**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 25 02:59:57 2020 Feb 25 03:00:05 UUID=534cb189-23cb-425a-bd57-5acd7abaa5ea /path/to/mountpoint ext4 users,noauto 0 0 Feb 25 03:00:16 except using the correct UUID for your filesystem obviously Feb 25 03:00:48 that will allow mount to locate your filesystem regardless of what its device path is Feb 25 03:01:09 to mount/unmount just use (u)mount /path/to/mountpoint (no sudo required) Feb 25 03:02:56 Added first line. Works grest, thanks. Feb 25 03:04:08 see http://paste.debian.net/1132066/ Feb 25 03:06:36 If I do sudo blkid /dev/sda1 what will happen if I use a different flash drive? Won't the UUID change? Feb 25 03:06:59 oh right if you want to use different flash drives then you'll need to use a device path Feb 25 03:08:39 By the by I downloaded the trial of Paragon Software for Windows and can read/write files and directories. Making errors on purpose and it worked fine. Feb 25 03:09:26 That's to support Linux formatted ext4 under Windoze 10. Feb 25 03:16:46 KenUnix: I could not find any info. for your particular chipset. Feb 25 03:17:18 I found "almost" info. for current kernel usage but notta really. Feb 25 03:17:40 Back to Mardi Gras fascinations. Feb 25 03:17:58 CU but not CUS! Blah! Feb 25 03:23:28 Well forget about the RTL chipset maybe I would be better off getting a BeagleBone WiFi and be done with it. I think all you loose is the Ethernet port. I should be able to get to it over the net? huh? Feb 25 03:25:20 In a pinch I should be able to use a USB-Ethernet adaper, huh? Feb 25 03:26:15 Heh? Feb 25 03:26:22 Right! Feb 25 03:26:43 ardi Gras /**\ /$$\ *** colors Feb 25 03:26:55 Yea, most adapters work if there is a driver. Feb 25 03:26:57 Ha. Feb 25 03:27:50 I found that if you plug in the barrel jack for powering the device, since WiFi takes up a lot of power, the Wifi Adapters work better and work. Feb 25 03:28:15 Back to that driver thing again. My last bout with drivers was trying to connect a 20 drive raid aray with dual controllers to an HP-9000 server. Feb 25 03:28:26 Oh. Feb 25 03:28:47 20 Drives! That is a lot of computing. Feb 25 03:30:29 Do you have a popular site? Feb 25 03:30:44 Use ufw. That should take care of the crawlers. Feb 25 03:33:30 scraper/crawler/whatever Feb 25 03:34:09 Where'd I go? Anyway the whole system was backed up by an APC UPS which was backed up by a generator. It anything tripped I got automatically paged. Feb 25 03:34:28 Neat. Feb 25 03:35:15 Those APC units are expensive. I have about 30 that "people" dumped on me. I need to recycle them but that even costs money these days. Feb 25 03:35:17 Blah. Feb 25 03:35:33 And... Feb 25 03:35:50 The batteries are what need to be updated constantly. Feb 25 03:35:51 Yea, special power panels with ground windows. And 208v 3 phase. Which also powered multiple modem racks and the LAN equipment, etc. Feb 25 03:36:19 Neat. Feb 25 03:36:38 Had problems with Feb 25 03:36:44 Oh. Feb 25 03:36:49 ? Feb 25 03:37:31 expanding battery packs in multiple UPS's. Very hard to remove. But then it was considered the best. Feb 25 03:38:01 Right. I remember. Now, there are many types. Tripplite and so on. Feb 25 03:38:38 Those damn batteries. I am basically banging the enclosure to rid the battery of its compartment. Feb 25 03:38:45 Yikes. Feb 25 03:39:10 Then you had to hot swap the battery's while system was online. Downtime, I don't think so. Feb 25 03:39:14 I guess setting up a BBB w/ UPS backup would be a good idea for source running constantly. Feb 25 03:39:22 Oh. Feb 25 03:39:37 Esp. w/ Bluetooth or WiFi. Feb 25 03:40:13 Hey KenUnix: Did