**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 29 03:00:02 2017 Dec 29 03:00:29 MrOlsen: you're not making much sense to me Dec 29 03:02:32 if you're using the latest image, you can control which overlays are being used via /boot/uEnv.txt ... although I'm not sure to which degree the blue uses any overlays by default at all, apart from cape-universal and one of the pru overlays Dec 29 03:03:26 (actually, even if you're using an older image, that's still the place to control which overlays are used, although not quite as convenient as it is in the most recent images) Dec 29 03:03:54 are there any good ground-up step-by-step tutorials for arducopter on the blue? I feel like writing one might be a really good exercise. Dec 29 03:08:00 * zmatt has no idea obviously Dec 29 07:19:53 So I am reading a guide on eeprom programming with bonescript (eeprom.js). The guide at http://azkeller.com/blog/?p=62 says that I can use eeprom.js from the command line, like "# node ./eeprom.js -h" ... however when I do that, the script does not return anything. Has the command line interactivity been removed? The guide seems to refer to a much earlier version of bonescript. Is cloud 9 offering any of Dec 29 07:19:55 these advanced features for the bbb built-in or is it more a generic cloud IDE? Dec 29 07:23:45 (I could not find any command line capabilities in the eeprom.js source) Dec 29 07:32:50 has anybody found a networking tool in debianstretch 9.1 or 9.2 for the bb black. something like wicd or whatever. Dec 29 07:37:06 I believe a lot of people use ConnMan Dec 29 07:37:12 Wheezy had Wicd and it worked good. the Debian Stretch 9.x for RPi has raspi-conf ( or somethng like that) which sets everything up. Dec 29 07:37:40 is there a man page for it? Dec 29 07:37:47 on the BBB? Dec 29 07:38:00 man connman works for me Dec 29 07:39:40 not for me. it says> man command not found Dec 29 07:41:26 So man is missing from your image? Dec 29 07:41:55 yup Dec 29 07:42:00 sudo apt install man-db ? Dec 29 07:42:33 cant. cant get out the dang door cause networking aint workin Dec 29 07:42:50 or wifi part isnt Dec 29 07:43:14 the other choiuces are not an option, unfortunatly Dec 29 07:43:18 well if it is just about dhcp for your ethernet then systemd-networkd should be fine, I had used that on Archarm before Dec 29 07:44:47 dont know Archarm been using my rPi even copying wpa_supplicant and /etc/network/interfaces to the BBB, but cant get out the door Dec 29 07:45:12 why don't you bridge the USB port? Dec 29 07:45:43 netstat says I finally have a route to the gateway. but stuff isnt even leaving the BBB can ping localhost ok Dec 29 07:45:59 to what? my Ipad? Dec 29 07:46:20 apple kinda crappy bout that. Dec 29 07:47:04 long and short, if I cant get out via wifi, I'm SOL Dec 29 07:47:51 connman should be preinstalled no? If not re-flash with a more complete image that has the tools you need to get going Dec 29 07:48:06 I finally set a static IP for the wifi in interfaces, and that solved a few problems Dec 29 07:48:26 see if the command connmanctl exists Dec 29 07:48:34 what image might that be? Dec 29 07:48:47 connman correct spelling ? Dec 29 07:48:56 connmanctl Dec 29 07:49:02 is the interactive command line tool Dec 29 07:49:06 easy to use Dec 29 07:51:45 never seen it before but did just do connmanctl --help and got a big screen full of stuff. Dec 29 07:52:51 so basically connmanctl -> scan wifi -> services -> agent on -> connect wifi_.... -> enter passphrase -> quit Dec 29 07:53:19 IIRC, and if it works it will remember the credentials and auto connect next time Dec 29 07:53:54 I bet debian wiki has stuff on this, see there Dec 29 07:55:53 you put those arrows in there in one commandline or are