**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 16 03:00:30 2019 May 16 03:46:28 what should happen when boot a custom image holding down the s2 button May 16 04:07:04 SD! May 16 04:13:44 set_: you lost me May 16 04:35:35 black_13: what do you mean "what should happen" ? May 16 04:36:55 should i get any activity on the usb cable or flashing lights or something something or do i need a serial cable to see activity May 16 04:38:35 well you should *obviously* be monitoring the serial console when trying to debug boot issues of a custom image, otherwise you're basically blind and just wasting your time May 16 04:40:41 as for how your custom image uses the leds or usb, how are we supposed to know? it's your custom image :P May 16 04:40:54 fair enough May 16 04:46:35 https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial would be the correct for this May 16 05:00:24 yep, I use the standard ftdi cable May 16 05:05:34 ok May 16 05:05:48 and then minicom to watch the port May 16 05:20:17 minicom is one option. I use screen myself (via this wrapper script for convenience: https://pastebin.com/tnbzXVY4 ) May 16 06:00:04 * Humpelstilzchen is too stupid for minicom and goes for picocom instead **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 16 06:53:55 2019 May 16 08:11:32 Hello, I am currently looking into the x15 board for Qt development. EGLfs seems to be the recommended way for Qt. There are guides on how to enable it on the BBB, but not for the x15. Should it just work out of the box with the debian LXQT image? May 16 08:12:17 unlikely May 16 08:13:34 the kernel driver should be packaged hence trivial to install, but the userspace libs are more hassle May 16 08:14:11 you'd also want to remove any trace of mesa from the system as step 1 (and, as a result, remove x11) May 16 08:15:12 the steps should be very similar for bbb and bbx15 though May 16 08:16:49 Ok, thanks! I found this guide https://elinux.org/BeagleBoneBlack/SGX_%2B_Qt_EGLFS_%2B_Weston for the BBB, I will try and use it for the x15. May 16 08:18:37 the package to use for the x15 is ti-sgx-jacinto6evm-modules-$KERNEL_VERSION May 16 08:19:03 the section titled "The OLD Version" on that wiki page should be ignored entirely May 16 08:23:32 the reason I recommend removing mesa (in particular libgbm, libgles2, libegl) is because I've had very "interesting" issues where a process would accidently load both mesa and sgx libraries and use them in some magic blend that neither of them appreciated :P May 16 08:25:12 ok thanks, good to know. Is Weston still needed? May 16 08:26:03 weston has never been "needed", westen is probably often the goal May 16 08:27:07 as you mentioned there's the eglfs qpa layer to run qt5 apps fullscreen, so wayland is not required May 16 08:31:26 good to know, one source of problems fewer. May 16 09:25:03 Hi, i have a question about the trademark. I want to buy the beaglebone black from a china supplier, but he does not apear as official distributor on the beagleboard site May 16 09:25:22 Its ok to buy there? may i have any problems at Argentina customs? May 16 09:26:13 the beaglebone black design is open, so any company that wants to can produce clones (with or without modifications). however, they can't use the trademark without permission May 16 09:27:42 i have no idea if they have permision or not. maybe they buy from official distrbutor. The board and the box has the oficial logos May 16 09:30:45 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ May 16 09:32:17 i asked about the trademark but i get disconnected :( May 16 09:37:55 I'm not sure what you're expecting. you seem to basically be asking whether these beaglebones sold by some unidentified chinese supplier are genuine or not? how would we know? May 16 09:39:23 zmatt: no, actually he's asking about possible behaviour of argentinian customs when some board by an unidentified supplier gets shipped from china to, probably argentinia May 16 09:39:35 which is a clear: "go ask the customs" May 16 09:44:54 I think some customs actively control 'fakes' in the sense of brand protection. Since the boxes have the trademark, the the open source nature of the design is irrelevant. What the customs need to know is 'Is this manufacturer permitted to attach this trademark?' May 16 09:45:23 I think to answer that, beagle would have to provide a list of permitted trademark users May 16 09:47:07 exactly. what exactly the behaviour of the argentinians is, only they can possibly tell you. May 16 09:47:15 which would be the manufacturers, since a trademark identifies the origin/source of a product. it's not strange for a reseller to not be on any particular list May 16 09:48:18 (I don't need Coca Cola's permission to sell you a "Coca Cola", as long as it actually *is* one) May 16 10:42:59 exactly is like the coca cola example... May 16 10:43:29 so any idea who i can contact for to avoid any issues? May 16 10:48:38 ask the supplier to clarify who the manufacturer is? May 16 10:49:20 can you give us a link to their page? May 16 11:51:28 hello May 16 12:42:28 Hi i have created a mesh network with bbbw but the ssid is open to connect . Any possibilities to hide the ssid or secure May 16 12:53:28 here is the link May 16 12:53:29 https://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-shipping-BeagleBone-Black-TI-AM3358-Cortex-A8-development-BB-Black-Rev-C/1708157_32286116655.html May 16 13:03:33 any possibilities May 16 15:30:40 there is any way to redirect the messages from this that to a pipe? any script in any particular irc client? it was an old EEVBlog project May 16 15:31:18 this chat* **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 17 02:59:57 2019