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Apr 23 03:55:14 <ozzloy> i am plugging my beaglebone blue into my debian laptop via micro usb and not seeing it on the laptop
Apr 23 03:55:21 <ozzloy> it lights up and does a heartbeat
Apr 23 03:55:45 <ozzloy> the beaglebone blue lights up and looks like it goes through a boot process, then starts a heartbeat
Apr 23 03:55:54 <ozzloy> do i need to hold a button while booting?
Apr 23 03:56:49 <zmatt> it sounds like it booted up normally, hence I'd expect it should show up
Apr 23 03:57:07 <zmatt> but I'm really not sure what exactly the default setup is nowadays
Apr 23 03:57:32 <ozzloy> i see no microsd card
Apr 23 03:58:37 <ozzloy> i also don't see it in bluetooth
Apr 23 03:59:08 <ozzloy> o shoot, i gtg
Apr 23 03:59:13 <zmatt> does it maybe show up as wireless access point?
Apr 23 03:59:24 <ozzloy> oh, i'll check that real quick
Apr 23 03:59:45 <ozzloy> yep, there it is
Apr 23 03:59:54 <zmatt> though, I think it should still show up via usb as well, you might want to try reflashing it with the latest firmware
Apr 23 04:00:04 <ozzloy> or by coincidence someone has set up an AP named "BeagleBone-8A55
Apr 23 04:00:18 <ozzloy> how am i going to reflash if i can't connect to it?
Apr 23 04:01:16 <zmatt> you write a flasher card and boot it up from that
Apr 23 04:02:07 <ozzloy> heh,
Apr 23 04:02:23 <ozzloy> default pw "BeagleBone"
Apr 23 04:02:32 <zmatt> very secure
Apr 23 04:02:40 <ozzloy> why even bother, i wonder
Apr 23 04:02:46 <ozzloy> anywho, i gtg
Apr 23 04:02:50 <ozzloy> thanks zmatt !
Apr 23 04:02:54 <zmatt> does it still accept ssh with username "root" and no password? :P
Apr 23 04:03:02 <ozzloy> idk
Apr 23 04:03:15 <ozzloy> i'll check that and other things tomorrow
Apr 23 04:03:20 <zmatt> good luck
Apr 23 05:15:12 <chatter29> hey guys
Apr 23 05:15:13 <chatter29> allah is doing
Apr 23 05:15:18 <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
Apr 23 05:15:20 <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
Apr 23 06:55:44 <ericxdu[m]> I'm flashing my emmc now :-)
Apr 23 06:56:36 <ericxdu[m]> Freedoom runs surprising smooth on this thing
Apr 23 18:31:31 <zmatt> ericxdu[m]: and I'm guessing that doesn't even use the gpu?
Apr 23 18:33:12 <kremlin> does anyone have the docs for the mentor graphics USB 2.0 OTG controller found in the am335x?
Apr 23 18:33:15 <kremlin> "musbmhdrc
Apr 23 18:33:16 <kremlin> "
Apr 23 18:33:26 <zmatt> I found it once
Apr 23 18:33:49 <kremlin> where? how?
Apr 23 18:34:02 <zmatt> I think baidu
Apr 23 18:34:07 <kremlin> this confounded controller doesn't implement standard EHCI interface
Apr 23 18:34:11 <kremlin> ah :)
Apr 23 18:36:50 <zmatt> or try this: http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/tom/musbmhdrc_pspgUSB.pdf
Apr 23 18:36:55 <zmatt> :)
Apr 23 18:37:12 <kremlin> !!!
Apr 23 18:37:15 <kremlin> thanks much
Apr 23 18:37:32 <kremlin> this is exactly what i need
Apr 23 18:37:34 <zmatt> you're working on usb support now?
Apr 23 18:37:42 <kremlin> yes, haha, it's funny
Apr 23 18:37:54 <kremlin> i wrote a driver for the LCD controller, plugged it into Xorg so everything works really nice
Apr 23 18:38:02 <kremlin> but! no USB support. no keyboard or mouse
Apr 23 18:38:11 <kremlin> so i can start X and see it. but not do anything
Apr 23 18:38:14 <zmatt> no gpu support yet? ;-)
Apr 23 18:38:51 <kremlin> just like this MG usb controller, can't find docs on the VX powercore or whatever the gpu is called
Apr 23 18:39:05 <zmatt> powervr sgx530
Apr 23 18:39:06 <kremlin> also, i've never dealt with even that category of hardware, so it'd be slow going at first
Apr 23 18:40:03 <zmatt> basically your only hope would be to port the kernel driver and hope you can get the proprietary (but redistributable) userspace libs working
Apr 23 18:40:07 <zmatt> (for the gpu)
Apr 23 18:40:37 <kremlin> anything GPL'd is a no go
Apr 23 18:40:54 <zmatt> the userspace libs aren't GPL'd, they're closed source
Apr 23 18:41:10 <zmatt> I wouldn't be surprised if you could find a BSD/MIT licensed version of the kernel stuff
Apr 23 18:41:35 <kremlin> plus porting linux driver -> bsd driver is...bad
Apr 23 18:41:54 <kremlin> binary libs can't really be shipped with the system
Apr 23 18:41:56 <zmatt> it's not integrated upstream because, as a reviewer might say: "AAAAHHHHHH MY EYEEESS"
Apr 23 18:42:23 <kremlin> and we can't ever really halfway support hardware but have a "connect to the internet and download lib package" step
Apr 23 18:42:36 <kremlin> yeah, jesus, i imagine this stuff is really really bad
Apr 23 18:43:05 <zmatt> I stopped looking at it when I started noticing an urge to gauge my eyes out with a spoon