those subsequent commands Dec 29 07:56:17 subsequent, start the program you will see Dec 29 07:59:26 yeah Dec 29 07:59:43 got down to connect.... Dec 29 08:00:00 services gave a blank response Dec 29 08:01:22 old keyboard so only single quotes where doubles belong..... Dec 29 08:03:34 -- connect wifi error /net/connman/service/wifi ; method 'connect with signature '' '' on interface 'net.comnman.service' doesnt exist. Dec 29 08:03:59 no upper case either or rather no shift. Dec 29 08:05:54 uhm you might want to ask someone for a laptop 8) I'd see if the #debian channel can help you out, this problem seems not really bbb specific Dec 29 08:07:09 found or relocated interfaces and it had the connman lines you showed here. Dec 29 08:07:48 but keep getting a blank response to Services Dec 29 08:08:23 connect wifi Dec 29 08:09:37 wrong keyboard. Dec 29 08:11:06 i'm gonna uncomment those connman lines and reboot. see what happens Dec 29 08:13:04 i'm gonna uncomment those connman lines and reboot. see what happens Dec 29 08:13:19 but what service Dec 29 08:14:24 wifi, right Dec 29 08:20:35 you wouldnt be looking at that interfaces file would you / Dec 29 08:21:02 are you using the 9.1 or 9.2 image / Dec 29 08:21:25 /=question mark Dec 29 08:21:32 paste to pastebin and send link I can compare with mine but got a bbbw Dec 29 08:23:09 cant no network access on my bbb. none whatever. Dec 29 08:23:15 before see if service connman is started at all Dec 29 08:23:27 sudo systemctl status connman.service Dec 29 08:24:01 connmanctl is working. have sent it commands and it responded Dec 29 08:24:19 but see if service is running of failing Dec 29 08:25:02 am getting some errors Dec 29 08:25:13 on speccific commands Dec 29 08:25:48 so I'd try systemctl enable connman, systemctl start connman, check journalctl -xe Dec 29 08:28:54 and i tried to edit that dang interfaces as a users so all work wasted Dec 29 08:29:39 something something learning experience *duck* Dec 29 08:29:53 ready to reboot. let you know what happens when the smoke clears Dec 29 08:30:03 haha good luck Dec 29 08:33:04 gotta hold the dang s2 boot key to boot to the sdcard. Dec 29 08:33:24 somebody had to go screw with the boot process. Dec 29 08:33:51 like debian screwing with the wifi networking parameters and syntax Dec 29 08:37:26 no smoke but no workie Dec 29 08:39:26 I'd refresh or ask the Debian folks I can't really help you with this Dec 29 08:40:45 *reflash Dec 29 08:41:11 journalctl only asbout 100 pages or so Dec 29 08:41:29 i'm further behind now than 40 minutes ago Dec 29 08:47:10 this is weird Dec 29 08:47:30 typed connmanctl services Dec 29 08:48:24 got two ssids functioning in the area but with very long strings after them. no idea what they are, what to do with them Dec 29 08:48:38 you can use tab key to complete Dec 29 08:48:52 connect wifi_... Dec 29 08:53:31 cdno Dec 29 08:53:36 no Dec 29 08:57:17 maybe it did says connected wifi-.... Dec 29 08:58:19 it *is* connected finally able to ping out Dec 29 08:58:57 thanks you say this will be static now or that is will come back when i reboot Dec 29 08:59:39 wow ok congrats lol Dec 29 08:59:49 should be stored peristently Dec 29 09:00:43 try: systemctl restart connman and see if it reconnects. Works for me. Dec 29 09:00:56 you can keep journalctl -f open to see the progress right away Dec 29 09:02:10 hell, i cant even get ifconfig wlan0 to work no more1 Dec 29 09:02:33 ifconfig is really old man ... Dec 29 09:02:37 ip a Dec 29 09:02:39 ip r Dec 29 09:02:41 hang on, gotta write some of this down Dec 29 09:03:02 you have an interesting workflow. Dec 29 09:06:04 not really, why write it down if it dont work Dec 29 09:10:23 ok, reboot and test for max smoke Dec 29 09:11:53 