you get that BBAI yet? Feb 25 03:40:25 I dunno. Dosen't seem quit that important. Feb 25 03:40:38 oh. It has Ethernet and WiFi! Feb 25 03:40:46 Things seem more lax today. Feb 25 03:40:55 That is neat on an updated image. Feb 25 03:41:16 You mean, you need less power or just less in general? Feb 25 03:42:09 What I mean was those damn UPS's had to be brought in on skids! Feb 25 03:42:17 HA. Feb 25 03:42:47 I need a skid for mowing. I wish I had one. I could tackle some neat jobs. Feb 25 03:42:51 What has Ethernet & WiFi image? Feb 25 03:42:59 Oh. The BBAI. Feb 25 03:43:02 It has both on it. Feb 25 03:43:28 You got both worlds on one board. Feb 25 03:43:56 Yea but it's lie $157. Skids like in skids to move heavy objects. Feb 25 03:44:29 Skids...oh. Not like pnuematic attachments on a skid? Feb 25 03:44:52 Pallet Jack/Skid? Feb 25 03:45:15 no. I did look at the BBAI but it began to get too expensive. Feb 25 03:45:43 Oh. Feb 25 03:46:09 I got it. It boots quickly, has some extra storage, and can process fast if I make it do so. Feb 25 03:46:19 But. Feb 25 03:46:31 I am trying to save it for later until things are more on my level. Feb 25 03:47:00 I cannot set up c/c++ source from drivers yet. Feb 25 03:47:00 Got a case for it? %v or 12V power? Feb 25 03:47:14 Testing. Feb 25 03:47:17 For fun! Feb 25 03:47:38 I always wanted to make a Cape. Feb 25 03:47:43 But... Feb 25 03:47:50 Then, life happened. Feb 25 03:48:20 Well amazon has various capes Feb 25 03:48:33 I did not know about specific technologies revolving around the BBB.io foundation and general info. Feb 25 03:48:36 I found some. yes. Feb 25 03:48:52 I got a MotorCape. It is nice. Feb 25 03:49:23 I got this bot thing I am going to use to talk to people in the community about all things electrical! Feb 25 03:49:33 bzzt! Feb 25 03:49:56 A friend always asks "are you having fun"? That's all that matters. Feb 25 03:50:16 It is an okay bot. Nothing special but it has a BBBW on it, the MotorCape, and some motors. Feb 25 03:50:31 It can fly if I wanted it to. Feb 25 03:50:52 But. That is not for the faire. I am stuck inside at the faire this year. Feb 25 03:51:05 Where's you BBB? Up! Ha. Feb 25 03:51:18 "Boss, the plane!" Feb 25 03:52:00 I put the Grabber on it. Feb 25 03:52:11 My bot can now grab stuff. Feb 25 03:52:28 I want to make some tracks for it one day and put it in the dang yard. Feb 25 03:52:38 ... Feb 25 03:53:08 Yea, bot get me a coke! Feb 25 03:53:49 I got some old, used stuff for traction. I figured w/ that traction, I can use it to mow my dang grass too. Feb 25 03:54:06 set, I have to go. My eyes are acting up. Enough tonight. Feb 25 03:54:10 My neighbor died you see. We were working on it. Feb 25 03:54:14 Later! Feb 25 03:54:30 Anyway, I am stuck w/ just the thoughts. Feb 25 03:54:56 Have fun, KenUnix. Feb 25 03:55:16 Have fun... Think thinking. Bye. Feb 25 03:55:21 Later. Feb 25 07:53:25 is beaglebone black is inbuilt with gps? Feb 25 07:55:06 can anyone help me? Feb 25 07:59:27 zmatt: thanks Feb 25 08:20:59 vphacker: no because you won't stick around long enough for anyone to answer you :p Feb 25 08:21:15 QED you cannot be helped. Feb 25 08:44:51 Hello, i've got a question about BB boards support (life cycle). I could now find any information about it in the docs/wiki. I am interested in the lifecycle BBB Industrial, and BB AI Feb 25 08:51:00 you would probably have to contact the manufacturer. They don't normally visit here Feb 25 09:04:49 ok thank you , have a nice day Feb 25 09:45:20 I need help to do projects with BBG. Can somebody help me please? Feb 25 09:56:33 Hello Feb 25 12:59:29 i