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Oct 12 03:00:13 <ayjay_t> yeah i mean, definitely too harsh
Oct 12 03:00:21 <ayjay_t> probably still figuring out how IRC works
Oct 12 03:00:30 <ayjay_t> i have no idea if he'll get anywhere
Oct 12 03:00:37 <ayjay_t> but still
Oct 12 13:32:37 <ayjay_t> zmatt if you had a gui that showd you the most important things about beaglebone system configuration, what would it include? image version? device tree info? maybe git repo status for RCN stuff? pinconfig
Oct 12 13:53:52 <rcn-ee[m]> @ayjay_t: https://github.com/machinekoder/BBIOConfig
Oct 12 14:56:10 <thinkfat> anyone happen to know what current the USR LEDs on the BBB draw? They're awfully bright...
Oct 12 14:56:35 * thinkfat still trying to reduce memsleep power consumption
Oct 12 14:56:37 <ayjay_t> whats is that rcn-ee[m] pin config and capes?
Oct 12 14:56:49 <ayjay_t> a local program?
Oct 12 14:57:10 <thinkfat> you mean "config-pin"?
Oct 12 14:57:15 <thinkfat> that belongs to cape-universal I think
Oct 12 14:57:52 <ayjay_t> sure, the BBIOConfig looks interesting
Oct 12 14:58:31 <ayjay_t> i wonder what else i can add to something like that
Oct 12 15:04:29 <kremlin> m
Oct 12 15:07:52 <ayjay_t> m
Oct 12 15:31:44 <sbenavides> anyone out there have any experience with the MikroBUS Cape on black wireless?
Oct 12 15:35:59 <rcn-ee[m]> @sbenavides: a few have been added: https://github.com/beagleboard/bb.org-overlays/tree/master/src/arm (BB-mBCx-*.dts) what do you need?
Oct 12 15:37:39 <sbenavides> I really need some direct assistance if anyone wants to make a lot of $$ if they can help...I have Beaglebone black wireless with the cape and an LTE click board and GPS click board that I need working...my developer is not available anymore and I am stuck
Oct 12 15:39:29 <rcn-ee[m]> sorry, i only deal with users actually looking to learn and build..
Oct 12 15:40:05 <sbenavides> I would LOVE to learn and build...
Oct 12 15:40:12 <sbenavides> been at it for 3 days
Oct 12 15:40:18 <sbenavides> just a newbie
Oct 12 15:40:21 <sbenavides> is my problem
Oct 12 15:40:39 <sbenavides> Mikro guys in Serbia are NO help
Oct 12 15:43:00 <rcn-ee[m]> there's 7 lte and around 5 gps click boards...  first step in your question, should be the exact models your using..
Oct 12 15:44:22 <sbenavides> MIKROE-2670 is the GPS
Oct 12 15:45:12 <rcn-ee[m]> 2670 is uart based..
Oct 12 15:45:27 <sbenavides> MIKROE-2535
Oct 12 15:45:31 <rcn-ee[m]> which 1,2,3.4 connector is it plugged in..
Oct 12 15:45:31 <sbenavides> is the LTE
Oct 12 15:45:54 <sbenavides> the gps is in 12
Oct 12 15:45:54 <sbenavides> 1
Oct 12 15:45:59 <sbenavides> the LTE is in 2
Oct 12 15:46:05 <rcn-ee[m]> 2535 is also uart..
Oct 12 15:46:24 <sbenavides> im not even sure if the cape mgr is working correctly/disabled HDMI which I was told/read was a rquirement
Oct 12 15:46:42 <rcn-ee[m]> 2535 usart, with rts/cts also needed..
Oct 12 15:46:43 <sbenavides> there doc is dated and I don't know 100% how to check
Oct 12 15:47:39 <rcn-ee[m]> config-pin P9.26 uart
Oct 12 15:47:46 <rcn-ee[m]> config-pin P9.24 uart
Oct 12 15:47:53 <rcn-ee[m]> will get the lte module working..