i'll test when it comes back up with ' ping z' z is a budd in SAT Dec 29 09:13:34 just what i expected11 it's down Dec 29 09:15:22 i dont believe this crap..ifconfig no longer a valid command Dec 29 09:16:11 in fact, almost all my work is gone Dec 29 09:22:02 dont misunderstand...;NOT blaming you. i hit something somewhere1 Dec 29 09:41:03 fasle you still here/ Dec 29 09:48:22 fasle i remmed out my lines for auto wlan0 and a static ip and related, then remmed BACKout the connmanctl lines in interfaces. Dec 29 09:48:47 when i rebooted no more connection. Dec 29 09:49:23 so i went back and un-remmed those line again so they would be active. Dec 29 09:49:58 when i rebooted, connection was on and i had my static ip i wanted. Dec 29 09:51:22 bottom line the old lines needed in previous versions of debian like wheezy and jessie are still needed. so is wpa supplicant apparently. Dec 29 09:52:20 now tho, you have to use connmanctl to first establish connection before all the other will work. Dec 29 09:52:34 i guess welcome to systemd, i dont know Dec 29 09:56:01 hey i hace problem i cant conect with ssh Dec 29 09:56:41 i try ssh root@192.168.7.2 and i get time conection error Dec 29 09:56:53 can some one help me? Dec 29 11:02:24 hi Dec 29 11:02:35 hello Dec 29 11:02:44 can any one help on the below error Dec 29 11:03:05 root@ravindar-ThinkCentre-Edge71:/home/ravindar/practiceprograms/examples# scp gpioisr debain@192.168.7.2:~/ debain@192.168.7.2's password: Permission denied, please try again. Dec 29 11:03:21 i am new to it Dec 29 11:04:10 i am copying file from host machine to beagle bone Dec 29 11:04:24 i am getting permission denied error Dec 29 11:04:53 what i have to do ? Dec 29 13:25:10 myself: thanks for response at 02:57:17 I had to go bed :) Dec 29 15:53:21 Morning Dec 29 16:09:23 So on the beaglebone blue something has pin 9:21 locked. I have minimal services enabled in systemd, is there an easy way to see what could have a lock a pin Dec 29 16:22:01 Hi folks Dec 29 16:22:24 Anyone here use gsl1680 touchscreen controller? Dec 29 16:26:47 zmatt: Hi, i find a problem in your sgx userspace stuffs.when i installed your package and after rebooting my beagle did not start any systemd services.i added " [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target " to sgx-init.service and now everthing work Dec 29 16:27:20 is that a common controller? Dec 29 16:28:15 here is a userspace driver : https://github.com/a69/gsl1680 Dec 29 16:28:19 is it safe to assume it's an I2C controller or does it use SPI bus? Dec 29 16:28:39 it is i2c Dec 29 16:29:26 in the datasheet point to the address 0x40 in i2c Dec 29 16:29:35 did you do an i2c scan to verify that? Dec 29 16:29:58 sometimes depending on the vendor you got it from different pins are shorted to change the address Dec 29 16:30:43 plz take a look : https://paste.ubuntu.com/26279028/ Dec 29 16:31:30 never mind the spec says it only supports a signle address Dec 29 16:32:16 datasheet : http://www.buydisplay.com/download/ic/GSL1680.pdf Dec 29 16:32:56 i use this dts for my LCD.should i change any PIN or other stuff there? https://github.com/beagleboard/bb.org-overlays/blob/master/src/arm/BB-BONE-LCD5-01-00A1.dts Dec 29 16:35:31 even without the DTS the i2c device should probe Dec 29 16:35:58 0x40 is blank -- if it was drive occupied it should have shown UU Dec 29 16:40:57 MrOlsen: What is the problem so? Dec 29 16:41:20 just to viery your clock and data pins aren't reversed are they? Dec 29 16:42:12 also what is the device you're using? Dec 29 16:43:02 beaglebone black + LCD=http://www.buydisplay.com/default/5-tft-lcd-display-module-wvga-800x480-high-resolution-for-mp4-gps Dec 29 16:43:32 LCD working well with the mentioned dts