**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 11 03:00:02 2017 Oct 11 03:00:55 That and a few other things. Oct 11 03:01:17 You have to make sure the board is very clean then conformally coated. Oct 11 03:01:32 Any little bit of dirt will draw power. Oct 11 03:01:44 Oh. That is odd. I did not know. Oct 11 03:02:10 Well they key fobs you use are on for about 1 second per day or so. Oct 11 03:02:11 I see why we call these machines. Oct 11 03:02:31 You mean like LED key fobs? Oct 11 03:02:59 Yes you didn't know that pressing that button didn't leave things on very long? Oct 11 03:03:05 :D Oct 11 03:03:37 Ha! Now, I get it. I took apart some items in my life and could not change things because I was unaware of how things worked. Oct 11 03:04:56 The duty cycle is how you extend the life of the battery. The battery will recover energy to a certain extent of you don't draw huge amounts of power for long periods of time. Oct 11 03:05:19 So that's how key fobs can last a couple years. Oct 11 03:05:24 So, you had to write minimal sofware, with little to no hardware, and have everything packaged in a tiny, confined space. Oct 11 03:05:25 Oh. Oct 11 03:06:41 What would happen if they updated hardware and changed the IDE? Boo! This is what happens! Oct 11 03:07:31 well sleep calls to me "slacker go to bed" I think it's saying. Oct 11 03:07:53 Okay. Good luck on sleep. See you later. Oct 11 03:11:40 ... Oct 11 03:42:56 has anybody loaded ubuntu on beagleboard c4 ? Oct 11 03:43:39 I put an Ubuntu distro on my BBB before but what is c4? Oct 11 03:45:29 google beagleboard c4 Oct 11 03:46:12 https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Ubuntu_On_BeagleBone_Black is what was referenced in the book I have currently. It is from 2014. Oct 11 03:46:38 ah, it's the beagleboard, revision c4 Oct 11 03:47:17 I will look this up. Oct 11 03:47:43 i picked this bb c4 in 2011 and putzed with it for a coup;e years, ran angstrom but never ubuntu Oct 11 03:49:12 https://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu Oct 11 03:49:41 mucked with the ios ports and got servo motors runnin for pan and tilt for video , also hooked up usbcamera and was able to remote control it Oct 11 03:50:05 Thank you Kitlith. Oct 11 03:51:52 b_kludged: Remote control? Did you attempt this over Internet or by Infrared? Oct 11 03:54:00 ... hold on, that page actually appears to only be for the beaglebone/beagleboard xM Oct 11 03:54:07 sorry, idk. Oct 11 03:55:58 wireless usb adapter bb c4 using angstrom and x ,,, had apache on bb and wrote java code to graphically control up down motion Oct 11 03:56:36 Cool. Oct 11 03:57:29 Kitlith: The site is generic in way of board. We just need to upgrade X-Loader and U-Boot. Oct 11 03:58:33 They have some links. Oct 11 03:58:34 but havnt muked with thing in several years, the c4 is the version before xM Oct 11 04:02:04 The links are beat, man. Sorry. There are no working hyperlinks to the X-Loader and U-Boot for now. Oct 11 04:06:15 http://ftp1.digi.com/support/documentation/90000852_K.pdf Oct 11 04:06:30 I found this from Digi. Oct 11 04:07:28 i copied some code from dr. dobbs journal , i compiled it with zortech c compiler, booted the disk on my 386/25 and had linux 0.9beta running.... this was in 1986 ,,, and linus published this as his thesis Oct 11 04:08:50 Cool...how did it work? Oct 11 04:10:09 i was impressed,,, the big problem i had was getting the hi res settings correct to run x on my monitor Oct 11 04:11:47 every time i changed settings i had to recompile , and on a 386 it took several hours, what a pain in the ass Oct 11 04:12:20 I have a BBB and it runs kernel 4.9.x. I bet. Hours for video! Yikes. Oct 11 04:12:37 I remember some computer in '96. "My first!" Oct 11 04:12:45 It was love at first site. Oct 11 04:13:09 my first was sinclair z80 from 1980 Oct 11 04:13:58 You must know some stuff. Oct 11 04:14:15 There are so many boards these days. There is no way to keep up. Oct 11 04:14:25 4k ram 4k rom and the os was just a basic interpter Oct 11 04:15:03 Did you stay current through it all? Oct 11 04:15:53 my seecond was a tandy 1000 in '85 and i learned c using bortech lattus Oct 11 04:16:06 ran like dos 2.1 Oct 11 04:16:16 Mmmmmm dos Oct 11 04:16:24 I know nothing. I can say it now. Oct 11 04:16:51 Well, my history on computers is dim. No pun intended. Oct 11 04:17:03 i know 6 or 7 languages , but only 1 is spoken Oct 11 04:17:19 Ha! Oct 11 04:17:54 Let us use the BBB or variant to program something... Oct 11 04:17:57 Is that okay? Oct 11 04:18:48 ... Oct 11 04:19:01 It is okay if we do not. I have problems with power management. Oct 11 04:20:11 i hain't gonna buy another board,,,, i will muck with the c4 and get it to work Oct 11 04:20:27 hey,,, do a google of multiflow Oct 11 04:20:34 Okay. Oct 11 04:20:39 and drill to the trace 400 Oct 11 04:21:35 1984? Oct 11 04:21:37 i repaired the memory and cpu circuits on that puppy Oct 11 04:22:06 vliw did you get that? Oct 11 04:22:33 Hmm. I have a 1979 circuit board from a Kawasaki. Oct 11 04:22:43 vliw...nope. Oct 11 04:23:01 do you know what vliw is? Oct 11 04:23:12 It is an "older" model Electone. Oct 11 04:23:15 nope. Oct 11 04:23:24 vliw is very large instruction word, right? Oct 11 04:23:59 your laptop is a 64 that means the instruction word is 64 bits Oct 11 04:24:45 the vliw on this multiflow trace 400 is 1k Oct 11 04:26:19 I just read a partial read of the Wiki. Oct 11 04:26:31 They have books on it, too. Oct 11 04:27:25 Actually, many books. Oct 11 04:27:43 i wrote c code to loop signals to wiggle the wires to attach digital analyzers and o'scopes to see what chips worked or not Oct 11 04:28:17 Why did you guys quit? Oct 11 04:28:22 Or change route? Oct 11 04:28:44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiflow#Multiflow.27s_end according to wikipedia Oct 11 04:29:03 Right...I would have to get the book. Oct 11 04:30:24 multiflow shut the doors in '89. i left to work building unix networks ad duracell Oct 11 04:30:39 at duracell in 91 Oct 11 04:31:24 I am sorry that had to happen. Oct 11 04:32:37 I guess, as they say, the world was not ready. Oct 11 04:32:44 duracell was a better gig,,,,, they wanted to network to all the remote facilities the documentation for the machines that made the batteries Oct 11 04:32:57 Oh... Oct 11 04:33:09 That is a way to look at it. Oct 11 04:33:58 