**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 18 03:00:04 2018 May 18 04:05:41 evening May 18 09:18:47 dear all May 18 09:19:07 i'm looking into BeagleBone Black Wireless hardware May 18 09:19:31 do you know if it is possible to configure MONITO \ PROMISCUE mode for that WIFI chipset? May 18 10:36:41 Hello , I would like to know - what should I install on my beaglebone to have guest VMs, May 18 10:37:04 Please help May 18 10:37:46 the cortex-a8 has no hardware virtualization support May 18 10:38:21 if you want to run linux guests, consider using containers instead May 18 10:39:43 Will the container allow me to have GUI ? May 18 10:40:07 let's take a few steps back. What are you trying to do in general? May 18 10:40:14 Guest could be android and linux May 18 10:41:10 Hi, I was wondering how to get the beagleboard-x15 to work with code composer studio and jtag debugger? May 18 10:41:26 The normal am5728 ti doesnt work for me May 18 10:41:35 *preset May 18 10:42:08 I am trying to have a hypervisor on which I could run guest OS(android, linux,mac..) and run some apps ...read about KVM , but confused between KVM or QEMU that should be it May 18 10:43:01 the beaglebone is illsuited for this. Not enough RAM, not enough CPU power May 18 10:43:05 Anu: kvm is not supported on the beaglebone. using qemu-system would work, but it would be sloooooooow May 18 10:43:19 exactly that May 18 10:43:38 use a faster board with more ram and hardware virtualization support May 18 10:43:50 drone|: I'm pretty sure it ought to work May 18 10:44:16 drone|: do be sure to use the right silicon revision (1.x vs 2.0) May 18 10:44:35 zmatt,tbr - does any specific model of beaglebone/board suffice my requiment ? If yes, please mention, if No, could you please suggest alternatives ? May 18 10:45:20 your expectations and use case are a bit vague. It's hard to suggest anything concrete. May 18 10:47:16 the beagleboard x15 in theory supports kvm, though I don't know if anyone has tested that yet. as for whether it has enough performance and ram, well that's for you to decide May 18 10:48:31 Thanks tbr,zmatt for your help May 18 10:49:42 drone|: I haven't tried jtag on my x15, but I probably will sometime soon May 18 10:49:58 zmatt, ok I will try again May 18 10:50:19 what does "doesn't work" mean anyway? May 18 10:50:30 my jtag is supported for shure by ccs as it works with other ti devices May 18 10:50:43 at which point are you getting an error, and which error? (although ccs error reporting tends to be quite useless) May 18 10:50:49 zmatt, it says could not stop clock or something May 18 10:50:54 it connects correctly May 18 10:51:41 ... but? May 18 10:51:45 so connection seems to work but after connection it fails May 18 10:51:52 just randomly? May 18 10:51:55 says it cannot stop hardware clock May 18 10:52:06 or are you running some GEL script? May 18 10:52:38 Nope just normal preset with supported jtag May 18 10:53:03 I will test again and check exact output May 18 10:53:14 what do you mean by that? if you're saying it connects fine, what step after that is failing? May 18 10:53:30 you really need to be more specific to have any hope for anyone to debug your issue May 18 10:57:37 Okay, is it possible to install apps on beagleboard ? for eg , music , maps etc ? May 18 16:20:13 Hello, does anyone know where I might find official 3d models for the beaglebone black? (step files / etc) May 18 19:22:01 Hi! How do I remove temporary files or cache files in BBB rev C ? May 18 19:22:19 of what? May 18 19:22:39 Beagle Bone Black Rev C May 18 19:22:56 what temporary/cache files are you referring to? May 18 19:23:18 different software caches stuff in different places May 18 19:24:37 when I use the command "sudo apt-get clean" it is not able to free up space. Getting the msg - unable to write to /var/lib/sudo/ts/debian: No space left on device May 18 19:25:41 it wouldn't do anything anyway, the beaglebone is configured to perform an apt-get clean automatically after you use apt May 18 19:26:02 you'll need to find unnecessary stuff that's taking up space and manually remove it May 18 19:26:23 oh, you can't even sudo anymore May 18 19:26:29 that's a problem May 18 19:26:36 I have deleted all user files and programs May 18 19:26:48 that's actually really weird... you even ran out of space for root? May 18 19:27:24 apparently yes May 18 19:27:37 normally you'd start getting "No space left on device" errors as a normal user way before root starts getting it (the filesystem reserves some space to be used by root only) May 18 19:29:20 assuming you've already tried to reboot (probably won't help, but it