Dec 29 16:45:45 mehdi: I think I used a service dependency from our gui service to the sgx-init.service Dec 29 16:46:06 and the panel ribbons go to a breakout board? Dec 29 16:48:26 Yes, evolution baord Dec 29 16:48:29 board Dec 29 16:50:15 can you link to that board too? I'm really curious, cuz that's a great price Dec 29 16:50:49 Hello , if anybody can help me lost in france .... i work with bbb and no more connection , no ip , no ssh , no ping , led are blinking but no way to connect ... Dec 29 16:51:25 connected via ethernet or usb ? Dec 29 16:51:40 what did you do to trigger this state? Dec 29 16:51:50 i've a ethernet conectioon , 2 leds on Dec 29 16:51:52 do you have a UART adaptor you could try getting on the console port with? Or do you have a microSD card you can write a clean OS to and try booting from? Dec 29 16:52:07 usb , no response on 192.168.7.2 Dec 29 16:52:44 ok solution is to reboot from sd card i think Dec 29 16:53:03 i've no uart adaptator Dec 29 16:53:46 thank's to you for help Dec 29 16:53:57 mehdi: the touch panel, that ribbon is daisychained off the diplays 40 pin ribbon or has a seperate connector to connect into the BB? Dec 29 16:54:21 SD boot is the easiest troubleshooting step, especially if you already have one prepared that you can just set aside as a known-good boot medium Dec 29 16:54:49 if you're playing with boot configs, having a spare SD card is a good way to stay sane :P Dec 29 16:54:51 i'll try Dec 29 16:55:09 you still haven't mentioned what you did to trigger this problem :P Dec 29 16:57:32 MrOlsen: seperate. https://pasteboard.co/H0tJb2Y.jpg Dec 29 17:08:56 ok Dec 29 17:10:03 What can i do? i am confused. Dec 29 17:20:59 mehdi: thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for :) I think zmatt's question was for wactor17, about what led to the bbb problem Dec 29 17:23:27 What is your problem? Dec 29 17:26:34 I'm trying to find the spec for the cape Dec 29 17:26:43 just to make sure there isn't something in particular that needs to be done Dec 29 20:58:04 heyyy, jadon's back! Dec 29 21:04:30 jkridner: slightly trimed log, but basically, bbblue's may blow themselves up if the GPS port is used as intended: https://pastebin.ca/3953079 Dec 29 21:49:55 122 root -51 0 0 0 0 S 5.5 0.0 9:38.34 irq/166-4819c00 Dec 29 21:50:06 oops Dec 29 21:51:14 Hi all, I found one beaglebone black + can adaptor at my home inside CAN gateway (heating system). I was planning to get rpi3 with CAN board, but I have it already. What I need to get access to BBB. I never used BBB, found that microHDMI is needed (I have none) and there is no microSD card there. Because of holidays microHDMI cable will arrive on 4th of January. Any luck to get into without HDMI and FDDI cable ? Dec 29 21:52:01 do you have an arduino uno/mega/etc? Dec 29 21:52:18 I see only ssh and http ports open. What are default bbb user/password ? Dec 29 21:52:29 probably debian/temppwd Dec 29 21:53:13 22/tcp open ssh OpenSSH 6.0p1 Debian 4+deb7u2 (protocol 2.0) Dec 29 21:53:14 80/tcp open http Node.js Express framework Dec 29 21:53:55 MrOlsen: no luck with debian/temppwd. No arduino/mega :( Dec 29 21:54:25 I need get root on this device :) Dec 29 21:56:05 maybe it ws changed, it should be debian/temppwd Dec 29 21:56:10 what happens at the web interface? Dec 29 21:56:33 it's vendor's web ui Dec 29 21:57:14 device http://www.heizungdirekt24.de/Rotex/Oel-Brennwertkessel/ROTEX-Gateway-RoCon-G1.html Dec 29 21:57:35 they sell beaglebone black + CAN module for 224,00 EUR Dec 29 21:58:45 https://0bin.link/paste/GdZwErFc#GVTcUywTzyZ7Is2ZRjiWtfVuKUNf-qhdTVsdxzNRye7 Dec 29 21:58:52 that's webui Dec 29 21:59:07 thats so interesting Dec 29 21:59:23 someone putting a BBB into a finished commercial