b_kludged: I am an end-user for now. I will probably bore you soon. Oct 11 04:34:54 i hooked up hp unix servers on token ring,, later we changed to ethernet, but i had to set up like 4 to 12 hp boxes at all remote locations,,, i was at world headquarters, did a lot of traveling Oct 11 04:35:21 made a lot of buks Oct 11 04:36:15 Work and travel entail funds...for sure. Oct 11 04:36:27 Well, hopefully. Oct 11 04:36:53 i also did a lot with autocad, creating cnc routines to sent to lathes and millers Oct 11 04:37:18 Cool beans...I bet a couple of places could use you to teach. Oct 11 04:37:25 Do you teach? Oct 11 04:37:40 I suck at making people understand. Oct 11 04:38:05 im 68 years now , retired last year ,, drink a lot of beer now Oct 11 04:38:29 So, I got this BBB (beaglebone black), unemployed, and loving life while looking for more work. Oct 11 04:38:37 Boy! Oct 11 04:39:09 Sorry. Oct 11 04:40:17 my last gig was with time warner, reconfiguration of routers and databases for the merger with comcast, which is now spectrum Oct 11 04:40:38 b_kludged: I bet you would laugh. Get this, I plugged in my BBB and thought, from a 3.3v power supply, I could run two, different sensors. Oct 11 04:40:39 Boo! Oct 11 04:41:15 I got ramrodded into thinking I could do this. I harassed a bunch of people and ruided their lives. Oct 11 04:41:19 i dont know what functionality that board has Oct 11 04:41:29 They waisted time on me and my needs. Oct 11 04:41:31 Linux! Oct 11 04:41:39 I feel like a douche. Oct 11 04:41:52 I even stink now. Oct 11 04:42:06 wait, why can't you run two sensors? Oct 11 04:42:10 that doesn't sound right. Oct 11 04:42:10 So, nevertheless, I apologized and moved on. Oct 11 04:42:34 set_: and now you're spamming the channel about how bad you are :P Oct 11 04:42:42 I cannot run two sensors because there is not enough power from the 3.3v to run my sensors. Oct 11 04:42:44 Ha! Oct 11 04:43:01 3.3v means nothing. What is the required current? Oct 11 04:43:12 (assuming they're both 3.3v sensors at least) Oct 11 04:43:28 I do not know right now. Please hold. I will look it up. Oct 11 04:44:20 I turned 1.8v to 1.5v with a resistor. Oct 11 04:44:31 470 ohm. Oct 11 04:44:42 ? Oct 11 04:44:54 And damn it, I have this normally open window sensor. Oct 11 04:45:08 I have to go back to another book for this one. Please hold. Oct 11 04:45:27 do a google on kludged,,, thats what i b Oct 11 04:49:23 It does not say and my other window sensor is missing. Oct 11 04:49:39 I looked for it and failed. Oct 11 04:50:29 I found it. Oct 11 04:50:36 1994! Oct 11 04:51:09 in a grocery store, on the shelves, there is a printed label showing the prices Oct 11 04:51:52 have you ever seen small lcd units on the shelves instead of the printed labels? Oct 11 04:52:47 P/N 8601 is what I am using. I have not found the specifications on this item yet. Oct 11 04:53:22 that sounds like a cpu chip Oct 11 04:54:08 Normally open sensor. Oct 11 04:55:06 I probably need a bigger resistor. Oct 11 04:55:16 you could use a regular on/off switch to test for functionality Oct 11 04:55:38 Yep. That is a good idea or a push button. Oct 11 04:55:46 duh Oct 11 04:55:57 doah Oct 11 04:56:27 I am currently looking for how much current is being taken away from 3.3v from my hook-up. Oct 11 04:56:51 Because, I blamed a guy and his software instead of figuring out things on my own. Oct 11 04:57:54 put water on yer hands,, the black wire in left hand, and the red in the right hand ,,,, trigger unit and see if smoke comes out yer ears Oct 11 04:58:22 Otay BUTT TEet! Oct 11 04:58:33 BBB! Oct 11 04:58:45 We are supposed to discuss bBB stuff. Oct 11 04:59:50 So b_kludged: How much current is being drawn away from my 3.3v from this magnetic switch? Oct 11 05:00:12 Help me! Oct 11 05:00:14 i hain't fired up my bb c4 in 4 or5 years i am gonna do it soon Oct 11 05:00:22 Cool! Oct 11 05:01:01 Do it w/ class, do it with sophistication, do it with your bone! Oct 11 05:01:22 um, that's sounding like 'none', it's a switch. so you'd connect one end to power and the other with a resistor to ground and a pin of your choosing that you can read from. Oct 11 05:01:30 in the off position you should have no current in the on position you should blow the circuit breaker Oct 11 05:01:40 ^ Oct 11 05:01:43 Come on. Oct 11 05:01:47 The machine works. Oct 11 05:02:07 I got it to work. Please hold, I will post the pastebin again. Oct 11 05:02:25 I thought you couldn't get two sensors working? Oct 11 05:02:32 Right... Oct 11 05:02:41 But, I did not power them separately. Oct 11 05:03:00 could you describe how everything was connected? Oct 11 05:03:33 https://pastebin.com/LcLTH4P0 and yes Kitlith, I can only try. Oct 11 05:04:00 Here: Well shit. Let me get a photo instead. Oct 11 05:04:07 that'll work Oct 11 05:08:02 I got in in a photo and the camera died. I hope this works. Oct 11 05:08:10 How should I post it? Oct 11 05:09:01 click on the user you want to send the file to Oct 11 05:09:03 upload to imgur or something? Oct 11 05:09:28 I have no idea if file transfer through my ZNC is setup properly, so... Oct 11 05:09:29 right click Oct 11 05:09:58 https://imgur.com/a/APZKr Oct 11 05:10:33 so that's one switch, how did you have two setup? Oct 11 05:10:46 The switch is one thing and the LED is another thing. Oct 11 05:10:54 yes Oct 11 05:10:59 Yep. Oct 11 05:11:05 It all takes power to run it. Oct 11 05:11:29 3.3v is not a lot since I have software running, HTML, and Flask as an app. Oct 11 05:11:49 Right? Oct 11 05:12:07 The lower section is not attached for now. Oct 11 05:12:48 3.3v is just the voltage. it has little to do with "how much power there is for sensors" Oct 11 05:12:51 that's current. Oct 11 05:12:55 One goes to ground and other goes to P9_13. Oct 11 05:13:05 measures in mA (milliamps) Oct 11 05:13:35 I think each pin can only handle 3.3v. Oct 11 05:13:55 If I run two pins, I am using 6.6v instead of the required 3.3v. Oct 11 05:14:10 ... no Oct 11 05:14:13 Oh? Oct 11 05:14:18 you are simply drawing more current Oct 11 05:14:22 Oh. Oct 11 05:14:23 which is not voltage. Oct 11 05:14:24 sounds like somethin' else besides ears was smoked Oct 11 05:14:31 And? Oct 11 05:15:00 You are right. I am so absurd with my bone. I am so sorry. Please, school me. Oct 11 05:15:18 Sorry. Oct 11 05:15:42 here, take a look at this: https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-current-resistance-and-ohms-law Oct 11 05:15:48 Okay. Thank you. Oct 11 05:16:10 I have enough books. I will read about it later, again and again. Oct 11 05:16:26 I figured the bone could not handle two pins at once without more power. Oct 11 05:16:38 I am mistaken. I am sorry. Oct 11 05:18:24 i mean, that's not a book, it Oct 11 05:18:44 *it's a short little thing which may clear up some of your misconceptions about electricity. Oct 11 05:19:35 I have another book on Electricity. I will read it again and try to remember. Oct 11 05:21:08 it also has a few videos going over what voltage, current, and resistance are. Oct 11 05:21:22 a very good tool is somethin like this.......http://www.ebay.com/bhp/usb-logic-analyzer Oct 11 05:22:05 or https://github.com/abhishek-kakkar/BeagleLogic + the beaglebone you already own Oct 11 05:27:25 Okay...so... Oct 11 05:28:19 I have 3.3v, some power consumption, and some other stuff. I should be able to configure all four issues of the power formula with this info. Oct 11 05:30:06 I am missing current. Oct 11 05:34:11 So, I am working with basically 9.54 watts of power with the BBB when I apply the formula. Oct 11 05:36:22 2.89 is the current in my bone so far. Oct 11 05:36:30 Well, with my set-up. Oct 11 05:36:45 2.89 what? amps? milliamps? Oct 11 05:37:03 amps. Oct 11 05:37:22 That is low, I know. Oct 11 05:37:53 mmm, most things are measured in milliamps when we're talking about this kind of stuff. Oct 11 05:38:27 So, I need a less powerful resistor to handle the magnetic switch. Oct 11 05:38:37 no? Oct 11 05:38:39 This should bring up my amperage. Oct 11 05:39:15 you'd want to lower your amperage through the switch, not raise it. Oct 11 05:39:53 To what? Oct 11 05:40:09 What amperage should the bone be working at? Oct 11 05:40:46 1.8v analog and 3.3v digital? Oct 11 05:40:47 and anyway, you're using 0.007 amps currently (V/R = A, 3.3/470 = 0.007) Oct 11 05:40:48 Right! Oct 11 05:41:09 it's a 470 ohm resistor right? Oct 11 05:41:19 I have a 10k resistor and a 470ohm resistor. Oct 11 05:41:59 The LED is handled from the 470ohm and the magnetic switch is handled by the 10k. Oct 11 05:42:57 oh, so that's 0.33 milliamps, or 0.00033 amps Oct 11 05:44:37 I know what happened now. Oct 11 05:45:35 I got everything incorrect by following two, separate books and not taking into account the shift in current. Oct 11 05:45:52 g'night Oct 11 05:46:00 I got what you have been saying. Oct 11 05:47:22 So, my amps need to be at what to have everything "Booming with EXCITEMENT?" Oct 11 05:48:14 I don't know. I don't know how the sensor was hooked up when you couldn't get it to work. Oct 11 05:48:16 I'm going to bed. Oct 11 05:48:25 Okay. Oct 11 05:48:29 No issue. Oct 11 05:48:35 See you later. Oct 11 05:48:42 I will do it. Oct 11 06:04:05 Okay...there is 50 to 100 mA accepted when powering from the USB. I was over by a specific amount, i.e. about 1.8 amps. Oct 11 06:06:28 Actually, I was over by a lot more. I have made my mistakes. It is time to do this correctly. Please hold. Oct 11 07:21:17 Hi, what microsd to be used with beaglebone white for reliability ? (brand-model) we have experienced system crashes along months with old cheap ones Oct 11 07:21:55 you'll probably want to buy an industrial spec one Oct 11 07:22:13 be prepared to pay a multiple of the price of a "normal" card Oct 11 07:25:37 just to give you an idea: http://eu.mouser.com/Embedded-Solutions/Memory-Modules/Memory-Cards/_/N-9pk9f?P=1yxxwsyZ1yy7k55&Keyword=Industrial&FS=True Oct 11 07:27:40 .....they cost more than the beagle itself... Oct 11 07:28:02 perhaps better to go for a new black with emmc Oct 11 07:30:51 well that's for heavy duty operations on years of scale Oct 11 07:31:51 if you want cheaper, then you can hedge by buying a card that is at least 2x the space of the actual use and buy a reliable brand. Certain Samsung cards, Transcend, SanDisk. Don't buy Kingston. Oct 11 07:32:13 also don't thrash your flash storage, ever Oct 11 07:32:19 not even on industrial parts Oct 11 07:32:45 for seomewhat lighter use, get SLC cards. Oct 11 07:33:12 the mouser search was industrial slc cards, could see and drop the "industrial" keyword Oct 11 07:34:13 ah, there are consumer slc cards, interesting. Could be worth a shot Oct 11 07:34:35 I'd still over-size the card to give it more wear leveling capacity Oct 11 07:37:33 we're shipping cactus slc cards for non-critical usecases of sd-cards Oct 11 07:51:22 the eMMC can also be reconfigured as SLC (at the cost of cutting the space available in half) Oct 11 07:51:43 oh, neat Oct 11 07:51:46 quite significantly increases write speed too Oct 11 07:53:36 * LetoThe2nd ponders setting up some scam to multi-mlc convert existing drives "double your space"! Oct 11 07:54:43 fortunately you can't since they wouldn't have the necessary comparators :) Oct 11 07:55:34 besides, scamming is much easier... just have the card report a larger size than it actually is. it'll just ignore the extra address bits Oct 11 07:55:47 (this actually happens) Oct 11 07:56:45 i know, i know :-( Oct 11 07:57:17 I have one of those cards where you can freely mess with the 8051 flash controller Oct 11 07:58:11 got it from Bunnie, I think during 30C3 Oct 11 07:58:20 cool Oct 11 09:05:55 hi everyone, is the driver for this http://www.4dsystems.com.au/product/gen4_uLCD_35D/ already available in beaglebone black wireless? Oct 11 09:06:09 thanks in advance Oct 11 09:12:51 that thing comes with its own processor Oct 11 09:13:15 you can apparently talk to it over UART, somehow Oct 11 09:15:11 I'm not sure why you'd want to connect that to a BBB Oct 11 09:17:39 wew!... my bad, i was just tasked to integrate it beaglebone. any display with touch capability you can recommend with beaglebone? Oct 11 09:19:26 bgbs08: anything with hdmi and usb? Oct 11 09:19:58 * tbr seconds that Oct 11 09:20:14 especially for one off or prototyping it's still the easiest Oct 11 09:20:58 yeah i second that one, hehe, i'm with you guys, idk why this one did they buy. Oct 11 09:21:11 i'm just new in this company Oct 11 09:21:20 and they let me work on this one haha Oct 11 09:22:36 it looks like that display is meant to be largely stand-alone and possibly take external input Oct 11 09:23:13 and by input I don't mean full screen content, but values that get processed and displayed Oct 11 