picked up my pocketbeagle and the usb port snapped off, any way to fix? Feb 25 13:19:50 photo? Feb 25 13:20:53 f16falcona46: ^ Feb 25 13:23:43 f16falcona46: if the solder pads are not lifted, maybe with a decent soldering iron, a magnifier and some extra flux it can be repaired Feb 25 13:38:31 sry i was afk Feb 25 13:38:38 i think the solder pads are ok Feb 25 13:38:42 the solder itself fractured Feb 25 13:39:24 https://i.imgur.com/OmBBEwu.jpg Feb 25 13:39:27 sounds like a dry joint Feb 25 13:39:53 or even just .. not soldered :/ Feb 25 13:40:02 that would be a big oof Feb 25 13:40:13 i did manage to connect to it once before though Feb 25 13:40:40 is the grey stuff still crystalline? that should be shiny silver Feb 25 13:41:09 it sometimes happens with solder paste Feb 25 13:41:53 the gray? it just looks dull Feb 25 13:42:04 no crystals i can see Feb 25 13:42:17 tbh I'd be inclined to send that back for replacement .. I'd say it's failed QA Feb 25 13:42:35 all the pads are in-tact yes? Feb 25 13:42:46 all pads look fine Feb 25 13:43:02 i don't think i can send it back anymore, i bought it in june 2019 Feb 25 13:43:07 oh ok :D Feb 25 13:43:36 it is repairable then, just takes a bit of skill :) Feb 25 13:43:52 and a magnifier does help, and a steady hand ofc Feb 25 13:44:08 what's the plan, use solder paste, hot air, and then go at it with a desoldering wick? Feb 25 13:45:49 I think I'd clean it [all] up first, solder the four tabs down, and then the five 'data' pins. Hot air can go a bit wild unless you're careful. Equally though, large soldering iron bits get wayward too.. :) Feb 25 13:46:12 if you're confident with hot air, and have a preheater, that does work Feb 25 13:46:37 beware of other 'dancing' components though Feb 25 13:46:44 heh Feb 25 13:47:04 FB1 and U2 and R3 could 'get loose' Feb 25 13:47:57 i'm just afraid more stuff is going to come off the board Feb 25 13:48:13 especially the sip Feb 25 13:48:51 but yeah i'm gonna go try it when i have time Feb 25 13:48:52 yeah thats why gut instinct would probably be to RMA it. But if it works .. Feb 25 13:49:10 well honestly idk how to even rma it Feb 25 13:49:38 i bought it in a physical store, but that was in a different state from where i am now Feb 25 13:49:49 ah Feb 25 13:49:53 i guess i'll just email them before trying anything Feb 25 13:51:10 and uh .. bad luck! Feb 25 13:52:08 Interesting solder joint remains. Feb 25 14:21:54 m Feb 25 14:22:50 m krelin Feb 25 14:23:00 kremlin even (sigh) Feb 25 15:18:39 Hey guys, Feb 25 15:18:39 I detected some weird behaviour running the same code on the BBBlack and the BBBlue with some sensors. Feb 25 15:18:39 It seems the BBBlack is a lot faster. Has anyone seen a behaviour like this before? As they have the same processor there should not be any difference, I thought. Feb 25 15:20:43 f16falcona46: no need for hot air with that Feb 25 15:20:54 also, no need for paste Feb 25 15:22:00 soldering iron with a flat chisel tip, first wick the solder from all the pads Feb 25 15:22:43 add some solder to one of the mechanical pads, some extra flux from a pen Feb 25 15:23:35 solder one of the flanges and align the usb pads, then flux the usb pads Feb 25 15:23:57 then solder the usb pads, then the remaining flanges **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 25 15:26:37 2020 Feb 25 15:33:49 I'd avoid hot air. not necessary here. Also, risk to burn the plastic part of the socket. Feb 25 16:16:05 :) Feb 25 18:39:05 Hmmm now that I think about it I've suffered from similar solder joint failures before. I am suddenly concerned over the strength of the solder under the BGA on his Pocket Beagle. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 25 19:26:28 2020 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 26 12:53:09 2020 Feb 26 13:34:57 Hello, i've just found a bug on Debian for Beaglebone Feb 26 13:35:10 Where can i report and discuss? Feb 26 13:35:49 I've digged down enough to find out that systemd-timesyncd and connmand are each one getting a different tiemzone Feb 26 13:45:52 if it's debian it's should be in #debian likely have you updated your debian version to the latest? you also should check www.debian.org and methods for bug reporting etc. Feb 26 13:53:19 But it's Debian built for Beaglebone. Feb 26 14:16:52 goostavobg: I'd suggest trying to replicate it on an official Debian install on a VM or something. Then you'll know who to report the bug to. Feb 26 14:50:56 I am wondering how to install Linux system onto a sata ssd on bb-x15. Wtite ARM image into flash drive, point u-boot to load from it and then standard installation? Feb 26 15:39:18 why would connmand do anything with timezones? o.O Feb 26 15:39:22 that sounds odd Feb 26 15:42:44 embden_new[m]: maybe https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard/xPYp2vR6TDk/NEGhUdZaAgAJ is of help? Feb 26 15:49:35 embden_new[m]: putting u-boot and /boot on eMMC sounds like the simplest solution Feb 26 15:50:20 (i.e. his option 1) Feb 26 18:50:38 zmatt: thank you for the link Feb 26 20:29:44 BeagleBone vs STM cards. We are developing the system to control the robot that performs numerous operations, like controlling pumps, controlling temperature, controlling humidifiers, moving the robot head and performing dispensing, etc. There is no much hard-realtime requirements instead of a few small places that can be comfortably handled by Feb 26 20:29:44 PRU. The robot is connected to Windows PC that provides powerful UI. Recently we have hired a new guy that claims that the industry-standard is to use the STM cards instead of BeagleBone, because of the industry-strength and a better real-time precision. As such, I would like to hear the opinion of this group on the subject. Are there any Feb 26 20:29:45 industrial-strength system that use BB? Feb 26 20:49:52 hired wrong guy? :D Feb 26 21:08:13 dream-hiker: "STM cards" ? Feb 26 21:08:52 as in, stm32 ? those are cortex-m3 microcontrollers, so you can't really compare them directly to the BBB Feb 26 21:10:47 there are definite downsides to running linux on your board, but also benefits. it provides a more flexible and generally easier environment to work in Feb 26 21:11:21 as for hard real-time, PRU will do a better job at that than a cortex-m Feb 26 21:12:11 on an stm32 you're not going to control gpios with 5ns accurate timing like pru can Feb 26 21:13:07 but there are definitely situations where a microcontroller might be more appropriate than a BBB Feb 26 21:14:11 it also sounds like it'd be a bit late to be pondering whether a totally different design might have been better :P Feb 26 21:23:14 "industrial-strength" is - what, exactly? Just using an STM32 micro controller doesn't mean anything. A "blue pill" certainly doesn't have anything industrial. Feb 26 21:34:45 Do we know of any good industry cases where BB was used? Feb 26 21:36:47 I imagine one would usually not be aware of that, but if there were no market demand then the beaglebone black industrial wouldn't have been created :) Feb 26 21:45:28 zmatt, one can say that BB is used mainly by hobbyist and students. A few good examples would suffice. Feb 26 21:46:17 why would a hobbyist or student pay extra for a BBB that's higher temperature-rated