**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 08 03:00:01 2018 Jul 08 03:51:20 Hello Jul 08 03:52:39 I was reading the FSF blog and they said that Jul 08 03:52:49 "However, the graphics accelerator (GPU) and the video decoding hardware for formats such as MPEG-2 are nonfunctional, because they require nonfree blobs to be installed into them. The workaround for these flaws is to do these jobs on the CPU with free software." Jul 08 03:54:17 I personally loo for open source hardware for my projects. How would I disable this feature? Jul 08 03:54:23 look* Jul 08 03:54:46 Source: https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers Jul 08 04:21:36 * zmatt sighs Jul 08 04:47:36 prehaps a RiscV board is more to your liking.... Jul 08 04:53:33 if only fsf put some board in one of the "better" categories... Jul 08 04:54:24 technically beaglebones probably belongs in a better category since almost nobody uses the sgx and its blobs aren't on the default image Jul 08 12:33:30 hi guys how could I get config-pin and whatever supported items necessary onto another distro like archlinux-arm Jul 08 12:36:02 found the overlays on github will clone and see where that gets me Jul 08 15:07:03 e Jul 08 16:05:20 anyone running a pocket begal with octascrolla for matrix panels Jul 08 19:39:52 Anybody think could help me about my Free Software issue? Jul 08 19:53:51 NicWow: you'll need to be a lot more specific :) Jul 08 19:54:20 I was reading the FSF blog and they said that Jul 08 19:54:20 "However, the graphics accelerator (GPU) and the video decoding hardware for formats such as MPEG-2 are nonfunctional, because they require nonfree blobs to be installed into them. The workaround for these flaws is to do these jobs on the CPU with free software." Jul 08 19:54:20 I personally loo for open source hardware for my projects. How would I disable this feature? Jul 08 19:54:29 look* Jul 08 19:54:40 Source: https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers Jul 08 19:55:00 just don't install the binary blobs Jul 08 19:55:16 So this isn't installed by default? Jul 08 19:55:39 i don't think so Jul 08 19:56:42 As per say I could install Trisquel and no proprietary code would ever execute? Jul 08 19:57:09 No matter what I did as long as I explicitly don't download anything it is FOSS? Jul 08 19:57:53 What about if I installed lets say Libre Office? Jul 08 20:01:03 libreoffice is more end-user software, not system software, so really shouldn't be messing with your operating system Jul 08 20:01:35 no ideal if trisquel supports arm hardware. Jul 08 20:05:42 I know PArabola does Jul 08 20:05:42 https://www.parabola.nu/ Jul 08 20:05:53 WOuld that work Jul 08 20:06:02 (Forgot Beagle was ARM sorry) Jul 08 20:07:44 try and find out Jul 08 20:08:32 I joined Reddit to ask this Question but the mods deleted me. Jul 08 20:08:46 That is why I am here. Jul 08 20:08:48 someone was using the armhf port of guixsd on a beaglebone black... but package installations and updates would be quite slow Jul 08 20:09:00 but it'll run Jul 08 20:09:32 Would you mind sending me the source to that if you still have it and it was online? Jul 08 20:12:20 i don't seriously recommend guixsd, based on the nature of your questions ... but https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ Jul 08 20:27:33 NicWow: are you talking about the beaglebone or one of the beagleboards? Jul 08 20:30:15 I don't know what's on images for the old beagleboards, but on the beaglebone the userspace libs for the gpu are not installed by default (and in fact it can be a hassle to get them installed if you do want them) Jul 08 20:30:38 (the beaglebone has no video decoding hardware) Jul 08 20:49:02 it would still help if you could send me a link to the person ran it. That way I can look further into it. Jul 08 20:50:58 Are you aware of another os that I could run? Jul 08 20:51:35 just use the default debian image Jul 08 20:52:04 Found it: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2017/porting-guixsd-to-armv7/ Jul 08 20:52:07 anything else is likely to require a lot more effort, or at the very least will be poorly tested Jul 08 20:52:49 Debian isn't a free system distribution certified os. Jul 08 20:52:56 