Oct 12 15:48:27 <sbenavides> P9_26 pinmux file not found! Pin has no cape: P9_26
Oct 12 15:48:33 <rcn-ee[m]> (/dev/ttyS1)
Oct 12 15:48:40 <sbenavides> that is what I get back
Oct 12 15:49:20 <rcn-ee[m]> pastebin: sudo /opt/scripts/tools/version.sh
Oct 12 15:49:29 <sbenavides> can't thank you enough for helping, but just so clear I am VERY new to Beaglebone black
Oct 12 15:51:12 <sbenavides> are asking me to paste the results?  I'm sorry for being such a newbie
Oct 12 15:51:17 <sbenavides> git:/opt/scripts/:[1aa73453b2c980b75e31e83dab7dd8b6696f10c7] eeprom:[A335BNLTBWA51650BBWG0751] model:[TI_AM335x_BeagleBone_Black_Wireless] dogtag:[BeagleBoard.org Debian Image 2018-10-07] bootloader:[microSD-(push-button)]:[/dev/mmcblk0]:[U-Boot 2018.09-00002-g0b54a51eee]:[location: dd MBR] bootloader:[eMMC-(default)]:[/dev/mmcblk1]:[U-Boot 2016.11-rc3-00002-g73df7f]:[location: dd MBR] kernel:[4.14.71-ti-r80] nodejs:[v6.14.4] uboot
Oct 12 15:51:58 <rcn-ee[m]> yeah, on pastebin..
Oct 12 15:52:01 <rcn-ee[m]> eMMC is old..
Oct 12 15:52:21 <rcn-ee[m]> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1M count=10
Oct 12 15:52:22 <rcn-ee[m]> and reboot..
Oct 12 15:53:08 <sbenavides> https://pastebin.com/wZrcJD2Q
Oct 12 15:53:28 <rcn-ee[m]> found my cape, P9.22/P9.21 is bus 1...  so use config-pin with those in uart mode..
Oct 12 15:53:43 <rcn-ee[m]> should be /dev/ttyS3
Oct 12 15:54:17 <sbenavides> rebooting
Oct 12 15:55:53 <sbenavides> ok...its back up
Oct 12 15:56:21 <sbenavides> should I try config-pin P9.26 uart
Oct 12 15:57:32 <ayjay_t> haha i mean, i could use some $$
Oct 12 15:57:47 <ayjay_t> what happened to your developer?
Oct 12 15:57:53 <sbenavides> ok...those two commands worked this time
Oct 12 15:58:14 <sbenavides> developer got ill
Oct 12 15:58:18 <sbenavides> in hospital
Oct 12 15:58:29 <rcn-ee[m]> fire up tio on /dev/ttyS1 (and set the serial baud).. you should see some noise from teh lte..
Oct 12 15:58:30 <ayjay_t> oh man i mean, you must be in some kind of rush
Oct 12 15:58:45 <ayjay_t> or your developer is out of commission for a long time
Oct 12 15:59:12 <sbenavides> we are...its a mess but trying to work through...I am on the node.js side of things, so I just take for granted things like internet connectivity all the time, etc. etc.
Oct 12 15:59:54 <ayjay_t> i c
Oct 12 16:01:21 <sbenavides> again...so sorry for being a noob..."fire up tio on /dev/ttyS1"...
Oct 12 16:02:03 <sbenavides> says connected
Oct 12 16:02:11 <sbenavides> but nothing coming back
Oct 12 16:02:39 <zmatt> omg rcn-ee[m]
Oct 12 16:02:44 <zmatt> haven't seen you on irc in ages
Oct 12 16:02:46 <rcn-ee[m]> i don't know your lte's baud rate or settings, here's tio's man: https://www.mankier.com/1/tio
Oct 12 16:02:47 <sbenavides> there are also no indicator lights except power on the LTE click board
Oct 12 16:03:30 <rcn-ee[m]> @zmatt, was stuck behind slack's irc bridge, but riot.im's actually works..
Oct 12 16:04:11 <sbenavides> is there a command I can run to ensure that the cape mgr is actually working correctly?
