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Jun 21 12:09:05 <kremlin> m
Jun 21 12:49:13 <fth> hi guys
Jun 21 12:49:30 <fth> may anyone help me
Jun 21 12:49:30 <fth> ?
Jun 21 12:50:14 <fth> hi
Jun 21 13:07:08 <tbr> we can only help if people who need help explain what they need help with
Jun 21 13:07:11 <tbr> simple
Jun 21 15:26:36 <aravind> Hello all, Right now i made an small mobile application which can discover bluetooth devices near by and can connect with them. In my case now i have my BBBW bluetooth enabled in it. My app can discover my BBBW and tries to connect as expected, but first time it prompts an auth yes/no in my BBBW terminal which i don't want to happen even the first time.
Jun 21 15:27:29 <aravind> but when i do that manually from terminal it will connect the next time without prompt which is fine
Jun 21 15:28:19 <aravind> any command with which i can over ride that .Thanks
Jun 21 15:29:08 <aravind> Is Bluetooth Communication Possible Without Pairing?
Jun 21 16:03:33 <zmatt> without pairing? no.  without a prompt on the beaglebone? of course
Jun 21 16:07:50 <zmatt> you probably need to configure something anyway to indicate that your device has no UI for a passkey but instead uses a fixed one (which you'd e.g. put on a sticker on the product)
Jun 21 16:08:49 <zmatt> or, if you do intend to have a UI, you should make a passkey agent that handles it
Jun 21 16:09:33 <zmatt> right now you're using the agent in bluetoothctl (which is what you enable with "agent on")
Jun 21 16:11:52 <zmatt> ah it seems a pin is entirely optional
Jun 21 16:12:53 <zmatt> https://www.kynetics.com/docs/2018/pairing_agents_bluez/
Jun 21 16:15:29 <zmatt> the simplest solution seems to be run bt-agent as a service
Jun 21 16:20:40 <zmatt> allowing pairing without any interaction whatsoever doesn't sound like a smart idea from a security point of view though :P
Jun 21 16:23:09 <aravind> thanks matt
Jun 21 16:23:22 <aravind> yup \
Jun 21 16:25:30 <zmatt> lol, in the bt-agent source code:
Jun 21 16:25:34 <zmatt> // Not touching this for now. It seems to work.
Jun 21 16:25:53 <zmatt> confidence-inspiring
Jun 21 22:26:39 <needhelp> does anyone know how to connect to BeagleBone?
Jun 21 22:53:12 <GenTooMan> You mean the original beagle bone?
Jun 22 00:00:05 <veremitz> usb, ssh, keyboard?
Jun 22 00:00:44 <zmatt> needhelp: no, noone does, we all just use our beaglebones as decorative objects
Jun 22 00:01:04 <mawk> lol
Jun 22 00:02:17 <zmatt> jkridner: http://bbb.io/start is just a blank page
Jun 22 00:17:28 <jkridner[m]> javascript enabled?
Jun 22 00:17:35 <zmatt> yes
Jun 22 00:17:51 <zmatt> why would it need javascript?
Jun 22 00:18:21 <zmatt> I kind of assumed it was supposed to be a redirect to the getting-started guide, but it doesn't do so
Jun 22 00:39:44 <jkridner[m]> it is, but I don’t have a 301 generator
Jun 22 00:42:22 <zmatt> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=http://beagleboard.org/getting-started">
Jun 22 01:13:28 <veremitz> throws me to https://beagleboard.org/start
Jun 22 01:15:38 <veremitz> ah thats still wrong isn't it ..
Jun 22 01:15:55 <veremitz> its a blank page, but with the bb framework
Jun 22 01:16:30 <veremitz> it should indeed probably be /getting-started
Jun 22 01:18:13 <zmatt> yeah, that's what I meant, sorry.  bbb.io/start indeed redirects to https://beagleboard.org/start but that's a blank page
Jun 22 01:18:57 <zmatt> while it should presumably go to the getting-started guide, and more specifically the http (rather than https) version of it
Jun 22 01:19:20 <veremitz> is it listening on both http[s]?
Jun 22 01:19:35 <zmatt> yes
Jun 22 01:19:41 <veremitz> yup apparently so
Jun 22 01:21:03 <veremitz> damnit why is it trying 192.168.7.2 and .6.2 ?!
Jun 22 01:21:09 <zmatt> the websockets used for device discovery in step 2 only work if the page is loaded via http, because browser developers entirely stop caring about your security the second a local device is involved
Jun 22 01:21:27 <zmatt> what do you mean "why" ?
Jun 22 01:21:40 <veremitz> oh.
Jun 22 01:21:53 <veremitz> its this silly auto-detection bollocks :p
Jun 22 01:22:01 <veremitz> because nobody apparently knows how to 'ping' any more.
Jun 22 01:22:10 <zmatt> it's user convenience
Jun 22 01:22:27 <zmatt> it's one thing less to troubleshoot if they fail to get in for whatever reason
Jun 22 01:22:33 <veremitz> hmm yes, a lot of modern bloat can be put down to "convenience"
Jun 22 01:22:50 <veremitz> but yea, considering the usual level of inexpertise here .. I'll let this one slide ;)
Jun 22 01:23:37 <veremitz> I was just irked because thats  my Class C LAN network :/
Jun 22 01:25:00 <veremitz> you can't win though with class-C's :D
Jun 22 01:25:09 <veremitz> I should just go full-blown ipv6 :/
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