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Jun 07 03:00:08 <set_> Oh.
Jun 07 03:00:44 <set_> I remember touching on this subject years ago. Oracle, right, just has their 32bit arm installs.
Jun 07 03:01:09 <set_> So, I just use apt instal openjdk-8-jre-headless?
Jun 07 03:02:55 <set_> 90MB!
Jun 07 03:03:55 <rcn-ee[m]> set_: here's the email: https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/aarch32-port-dev/2016-August/000406.html
Jun 07 03:04:25 <rcn-ee[m]> soon after they stopped building for armhf 32bit..
Jun 07 03:05:14 <set_> Oh.
Jun 07 03:05:28 <rcn-ee[m]> java 9: no arm downloads: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-javase9-3934878.html
Jun 07 03:05:42 <rcn-ee[m]> where as java 8: lots of them: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-javase8-2177648.html
Jun 07 03:07:16 <set_> I received errors. Pastebin on its way.
Jun 07 03:07:58 <set_> https://pastebin.com/PXZpdRzA is what I received from the installer install.
Jun 07 03:08:22 <rcn-ee[m]> sudo apt remove oracle-java8-installer --purge
Jun 07 03:09:13 <set_> Oh.
Jun 07 03:10:50 <set_> Okay. the headless version is already the newest version.
Jun 07 03:10:53 <set_> Now.
Jun 07 03:11:07 <set_> But...I cannot check which version of java I have on my BBB now?
Jun 07 03:11:25 <set_> Should I try some software?
Jun 07 03:11:32 * rcn-ee[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/MmGdFCozYSNnSfPDycgxOomV >
Jun 07 03:12:58 * rcn-ee[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/nRMnASnJEjfGQYLZsyHpGmXk >
Jun 07 03:12:59 <set_> https://pastebin.com/N4NH4iT0 is the error when trying --version.
Jun 07 03:13:30 <rcn-ee[m]> get rid of the second "-"... stupid java..
Jun 07 03:13:38 <set_> Okay.
Jun 07 03:16:00 <set_> Which "stupid" java?
Jun 07 03:16:16 <set_> JVM?
Jun 07 03:16:50 * rcn-ee[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ZUXBNyYvEXYcHQvhMEbMnFqw >
Jun 07 03:18:10 <rcn-ee[m]> new versions look funny, --version doesn't equal -version
Jun 07 03:18:11 * rcn-ee[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/EAOSIclLTqJXKdXNfpadYpgH >
Jun 07 03:18:26 <set_> Got it.
Jun 07 03:20:57 <set_> Oh!
Jun 07 03:21:20 <set_> You were not calling it "stupid," you were actually pointing to the -, as in the -- dashes.
Jun 07 03:21:22 <set_> Ha!
Jun 07 03:21:30 <set_> Odd days.
Jun 07 03:21:41 <GenTooMan> as opposed to even days
Jun 07 03:21:45 <set_> Right.
Jun 07 03:21:50 <set_> Even steven days.
Jun 07 03:22:10 <GenTooMan> I'll stick with the odds myself.
Jun 07 03:22:35 <set_> GenTooMan: Is it normal to have a java example w/ sys/fs to be in sudoers files?
Jun 07 03:23:42 <GenTooMan> set_ depends on what it's doing. Generally you should not need sudo unless you are doing something that requires root access.
Jun 07 03:24:09 <set_> Oh. Okay. I keep getting this print out but I think it is just that..."a print out."
Jun 07 03:24:42 <set_> Also, you have to add the java path to the sudoers file secure_path using: sudo visudo <<<---- This idea?
Jun 07 03:25:58 <set_> Anyway...
Jun 07 03:26:04 <set_> No issue. The LEDs get lit.
Jun 07 03:26:24 <GenTooMan> blinking LED's! what's important that blinking light!
Jun 07 03:26:44 <set_> +rcn-ee[m]: Thank you for your efforts. It works dandy.
Jun 07 03:26:46 <set_> ...
Jun 07 03:26:56 <set_> GenTooMan: Yep. LED, LED, LED!
Jun 07 03:27:42 <set_> Now, onto finding my Java Book or whatever book I had on java.
Jun 07 03:29:09 <set_> Hey.
Jun 07 03:29:20 <set_> Does the BBB come prepackaged w/ the C language?
Jun 07 03:29:32 <set_> Nevermind. Yea.
Jun 07 03:29:42 <GenTooMan> set_ umm does it come with GCC installed you mean? :D
Jun 07 03:29:55 <set_> Yea. I tried gcc and cc. Both work.
Jun 07 03:30:19 <set_> Well, they both fail for what I have been attempting.
Jun 07 03:30:57 <set_> I think this fellow from this udemy site based his findings on his own LCD examples on his own images.
Jun 07 03:30:58 <set_> ...
Jun 07 03:31:07 <set_> I think he is using an older model of the current image.
Jun 07 03:32:02 <GenTooMan> as per usual depends on what you are attempting to do, you should be able to interface the BBB to an LCD IF the IO is available and you you have console access through the serial port
Jun 07 03:32:32 <set_> Right but I am going by his example. I am unfamiliar w/ LCD stuff thus far.
Jun 07 03:32:40 <GenTooMan> remember any time you interface something you have to have the I2C device tell the system what IO needs to do what for example.
Jun 07 03:33:06 <set_> Oh.
Jun 07 03:33:13 <set_> Okay.
Jun 07 03:33:31 <GenTooMan> the I2C device configures the bus at boot. Otherwise you have to configure the bus and do so carefully.
Jun 07 03:34:11 <set_> I am actually, from his example, using some GPIO examples and doing it on the user side w/ .h files and .c file.