09:24:24 you are right tbr, i just finished scanning their docs, Oct 11 09:24:52 anyways thanks for the inputs. Oct 11 09:24:53 I guess you might want to check if that's the intended use Oct 11 09:25:04 if not, look at a hdmi display with usb touch controller Oct 11 09:26:28 the thing is, they have an electron app that will be put inside the bbb and have a couple of sensor Oct 11 09:29:14 thanks a lot Oct 11 09:30:41 electron on the BBB? i'd seriously suggest to give that a reality check (in terms of performance) before investing more time/money Oct 11 10:45:45 electron :D Oct 11 10:56:03 bbb.io/latest redirects to https://beagleboard.org/latest, which then redirects to https://beagleboard.org/latest-images. The second redirect was prevented by my adblocker for some reason, and I thought the site was broken Oct 11 10:56:28 Would it be possible to remove the unnecessary redirect? Oct 11 11:01:10 someone knows why there is no flasher image provided for console snapshots on https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian ? Oct 11 11:07:30 SamVDB: I'm not sure if the flasher tool is even included in the console image ? Oct 11 11:11:36 I don't know either Oct 11 11:12:04 but if it isn't then it looks like there is no out-of-the-box way of flashing a console version on the onboard emmc Oct 11 11:12:09 which seems odd to me. Oct 11 11:19:58 well the console image isn't exactly an out-of-the-box experience in the first place Oct 11 11:20:48 true... Oct 11 11:20:51 thanks for the fast response ;-) Oct 11 11:21:26 but you can check if the flasher script exists on it, and if so these instructions should work -> https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Flashing_eMMC Oct 11 11:21:48 I think it probably is actually Oct 11 11:21:57 yup Oct 11 11:22:11 so all you need to do is uncomment a single line in /boot/uEnv.txt ... I think if you can't manage that, the console image isn't for you ;) Oct 11 11:22:28 I don't mind doing that Oct 11 11:23:05 I simply wanted to check if there is a specific reason why a flasher console variant wasn't provided. Could very well be that there is a specific reason for it.. Oct 11 11:25:29 I think the above is exactly it: making a flasher is trivial enough compared to installing/configuring the system to have what you need Oct 11 11:25:47 so why bother Oct 11 11:25:48 ok Oct 11 11:47:05 Hello... Oct 11 12:07:17 I am flashing (bbb-eMMC-flasher-eewiki-ext4.sh) the bbb with an SD card ubuntu image I prepared quite some time ago..but now I dont remember if there's another step in order to boot directly from mmc because boot is failing Oct 11 12:13:10 https://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black is a starter resource. Oct 11 12:13:25 It may prove valuable. Oct 11 12:14:46 set_, thanks, I'll try the init_ script Oct 11 12:15:34 Hey. Oct 11 12:15:46 Oh. Forget it. Oct 11 12:15:48 i probably used the bbb_emmc one because it was similar to the one I used two years ago Oct 11 12:15:55 Okay. Oct 11 12:16:13 Sorry for the lack of resources for now. Oct 11 12:16:37 Does the .img file start on your BBB? Oct 11 12:17:22 zmatt I couldn't resist and started looking around a bit and I think the reason why no flasher is available for console images is simply because this script doesn't contain the necessary line: Oct 11 12:17:26 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder/blob/master/publish/rcn-ee_bb.org-stable.sh#L236 Oct 11 12:18:07 Could make a PR that changes line 236 into this: options="--img-4gb bone-\${base_rootfs} ${beaglebone}" --emmc-flasher ; generate_img Oct 11 12:18:10 set_, I had an already-ready sd card I made, so no img Oct 11 12:18:31 Oh and your eMMC is taken up by other info? Oct 11 12:19:45 but I'll just uncomment that one line in the /boot/uEnv.txt file Oct 11 12:19:47 :) Oct 11 12:20:19 I am asking because the boards usually just work with the input of the SD Card. Oct 11 12:20:40 I have a book on it if you have time. Oct 11 12:21:34 dd on linux! Oct 11 12:30:18 ok, worked, the init_ Oct 11 12:30:23 was the good script Oct 11 12:31:24 great...I would have had to read about that to update any info. Oct 11 12:49:32 Okay...I am messing with a BBBW. I have a set up, https://imgur.com/a/2JH0R, and some software, https://pastebin.com/0J0VXk5s, but I am having issues with resistors and power. My resistors are as follows: 10k ohm for the N.O. window sensor and 470 ohm for the LED. Am I using too much power with these sensors to use USB as power? Oct 11 12:50:06 ... Oct 11 12:50:50 I know with the USB power, we only get 50 to 100mA. Oct 11 12:53:59 What mA do our GPIO pins have? Oct 11 12:54:23 Your circuit looks wrong Oct 11 12:54:55 When the switch closes, power is shorted to ground Oct 11 12:55:05 250mA? Oct 11 12:55:19 I am using normally closed on this one. Oct 11 12:55:29 It has both as options. Oct 11 12:56:10 You are connecting the power rail directly to ground Oct 11 12:56:20 draw a circuit diagram of your setup Oct 11 12:56:51 Okay...if I could. I suck at doing schematics. It may take some time but I will get it. Oct 11 13:03:57 I am getting closer. Oct 11 13:04:03 Please hold. Oct 11 13:13:18 Keep holding. I never thought this stuff was so complicated. Oct 11 13:14:59 set_: You could try fritzing for schematic Oct 11 13:15:46 Okay. Oct 11 13:15:49 Please hold. Oct 11 13:16:44 Should I put the ground symbol for the BBB or just set up my wiring and sensors for the symbols? Oct 11 13:18:12 It doesn't really matter as long as it's clear. Personally, I'd just do a quick sketch on paper Oct 11 13:20:43 gpios should not be used to drive any significant amount of current Oct 11 13:20:58 try to stay below 4 mA or so Oct 11 13:21:22 Thank you, zmatt. Oct 11 13:21:40 I will still going to draw this damn schematic for livelihood. Oct 11 13:26:46 (even at 4 mA, the output voltage drop may be up to 0.45 V) Oct 11 13:27:54 Okay. Oct 11 13:32:29 I cannot take a photo with my camera for some reason. Oct 11 13:49:44 Hold please. I think I got this... Oct 11 13:56:43 I give up, mate. I am sorry. I cannot do it b/c of lack of knowledge. Oct 11 14:00:19 Hold on... Oct 11 14:03:26 https://imgur.com/a/tzECU should have both connections! Oct 11 14:06:08 i.e. the LED and normally open sensor. Oct 11 14:14:35 I got one out of a book. Oct 11 14:14:51 The wrong one is probably mine, the n.o. sensor. Oct 11 14:17:59 