Oct 12 16:04:22 <thinkfat> rcn-ee[m]: found a weird bug with memsleep when cape-universal is used
Oct 12 16:04:41 <zmatt> sbenavides: you're booting from sd card right?  assumimg you don't care about the contents of eMMC, wipe it using:  sudo blkdiscard /dev/mmcblk1
Oct 12 16:04:42 <thinkfat> rcn-ee[m]: seems to wake up but pinmux seems borked
Oct 12 16:04:46 <zmatt> sbenavides: and then reboot
Oct 12 16:05:09 <sbenavides> I am booting from sd correct
Oct 12 16:05:31 <thinkfat> rcn-ee[m]: as in: power consumption tells me the board is up and running but no heartbeat and no uart console
Oct 12 16:05:46 <rcn-ee[m]> @sbenavides, with your eMMC u-boot removed, that microSD u-boot and kernel will "work"...
Oct 12 16:06:31 <rcn-ee[m]> @thinkfat, with cape-universal "everything" is on... so it's quick and easy for quick prototyping, but for an actually end design.. it's a dog on power and bootup time..
Oct 12 16:07:05 <thinkfat> rcn-ee[m]: yeah, but it probably should not break functionality that works otherwise...
Oct 12 16:07:33 <thinkfat> rcn-ee[m]: didn't get to dig into it yet, I just disabled it and things went back to normal
Oct 12 16:07:57 <sbenavides> rebooting
Oct 12 16:07:59 <thinkfat> rcn-ee[m]: though even without cape-universal, sleep pinmux is sort of, well, strange.
Oct 12 16:08:19 <thinkfat> rcn-ee[m]: like, USR LEDS stuck on and stuff
Oct 12 16:09:11 <rcn-ee[m]> those are controlled by cpu, as just gpio.. so very strange..
Oct 12 16:11:04 <sbenavides> ok...back online
Oct 12 16:11:16 <rcn-ee[m]> ps, it should get better in ti's 4.19... as in, the "kernel capemngr" bits are thrown in /dev/zero..
Oct 12 16:11:38 <sbenavides> ifconfig
Oct 12 16:11:42 <sbenavides> ooops
Oct 12 16:11:45 <sbenavides> wrong window
Oct 12 16:12:48 <sbenavides> well...not sure where things are now
Oct 12 16:13:14 <sbenavides> any ideas on how I would find out baud rate?
Oct 12 16:13:19 <sbenavides> if that is the issue
Oct 12 16:14:46 <sbenavides> on the other click board, I do get activity like on the GPS pss/fix led
Oct 12 16:14:49 <sbenavides> light
Oct 12 16:18:09 <rcn-ee[m]> model number into google, find datasheet..
Oct 12 16:21:13 <sbenavides> 115200 is default
Oct 12 16:23:44 <sbenavides> wonder is trying the GPS board first may be easier...for a I know the SIM card may have issue as well with Verizon
Oct 12 16:27:02 <sbenavides> if ANYONE out wants to make a quick thousand bucks, all I need is this device to be online via the LTE click board and the GPS to be sending its data steam/NMEA ...would think can figure out way for remote access to this device...email me at steven@hatcreekdev.com if interested
Oct 12 16:27:44 <sbenavides> I'm that desperate
Oct 12 16:51:42 <ayjay_t> yeah i mean, one of my employees can probably do it sbenavides
Oct 12 17:07:02 <ayjay_t> i sent him an e-mail
Oct 12 17:07:05 <ayjay_t> did anyone else?
Oct 12 17:07:16 <ayjay_t> *quickly follows up* thinkfat is a dirty LIAR
Oct 12 17:11:05 <CoffeeBreakfast_> zmatt: Yesterday, maybe I was testing your memory. My project is working (the bbb-arb-wavegen) inspired by py-uio. The sample rate is 150Ksa/s (using the PRUSS to write directly to the SPI peripheral) and a ring buffer between the ARM and the PRUSS to transfer the samples.