Jun 07 03:34:20 <set_> For instance, these .c files cannot get compiled yet.
Jun 07 03:34:26 <set_> This has been my issue so far.
Jun 07 03:34:53 <set_> GenTooMan: I know it is not your issue. I thought I would describe this concern.
Jun 07 03:39:40 <set_> Anyway...I was just given some advice. The person stated that I need to follow some prerequisisites before understanding how things were laid out.
Jun 07 03:39:41 <set_> ...
Jun 07 03:39:52 <set_> Blah.
Jun 07 04:00:10 <Venu> hello
Jun 07 04:00:47 <Venu> can anybody let me know does the antenna come by default with BBBWL-SC-562
Jun 07 04:04:53 <zmatt> it has two antennas: https://media.digikey.com/Photos/GHI-Electronics/BBBWL-SC-562.jpg
Jun 07 04:05:08 <zmatt> which you'd normally rotate outward like this https://www.digikey.com/-/media/MakerIO/Images/blogs/2017/BBBW%20Setup/Cover.jpg
Jun 07 04:10:09 <Venu> but those two antennas come with the kit by default
Jun 07 04:10:22 <Venu> or need to be ordered separatelt
Jun 07 04:10:23 <zmatt> they are attached to it
Jun 07 04:10:48 <zmatt> so yes they are included
Jun 07 04:10:55 <zmatt> I don't even think you can order them separately
Jun 07 05:55:22 <Gaurav__> I just want to boot beagle bone black AM335x from Nand flash
Jun 07 05:55:40 <Gaurav__> Can anyone tell me the procedure
Jun 07 06:13:50 <tbr> Gaurav__: the procedure is outlined in the AM335x technical reference manual in detail
Jun 07 06:14:13 <tbr> please look at that yourself
Jun 07 11:27:12 <zmatt> is it? and up to date?
Jun 07 11:27:47 <zmatt> what an odd thing to want, also
Jun 07 11:32:36 <tbr> zmatt: I mean it should have the basic pointers about how to boot, including nand. I didn't want to add my usual "ask specific questions" as people tend not to understand that and just restate their question slightly the same
Jun 07 11:33:48 <zmatt> oh somehow I failed spectacularly at reading and thought you said the BBB system reference manual.... I just woke up :P
Jun 07 11:34:10 <zmatt> never mind then, yep all the info is indeed in the TRM!
Jun 07 11:44:24 <Gaurav__> Is anyone there
Jun 07 11:44:25 <Gaurav__> ?
Jun 07 13:59:12 <tbr> zmatt: ah, yes, I've been there, never got a t-short for it :)
Jun 07 14:08:11 <zmatt> jkridner[m]: oh btw our beaglebones are manufactured by Embest
Jun 07 14:10:32 <zmatt> we get them from farnell, who gave a (rather late) product change notice that they changed from element14 to embest, which also has a newer eMMC (which is the reason they ended up sending a PCN, since this turned out to be an issue for some customer)
Jun 07 14:11:29 <jkridner[m]> yeah, that pair too, but pretty old. compliant timeframe.
Jun 07 14:11:43 <zmatt> and both the two beaglebones that have the same serial and the one I found that claims to be an element14 beaglebone black industrial have the new eMMC
Jun 07 14:12:07 <zmatt> did you catch my message earlier about that?
Jun 07 14:16:14 <zmatt> I'll send you the info on that one as well
Jun 07 14:17:15 <jkridner[m]> ah. industrial.
Jun 07 14:17:43 <jkridner[m]> i will take it up with them.
Jun 07 14:17:58 <zmatt> I'm assuming they didn't start producing actual industrial ones with a black pcb
Jun 07 14:18:11 <zmatt> lemme check the part marking
Jun 07 14:20:07 <zmatt> yeah, commercial temperature rating
Jun 07 15:15:19 <jkridner[m]> zmatt: I took both issues to Embest. We'll see how they respond.
Jun 07 15:34:39 <zmatt> hehe, I look forward to their reply
Jun 07 15:56:05 <zmatt>  /cl
Jun 07 15:56:09 <zmatt> woops
Jun 07 18:17:37 <zmatt> jkridner[m]: hmm, the bbb claiming to be industrial also happens to be the only bbb in my db from that production week (2018 wk 25)... I wonder if the whole batch got messed up :D   I'll send you a summary of the beaglebones in my db, in case you're interested in the stats
Jun 07 18:19:01 <zmatt> the 50 beaglebones marked with *2 are also odd, although not as egregariously so as the other two "incidents"
Jun 07 18:31:55 <jkridner[m]> k. about how many have you collected? more stats is always nice.
Jun 07 18:32:12 <zmatt> jkridner[m]: number of devices for each line is the first number in the line
Jun 07 18:35:46 <zmatt> jkridner[m]: I've added a total count for your convenience :)   are the *2 devices (2018 wk 14) also Embest?
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Jun 07 21:25:25 <jani_> I need to purchase 5V Power Supply for BeagleBoard-xM.  Does anyone know a store in Metro Detroit that sells the correct 5V DC Power Supply for the board?
Jun 07 21:36:02 <jwgarber> jani_: the power supply specs are on this page
Jun 07 21:36:11 <jwgarber> https://beagleboard.org/Support/FAQ
Jun 07 21:36:27 <jwgarber> under "power peripherals"
Jun 07 21:37:50 <jwgarber> that power supply model should be pretty common to find in most electronics stores
Jun 07 21:38:01 <jwgarber> if not there is always DigiKey, where I got mine
Jun 07 21:38:07 <jwgarber> or some other online website
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