You want something like this for the sensor: https://www.arduino.cc/en/uploads/Tutorial/button_sch.png Oct 11 14:18:33 Your current circuit doesn't make any sense to me Oct 11 14:19:44 Oh, the resistor goes directly into the negative row on the breadboard. Oct 11 14:20:07 P8-02 is also a GND according to the pinout I'm looking at Oct 11 14:20:22 Yes. Oct 11 14:22:16 I have a magnetic switch. This switch can either be normally closed or normally open. Oct 11 14:22:42 In the diagram I linked, the resistor is pulling the voltage at the input pin to ground (It's a "pulldown" resistor). When the switch is closed, the input is connected directly to +5V, which "overrides" the pulldown resistor Oct 11 14:23:06 only difference with the bbb is that it uses 3.3v logic levels Oct 11 14:24:02 Okay. I guess I have the wrong connection made up. Oct 11 14:25:15 It works but not with the latter software which includes the LED. Oct 11 14:25:58 I will keep on it and report back. Oct 11 14:37:39 hi guys! seems I bricked pocketbeagle when flashing emmc, is there any instructions to recover the board? Oct 11 14:40:29 pocketbeagle has emmc? Oct 11 14:42:31 mmc1 - yes Oct 11 14:44:00 seems it was partially written, and now it just jumps to loading u-boot and fails. just wanted to know if there are any pins to force to boot from microsd as pocketbeagle lacks boot button Oct 11 14:47:28 https://github.com/beagleboard/pocketbeagle/issues/3#issuecomment-333586794 Oct 11 14:48:29 I assume you've tried using a fresh SD image? Oct 11 14:48:32 metalheart: looks like that's already the default Oct 11 14:48:54 based on the schematic Oct 11 14:50:06 actually, what eMMC ? Oct 11 14:50:28 there's no eMMC on the pocketbeagle Oct 11 14:50:36 ^ Oct 11 14:50:46 metalheart: probably you self-rewrote the inserted microsd card Oct 11 14:50:57 yes, tried to use fresh SD card and it just not boot Oct 11 14:50:59 if there were, it would never boot from it with these sysboot settings Oct 11 14:51:10 but also, it's not there Oct 11 14:52:06 strange, I thought pocketbeagle has it Oct 11 14:52:22 no, definitely not Oct 11 14:52:49 there's no eMMC part in the schematic, and the relevant pins of the OSD3358 are not connected to anything Oct 11 14:54:51 maybe you know what might happen that when trying to boot with fresh microsd it does not boot? i inserted microsd with edited uEnv.txt where I enabled writting to emmc... Oct 11 14:56:01 i guess the script directly overwrote the mmc in use until something severely broke Oct 11 14:56:22 Does the current SD you are using have a modified uEnv? Oct 11 14:56:30 i.e. you now have an unbootable card.. either because it tried to "reflash" the card itself, or simply because the flasher doesn't (can't) work and there's no way to get it to boot normally now since you edited the uEnv.txt Oct 11 14:56:43 Maybe you bricked the SD somehow Oct 11 14:56:52 does the current sd card even appear to be readable in your pc? Oct 11 14:57:09 just reflash the sd card Oct 11 14:57:20 I flashed clean image, it has original image without my edits Oct 11 14:57:48 then it should definitely boot then Oct 11 14:58:03 I'm pretty sure there isn't anything on the pocketbeagle you can brick really Oct 11 14:59:12 I hoped too that it could not be broken in any way) Oct 11 15:00:33 well, putting 5v on an I/O should do the trick Oct 11 15:00:43 ;) Oct 11 15:01:53 i have serial adapter at home, will check debug output from uart0 Oct 11 15:02:26 zmatt: s/5v/anything >= 5v/g Oct 11 15:02:35 im pretty sure 6v also do the trick :) Oct 11 15:03:32 also when board is booted without microsd a device on usb bus shows up, is it some additional way to boot the board? Oct 11 15:07:12 metalheart: yes, but not entirely trivial Oct 11 15:07:24 it shows up as RNDIS network interface and then performs bootp/tftp boot Oct 11 15:07:57 are there any instructions how to poperly set it up? because on linux machine it just does not configure properly Oct 11 15:08:16 it works fine on linux Oct 11 15:08:26 at least it shows up as usb network interface for me Oct 11 15:08:32 strange, it does not get IP address assigned Oct 11 15:08:36 of course not Oct 11 15:09:03 your computer needs to run a bootp server Oct 11 15:09:57 ok, thank you for information! Oct 11 15:10:12 if you want an example of how to get a bbb (I haven't tested it on a pocketbeagle) to boot *something*, see this demo I made -> https://github.com/mvduin/bbb-asm-demo#booting-ethernetusb Oct 11 15:12:37 I've also had success getting a (custom-built) u-boot served in a similar way using dnsmasq Oct 11 15:13:56 (it needs a non-standard u-boot build that downloads the u-boot.img via tftp over usb) Oct 11 15:14:21 *whose MLO downloads u-boot.img via tftp over usb Oct 11 15:14:33 SPL I mean Oct 11 15:14:34 bla Oct 11 15:14:50 inserted fresh microsd - after 1 minute no signs of life. so it could be burned from software) Oct 11 15:14:50 summary: yeah it's possible, but not exactly easy Oct 11 15:15:12 no signs of life? no led turns on? Oct 11 15:15:22 yes Oct 11 15:15:25 no usb device Oct 11 15:15:36 that's not what I asked Oct 11 15:15:44 I assume the pocketbeagle has leds? Oct 11 15:15:45 only power led is lit Oct 11 15:15:59 then I'm still leaning towards "misflashed card" Oct 11 15:16:18 how are you creating it? Oct 11 15:16:30 i'll try another microsd, but first time when I flashed card it worked Oct 11 15:16:47 sudo dd if=bone-debian-9.1-iot-armhf-2017-09-21-4gb.