might), you may need to recover by booting from an sd card and then fix the contents of the eMMC from there May 18 19:29:31 (or you can recover via the serial console, whichever you prefer) May 18 19:29:51 /msg NickServ identify abig9windortwo May 18 19:30:01 rar_rar: epic fail May 18 19:30:04 oops May 18 19:30:10 time to change that May 18 19:30:17 rar_rar: and consider using https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl May 18 19:31:24 @zmatt: Which method is simpler ? Could you send a link/instruction for the same? May 18 19:31:34 stan: sd card is simpler May 18 19:32:21 download some bootable image (console image suffices, https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Stretch_Snapshot_console ) and flash it to a microsd card May 18 19:33:42 zmatt: do you have a table of x11 ball numbers to pins? My hw guy moved my interface from PRUSS1_PRU0 to PRUSS2_PRU1 May 18 19:34:04 stash: x11 ? x15 ? May 18 19:34:19 zmatt: x15. sorry. May 18 19:34:38 muscle memory May 18 19:35:00 stash: https://goo.gl/jiazTL May 18 19:38:18 zmatt: perfect. thanks. May 18 19:39:10 stash: I also have a version of my show-pins script based on that spreadsheet May 18 19:48:42 zmatt: Thanks. Using SASL now and auto-authenticating. May 18 19:58:58 There are daemon.log and syslog files of 1GB each May 18 19:59:03 ouch May 18 19:59:11 in var/log folder May 18 19:59:18 did you disable logrotate, but left rsyslog enabled? May 18 19:59:37 when i try to delete it, It is giving permission denied May 18 19:59:48 as root? May 18 19:59:53 ya May 18 19:59:57 as root May 18 20:00:06 that makes no sense May 18 20:00:09 how to disable logrotate May 18 20:00:21 you mean how to disable rsyslog? May 18 20:00:31 you apparently disabled logrotate, otherwise this couldn't have happened May 18 20:00:48 (logrotate is responsible for rotating logfiles to prevent them from getting too big) May 18 20:01:10 ya it makes no sense and when i Rclick -> properties it does not show write access to others and group May 18 20:01:25 to the log folder May 18 20:01:32 or any other file in it May 18 20:01:34 wait what? you're doing this with a gui? May 18 20:01:37 as root? May 18 20:01:41 yup May 18 20:01:48 winSCP May 18 20:01:58 m using this sftware winSCP May 18 20:02:00 please just ssh to the beagle May 18 20:02:04 software* May 18 20:02:32 aah in that case when i do cd/var then it says derictory does not exist May 18 20:02:43 what on earth are you doing May 18 20:02:48 :D May 18 20:03:04 ohhh, you didn't boot from sd yet May 18 20:03:17 otherwise /var wouldn't be the place to look anyway May 18 20:03:28 noo i dont have a SD card with me... May 18 20:03:45 you're most likely now just getting all sorts of random failures because you're totally out of disk space May 18 20:03:55 ya ya exactly May 18 20:03:56 which also means you should just power off the system May 18 20:04:07 everything you do has a real risk of causing worse problems May 18 20:04:43 ok of u say so....then i will reset the BBB and power it off and power it ON again May 18 20:04:52 if* May 18 20:05:02 I mean power it on once you have an sd card to boot from May 18 20:16:32 hey I managed to clear the log files of total 2GB but still dev/mmcblklpl is full May 18 20:16:48 and now m in cd /dev May 18 20:16:52 i hit ls May 18 20:16:59 kill rsyslog May 18 20:17:05 it probably still has the logfiles open May 18 20:17:16 /dev is a tmpfs, nothing there takes up disk space May 18 20:17:33 how to kill rsyslog? May 18 20:17:59 systemctl stop rsyslog May 18 20:18:03 (as root) May 18 20:18:20 ok i will try May 18 20:18:22 thanks man May 18 20:18:30 (or reboot) May 18 20:19:13 or maybe it's systemctl stop rsyslogd May 18 20:19:16 not sure May 18 20:20:36 once you have free disk space again, my suggestion would be to do apt-get purge rsyslog May 18 20:23:06 and maybe check why logrotate wasn't working: is logrotate installed? is cron installed? does /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exist? May 18 20:23:23 is cron running? (systemctl status cron) May 18 20:24:21 mm i will check...! untill now i have stopped that rsyslogd May 18 20:24:43 'stop' doesn't prevent it from starting again after reboot May 18 20:24:58 use systemctl disable for that May 18 20:34:24 Hy thanks a lot man...that "apt-get purge rsyslog" command did the job May 18 20:34:40 it removed the syslog packeg May 18 20:34:53 and now i have 1.5GB of free space May 18 20:35:59 good. it's a pointless service in the first place since system logs are already maintained by systemd-journald (but it automatically removes older log data to ensure not too much disk space is being