These are my goals. Jul 08 20:53:05 lol Jul 08 20:53:15 If they won't work with a Beagle Board they won't Jul 08 20:53:21 If they do they do Jul 08 21:00:46 if debian isn't a "free system distribution certified os" (whatever that may mean) then this certification doesn't mean anything useful Jul 08 21:02:26 ah he left, good Jul 08 21:04:03 it's not by the FSF definition, and from their viewpoint, i can see their point Jul 08 21:06:51 ah right, because "free" involved not actually having freedom Jul 08 21:07:07 such as to install whatever software you want Jul 08 21:12:30 it's a self-imposed limitation ... if you want a free-software only system, you don't install non-free software. The FSF provide guidelines for distros that abide by their interpretation of free software. Jul 08 21:13:42 weather that's somethiong you want is an excercise left for the reader. Jul 08 21:17:03 debian lets you do that. or you can *choose* to add the non-free repositories. that gives you as end-user strictly more freedom then fsf wants you to have :P Jul 08 21:17:37 zmatt: in both cases, it's opt-in. Jul 08 21:18:40 i am perfectly happy installing an ad-blocker and restricting my freedom to be bombarded by ads for things i don't want Jul 08 21:19:03 that sentence doesn't even make sense Jul 08 21:19:04 same difference with a distro that doesn't provide mechanisms to install non-free software Jul 08 21:19:48 if someone doesn't want free software, a distribution that makes it easy for them to accidentally install free software might not be what they want Jul 08 21:20:00 er, Jul 08 21:20:07 if someone doesn't want non-free software... Jul 08 21:20:15 hah. Jul 08 21:22:18 i am happy to install things that limit my ability to do things, e.g. restrict my freedom ... as long as i choose to do so. some people may want to make that choice at the operating system level. some may want to make that choice on a per-package basis, or per-repository basis, or a per-plugin basis, etc. Jul 08 21:28:00 <<<<<< first .pl file run! Jul 08 21:28:11 I am catching up w/ "plenty" of time left. Jul 08 21:28:32 ... Jul 08 21:28:40 Is bragging about perl aloud? Jul 08 21:29:14 perl has fallen out of fashion in many circles :) Jul 08 21:29:38 Oh. I am groovy enough to admit it does its job. Jul 08 21:29:50 it certainly does Jul 08 21:29:57 groovy = circa '72! Jul 08 21:30:10 I am not that old yet? Jul 08 21:30:13 Hhahahaha. Jul 08 21:30:33 ... Jul 08 21:30:34 Sorry. Jul 08 21:32:47 I thought that joke was "on time." My software in Perl was from this book. I am testing it out to learn, "Linux for Developers:..." Jul 08 21:33:03 The software asks, "How old are you?" Jul 08 21:33:52 If the age is under a specific age, it says one thing, but when the age is above a specific number, it says another thing. Jul 08 21:33:55 Right-o? Jul 08 21:36:31 You know...this perl software I am learning right now for the BBB and computing is just like what I made up, w/ help, for a couple of items. Jul 08 21:36:32 ... Jul 08 21:36:56 It is nice. I say yea! The computer comes back and says yea! Or the computer comes back and says NO! Jul 08 21:37:18 I'm proud of making my own PCBs, QFP footprints included. No solder mask, I know. But, I have Kapton tape :P Jul 08 21:37:32 Coffee! Jul 08 21:37:45 Do you remember little, ole me? Jul 08 21:38:53 Yes I do, don't worry Jul 08 21:39:32 Oh? Okay! Jul 08 21:39:43 I just saw your mention. Jul 08 21:40:45 I replied. This interjection sure works well. It is like making that terminal interject in Python when I forget what it is I need to be doing. Jul 08 21:41:37 "set_, please calm down! set_, stop lying to people about owning a yacht." Jul 08 21:43:29 brb and how! Jul 08 21:49:33 here and there Jul 09 00:22:13 About node.js and the book, "Programming the BeagleBone Black (Monk 2014)," heh? Jul 09 00:22:26 Updating this book is oh-so-difficult. Jul 09 00:23:51 how do I get package.json in the /home/debian directory? Jul 09 00:24:22 At first, I thought this was serialport. I have concluded that it is not. Jul 09 00:31:21 forget me. I am not to the point when I should speak yet. Jul 09 00:31:23 Yet! Jul 09 00:31:37 brb **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 09 03:00:02 2018