Oct 12 17:23:10 <CoffeeBreakfast_> And prussdrv (uio) can work with another peripheral using uio
Oct 12 17:42:10 <thinkfat> ayjay_t: could you be more precise?
Oct 12 17:42:23 <ayjay_t> haha just kidding
Oct 12 17:42:30 <ayjay_t> wait did you get the joke?
Oct 12 17:42:53 <thinkfat> ayjay_t: what joke?
Oct 12 17:42:59 <ayjay_t> nvm
Oct 12 17:43:00 <thinkfat> ayjay_t: I thought you were dead serious!
Oct 12 17:43:23 <ayjay_t> :grimace:
Oct 12 17:44:43 <thinkfat> ayjay_t: I'm susceptible to many kinds of humor. I'm afraid yours doesn't seem to be of that kind...
Oct 12 18:14:01 <ayjay_t> i do not know if it's that mikroboard or what, but this thing loads literally every single kernel module it can find
Oct 12 18:14:08 <ayjay_t> are there tools to probe capes?
Oct 12 18:14:13 <ayjay_t> like, eeprom and whatnot
Oct 12 18:23:32 <ayjay_t> like what cape loads all this: http://termbin.com/i6nh
Oct 12 18:23:48 <ayjay_t> and i am really surprised to see the number of git repos making it onto these images
Oct 12 18:29:25 <zmatt> ayjay_t: most of that list are platform drivers, networking stuff, and usb gadget stuff
Oct 12 18:29:59 <zmatt> a cape doesn't "load" anything anyhow, it merely requests a specific overlay, which adds DT declarations, which might lead to kernel modules being loaded
Oct 12 18:36:34 <zmatt> ayjay_t: https://pastebin.com/raw/ThQJtZJp
Oct 12 18:41:17 <ayjay_t> my builds are pretty much empty which i'm assuming is because they're not loaded (rather than builtin)
Oct 12 18:42:03 <ayjay_t> is that yours?
Oct 12 18:42:19 <ayjay_t> can you figure out what overlay eeprom requests?
Oct 12 18:42:26 <ayjay_t> i guess maybe config-pin
Oct 12 18:42:36 <ayjay_t> oh man that burrito was delicious
Oct 12 18:43:02 <zmatt> yes you can read the eeprom of a cape to determine how it identifies itself
Oct 12 18:43:13 <zmatt> the format is documented in the bbb SRM I think
Oct 12 18:43:34 <zmatt> but it's probably not hard to find the name and version simply by looking at the hexdump
Oct 12 18:43:55 <ayjay_t> yeah i guess its probably in /dev maybe?
Oct 12 18:44:03 <ayjay_t> oh wait no config-pin
Oct 12 18:45:20 <zmatt> /sys/bus/nvmem/devices
Oct 12 18:45:27 <ayjay_t> thx zmatt
Oct 12 19:05:39 <ayjay_t> wow guys, the catalog on these mikroclicks is _crazy_
Oct 12 19:05:47 <ayjay_t> i mean, it's like they 1000 capes
Oct 12 19:19:29 <thinkfat> I don't get why everybody tries to stick a DS1307 RTC on everything.
Oct 12 19:20:08 <thinkfat> It's not like 5V I/O is still a thing with current MCUs
Oct 12 19:27:34 <ayjay_t> huh so, UART AT commands over LTE, device has onboard TLS, TCP/IP, HTTP(S)
Oct 12 19:27:57 <ayjay_t> likelihood of an opensource network interface for this hardware? pretty poor, probably
Oct 12 19:33:50 <ayjay_t> on the other hand, that seems like a really important problem
Oct 12 19:50:48 <Sean_> help with BBB wireless password
Oct 12 20:03:49 <Snert_> is there a question in there somewhere?
Oct 12 20:06:36 <ayjay_t> sounds like a demand to me
Oct 12 20:06:41 <ayjay_t> do it or else!
Oct 12 20:08:11 <Snert_> I respectfully decline the 20 Twenty Questions Routine when there is pizza waiting for me for lunch.