used) May 18 20:35:59 I'm trying to boot up my new pocketbeagle, the LEDs are flashing as described, but it's not popping up as a USB drive, anyone know the solution/what I'm doing wrong? May 18 21:22:17 Hi all - my BB is connecting to internet generally but not to downloads.ti.com. Why would this be the case? May 18 21:22:31 I can connect to downloads.ti.com on my main computer, and my BB can connect to many other websites May 18 21:22:52 have a specific url as example? May 18 21:23:08 http://downloads.ti.com/codegen/esd/cgt_public_sw/PRU/2.1.5/ti_cgt_pru_2.1.5_armlinuxa8hf_busybox_installer.sh May 18 21:23:32 Also, my BB can ping and wget www.ti.com May 18 21:24:47 so during an installation, I get this: Resolving downloads.ti.com (downloads.ti.com)... 23.196.100.87 Connecting to downloads.ti.com (downloads.ti.com)|23.196.100.87|:80... May 18 21:24:56 it basically hangs there May 18 21:25:23 that's odd May 18 21:25:44 so it can't even connect... May 18 21:25:57 that's really weird May 18 21:26:05 yeah May 18 21:26:18 It doesn't seem to be a DNS issue because it is resolving the name into an IP May 18 21:26:33 nor a problem in the http request, since it never gets to send one May 18 21:26:36 and it isn't an issue with my overall network because my desktop can download that file May 18 21:27:02 it isn't an issue with my BB's connection to the network because it can access other sites May 18 21:29:28 I try wget on that file directly, it finishes with 'failed: Connection timed out.' May 18 21:29:45 note btw that there's a debian package for the pru cgt May 18 21:29:57 hmm? May 18 21:30:03 although that doesn't change the fact that this is a pretty weird issue May 18 21:30:38 apt-get install ti-pru-cgt-installer May 18 21:31:15 interesting... I try that installer and it says mine is already the latest version May 18 21:31:27 then you already have clpru installed May 18 21:31:47 yeah, but when I run `sudo apt-get install linux-image-4.14.32-ti-r42`, it starts calling the ti.com URL May 18 21:31:57 ??? May 18 21:32:11 what? May 18 21:32:19 I'm currently running an older Debian May 18 21:32:37 I'm trying to install that specific newer version May 18 21:32:51 kernel you mean, the debian version is unrelated May 18 21:32:58 sorry, yes May 18 21:33:13 but what does this have to do with ti-pru-cgt ? May 18 21:33:33 i'll put the full output in pastebin May 18 21:33:36 gimme a sec May 18 21:35:10 https://pastebin.com/BKB6v9Td May 18 21:36:44 I just did another check and it seems that the installation does need it: https://pastebin.com/r8WAF7JK May 18 21:37:02 and it's been stuck there for a few minutes May 18 21:37:30 ahh, a previous install of that package failed May 18 21:37:39 do you care about it at all? May 18 21:37:51 i do need this updated kernel, yes May 18 21:37:56 no, ti-pru-cgt May 18 21:37:59 oh May 18 21:38:04 I'm guessing not May 18 21:38:05 i don't even know what it does May 18 21:38:14 it's TI's C compiler for PRU May 18 21:38:23 i don't think i need that May 18 21:38:40 if you needed it, you would know you need it May 18 21:39:01 okay, now removing is probably a bit tricky since it's in a half-installed state May 18 21:39:50 i'm okay with reflashing to Debian as before, but it'll probably recreate this issue when I try to install the new kernel May 18 21:40:06 you can try sudo dpkg --purge ti-pru-cgt-installer May 18 21:40:14 it might need some force-flags though May 18 21:41:06 i have to reboot - will get back to you in a few mins May 18 21:42:11 --force-remove-reinstreq might be needed May 18 21:42:27 seems to have worked May 18 21:42:43 to be honest, i think it in a 'partially installed' state but i don't think it ever downloaded the file May 18 21:42:48 so purge was easy May 18 21:43:06 should I try the kernel install again as before, or do I need to things differently this time? May 18 21:43:30 just to confirm everything is okay try sudo apt-get purge ti-pru-cgt-installer May 18 21:44:07 but yeah it should be okay to install the kernel now May 18 21:44:12 how old is your debian though? May 18 21:44:24 are you using jessie or stretch? May 18 21:44:31 Stretch I believe May 18 21:44:40 okay, good :) May 18 21:49:04 this BB is so weird May 18 21:49:17 installation worked. i rebooted. now it doesn't connect to internet at all again. May 18 21:50:12 no lan access either or just no internet? May 18 21:50:23 no internet May 18 21:50:29 what does 'ip route' say ? May 18 21:50:30 i went into resolv.conf and added 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 May 18 21:50:44 manually editing resolv.conf should not be necessary under normal circumstancs