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=4M Oct 11 15:17:21 mmcblk0 = laptops cardreader Oct 11 15:17:33 after that I do sync Oct 11 15:17:47 so it should be properly written Oct 11 15:19:46 it should be yes Oct 11 15:20:14 optionally do blkdiscard /dev/mmcblk0 first to erase the card Oct 11 15:20:28 ok Oct 11 15:21:46 I'm not sure why it wouldn't work suddenly... but it seems extremely implausible that hw damage could have been done, and it also doesn't seem to match the symptoms Oct 11 15:29:33 did blkdiscard but no success, I'll check serial otuput, maybe it will give a clue what happened Oct 11 15:30:10 always a good idea Oct 11 17:29:31 Hi people Oct 11 17:29:40 I am not able to boot linux kernel 4.4 in BBB Oct 11 17:29:50 I am using sd card boot Oct 11 17:30:05 uEnv.txt console=ttyS0,115200n8 netargs=setenv bootargs console=ttyO0,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro rootfstype=ext4 rootwait debug earlyprintk mem=256M netboot=echo Booting from Network ...; setenv autoload no ; load mmc 0:1 ${loadaddr} uImage ; load mmc 0:1 ${fdtaddr} am335x-boneblack.dtb ; run netargs ; bootm ${loadaddr} - ${fdtaddr} Oct 11 17:30:30 I am able to boot kernel 3.8 with same uenv.txt Oct 11 17:30:51 What else I need to do to boot this kernel Oct 11 17:30:58 this is uboot log Oct 11 17:31:06 U-Boot SPL 2016.07 (Jul 19 2016 - 00:02:40) Trying to boot from MMC1 MMC partition switch failed *** Warning - MMC partition switch failed, using default environment reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2016.07 (Jul 19 2016 - 00:02:40 +0530) Watchdog enabled I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB MMC: OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 *** Warning - bad CRC, using default environment Net: not set. Validating first Oct 11 17:31:22 reading uEnv.txt 351 bytes read in 3 ms (114.3 KiB/s) Loaded env from uEnv.txt Importing environment from mmc0 ... Running uenvcmd ... Booting from Network ... reading uImage 8715288 bytes read in 493 ms (16.9 MiB/s) reading am335x-boneblack.dtb 56891 bytes read in 9 ms (6 MiB/s) ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 82000000 ... Image Name: Linux-4.4.90 Created: 2017-10-07 15:26:28 UTC Image Type: ARM Linux Kern Oct 11 17:31:39 Data Size: 8715224 Bytes = 8.3 MiB Load Address: 80008000 Entry Point: 80008000 Verifying Checksum ... OK ## Flattened Device Tree blob at 88000000 Booting using the fdt blob at 0x88000000 Loading Kernel Image ... OK Loading Device Tree to 8ffef000, end 8ffffe3a ... OK Starting kernel ... Oct 11 17:31:50 so it stops at 'starting kernel...' Oct 11 17:32:20 Can any one help? Oct 11 17:32:38 I have posted a question on community too but no response from 4 days. Oct 11 17:33:45 Hi people Oct 11 17:34:01 can any one help me in booting kernel 4.4 on beaglebone black Oct 11 17:34:21 please don't paste large volumes of text into the channel, use a paste service such as pastebin.com Oct 11 17:34:31 ok Oct 11 17:35:22 the contents of that uEnv.txt looks strange and ancient to me Oct 11 17:36:38 https://pastebin.com/raw/kFUhEF75 Oct 11 17:36:54 this uenv.txt was able to boot kernel 3.8 Oct 11 17:37:19 which itself is ancient Oct 11 17:37:34 so what it takes to boot a kernel Oct 11 17:37:42 a device tree blob, load address Oct 11 17:38:01 thats it, is anything is introduced in newer kernels. Oct 11 17:38:03 Legacy Image... uncompressed? that's really weird Oct 11 17:38:33 also, what's with all the netboot-related stuff if you're booting from sd card? Oct 11 17:38:41 legacy image means uImage? Oct 11 17:39:01 I vaguely recognize the term "uImage" but never seen one in the wild I think Oct 11 17:39:24 ok so you are suggesting maybe vmlinux maybe Oct 11 17:39:32 vmlinuz but yes Oct 11 17:39:52 I don't know what changes I have to do for vmlinuz Oct 11 17:39:56 in uenv.txt Oct 11 17:40:27 are you using a custom-built kernel or one of rcn's debian packages? Oct 11 17:41:22 https://github.com/beagleboard/linux Oct 11 17:41:28 I am using this kernel. Oct 11 17:41:56 sudo make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- bb.org_defconfig Oct 11 17:42:04 sudo make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- uImage dtbs LOADADDR=0x80008000 -j4 Oct 11 17:42:07 to compile Oct 11 17:42:10 if you use rcn's build scripts to compile that kernel you automatically get a vmlinuz (and it even makes it into a debian package for you) Oct 11 17:42:40 where is that script. Oct 11 17:42:45 in scripts folder? Oct 11 17:44:01 for the -ti kernel variants (which are default currently), https://github.com/RobertCNelson/ti-linux-kernel-dev Oct 11 17:44:18 select branch for desired series Oct 11 17:44:49 of course this is only needed if you want to customize the kernel config or apply custom patches, otherwise you can just install a prebuilt kernel package Oct 11 17:45:19 as for /boot/uEnv.txt, something like this should suffice: https://pastebin.com/7rrnWRB2 Oct 11 17:45:54 might be worth replacing the bootloader with one that's a bit more recent than 2016.07 though Oct 11 17:47:01 I will try these changes. Oct 11 17:47:07 thanks. Oct 11 20:42:50 hello all, does anyone know if the BeagleBone X-15 has support for the Adafruit_BBIO module Oct 11 20:44:48 heh... Adafruit_BBIO is barely even maintained for BBB Oct 11 20:45:56 I somewhat get the impression that lib is mostly good at causing headaches, but maybe I'm biased since people tend to come here with their problems, not with their successes Oct 11 20:46:22 I think there is one person that maintains it so far. People are trying to get knowledge more as we speak... Oct 11 20:46:25 <<< Oct 11 20:47:09 I don't understand why so much of it is written in C anyway... most (if not all) could be written in pure python, which would undoubtedly make it easier to maintain Oct 11 20:47:36 most of the lib just consists of read/writing sysfs files Oct 11 20:49:13 Aw! You are helping already. See...I am just getting started with the Rpi part of it. I am getting basics down first. Oct 11 20:54:35 haha, thanks for the assistance, guys Oct 11 20:55:19 it seems as if extremely useful libraries are always poorly maintained in the world of embedded linux devices :/ Oct 11 20:57:54 Sort of...there are many out there. I like BBIO. It works on kernel 4.4.x and if not, go to the GitHub.com page for it. Oct 11 20:58:42 You can find it. But if not, look here and apply issues: https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python. Oct 11 20:58:48 it's definitely done well at helping me trim development time for past projects down significantly Oct 11 22:19:55 Hi, is this the appropriate channel for asking for help troubleshooting flashing the eMMC with a new image, if I've exhausted other resources for help? Oct 11 22:21:46 pkb: Outline what you're trying to do and your problem and someone will help you if they can. Oct 11 22:24:57 I have an Arrow BBB Industrial. I'm trying to flash its eMMC with the Debian 9.1 IoT image. I'm able to boot it off an SD card with the image, but not able to flash it to the eMMC. After several attempts, when booting the BBB it shows 4 solid usr LEDs after 5 mins. Oct 11 22:26:38 how exactly are you attempting to flash to eMMC? Oct 11 22:27:56 A couple more notes: I've uncommented the appropriate line in /boot/uEnv.txt. And the 4 