 21:49:12 <raiz>   2052760   zimage
Dec 28 21:49:12 <raiz>   2052824   uimage
Dec 28 21:49:13 <raiz>       179   uenv.txt
Dec 28 21:49:34 <vagrantc> ok, then load out the load of the ramdisk ...
Dec 28 21:49:44 <vagrantc> bootz $kernel_addr_r - $ramdisk_addr_r
Dec 28 21:49:48 <vagrantc> oops
Dec 28 21:49:53 <vagrantc> bootz $kernel_addr_r - $fdt_addr_r
Dec 28 21:50:02 <vagrantc> uenv.txt
Dec 28 21:50:48 <vagrantc> raiz: you might want to look at uenv.txt and edit it ... that may have comments about how to configure the image you have for various different boot methods
Dec 28 21:51:06 <raiz> oh, I'll take a look at it
Dec 28 21:51:21 <vagrantc> might have to load that manually, though, since it's on usb and not the usual boot media
Dec 28 21:51:43 <ig88> Yo I can ping 8.8.8.8 from bbone but not www.google.com so obviously some funkiness with DNS.
Dec 28 21:51:46 <vagrantc> alternately, you might try: setenv boot_targets usb0
Dec 28 21:52:16 <vagrantc> raiz: er ... bootcmd_usb0
Dec 28 21:52:19 <vagrantc> gah.
Dec 28 21:52:30 <vagrantc> raiz: run bootcmd_usb0
Dec 28 21:52:51 <vagrantc> might not exist, but that would do what you want if the version of u-boot you have is configured to support it
Dec 28 21:53:24 <raiz> nope, not supported
Dec 28 21:53:48 <vagrantc> oh well
Dec 28 21:53:58 <vagrantc> you could also recompile u-boot to do what you want :)
Dec 28 21:54:28 <raiz> ohh god no! I just wanted to unbrick my x200 and flash libreboot on it, why do I have to deal with all this bbb stuff :(
Dec 28 21:54:33 <vagrantc> since it obviously supports loading off of USB ... you just need some helper bits to simply manual configuration
Dec 28 21:55:05 <vagrantc> raiz: well, you could get some blackbox flasher that costs a pretty penny instead
Dec 28 21:55:26 <vagrantc> i just want to fly a rocket to the moon!
Dec 28 21:56:05 <raiz> blackbox flasher?
Dec 28 21:56:53 <vagrantc> e.g. some proprietary device that does what you want
Dec 28 21:57:11 <vagrantc> but then how will you know your libreboot is pure? :)
Dec 28 21:57:14 <raiz> no, I can't because there is no documentation on doing such a thing with it
Dec 28 22:00:18 <raiz> fuck me, this thing never works
Dec 28 22:01:43 <raiz> anyway, thank you for your help, vagrantc
Dec 28 22:02:15 <Guest33784> can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.com from bbone black
Dec 28 22:02:32 <Guest33784> set up resolv.conf so not sure why dns is still not properly working
Dec 28 22:02:42 <Guest33784> Anyone able to help?
Dec 28 22:03:08 <vagrantc> good luck raiz...
Dec 28 22:29:38 <Guest33784> anybody there to help?
Dec 28 22:32:16 <vagrantc> Guest33784: ask questions, wait paitiently...
Dec 28 22:32:30 <vagrantc> easier to respond to specific questions
Dec 28 22:54:48 <Guest33784> vagrantc I asked questions man
Dec 28 22:56:31 <vagrantc> pfft
Dec 28 23:18:33 <needHelp> DNS is not working on BBone Black.
Dec 28 23:18:40 <Guest78817> da fuk?
Dec 28 23:19:00 <Guest78817> Yo this is bullshit -NickServ- You failed to identify in time for the nickname NeedHelp
Dec 28 23:19:12 <Guest78817> Fuck you
Dec 28 23:23:16 <ig88> Hi everybody
Dec 28 23:26:48 <ig88> Anybody know how to configure DNS so I can do 'ping www.google.com' on the Beagle Bone Black?
Dec 28 23:37:32 <KotH> ig88: man nsswitch.conf
Dec 28 23:37:37 <KotH> ig88: man resolv.conf
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Dec 28 23:41:19 <ig88> KotH I've added nameserver 8.8.8.8 to resolv.conf
Dec 28 23:41:51 <ig88> Also have run /sbin/route add default gw 192.168.7.1
Dec 28 23:43:02 <ig88> Don't see how nsswitch.conf is relevant
Dec 28 23:44:13 <KotH> meh.. this ban thing doesnt work on webclients
Dec 28 23:44:27 <KotH> ig88: then read again :)
Dec 28 23:45:37 <KotH> ig88: also learn patience
Dec 28 23:46:03 <ig88> Maybe someone can help me that's not a troll and can be a bit more specific
Dec 28 23:48:56 <KotH> i doubt it
Dec 28 23:49:16 <KotH> everyone sane has left for holidays
Dec 28 23:49:55 <KotH> beside, the only ones who can answer your questions here are the trolls
Dec 28 23:50:17 <ig88> Nobody on here has ever answered one of my questions. Fact.