May 18 21:50:58 i also have a static ip defined in /etc/network/interfaces and defined address/netmask/gateway/dns-nameservers May 18 21:51:03 ohh May 18 21:51:58 so you're using ifupdown instead of connman? or is connman also used and do you now have two network managers fighting over control ? May 18 21:52:16 i haven't heard of ifupdown - i have seen references to connman May 18 21:52:26 well /etc/network/interfaces is the config file of ifupdown May 18 21:52:37 systemctl shows networking.service is failed, connman.service is up May 18 21:53:25 yeah networking.service is ifupdown (not sure why it's not called ifupdown.service) May 18 21:53:45 the description for it is 'Raise network interfaces' May 18 21:54:03 yeah yeah it's the default network manager of debian, and it's very proud of it May 18 21:54:11 it also kinda sucks May 18 21:54:23 haha May 18 21:54:41 I personally use neither, I use systemd-networkd instead May 18 21:55:19 okay, which is the easiest from here? May 18 21:55:58 why did you mess with /etc/network/interfaces in the first place? May 18 21:56:03 ethernet should work out of the box normally May 18 21:56:10 because it wasn't working :) May 18 21:56:21 I tried `systemctl enable networking.service` just now and it says Failed to reload daemon: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files May 18 21:56:28 that means "you forgot sudo" May 18 21:56:35 and it's enabled May 18 21:56:39 otherwise it wouldn't try to start it and fail May 18 21:56:53 so what you have right now is known as "a mess" May 18 21:56:53 oh i see May 18 21:57:01 i'm going to reflash then May 18 21:57:07 it's not that big of a mess May 18 21:57:14 lol ok May 18 21:57:28 where to start? May 18 21:58:11 the question is why "it wasn't working" in the first place, prompting you to mess with /etc/network/interfaces (probably because you read that somewhere), which was the wrong thing to do since connman is the default network manager on beaglebones May 18 21:58:27 I know basically nothing about connman though May 18 21:58:42 when i reflashed, BB was able to ping my desktop May 18 21:58:48 but it wasn't able to ping or source any outside websites May 18 22:00:01 essentially nothing was different compared to now - i did make some changes (which i can reverse easily) to network/interfaces May 18 22:00:04 that's it May 18 22:00:38 yeah, so in general you should never use multiple network managers on one system May 18 22:01:01 i haven't added anything - it's how it was when reflashed May 18 22:01:05 which means that you shouldn't use /etc/network/interfaces unless you get rid of connman May 18 22:01:14 yeah for some reason ifupdown is still enabled by default, I don't know why May 18 22:01:34 but it doesn't get in the way when nothing is configured in /etc/network/interfaces May 18 22:01:34 this actually makes sense - when i added a static IP, i could still access it under the original random IP May 18 22:02:43 so, your main choice right now is which network manager you want to use, and then figure out why it's not working (assuming it isn't) and how to fix it May 18 22:03:09 however I can't really help you with connman, and I don't recommend using ifupdown May 18 22:03:29 help me with whatever you know :) i'm indifferent, i just want internet to work! May 18 22:03:34 I'm willing to help you switch to systemd-networkd though May 18 22:03:40 that sounds great May 18 22:03:59 and if something goes wrong and network access breaks entirely, well you seemed willing to reflash anyway ;) May 18 22:04:18 i am - i haven't made any real changes on this one yet - i've been trying to fix internet for two days May 18 22:04:23 (almost) May 18 22:04:46 so you flashed it with a recent image? May 18 22:05:24 if it's running old crap (cat /etc/dogtag to check) then it's worth first reflashing anyway May 18 22:05:28 yes. cat /etc/issue gives Debian GNU/Linux 9 \n \l BeagleBoard.org Debian Image 2018-03-05 May 18 22:05:34 okay good May 18 22:05:47 uname -a: Linux beaglebone 4.14.32-ti-r42 #1 SMP Thu Apr 5 23:13:09 UTC 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux May 18 22:06:26 okay, hold on May 18 22:08:16 do you also care about usb networking or just ethernet? May 18 22:08:31 just ethernet is fine May 18 22:08:44 if USB is easy, sure May 18 22:10:59 https://pastebin.com/CvZyLp3s (those IPv6 settings are optional, I'm just opinionated about them :P ) May 18 22:11:50 OK that's done May 18 22:12:04 should i have the name of the file at the top? i didn't include that May 18 22:12:19 otherwise, it's done May 18 22:12:21 no I just put that comment there to indicate the filename May 18 