Oct 12 20:08:45 <thinkfat> he quit
Oct 12 20:09:57 <ayjay_t> hahhaa
Oct 12 20:10:06 <ayjay_t> is there a wireless password?
Oct 12 20:10:11 <ayjay_t> we really should stop being so mean
Oct 12 20:10:29 <ayjay_t> i mean, jkridner put up a web interface, those people have _no idea_ about etiquette here
Oct 12 20:10:45 <thinkfat> millenials, no patience, attention span of hoverfly...
Oct 12 20:11:00 <ayjay_t> bout to go get me some avocado TOAST mate
Oct 12 20:11:38 <thinkfat> they usually have no idea whatsoever
Oct 12 20:12:14 <Snert_> lol...don't forget the Half Caf FUll Mocha Lite with Swirls & Foam.
Oct 12 20:14:25 <ayjay_t> rcn-ee[m]: i'm gonna try to find a PPP over AT commands over UART driver
Oct 12 20:14:47 <ayjay_t> wait now that i'm thinking about that
Oct 12 20:15:00 <ayjay_t> nope too much work
Oct 12 20:15:26 <ayjay_t> although that would probably be the "proper way" of getting a network interface over the LTE modem
Oct 12 20:15:40 <rcn-ee[m]> that's been done before... especially in the 2g/3g era..  but for lte, most manufactures got smart to just make it a usb network device..
Oct 12 20:15:44 <thinkfat> at least it sounds reasonable
Oct 12 20:16:14 <ayjay_t> rcn-ee[m]: well its wired over uart :-(
Oct 12 20:16:18 <rcn-ee[m]> yeah, 'pppd' scripts..
Oct 12 20:16:37 <ayjay_t> are you giving me keywords to search?
Oct 12 20:16:57 <ayjay_t> orrrrrr is it in one of the official/unofficial repos
Oct 12 20:17:43 <thinkfat> a blast from the past...
Oct 12 20:17:45 <thinkfat> pppd scripts
Oct 12 20:18:08 <rcn-ee[m]> a pain in the ass from the past. ;)
Oct 12 20:18:39 <ayjay_t> i mean, my understanding is thats the only way things were done back during the 56k modem days
Oct 12 20:18:46 <thinkfat> indeed
Oct 12 20:18:53 <ayjay_t> you said 2g/3g but i think it goes farther back, rcn-ee[m] ?
Oct 12 20:19:17 <thinkfat> I remember running an Amiga 2000 with Linux 68k, connecting to the internet through a 56k modem with hand-crafted pppd scripts
Oct 12 20:19:25 <ayjay_t> the issue being that those drivers aren't written to work with the device tree/work with BBB's uart unless there is comon uart platform used by the kernel :-/
Oct 12 20:19:40 <rcn-ee[m]> i didn't join the cell phone world till 2005, my cb worked find for college..
Oct 12 20:20:05 <thinkfat> cb?
Oct 12 20:20:09 <thinkfat> like, citizen band ?
Oct 12 20:20:13 <thinkfat> radio?
Oct 12 20:20:14 <rcn-ee[m]> 10-4
Oct 12 20:20:23 <thinkfat> oh god
Oct 12 20:20:33 <thinkfat> you were doing packet radio over cb?
Oct 12 20:21:21 <rcn-ee[m]> https://github.com/Seeed-Studio/ublox_lara_r2_pi_hat
Oct 12 20:21:28 <ayjay_t> i did see that
Oct 12 20:21:42 <ayjay_t> i wonder if i'm going to be connecting PPP0 to /dev/ttyS0 in userspace or something
Oct 12 20:21:53 * vagrantc waves to rcn-ee[m] 
Oct 12 20:22:13 <thinkfat> cq, cq, cq, cq, cq ...
Oct 12 20:22:18 <rcn-ee[m]> shouldn't have to do that, just make sure tx/rx/cts/rts are wired and enabled, ....
Oct 12 20:22:43 <rcn-ee[m]> then just use the /dev/ttySx
Oct 12 20:22:43 <ayjay_t> shouldn't have to do what?
