**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 24 03:00:01 2017 Oct 24 11:42:55 BBwhite Ethernet pin 7 is Not Connected , pin 8 is DGN, are they safe to be used to carry power to beagle through ethernet cable ? Oct 24 12:14:13 up, up, and otay. Oct 24 14:56:09 hi all- i'm using a bbb with jessie for running a information display (not exactly what a BBB is for, but it's what I had); it runs chromium in full screen and connects to the server for content, and all is good...unless there is no usb mouse connected, in which case the screen just becomes a crosshatch pattern Oct 24 14:56:28 i've been looking in dmesg and the logs, but don't see anything that would cause this Oct 24 14:56:57 it's pretty straightforward: it's running, unplug the mouse, the screen goes from kiosk screen to the crosshatch Oct 24 14:57:12 that sounds really strange, X shouldn't give a rat's ass whether a mouse is connected or not Oct 24 14:57:15 right Oct 24 14:57:27 I've definitely never seen or heard of such an issue Oct 24 14:57:42 i've never used a bbb with a screen before, so not sure what to troubleshoot, exactly Oct 24 14:57:57 it doesn't come back if the mouse is plugged back in, it has to be rebooted Oct 24 14:59:05 I'd say first step would be to check at which step of the startup process it's hanging.... checking which processes are running might be a good start Oct 24 14:59:37 oh, it doesn't hang ever Oct 24 14:59:58 i'm logged into it right now, but i know the screen is a crosshatched mess :) Oct 24 15:00:21 ah, I misinterpreted Oct 24 15:00:30 still, checking running processes may be useful Oct 24 15:01:48 and how did you setup the autologin and autostart of chrome exactly? Oct 24 15:02:41 i have a user that logs in automatically and starts up chromium via lxsession/LXDE/autostart Oct 24 15:03:01 and configured the user to autostart in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf Oct 24 15:03:05 ok Oct 24 19:55:47 hey everyone! I'm not sure what happened to my beagleboard :l. If we plug it in with a USB or a 5V, the power flashes for a second and then turns off. Also, when we hit 'Power' when the board is plugged in, the light flashes for a second again. Oct 24 19:55:55 Could anyone help me? Oct 25 01:05:48 Who is in charge of the bbb.io website? Oct 25 01:23:25 Has anyone written a manpage for the BBB commands (if any) on Debian? Oct 25 01:23:56 i.e. maybe w/ XFCE or KDE? Oct 25 01:28:55 wat Oct 25 01:29:11 what do manpages have to do with desktop environments? Oct 25 01:30:25 oh. Oct 25 01:30:48 I thought searching for your manpage after making one could be nifty/okay/cool? Oct 25 01:31:26 Like, have you made a manpage on your BBB before? Oct 25 01:32:30 or...w/out their desktop. Oct 25 01:32:34 Yikes! Oct 25 01:33:22 There is a way to look up manpages online and via the terminal. Oct 25 01:34:25 For instance...I can write a manpage for my command on my BBB in the terminal and see if on the "Desktop" online. Oct 25 01:34:32 via web browser. Oct 25 01:38:07 Haha. Oct 25 01:43:36 Okay, okay. I figured out what happened. I was wrong. You were right. Oct 25 01:43:39 Sorry. Oct 25 01:43:44 I am stopping now. Oct 25 01:51:43 I'm still confused with how the desktop environment (xfce/kde) has anything to do with it. Oct 25 01:53:12 Oh...I thought we had manual pages on our bones. Oct 25 01:53:15 I was mistaken. Oct 25 01:53:25 you do Oct 25 01:53:29 Oh? Oct 25 01:53:34 I thought we only had help. Oct 25 01:53:37 but *what do they have to do with the desktop environment* Oct 25 01:54:06 oh, scratch that, man isn't installed by default? Oct 25 01:54:22 Nope. Oct 25 01:54:27 We can get it, though. Oct 25 01:54:35 Debian! Oct 25 01:54:38 yup Oct 25 01:54:55 still... *what does it have to do with the desktop environment* Oct 25 01:54:58 I am actually glad we went w/ Debian over Ubuntu. Oct 25 01:55:11 Oh... Oct 25 01:55:34 The desktop, once a manpage is written, can be viewd online via web page. Oct 25 01:55:44 Instead of only by terminal. Oct 25 01:56:01 Sorry. That came out wrong. Oct 25 01:56:10 ... Oct 25 01:56:52 It has to do w/ desktops b/c you can go online and view the "self-written" manpage online via web browser. Oct 25 01:57:41 BBB Desktop or Debian Desktop, either/or. Oct 25 01:57:43 Wouldn't you need to update the website that you're trying to view it on with the new man page? Oct 25 01:58:12 Good question. Oct 25 01:59:07 