22:12:26 doesn't matter whether it's there of course May 18 22:12:44 so... reboot? May 18 22:12:46 nono May 18 22:13:06 just have patience while I'm checking the ingredients :) May 18 22:13:23 ahh :) no problem, and thank you May 18 22:13:36 right now it wouldn't do anything yet, but at some point it'll become important to *not* reboot until I say so May 18 22:13:52 i won't do anything May 18 22:14:41 can you pastebin the output of 'ip addr' ? May 18 22:14:58 just so I know how it configures the usb interfaces by default May 18 22:15:12 https://pastebin.com/JyerfQtQ May 18 22:17:51 https://pastebin.com/ZGFyugsr May 18 22:18:11 and usb1 same thing but with Address=192.168.6.2/30 instead May 18 22:18:51 done May 18 22:18:53 ok May 18 22:18:57 one sec on usb1 May 18 22:19:21 and Name=usb1 obviously May 18 22:19:45 the filename is ignored, in case you're wondering. only the .network suffix matters May 18 22:20:01 done May 18 22:20:04 the [Match] section determines which interface(s) ths config applies to May 18 22:20:59 huh i see May 18 22:21:06 all of that is done now May 18 22:21:46 okay, I'm quickly checking whether the monstrous 'generic-board-startup' service depends on connman in any way May 18 22:22:54 oh, ew May 18 22:22:58 does /etc/dnsmasq.d exist? May 18 22:23:12 yes May 18 22:23:31 hmm May 18 22:25:19 okay I guess we can keep that for now... in that case just remove or comment out the "DNSServer=on" line and subsequent lines in usb*.network May 18 22:25:30 *DHCPServer May 18 22:25:36 since dnsmasq is already the dhcp server May 18 22:26:22 interesting May 18 22:26:24 okay, that's done May 18 22:30:48 https://pastebin.com/darNkqY3 May 18 22:31:16 I'm trying to think very hard whether I'm overlooking any step... but I think this should be it May 18 22:31:53 rebooting now May 18 22:33:23 after examining that hideous boot script rcn uses on his debian images I always feel the urge to wash my brain May 18 22:33:41 lol May 18 22:33:54 ok i just rebooted and SSH'ed in May 18 22:34:11 when I run host google.com, I get something new 'Host google.com not found: 5(REFUSED)' May 18 22:34:27 that's odd, check systemctl status systemd-resolved May 18 22:35:12 looks okay to me May 18 22:35:14 active, running May 18 22:35:22 status 'Processing requests...' May 18 22:35:26 Tasks: 1 May 18 22:35:34 systemd-resolve google.com May 18 22:36:27 it gives me IP addresses May 18 22:37:31 is /etc/resolv.conf still a symlink to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf ? does its contents look okay? (it should have a bunch of comments, followed by 'nameserver 127.0.0.53' May 18 22:37:35 ) May 18 22:39:14 ls resolv.conf comes up red text on black May 18 22:39:20 huh May 18 22:39:33 lol how do i check if it's a symlink May 18 22:39:41 red text means broken symlink May 18 22:39:48 and ls -ld /etc/resolv.conf May 18 22:39:55 it's pointing to /run/connman/resolv.conf May 18 22:40:02 argh, who did that May 18 22:40:24 and removing it and making the symlink again as per my instructions May 18 22:40:35 also, sudo apt-get purge connman May 18 22:41:52 done May 18 22:42:27 oh you should also systemctl enable systemd-networkd-wait-online.service it's not hugely important, but it makes sure that services are able to wait until network is up (by pulling in network-online.target) May 18 22:42:38 anyway, does dns work with the fixed symlink? May 18 22:43:45 you can also apt-get purge ifupdown May 18 22:43:57 wait a sec - my BB is suddenly responding very slowly since the reboot May 18 22:44:04 huh? May 18 22:44:08 what's it doing? May 18 22:44:16 I don't know - it's just taking very long to register my keystrokes over SSH May 18 22:44:23 then it catches up May 18 22:44:31 does the cpu led indicate heavy activity? May 18 22:44:53 never mind, I think on a default install there's always shit going on May 18 22:45:13 yeah it's weird, it's gotten very slow May 18 22:45:22 try journalctl -f to check if something's going on May 18 22:45:22 i have to wait 10-20 seconds for a statement to finish and register May 18 22:45:37 give me 10-20s May 18 22:46:18 lots of DHCPREQUEST(usb1), DHCPACK (usb1), etc. May 18 22:46:28 o.O May 18 22:46:31 i mean, not massive numbers - one entry every few seconds maybe May 18 22:46:38 okay so nothing visible there May 18 22:47:22 okay so... May 18 22:47:25 check top -i ? May 18 22:47:32 ls -al /etc shows that resolv.conf isn't there any more May 18 22:47:36 wtf May 18 22:47:57 ohh, you mean just your 'sudo' statements are very slow? May 18 22:48:06 no, it was my typing in general May 18 22:48:09 oh May 18 22:48:13 then check top -i May 18 22:48:21 like i'd type 