Oct 12 20:22:50 <ayjay_t> wait why would I want to do that, rcn-ee[m]
Oct 12 20:23:00 <ayjay_t> it woudl be way more convenient to expose a network interface
Oct 12 20:23:06 <ayjay_t> than ic an use curl, lynx, sockets
Oct 12 20:24:09 <ayjay_t> but this is interesting: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/80163/how-to-use-at-over-uart-and-ppp0-over-ttys0-at-same-time
Oct 12 20:27:15 <ayjay_t> haaa but ppp looks pretttty ancient
Oct 12 20:27:36 <ayjay_t> consdering the comments in /etc/ppp/options warn you about settings for W95 and WNT
Oct 12 20:27:56 <vagrantc> ppp hasn't changed much
Oct 12 20:28:23 <ayjay_t> :-p
Oct 12 20:29:57 <ayjay_t> considering i'm reading docs from 1997 rofl
Oct 12 20:30:19 <ayjay_t> rcn-ee[m]: what do you think of my assessment of PPP > /dev/ttyS for those use cases?
Oct 12 20:32:40 <ayjay_t> i guess anyones thoughts
Oct 12 20:32:43 <ayjay_t> i'm prettttty confident in it
Oct 12 22:30:59 <Snert_> anyone seen a metal case ofr a beaglex15?
Oct 12 22:31:13 <Snert_> or an expansion board that gives access to gpio?
Oct 12 22:49:07 <veremitz> rcn-ee[m]: wb, ltns ;P
Oct 13 01:09:54 <set_> Some person just said a mouthful and the answer was reflash. That is awesome!
Oct 13 01:10:48 <set_> "Start from scratch," is an easier way to say that, too.
Oct 13 01:11:43 <set_> https://beagleboard.org/discuss#board_forum_embed?place=msg%2Fbeagleboard%2FgXk9Aegh0RM%2FsZZ-KxaVAAAJ is the link.
Oct 13 01:11:45 <set_> ...
Oct 13 01:12:03 <set_> Believe me. I know. I have "started from scratch" many times. Oops!
Oct 13 01:22:58 <set_> Onto it!
Oct 13 01:27:09 <set_> First off...attach that MotorCape. Make sure, if you are using the Cape w/ a BBBW, to get P8 on the Cape w/ P8 on the BBBW and the same for header P9. <<<< is this funny?
Oct 13 01:28:27 <veremitz> given what I've seen in here .. nope.
Oct 13 01:28:52 <set_> Dang!
Oct 13 01:28:58 <veremitz> what's sad, is that even needs saying, but ..
Oct 13 01:29:20 <set_> That was my instructions so far...Yea!
Oct 13 01:30:11 <set_> I have made myself think twice about specific rules regarding electricity. I thought, "Why not make the simple, simpler?"
Oct 13 01:30:29 <set_> Plug it in and make it work!
Oct 13 01:32:14 <set_> or...
Oct 13 01:32:22 <set_> "Do not try this at home!" That too works.
Oct 13 01:32:32 <veremitz> ^ this.
Oct 13 01:32:49 <set_> Does anyone remember those labels/decals?
Oct 13 01:33:34 <set_> Dang ESCs should come w/ those labels.
Oct 13 01:33:48 <set_> Dang six wire piece of nothingness.
Oct 13 02:44:14 <set_> Can software that shows errors still work, i.e. a Flask application online shows errors but then I go to the web page. Everything is working.
Oct 13 02:44:16 <set_> ?
Oct 13 02:44:18 <set_> Sorry.
Oct 13 02:44:57 <set_> Either that software does not "work" or someone has bugged me on Github.com w/ my IP address.
Oct 13 02:45:00 <set_> Odd days?
Oct 13 02:46:18 <set_> It states that the software is already in use. Too weird.
Oct 13 02:50:08 <set_> do not worry. Inspector BBB is on the case.
Oct 13 02:54:27 <set_> Nevermind. I must have created a service on this board.
Oct 13 02:54:28 <set_> Oops!
Oct 13 02:55:07 <set_> The weird thing is I just used git clone to get the software on my BBBW.
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