No. You mean like publish the site? Oct 25 01:59:15 No, you do not have to. Oct 25 01:59:28 How are you viewing these man pages online? Oct 25 02:00:20 via web browser. Please hold. Let me read it again. Oct 25 02:01:57 Konqueror is a web browser one could use if you were using your text editor. Oct 25 02:03:41 man:/name where name is your "self-made" manpage. Oct 25 02:04:45 ... Oct 25 02:04:50 Are you messing w/ me? Oct 25 02:05:07 oh, I wasn't aware that there was a protocol name for that. Oct 25 02:05:18 honestly didn't know about that. Oct 25 02:05:26 sorry Oct 25 02:05:28 It could help out. I was passing along info. Oct 25 02:05:36 More info. = more betta' Oct 25 02:06:46 I think, for instance, man:/ls(1) would bring you to the manpage for ls for "user commands." Oct 25 02:07:22 ... Oct 25 02:07:23 try ie Oct 25 02:07:25 *it Oct 25 02:07:28 Okay. Oct 25 02:07:30 Please hold. Oct 25 02:07:49 First, I have to figure out how to get manpages at least (1) on my machine. Oct 25 02:08:12 I only have so much space. Oct 25 02:08:47 I expanded the SD card but it is only 8GB right now. Oct 25 02:16:18 It will only allow me to download the entire package. Oct 25 02:16:54 they have a git clone mechanism. Oct 25 02:17:26 I guess I cannot do it w/ my lack of space. Oct 25 02:17:28 Boo! Oct 25 02:17:43 Bigger SD cards are in my future...now onto looking for work. Oct 25 02:19:49 I even went to git to look around. Notta. No go. Oct 25 02:22:04 I guess I could write the manpage on my Linux Desktop, cross-compile, and then add it to the BBB, heh? Oct 25 02:22:32 Would that be called backwards-cross-compiling? Sounds interesting. Oct 25 02:23:49 ... Oct 25 02:27:29 Kitlith: Do you ever search info:/? Oct 25 02:27:51 I don't think either of those are available on firefox. Oct 25 02:28:00 man and info? Oct 25 02:28:34 man:/ and info:/ don't exist for me. Oct 25 02:28:37 Odd. Oct 25 02:28:40 Please hold. Oct 25 02:28:43 Let me check FireFox. Oct 25 02:29:20 http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/index.html are our manpages. Oct 25 02:29:37 It should be as easy as man:/ Oct 25 02:30:07 man7.org has only the manpages that that website already has Oct 25 02:30:15 and anyway, no, that doesn't exist for me. Oct 25 02:30:42 https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/index.html#SEC_Contents Oct 25 02:30:43 Use that. Oct 25 02:30:57 That is the info:/ stuff. Oct 25 02:31:24 what does this have to do with anything? Oct 25 02:31:44 Nothing. I thought you might like extra tools for Linux and the BBB. Oct 25 02:33:07 Kitlith: I bet if we, yes...we, got together online, yes...online, to propose this idea. We could make headway. Oct 25 02:33:19 wait what? Oct 25 02:33:37 ...We can set up specific commands to help the BBB realm. Oct 25 02:34:07 I found other systems. I like this one. Oct 25 02:38:10 We just need to read Man(7). Oct 25 02:39:29 There is a command called groff and we can set up the "fake" manpage w/ it. It will take more reading on our part, though. Oct 25 02:40:05 why do you want to create a manpage? Oct 25 02:40:30 To simplify. We, or I, could use manpages to simplify. Oct 25 02:41:52 how? Oct 25 02:42:12 Man(7) and groff for now. Oct 25 02:42:33 no, how does manpages simplify something? Oct 25 02:43:23 Manpages give ideas on each command. Their arguements, the parameters/options, and command are all associated. Oct 25 02:44:00 w/ a manpage on, "PROJECT," specific ways to do things, it could turn easy to do stuff. Oct 25 02:44:26 ... Oct 25 02:45:34 Now, how do we write this to the BBB? This is the question. QEMU, debootstrap, or something else? I am stuck in clueless land on cross-compiling. Oct 25 02:49:54 man page format is platform agnostic tho? could be wrong. Oct 25 02:51:34 it is cool. I can do it in time. You do not need to participate. We can do other tasks, right? Oct 25 02:52:46 oh...it was a question. Good question. Oct 25 02:52:50 I will look it up. Oct 25 02:54:30 Actually, this damn book only has the KDE and Konqueror browser example. Damn it! Oct 25 02:56:03 I bet we can find out what we use, i.e Swift browser right? Then, we can see if the Swift Browser has a particular terminal, e.g. Korn, Bash, or whatever. Oct 25 02:57:02 ...Nevermind. Oct 25 02:57:05 Yikes! Oct 25 02:57:27 I am lacking the browser we use for the BBB. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 25 03:00:02 2017