'etc' and it'd hang on 'et' for 15s May 18 22:48:37 something is clearly still going on May 18 22:48:43 i don't know, it seems OK-ish right now May 18 22:48:52 or check systemctl --failed May 18 22:49:09 well something also removed /etc/resolv.conf again right? May 18 22:49:10 uh... how do i exit top? May 18 22:49:12 q May 18 22:50:03 nothing under systemctl --failed May 18 22:50:29 it's still behaving this way, but i can't get into top -i while it's doing that May 18 22:50:48 we could try to just continue with the original problem - this issue just popped up in the last 5 minutes so it may go away again May 18 22:51:26 I remember seeing this, and iirc it was some stupid service doing something awful, but I can't remember what May 18 22:51:49 can you pastebin the output of: systemctl --no-pager May 18 22:51:51 haha you seem to have an ambivalent opinion of BB - what do you like? May 18 22:52:01 I like the beaglebone very much May 18 22:52:17 I just disagree with some of the default config on its debian :P May 18 22:52:46 https://pastebin.com/9QaW3p63 May 18 22:52:47 and I wish these steps would have Just Worked (tm) May 18 22:52:58 is there a better image you would recommend, or a better place to start? May 18 22:53:04 i'd very much like a clean, simple version May 18 22:53:07 when I'm at a beaglebone I can always find what I need to do, but it's harder to do it remotely May 18 22:54:04 I start with the console image, remove crap, switch to systemd-networkd, upgrade to debian buster, and some misc other stuff May 18 22:54:41 holy fuck there's a lot going on on the iot image May 18 22:54:55 well, not that much I guess, but May 18 22:56:56 if you don't really want stuff like cloud9, bonescript, node-red and such then you may want to reflash to the console image May 18 22:57:32 what is a/the console image? May 18 22:58:15 it's one of three main variants of debian image available for the beaglebone (console, iot, lxqt), specifically the smallest/lightest May 18 22:58:48 it's basic debian system, for users who prefer to just install the stuff they want themselves May 18 22:58:54 i don't see any console images in https://beagleboard.org/latest-images May 18 22:59:22 I think that page mentions the console images are found on the wiki: https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Stretch_Snapshot_console May 18 22:59:37 ahh! i see May 18 22:59:43 okay sorry for the tangent May 18 22:59:44 I guess they don't want completely noobs to install one by accident :P May 18 22:59:54 haha May 18 22:59:57 yeah, i guess that makes sense May 18 23:00:46 I've considered making my own image for people who prefer a clean and fast-booting system May 18 23:01:08 that sounds great - sign me up May 18 23:03:24 ok - I'm still SSH'ed in and I still have the internet issue May 18 23:03:59 I'm not convinced it's a networking issue, unless something is still trying to fight May 18 23:04:09 what load average does 'uptime' list? May 18 23:04:20 and maybe pastebin a process list? (ps f -fe) May 18 23:04:24 23:04:18 up 32 min, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.10, 0.11 May 18 23:04:27 hmm May 18 23:04:57 https://pastebin.com/kCJR6Mvr May 18 23:07:28 I don't see anything odd really May 18 23:07:34 ip addr ; ip route May 18 23:07:45 are you also connected via usb? May 18 23:08:06 i am connected via ethernet and usb May 18 23:08:17 do you get the same problem when ssh'ing in via usb ? May 18 23:08:36 ip addr/route: https://pastebin.com/RY2LPkMw May 18 23:08:46 I haven't tried via USB May 18 23:09:42 still not seeing any problems so far :-/ May 18 23:10:31 I just SSH'ed in via USB. host google.com and ping www.google.com fails May 18 23:11:31 did you create the symlink from /etc/resolv.conf to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf ? May 18 23:11:48 since last you reported it was still missing May 18 23:11:54 or missing again May 18 23:11:57 not sure May 18 23:12:38 i just did that bit again (the ln -s) May 18 23:12:50 at least immediately, the same Google commands fail May 18 23:12:55 huh May 18 23:13:14 i ran the command again to create the symlink May 18 23:13:16 grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf May 18 23:13:34 did you remove the old file first? May 18 23:13:35 No such file or directory May 18 23:13:36 if any May 18 23:13:45 There was nothing in /etc/resolv.conf May 18 23:13:52 wait, does /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf not exist for you? May 18 23:14:08 it doesn't May 18 23:14:24 only /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf May 18 23:14:38 oh lol I'm being an idiot, apparently that was