product Dec 29 21:59:30 I can confirm that Dec 29 21:59:31 instead of stamping their own board Dec 29 21:59:36 pretty cool actually Dec 29 21:59:38 I was wondered Dec 29 21:59:49 do you want to see photos ? Dec 29 21:59:57 well Dec 29 22:00:02 you can make an SD card Dec 29 22:00:04 it's even branded plastic case Dec 29 22:00:15 and boot the SD card by holding the SD switch Dec 29 22:00:23 but to start from SD card I need delete some file from "internal" storage Dec 29 22:00:24 that will have the default debian/temppwd Dec 29 22:00:40 it uses DHCP ? Dec 29 22:00:43 yes Dec 29 22:00:46 default image Dec 29 22:00:51 yes Dec 29 22:01:05 * eject_ck checking where is a switch Dec 29 22:01:08 then you can mount the interal flash storage and change the password if you want to leave that intact Dec 29 22:02:42 yes, gotcha Dec 29 22:02:54 thank you Dec 29 22:03:01 what image to use ? Dec 29 22:03:02 Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.08.21.img.xz ? Dec 29 22:03:10 I need something tiny Dec 29 22:03:22 * eject_ck searching for photos Dec 29 22:04:43 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Dec 29 22:05:13 you can get Stretch or Stretch non-gui Dec 29 22:07:29 https://debian.beagleboard.org/images/bone-debian-9.2-iot-armhf-2017-10-10-4gb.img.xz Dec 29 22:07:32 this ? Dec 29 22:08:25 yes Dec 29 22:18:17 https://anonimage.net/gallery/hI3laPfJtK photos Dec 29 22:20:24 where is SD switch ? Dec 29 22:20:31 https://elinux.org/File:CONN_REVA5A.jpg Dec 29 22:20:34 can't find it Dec 29 22:20:43 its on the round end Dec 29 22:20:47 above the SD slot Dec 29 22:21:40 https://anonimage.net/image/7dWHi88xGu Dec 29 22:21:44 btw how identify revision of this board? Dec 29 22:21:54 above D7 Dec 29 22:21:58 I'll brb Dec 29 22:22:05 going to get some AMMO Dec 29 22:22:08 before the weekend Dec 29 22:22:34 aka boot switch? Dec 29 22:22:36 but that is the switch Dec 29 22:22:37 yeah Dec 29 22:22:39 BOOT Dec 29 22:22:43 will select to boot from SD Dec 29 22:22:51 thanks Dec 29 22:22:59 press and hold during boot ? Dec 29 22:23:05 press before adding power Dec 29 22:23:06 yes Dec 29 22:23:10 ok be back in an hour Dec 29 22:23:35 how long ? Dec 29 22:23:44 MrOlsen: your are The Man! Dec 29 22:33:49 can I somehow boot bone-debian-9.2-iot-armhf-2017-10-10-4gb.img.xz on my Macbook Pro hardware ? Dec 29 22:34:06 using some emulator Virtualbox / etc. ?] Dec 29 22:34:19 just to test it before placing into beaglebone Dec 29 22:46:39 Hm maybe with Qemu, but then still you probably cannot test the GPIO pins effectively. Virtualbox and others are mostly limited to x86 architecture. I'd just run Debian in a virtualbox unless you have a specific test case where the beaglebone changes to the vanilla image are important. Dec 29 22:48:24 Or: buy a used beaglebone and use that as testing platform. This way you have a replacement part available, and your family won't hate you when the heating systems fails because of ~updates~ Dec 29 22:57:59 false, I just want start it Dec 29 22:58:19 anybody tried Qemu with beaglebone ? Dec 29 22:58:20 an emulator wouldn't teach you anything, just that the image boots Dec 29 22:58:37 your main concern is not accidentally blowing away the emmc once you've booted the sd Dec 29 22:58:43 I need just check default settings and maybe check couple startup scripts Dec 29 22:59:21 once you've written the card you should be able to mount it from any linux box Dec 29 22:59:22 myself: to flash emmc I have to to at least one stupid step ? Dec 29 22:59:50 My neighbour turned off his wifi router this evening :) Dec 29 23:00:06 Okay, so way back in history, there were "flasher" images, that would begin overwriting the emmc as soon as you booted them from sd, but I don't think