Dec 28 23:50:30 <ig88> I always end up doing it myself.
Dec 28 23:52:45 <KotH> uhmm.. i just answered your question
Dec 28 23:52:54 <KotH> just a mere 15 minutes ago
Dec 28 23:54:23 <ig88> You monkey you said the equivalent of 'man *'
Dec 28 23:54:42 <ig88> You basically said 'import beaglebone' and you're good to go
Dec 28 23:56:23 <KotH> er...i told you to read two manpages. both relevant to what you asked
Dec 28 23:56:33 <KotH> i didnt ask you to read all manpages out there
Dec 28 23:56:43 <ig88> This guy
Dec 28 23:56:59 <KotH> and i would never tell you to "import beaglebone"... if anything it would be "use beaglebone;"
Dec 28 23:57:02 <ig88> You're clearly not familiar with the issue
Dec 28 23:57:18 <ig88> so let someone else help me instead. thnx
Dec 28 23:57:19 <KotH> if you think so
Dec 28 23:57:25 <KotH> well.. have a nice day then
Dec 28 23:58:34 <KotH> ig88: but a little advice before i leave: you should not insult op... not everyone is as forgiving as i am... actually most op aren't
Dec 29 00:00:05 <ig88> who gives a shit man. Like I said nobody one here has ever been able to help. I might as well start my own channel to help people out
Dec 29 00:06:30 <vagrantc> ig88: does your ISP block access to the DNS ports? some ISPs only want you to use their DNS...
Dec 29 00:07:50 <vagrantc> i think there are also tools to basically do the equivalent for traceroute/ping with arbitrary protocols... might see fi those reveal anything
Dec 29 00:08:35 <veremit> is your host PC (Assuming you're bridging) running a dns forward or bridge/etc...
Dec 29 00:08:55 <ig88> vagrantc: I can ping 8.8.8.8 but not google.com. That's the issue right now. I'm bridging yes
Dec 29 00:09:19 <vagrantc> does google.com resolve to an ip address?
Dec 29 00:09:39 <vagrantc> and can you ping that ip address...
Dec 29 00:11:32 <ig88> vagrantc: you mean 'host www.google.com'?
Dec 29 00:11:36 <veremit> so you can ping the google dns .. have you put nameserver 8.8.8.8 in yoru /etc/resolv.conf?
Dec 29 00:11:39 <ig88> don't have nslookup
Dec 29 00:12:02 <ig88> veremit: yes
Dec 29 00:12:17 <veremit> whats your 'route' command say?
Dec 29 00:13:16 <ig88> route -n gives:
Dec 29 00:13:52 <ig88> 0.0.0.0 129.168.7.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0
Dec 29 00:14:27 <ig88> 192.168.7.0 0 0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 usb0
Dec 29 00:15:10 <ig88> missing period for the second address second line
Dec 29 00:15:17 <veremit> noted
Dec 29 00:15:18 <ig88> my b
Dec 29 00:16:03 <veremit> I'm not sure how it can 'see' the 129.168 net from 192.168.7......
Dec 29 00:16:05 <ig88> shit second address first line should be 192.168.7.1
Dec 29 00:16:19 <ig88> my b again
Dec 29 00:16:20 <veremit> ah thats better
Dec 29 00:17:43 <ig88> any diff between mine and yours?
Dec 29 00:22:44 <vagrantc> ig88: sure, 'host www.google.com' or whatever ... does it return an ip address
Dec 29 00:23:09 <ig88> No
Dec 29 00:23:17 <ig88> times out
Dec 29 00:23:18 <vagrantc> well, that's your problem then, no DNS
Dec 29 00:23:33 <vagrantc> host www.google.com 8.8.8.8 ??
Dec 29 00:23:57 <ig88> nope again
Dec 29 00:24:11 <vagrantc> something's blocking DNS traffic, then
Dec 29 00:24:25 <vagrantc> if you can ping 8.8.8.8, but you can get DNS from it...
Dec 29 00:24:29 <vagrantc> can't get...
Dec 29 00:24:44 <vagrantc> anyways... good luck
Dec 29 00:24:46 * vagrantc heads out
Dec 29 00:24:48 * vagrantc waves
Dec 29 00:26:22 <ig88> I was afraid of that vagrantc
Dec 29 00:26:26 <ig88> Thanks for the help guys
Dec 29 01:00:13 <tlab_> ig88
Dec 29 01:02:17 <tlab_> ig88, if your using ethernet over usb, try this: http://travis-lab.blogspot.com/2012/02/getting-on-beaglebone-on-internet-using.html
Dec 29 01:08:00 <tlab> if your host pc is linux, you may have to do some setting up on that end too
Dec 29 01:08:33 <tlab> my instructions assume a linux host, or so it seems
Dec 29 01:08:40 <tlab> been awhile since I posted it
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