introduced in a more recent systemd-resolved than the one in stretch May 18 23:14:52 in that case symlink to /lib/systemd/resolv.conf instead May 18 23:15:25 wait, not /lib/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf? May 18 23:15:30 uhh May 18 23:15:47 nope it's definitely /lib/systemd/resolv.conf May 18 23:15:56 ok i'll try that May 18 23:15:56 there's no /lib/systemd/resolve directory May 18 23:16:13 oh sorry, i was in the /run/systemd/resolve directory May 18 23:16:43 no you shouldn't symlink to that May 18 23:16:48 so you want me to do sudo ln -s /lib/systemd/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf? May 18 23:16:55 yes May 18 23:17:04 ln: failed to create symbolic link '/etc/resolv.conf': File exists May 18 23:17:08 after removing it May 18 23:17:20 there's also some option you can pass to ln, but I'm too lazy to check May 18 23:17:32 to be clear, remove /etc/resolv.conf, yes? May 18 23:17:35 yes May 18 23:17:50 ok! all done May 18 23:18:09 Google commands work... May 18 23:18:42 I'm trying to wget that original URL May 18 23:18:49 ah right, ln -sfT is the appropriate set of options to remove any existing file at the target May 18 23:19:06 oh right that's how it all began. you never needed that original url though May 18 23:19:33 but it would be interesting to know if it's magically fixed now May 18 23:19:35 true, but the issue still exists, it seems May 18 23:19:43 i tried wget, but it still hangs May 18 23:19:56 I'm inclined to say it's somehow a problem with your network May 18 23:20:04 My desktop can get it May 18 23:20:10 even so May 18 23:20:20 what do you get if you do: getent hosts downloads.ti.com May 18 23:20:38 device produces: 23.196.100.87 e2888.ksd.akamaiedge.net downloads.ti.com china.downloads.ti.com.edgekey.net china.downloads.ti.com.edgekey.net.globalredir.akadns.net May 18 23:24:12 I don't know what to say... the beaglebone obviously has working internet, so I don't see how it can be responsible for being unable to connect to that server May 18 23:24:32 try passing the -4 option to wget May 18 23:25:23 no change, still hangs at 'Connecting' May 18 23:26:06 how about this - let me try and run the steps i was planning to May 18 23:26:17 it seems downloads.ti.com is ipv4 only anyway... hmm. :-/ I figured since I saw you had a global ipv6 address, maybe it was trying to use ipv6 but this was broken somehow May 18 23:26:38 yeah, as mysterious as this problem is... you don't actually need this installer May 18 23:27:03 OK - I'll drop off for a bit and see if I can make headway May 18 23:27:09 btw, I recommend setting these options to 'no' in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf May 18 23:27:16 MulticastDNS, DNSSEC, Cache May 18 23:27:20 oh ok May 18 23:27:26 the first one conflicts with avahi May 18 23:27:48 DNSSEC is all sorts of stupid May 18 23:28:17 haha May 18 23:28:19 i just did that May 18 23:28:24 i had to add the MulticastDNS line May 18 23:28:27 Cache can be annoying and is usually not very beneficial (but should be enabled if you use DNSSEC) May 18 23:28:50 okay, maybe your networkd is too old for multicastdns ? in which case you'll have that line for when you upgrade May 18 23:29:21 BTW as an aside, do you know about security on Beaglebones? May 18 23:29:39 well, as long as you're running cloud9 and bonescript, you don't have any ;) May 18 23:29:58 lol - i don't need either of those so they'll be disabled May 18 23:30:16 removed, actually May 18 23:30:21 I still recommend reflashing to console image... it's easier than getting rid of all the crap I think May 18 23:30:54 i think i'll try that actually May 18 23:31:09 alright zmatt, thank you so much for your help May 18 23:31:18 this is what boot time *can* look like on a beaglebone: https://liktaanjeneus.nl/boot.svg :) May 18 23:31:28 omg May 18 23:31:28 (of course this isn't counting the time spent in u-boot) May 18 23:31:43 that's... ridiculously better that what i have May 18 23:31:57 you can make such a plot with: systemd-analyze plot >boot.svg May 18 23:32:25 ok! lots to do. i'll flash the console image and see if i can get my stuff running on it May 18 23:32:37 then hopefully everything will be okay in the world May 19 00:33:50 zmatt: I just flashed the BB with the console image, and straight out of the box, internet isn't working May 19 00:34:00 is there something i have to do with the console image to get it working? May 19 00:34:03 what does 'ip route' show? May 19 00:34:08 nope, it should work May 19 00:34:31 https://pastebin.com/sxwgz1TH May 19 00:35:14 that looks okay. what's in /etc/resolv.conf ? May 19 00:35:45 nameservers: 