solid usr LEDs happen when booting without the SD card. I've verified the debian_version is now 9.1 on the eMMC. Oct 11 22:28:44 the flasher itself did seem to complete successfully? Oct 11 22:30:34 The flasher did seem to initially complete, however I can't get a normal boot from eMMC now (eventual 4 solid LEDs). But that initial flash showed the correct light pattern (1-2-3-4-3-2-1 etc), although it only took ~10 mins to complete. Oct 11 22:31:06 The catch: I can't successfully re-flash it. Oct 11 22:31:16 how so? Oct 11 22:32:43 it would probably be useful to check messages on the serial console btw Oct 11 22:33:49 I try with different SD cards and images, but can never get the LED sequence to start which indicates it's flashing a new image. With SD card in and holding S2 button on boot, nothing happens but a normal LED boot sequence. Without holding S2 it boots from SD (but doesn't flash). Without SD it lights 4 solid LEDs soon. Oct 11 22:33:56 OK. Oct 11 22:34:58 that sounds odd... once you've uncommented the appropriate line in /boot/uEnv.txt the card should never boot normally Oct 11 22:35:59 (the S2 button has no impact on this, it just forces the ROM bootloader to load and execute the u-boot located on SD even if one is present on eMMC) Oct 11 22:38:49 That's what I understood should happen after changing /boot/uEnv.txt. I've checked and rechecked that line. I can only verify by booting from the SD, connected to my Mac via USB, mounting the eMMC's files in a mnt/, then reading that way. Oct 11 22:39:26 I'll check messages on the serial console soon... Oct 11 22:40:57 uhh, it's talking about the /boot/uEnv.txt on the SD card Oct 11 22:41:14 oh lol, now I can guess what you managed to do Oct 11 22:41:50 I'm guessing you managed to turn the eMMC itself into a flasher card, and booted that, which then proceeded to try to reflash itself onto... itself Oct 11 22:42:15 maybe? Oct 11 22:43:02 that would at least explain why it was "done" fairly quickly and left an unbootable system on eMMC Oct 11 22:44:13 in any case, as long as you can boot normally from the sd card, you did something wrong :) Oct 11 22:44:28 in case of doubt, just download a ready-made flasher image and write that to sd card Oct 11 22:45:07 (you can find that at https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian section 6.2.2.1 ) Oct 11 22:45:59 haha -- trying to piece through your thoughts... I couldn't connect to the BBB via USB when it simply booted from eMMC (with any SD in slot). So, I booted from the SD, could then connect via USB (ssh). I looked in the /boot/uEnv.txt and it was untouched (still commented). I assumed that was the /boot on the SD. So, I mounted /dev/mmcblk1p1 to a new folder in /mnt to see the eMMC's /boot and other files. In there it was UNcommented indeed. Oct 11 22:46:16 (Thanks for taking the time right now, btw!) Oct 11 22:46:38 sounds indeed like you managed to edit the wrong one then? :) Oct 11 22:46:46 (sorry...line 2 should be (withOUT any SD in slot)) Oct 11 22:47:00 sigh... get yourself a console cable... stop working blind Oct 11 22:47:46 So should the SD card's uEnv.txt be modified, or the eMMC's uEnv.txt? Oct 11 22:47:57 aye aye. Oct 11 22:49:38 SD card's Oct 11 22:49:53 eMMC content is irrelevant, it gets erased and reflashed Oct 11 22:56:17 Man. Well, that makes it clear. It's flashing successfully after having modified uEnv.txt on the SD. :/ Thanks for patiently helping. Much appreciated. Oct 11 23:09:47 np :) Oct 11 23:34:20 anybody out there? Oct 11 23:34:28 on in here? Oct 11 23:35:49 looks like 199 people are here, ask... your question. Oct 11 23:35:51 ugh Oct 11 23:36:05 oh hi Oct 11 23:36:12 you left before I could respond Oct 11 23:36:39 people aren't always looking at their IRC client. Oct 11 23:36:54 so, just ask your question and lurk, Oct 11 23:37:07 and eventually someone will answer it when they come around. Oct 11 23:37:13 Electromechaniso, ^ Oct 11 23:37:47 oh lol Oct 11 23:39:02 so: what's your question? Oct 11 23:39:29 how much wood can a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck can chuck wood? Oct 11 23:39:29 so I recently joined a research program and have to modify a beagle bone with existing code. what is the best way to acces beaglebone code without damaging Oct 11 23:40:06 ps Im a mech engr student lol Oct 11 23:41:23 ds2, a woodchuck could chuck all of the wood that a wood chuck could chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood. Oct 11 23:41:33 Electromechaniso, could you be a little more specific? Oct 11 23:41:48 There's so much that "beaglebone code" could be referring to. Oct 11 23:42:06 the kernel? applications? write your own application to do something? Oct 11 23:42:13 u-boot? Oct 11 23:43:32 I regret to inform you, you can't modify the ROM bootloader ;) Oct 11 23:48:45 To be honest I dont know much about microcontroller programming. I'm an ME major with some basic java experience. The members of a previous research team developed an unmanned submarine controlled by an arduino and beaglebone. When they transfered, a new team was started to continue development. I was the only one with any coding experience so I was given the task of rewriting code to give full control to beaglebone Oct 11 23:49:24 so, your own application Oct 11 23:49:40 the beaglebone isn't really a microcontroller... it normally runs a linux system Oct 11 23:49:54 and a lot of it, since beaglebone is a linux device, is really just programming for a computer that runs linux. Oct 11 23:50:14 the only difference is you have access to GPIO and PRUs. Oct 11 23:50:32 (it is possible to write baremetal code for the beaglebone like you would on a microcontroller, but it's not common to do so) Oct 11 23:50:38 Someone should totally make some way to program the PRUs from the arduino IDE Oct 11 23:50:47 would make it a lot more accessible to some people Oct 11 23:51:18 There is a C compiler available at least, I think the arduino libraries would max out the program space though. Oct 11 23:51:58 even merely using the C compiler already wastes quite a bit of space I think Oct 11 23:52:35 Would java be a good option? Oct 11 23:53:04 Electromechaniso: sorry, above conversation was specifically about the PRU cores (which can only be programmed in assembly or C) Oct 11 23:53:09 According to a TI talk I watched: it's not *horrible*, they spent