those have been current in forever Dec 29 23:00:07 can't get any "big" linux distro Dec 29 23:00:21 so assuming you didn't accidentally download one of those, I tihnk you're fine Dec 29 23:00:24 I'm planning to use this one bone-debian-9.2-iot-armhf-2017-10-10-4gb.img.xz  Dec 29 23:00:36 dcfldd if=bone-debian-9.2-iot-armhf-2017-10-10-4gb.img bs=1024 of=/dev/rdisk3 Dec 29 23:00:36 815872 blocks (796Mb) written. Dec 29 23:01:12 that should be fine Dec 29 23:02:43 okay, question, what's the consequence of completely destroying this part of your heating system? Do you freeze to death, or do you just lose the ability to change the temperature from your phone? Dec 29 23:03:22 thanks, sorry for off-topic question, but I guess most of people there asked this question there - what are current write speed limits for microSD cards when flashing image? Dec 29 23:03:54 my current card write speed is super slow Dec 29 23:04:13 huh? I dunno, but some cards don't work for video recording in cameras because they're too slow, so that's normal Dec 29 23:05:07 microSD Karte mit einer Übertragungsgeschwindigkeit von 95 MB/s lesend und 20 MB/s schreibend Dec 29 23:05:27 it's from Amazon - 20MB/s - in fact my current write speed is 1MB/s Dec 29 23:05:52 you're probably using a USB card reader that's not connecting to the card in UHS mode Dec 29 23:07:39 I've noticed on my own laptop, putting a card in the native SD slot (which is on PCIe and does UHS) is about 5x faster than putting the same card in a cheap USB2 reader. Dec 29 23:09:04 it's Apple native card reader Dec 29 23:09:40 https://anonimage.net/image/FrguZfugHC Dec 29 23:09:43 Dunno then. Some cards get slow before they fail, so maybe prudent to verify that before booting it Dec 29 23:10:09 According to Apple, the SD card slot uses the USB bus, so it caps out at 480Mbps. Dec 29 23:10:36 I just bought that 32GB card and flashed it once (actually with raspbian) Dec 29 23:10:56 I'm testing some USB sticks I just bought in a ten-pack, and the only one that's failed so far (I'm using h2testw) was also writing at about half the speed of the others before it came up with a verify fail Dec 29 23:14:42 wow Dec 29 23:15:05 where to read about "boot switch" magic ? Dec 29 23:21:28 "boot switch" magic? Dec 29 23:26:02 zmatt: above MrOlsen suggested to use it to boot from SD card Dec 29 23:26:39 booting from sd card generally doesn't require powering up with S2 button held down, although it doesn't hurt Dec 29 23:27:33 the S2 button (sampled at power-up, not at reboot/reset) determines whether the bootloader (u-boot) gets loaded from eMMC or SD card Dec 29 23:27:58 it usually doesn't matter too much, since the bootloader on eMMC will still try to boot linux from SD card before booting linux from eMMC Dec 29 23:28:46 but it helps to avoid accidently using some combination of ancient bootloader and recent kernel or vice versa Dec 29 23:29:30 if the system flashed to eMMC and the system on SD card are roughly of the same age, then using S2 button is probably unnecessary Dec 29 23:29:33 whoooooooooooah, okay, I missed that detail Dec 29 23:29:49 the bootloader on eMMC will still boot a kernel from the SD card first? Dec 29 23:30:03 that explains why my SD card was booting even though I didn't have the button held Dec 29 23:30:06 yes, the default boot script tries SD card first Dec 29 23:30:08 * myself brain asplode Dec 29 23:30:23 of course you can build a custom u-boot that doesn't do that (we do) Dec 29 23:34:20 do try to clean up any chunks of brain you scattered around ;) Dec 29 23:38:31 I kept assuming I'd corrupted my emmc or something because the sd card was booting preferentially and I thought it would only fall through to that if the emmc failed, or