68.105.28.11, 68.105.29.11, 68.105.28.12 May 19 00:36:52 oh I've talked to you before today haven't I? (this problem description and this set of nameservers suddenly feels very familiar) May 19 00:37:00 yes! that was me May 19 00:37:04 we chatted an hour ago May 19 00:37:10 before then I mean May 19 00:37:23 oh... yes, i think so, but quite a while back May 19 00:37:41 my memory is pretty bad, but I do remember who I talked to an hour ago :P May 19 00:37:46 haha May 19 00:37:55 i figured you might be in great demand? lol May 19 00:38:21 there's been no activity whatsoever here May 19 00:38:43 ahh ok May 19 00:38:51 anyway, I seem to recall my conclusion then was that nothing seemed wrong on the beaglebone and I declared it a mystery May 19 00:38:59 yes, it was a declared mystery May 19 00:39:04 so now we have a pure console iamge May 19 00:39:06 *image May 19 00:39:15 but the issue now is no internet connection at all May 19 00:39:23 whereas we were able to get it to almost perfect connection on the previous image May 19 00:39:27 together with the weird as fuck issue you had with downloads.ti.com, it still seems like a weirdass network problem May 19 00:39:37 (i.e. pinging Google, CNN, etc., but not downloads.ti.com) May 19 00:40:02 does name resolution work? May 19 00:40:24 if you mean host google.com, it says 'command not found' May 19 00:40:34 getent hosts google.com May 19 00:40:51 it's hanging May 19 00:40:57 (apparently 'host' isn't installed by default on the console image) May 19 00:41:18 can you ping the router? ping -n 192.168.0.1 May 19 00:41:52 no, but i can ping my desktop May 19 00:42:25 okay it really seems to me like your router is just acting weird as fuck May 19 00:42:36 maybe i should call Cox and ask them to reset my network settings May 19 00:43:25 ok - i'll go to them and come back if anything interesting happens May 19 00:43:26 or share internet from your pc to the beaglebone May 19 00:43:37 yeah.. i'd rather just fix this at root May 19 00:43:41 it's wasting so much time May 19 00:44:33 sure, but it might be a useful sanity check... although there isn't really any need for one: internet should just work by default, and if it was able to get a dhcp lease from your router but subsequently can't ping it, stuff is weird as fuck May 19 00:44:55 yeah May 19 00:44:59 everything else in my house works ok May 19 00:51:55 so my desktop can ping my router May 19 00:52:02 but BB can't May 19 00:53:25 Did someone say, "Ducks?" May 19 01:38:52 well Cox was incredibly unhelpful May 19 01:39:05 zmatt No progress from Cox May 19 01:40:13 i'm going to take my BB to a completely different network over the weekend and see if it does any better May 19 01:42:14 like I said, try internet sharing from your pc May 19 01:42:23 which is effectively like a completely different network May 19 01:42:35 i'll look that up - not sure how to do that on mac May 19 01:42:54 sharing -> internet sharing May 19 01:43:04 it's pretty easy May 19 02:04:04 no luck there either, weirdly - but i'm not going to bother you again with this today. it's been a long day May 19 02:04:20 i'm going to take it to another network and see if it works there May 19 02:04:27 the rational explanation is that your beaglebone is cursed May 19 02:04:31 otherwise i'll work on some other stuff and come back in a day or two May 19 02:04:33 lol May 19 02:04:46 well, i have another new one sitting here so i might try that too and see if it has issues May 19 02:05:01 oh.. actually, it's the wireless version May 19 02:05:02 damn May 19 02:05:17 anyway, maybe i'll pick up another standard black over the weekend May 19 02:06:26 thanks for all your help May 19 02:06:38 i may try exorcism May 19 02:08:02 btw, if you think of anything, my username at gmail May 19 02:49:23 https://pastebin.com/gBkky3Ap is a pinch of software from Python on the BBB w/ a L298 dual, h-bridge motor driver. May 19 02:49:38 Do you know why my motors do not start at the same time? May 19 02:49:51 ... May 19 02:50:48 If you are messing w/ the BBB, Python, and a motor driver, please jump in. May 19 02:52:11 just for reference, my EnA motor starts and runs but then they both work in the same manner at the same time (EnA and EnB). May 19 02:52:23 ... May 19 02:53:30 I just cannot get them to start at the same time until later in the software. Once EnA gets going, the EnA and EnB motors work just fine and do as expected but EnB will not start right away. May 19 02:54:02 ... May 19 02:54:22 If this is another Python question, just forget I asked. May 19 02:54:42 dang it...brb. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 19 03:00:00 2018