Apr 23 18:44:11 <kremlin> i've looked at some docs from the same company that did the GPU IP block
Apr 23 18:44:14 <kremlin> and it was complete gibberish
Apr 23 19:29:32 <ericxdu[m]> zmatt, as far as I know yes: prboom doesn't need GPU acceleration
Apr 23 19:30:01 <ericxdu[m]> I think its due to the 3Dtricks
Apr 23 19:34:15 <ericxdu[m]> Umm... 3 dimensional tricks used to make 3d-like environments
Apr 23 19:50:01 <zmatt> yeah, doom (at least the original) is actually kinda a 2d game
Apr 23 19:50:21 <zmatt> (that's for example why you can't look up/down)
Apr 23 20:01:27 <sambuc> d
Apr 23 20:01:48 <sambuc> sorry
Apr 23 20:02:17 <zmatt> perhaps in time you will be forgiven
Apr 23 20:02:47 <sambuc> thank you ;)
Apr 23 21:23:14 <chatter29> hey guys
Apr 23 21:23:16 <chatter29> allah is doing
Apr 23 21:23:25 <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
Apr 23 21:23:27 <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
Apr 23 22:11:10 <ozzloy> back
Apr 23 22:12:17 <ozzloy> trying to connect bbblue via micro usb to debian laptop.  i have just plugged in my phone, and used the exact same port, and cable.  the laptop picks up the phone and displays it as a storage device.  it is not picking up the bbblue though
Apr 23 22:14:22 <ozzloy> i _can_ see the bblue's AP though.  i connected to it, guessed the WPA password and was given an IP.  i tried 192.168.7.2 as suggested at beagleboard.org/getting-started
Apr 23 22:15:52 <ozzloy> OH!  tried a different port, shows up
Apr 23 22:17:31 <ozzloy> aww, it comes with a beagle icon
Apr 23 22:17:33 <ozzloy> adorable
Apr 23 22:54:05 <ericxdu[m]> zmatt: I had my suspicions. Its really clever the way doom did it
Apr 23 22:54:10 <ericxdu[m]> :-)
Apr 23 22:55:11 <ericxdu[m]> The main thing I remember is theres no real up/down. Rooms can't be on top of other rooms and monsters above you are virtually in front of you on level
Apr 23 22:55:18 <ericxdu[m]> Thus no need to aim vertically
Apr 23 22:55:40 <ericxdu[m]> And the way things are drawn probably depend on a fixed vertical perspective
Apr 24 00:12:45 <NotFred> How do you get a buildroot image on to EMMC?
Apr 24 00:14:16 <zmatt> the same ways you get any other image onto it, you can make a flasher sd card, or use something like BBBlfs (but ideally less brittle) to flash via usb
Apr 24 00:15:35 <NotFred> Flash via USB? Do you have a link or something I can lookup?
Apr 24 00:16:57 <zmatt> http://pastebin.com/x5QzB18E
Apr 24 00:17:30 <NotFred> Thank you :)
Apr 24 00:18:11 <NotFred> Just clarifying the SD procesdure... modify /boot/uEnv.txt...
Apr 24 00:18:17 <NotFred> add 'cmdline=init=/opt/scripts/tools/eMMC/init-eMMC-flasher-v3.sh'
Apr 24 00:18:35 <zmatt> that's not very likely to exist on your buildroot image
Apr 24 00:18:48 <NotFred> That's what I was wondering.
Apr 24 00:20:10 <zmatt> the short story would be: just make a bootable sd card, toss your image onto that (as a file), boot the bbb from it and manually write the image to eMMC
Apr 24 00:20:24 <zmatt> after doing it once or twice replace the manual part by a shell script
Apr 24 00:21:57 <NotFred> Sounds like a plan :)
Apr 24 00:22:01 <NotFred> Thanks again zmatt
Apr 24 00:53:25 <ayjay_t> :-O jeez RAM is super expensive
Apr 24 01:45:29 <NotFred> Still booting buildroot image from SD at the moment. I can't figure out how to enable USB ethernet / RNDIS.
Apr 24 01:52:25 <_NotFred> Anyone know how to enable USB Ethernet in buildroot?
Apr 24 02:49:54 <zmatt> same as in any other environment I'd imagine
Apr 24 02:50:19 <zmatt> you load the kernel module and setup the resulting network interface
Apr 24 02:50:42 <zmatt> ayjay_t: it is?
Apr 24 02:51:20 <zmatt> ayjay_t: I know the biggest chips (1GB/chip) definitely are, way disproportionate to smaller sizes
Apr 24 02:52:11 <zmatt> (ignoring multi-rank chips here)
Apr 24 02:56:47 <kremlin> i wish the LCD controller could get a faster clock
Apr 24 02:57:00 <kremlin> it is just barely too slow to do 1920x1080x60
Apr 24 02:57:50 <zmatt> kremlin: well you can overclock it, but tbh you don't want to anyway, since you're probably also stressing the memory bandwidth and risk underflows
Apr 24 02:58:32 <kremlin> there's no way to avoid the memory i/o problems huh
Apr 24 02:58:45 <zmatt> magically grow a wider ddr3 bus?
Apr 24 02:58:59 <kremlin> :)
Apr 24 02:59:12 <zmatt> actually, I thought 1080p60 was *just* within spec?
Apr 24 02:59:24 <kremlin> 1080 @ 30fps
Apr 24 02:59:28 <kremlin> which is a mode that i have never seen supported
Apr 24 02:59:33 <zmatt> that wouldn't be "just"
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