if the button was held. I'm an idiot. That explains a lot now. Dec 29 23:39:22 zmatt: wow, cool Dec 29 23:39:38 waiting when my dd will finish copying image to sd card Dec 29 23:40:39 zmatt: where to check used @ BBB u-boot source code ? Dec 29 23:40:55 default boot script(s) Dec 29 23:42:49 zmatt: well I'm not sure what Rotex put there Dec 29 23:42:55 fingers crossed Dec 29 23:42:59 uhh, it's... somewhere Dec 29 23:45:25 easiest way to reproduce rcn's u-boot seems to be to grab a vanilla u-boot release and them apply the appropriate patch(es): 0001-am335x_evm-uEnv.txt-bootz-n-fixes.patch and (for recent versions) 0002-U-Boot-BeagleBone-Cape-Manager.patch in the appropriate subdir of https://rcn-ee.com/repos/git/u-boot-patches/ Dec 29 23:45:54 you can also obtain the boot scripts by using the 'printenv' command in the u-boot CLI Dec 29 23:46:41 hurray :) Dec 29 23:46:50 it started from SD card Dec 29 23:50:49 back Dec 29 23:50:52 how'd you make out eject? Dec 29 23:51:03 MrOlsen: I got into my emmc Dec 29 23:51:10 found root account Dec 29 23:51:16 changed the password? Dec 29 23:51:19 will make image copy first Dec 29 23:51:26 nice! Dec 29 23:51:38 I think I'm going to port my OS over to the BB Dec 29 23:51:49 MrOlsen: thanks Dec 29 23:51:56 the hardwares used are open enough that it shouldn't be too hard to write drivers Dec 29 23:52:01 eject_ok: NP Dec 29 23:52:05 btw, current u-boot not required me to press button Dec 29 23:52:35 I have other interesting object to learn in my garage with QNX :) Dec 29 23:53:23 MrOlsen: most of the AM335x is quite well documented Dec 29 23:53:48 biggest exception is some of the security stuff, like the interconnect firewalls and the crypto accelerators Dec 29 23:54:23 Oh... parts I don't need initially Dec 29 23:54:54 Ended up getting a ruger 10/22 semi Dec 29 23:54:57 will be a nice gift for my sun Dec 29 23:55:10 in general the interconnect is barely documented for the AM335x, though it's quite recently documented for the related DM814x Dec 29 23:55:15 *decently Dec 29 23:55:57 debug stuff is fairly documented in the DM816x's TRM Dec 29 23:56:26 (the debug subsystem of the AM335x is basically identical to the DM816x and DM814x) Dec 29 23:58:14 I kinda still want to port the baremetal Forth system I wrote for the DM814x to the AM335x Dec 30 00:02:47 dd if=/dev/mmcblk1p1 bs=1M of=/mnt/mmcblk1.fs Dec 30 00:02:47 3647+0 records in Dec 30 00:02:47 3647+0 records out Dec 30 00:02:47 3824156672 bytes (3.8 GB, 3.6 GiB) copied, 217.119 s, 17.6 MB/s Dec 30 00:03:01 copied to SSD disk via USB - SATA cable Dec 30 00:03:07 nicely done Dec 30 00:03:21 zmatt: you're Forth system supports virtual memory or it's all flat model? Dec 30 00:04:08 look unmount doing "sync" :) Dec 30 00:04:16 *umount* Dec 30 00:04:53 it sets up the mmu and had functions for mapping memory, but I just used that for configuring memory type and cacheability Dec 30 00:06:08 I vaguely wanted to implement page mapping to be able to get some extra safety by keeping unmapped guard pages around stack and return stack Dec 30 00:06:18 but wasn't really high on my priority list Dec 30 01:30:57 zmatt: did you do it just for fun or did it serve a purpose? Dec 30 01:43:50 the original purpose was to make it easy to test and debug the hardware Dec 30 02:08:03 is it just me/mine or is chromium for 9.x in bbb afu Dec 30 02:14:59 * zmatt sudders at the thought of even trying Dec 30 02:15:04 *shudder Dec 30 02:16:51 trying what /chromium or 9.x Dec 30 02:17:05 chrome/chromium on the bb Dec 30 02:19:07 i can understand that.. Dec 30 02:20:37 seems its afu out of the box. when i finally got some networking up on wifi --unstable too- tried an update and that said there were 3 apps that could be