time optimizing it, but often dropping down to assembly lets you optimize it more. Oct 11 23:53:13 in general though, java is rarely a good option :P Oct 11 23:53:30 Electromechaniso, I would not reccomend Java, but I'm sure it's possible. Oct 11 23:54:04 Electromechaniso: Are you using XBee? Oct 11 23:55:36 Kitlith: when I did a few quick tests with the pru c compiler it seemed to do pretty dumb things. on top of that, there's some fundamental friction between C and the PRU cores since their instruction set really wasn't designed to be targeted by a C compiler Oct 11 23:55:46 I see. Oct 11 23:56:21 aand they left. Oct 11 23:56:36 Kitlith: e.g. C encourages the use of signed integer types, while PRU has no instructions for signed comparison Oct 11 23:58:01 good to know. bought a beaglebone green wireless today, should arrive Friday. Oct 11 23:58:34 bool lt3( int a ) { return a < 3; } compiles to 8 instructions last time I checked :) Oct 11 23:58:38 (at max opt) Oct 11 23:59:40 even more embarrassingly, so does return a < 0; Oct 12 00:00:02 https://gist.github.com/mvduin/db10c09436f21f3e72e25e3f26a91e32#file-demo-asm-L88-L110 <-- disassembly for those two functions Oct 12 00:00:11 Is that with the TI compiler or gcc-pru? Oct 12 00:00:18 it's possible the compiler has improved since then of course Oct 12 00:00:20 TI Oct 12 00:00:45 The TI one is proprietary I assume? Oct 12 00:01:24 of course, though it can be freely redistributed iirc Oct 12 00:29:24 Okay...I got the damn LED working. Now, I need to downgrade/change the kernel. Oct 12 00:29:36 Adafruit_BBIO has bugs in 4.9.x support. Oct 12 00:30:31 I reopened the issue on GitHub. Oct 12 00:30:45 Oops. Oct 12 00:30:47 ... Oct 12 00:31:25 How do I change modes on the BBB, e.g. specifically P8_19 to pwm mode? Oct 12 00:31:35 config-pin? Oct 12 00:31:44 something like config-pin P8_19 pwm Oct 12 00:31:48 Cool! Oct 12 00:31:58 dunno if the mode is actually called "pwm" or maybe something more elaborate Oct 12 00:32:18 there's a way to query modes available for a pin using config-pin Oct 12 00:32:33 I know. You showed me. Oct 12 00:32:42 sort, right? Oct 12 00:32:47 ? Oct 12 00:33:00 No? Oct 12 00:33:08 Someone else showed me? Oct 12 00:33:10 you seem to be confusing my show-pins script with config-pin Oct 12 00:33:18 Sorry. Oct 12 00:33:22 (I have absolutely nothing to do with config-pin) Oct 12 00:33:27 Okay. Oct 12 00:33:30 Gotcha! Oct 12 00:33:59 I meant show-pins and not sort. Oct 12 00:34:02 Sorry. Oct 12 00:35:25 show-pins obviously doesn't have any info on which modes are available for a pin when using config-pin Oct 12 00:35:33 config-pin offers that info Oct 12 00:35:54 when invoked with some command/option (I don't know config-pin very well) Oct 12 00:36:56 Okay. Oct 12 00:39:04 you know I wish I had known about lsblk before.. Oct 12 00:43:56 yeah it's nice Oct 12 01:01:37 zmatt: you need a better laser Oct 12 01:15:50 I got that sucker working. Oct 12 01:16:17 I needed to setup GPIO and GPIO.OUT and then Bang, Dang, and Goorang, the damn thing was working. Oct 12 01:17:48 Now, I can use the Internet to turn on a light and check if my door is open. Damn sucka fool Sunday in the house! Oct 12 01:22:02 BBB, who would have thunk it up? Oct 12 01:24:23 Now, I will upgrade to 4.9.x and try the software again. Oct 12 01:32:35 set_: your door is a-jar Oct 12 01:38:15 Yea boy! Oct 12 01:39:04 My notification states, "The Establishmet is Known!" and The dang door is open/closed." The latter parts depend on if the door or window is open or closed. Oct 12 01:39:48 It also sends another e-mail if the door has been open for more than 25 seconds. Oct 12 01:40:39 ...Hey man. Oct 12 01:41:12 I can actually change the brightness of the LED by webpage via Flask, Adafruit_GPIO, and Python. Oct 12 01:41:35 But...do not forget the BBB. Without the BBB, I would be lost in the woods and foraging. Oct 12 01:41:37 Ha! Oct 12 01:58:35 AT least you are using Python and Jscript Oct 12 01:58:39 err not jscript Oct 12 02:02:39 I was using some JavaScript to test LED stuff earlier on the BBB. Oct 12 02:02:54 I had to make sure my pins were configured correctly. Oct 12 02:05:33 Flask is some micro framework for Python. Oct 12 02:05:47 I found this other module on Python called pusher. Oct 12 02:05:50 I am going to try it. Oct 12 02:06:08 I signed up online. They API keys and all that shabazz. Oct 12 02:06:49 I want to graph crap over time. When stuff happens and how often it happens. Then, I will "scrape" the info. for any important changes. Who knows? Oct 12 02:14:41 :D I certainly don' Oct 12 02:14:54 t ... geesh me and keys today. Oct 12 02:15:08 No crappy graphs? Oct 12 02:17:32 There is a scientific package for python you might be able to use. Oct 12 02:17:58 That can do real time graphing of data collected for example. Oct 12 02:18:41 What is that? Oct 12 02:19:05 pusher? Oct 12 02:19:27 That one by Mat Lab? Oct 12 02:19:39 ThingSpeak? Oct 12 02:20:01 I was going to try Xively but the damn people want to charge now. Oct 12 02:23:57 Well there is NumPy and SciPy but that might be a bit heady for you. Oct 12 02:24:15 Yea...I was going to try simplistic first. Oct 12 02:24:31 Something with less defintions. Oct 12 02:25:16 Well those are scientific packages for doing complex analysis of signals and information. Oct 12 02:26:04 I'll have to check what my boss was using he may have been using numpy. He was generating real time graphs from data we were collecting and PDF's of the results etc. Oct 12 02:26:48 He could zoom in and print what was useful unlike using excel to do such things. Oct 12 02:27:03 No issue GenTooMan: I will use pusher. I already downloaded it and the dependencies. Oct 12 02:27:04 Oh. Oct 12 02:27:48 IT might be useful too you. Had a nifty GUI to work with. Oct 12 02:28:28 Oh, I really do not like GUIs unless I make them, hence why I do not like them. Oct 12 02:28:37 ... Oct 12 02:28:42 I tried Tkinter once. Oct 12 02:29:05 I failed terribly. I did use Python's turtle once. Oct 12 02:29:13 It is for graphics. Oct 12 02:30:39 set_: https://plot.ly/python/ Oct 12 02:31:19 you can use that for generating plots of data in real time if you are just mainpulating graph data there are a few tools for that as well. Oct 12 02:31:38 Yep. I found those people a while back. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 12 03:00:01 2017