upgraded chromium was one of them Dec 30 02:21:56 bonescript and c9-core-installer were the other 2. could get none of them to install Dec 30 02:22:23 neither of them are things I use, so can't really give advice on that Dec 30 02:24:59 i hadnt either but then i'd only heard of bonescript Dec 30 02:25:46 chromium on the 9.x for rpi aint nuttin to be too proud of either but at least it works Dec 30 02:26:38 i cant get chromium on the BBB to even find something on the local network in spite of the fact i can ping it Dec 30 02:26:44 it should definitely work, unless it just fails to work entirely due to lack of ram Dec 30 02:26:49 that sounds odd Dec 30 02:27:28 before you go thinking i love the pi too much, suffice it to say NO Dec 30 02:27:42 well there's no way this is related to the hardware in any case Dec 30 02:28:09 just sounds like there's something wonky with the system Dec 30 02:28:10 no, dont think so either. seems to work in angstrom Dec 30 02:28:55 i'd agree 9.x on BBB not ready for primetime hi hi Dec 30 02:29:59 debian stretch on BBB works fine Dec 30 02:30:06 took me all day yesterday to get networking up and then only with fasle help.steps that have worked before in debian are just insufficient on 9.x bbb Dec 30 02:30:29 i wouldnt say fine, but it does work Dec 30 02:30:51 I've used it without problems for probably a year now Dec 30 02:31:12 really Dec 30 02:31:15 I use systemd-networkd as network manager, fwiw Dec 30 02:31:54 * old keyboard here, rather defunct no shift key and that's the one all the punctuation needs* Dec 30 02:32:29 plenty of punctuation requires no shift key Dec 30 02:32:38 yesterday was hot-swapping keyboards all day. really slows things down Dec 30 02:33:03 Heh. USB lets you have an arbitrary number of keyboards and mice plugged in at once. Dec 30 02:33:07 which leads to some fun pranks, btw. Dec 30 02:33:16 all the stuff on the top row of the numbers do. and several others as well Dec 30 02:34:33 need one keyboard for the desktop and one for the BBB * caps there courtesy of caps-lock butthat dont work on the numbers row ** Dec 30 02:35:41 you could also use an on-screen keyboard maybe? Dec 30 02:35:57 does a GUI work well on the BBB? Dec 30 02:35:59 one critical key is the 2. the at sign is above that as well as the brades over [ and or the pipe over \ Dec 30 02:36:02 doesn't it only have 512mb ram Dec 30 02:36:29 think that's right Dec 30 02:36:56 I've seen plenty of GUI in 4MB of RAM, with another 1MB on the video card, I don't know why everyone's so anxious for more :P Dec 30 02:37:07 running Chromium? Dec 30 02:37:08 which contributes to the slowness cause you cant use swap on an sdcard. well, you could but... Dec 30 02:37:20 i saw there is a third party that maintains an embedded chromium Dec 30 02:37:26 but I can't imagine it'd be fun to use Dec 30 02:39:31 yeah, how would you ever update it orfix any bugs Dec 30 02:41:14 beats me, but I see people do all sorts of stuff. i try to stay with iot at low power Dec 30 02:44:02 you guys are running your BBB on 4GB sdcards Dec 30 02:45:34 i'm running on a 16gb card here right now but booted ubuntu14.04 from a usb stick and used gparted to resize. Dec 30 02:46:48 that's something else the rpi guys did right. the 9.x imagesthey burn, will automatically resize to fit the card before first boot-up Dec 30 02:47:06 i'm jealous111 Dec 30 02:47:18 uh oh, blackout Dec 30 02:47:30 another one every day11 Dec 30 02:47:41 but my bbb wasnt protected Dec 30 02:47:50 going down here. Dec 30 02:58:19 A 5k Ohm resistor should be ok for an i2c pullup if I dont have a 4.2k at hand, right? One slave device connected. Dec 30 02:59:41 yeah :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 30 03:00:01 2017