and conformally coated? Feb 26 21:51:51 and how would one know about industrial applications? what motivation would people in industry have to do a write-up on how they're using beaglebones? Feb 26 21:52:18 (or any other particular board) Feb 26 22:13:26 Evening. Feb 26 22:14:07 Hey...how are things going w/ your BBB? Feb 26 22:14:53 On mine, I am currently removing all OpenCV packages now! Feb 26 22:15:06 I am getting issues w/ their source for now. Feb 26 22:15:14 I really hate to sound stupid but what's difference between IoT,Console & no GUI images? Feb 26 22:15:31 IoT = no GUI images Feb 26 22:15:40 Console is a smaller image w/ less on it Feb 26 22:16:17 LXQT is the GUI image Feb 26 22:16:51 It's funny on one image Windoze will allow me to open the SD-card yet on another it won't? Feb 26 22:17:28 iot is generally the recommended image, lxqt adds a desktop environment on top of it (pointlessly heavyweight, not recommended), the console image is pretty minimal for people who prefer to just install the stuff they want Feb 26 22:18:07 not sure what you mean, none of these images are viewable on windows (except using special tools, but you already know that) Feb 26 22:18:59 To burn a new image to the BBB I would use the eMMc flasher image rite? Feb 26 22:19:13 wait. Feb 26 22:19:34 yes, although you can easily turn a normal image into an eMMC flasher by uncommenting a single line in /boot/uEnv.txt so it's not strictly needed to download a separate image for that Feb 26 22:21:05 Yes, I was just going to ask reading bbb-uEnv.txt with vim for Windoze Feb 26 22:21:21 bbb-uEnv.txt is a legacy file and should be ignored Feb 26 22:21:33 (which is indicated in the comments at the top) Feb 26 22:22:58 The only other two files in root are nfs-uEnv.txt and id.txt Feb 26 22:23:14 why are you looking in the root? Feb 26 22:23:32 it's /boot/uEnv.txt :) Feb 26 22:23:37 Well where does it look when booting? Feb 26 22:25:27 OK. That file has uname_r=4.19.94-ti-r34 in it. What line needs changing? Feb 26 22:26:22 there's a commented-out line that sets the cmdline variable to something involving the eMMC flasher... I think it's the last line of the file but not sure Feb 26 22:27:22 The last line is not commented out. It is cmdline=init=/opt/scripts/tools/eMMC/init-eMMC-flasher-v3.sh Feb 26 22:27:46 uhh, on the normal image it'll be commented out, otherwise the image is a flasher Feb 26 22:30:11 So this IS a flasher image. Also I now have 240MB free on my eMMc. Think that's enough to riska upgrade? Feb 26 22:30:50 seems improbable Feb 26 22:31:58 if I had that little space remaining on eMMC, my primary concern would be figuring out what's consuming so much space and cleaning it up Feb 26 22:33:02 Well liiking at a complete BBB Debian image it's 3.6GB? Feb 26 22:33:20 (though my issue isn't system software but the fact that the home directories of the developers (including me) are taking up 1.5G of space in total) Feb 26 22:33:40 A Console image is only 921MB. Feb 26 22:34:04 are you talkign about image size? compressed image size? space used on image? Feb 26 22:34:26 Image IMG file siaze Feb 26 22:34:40 that's fairly irrelevant Feb 26 22:35:10 since the images are not shrunk to minimum size (though I have no idea why they aren't) Feb 26 22:35:33 what matters is how much space is actually *used* on them Feb 26 22:42:40 Now if I go with the smaller image could I still access BBB via USB? Knowing Browser won't work. And VNC can't work, no desktop. Feb 26 22:44:06 you can ssh in via usb networking or ethernet, and the iot image also has a webserver with some stuff Feb 26 22:44:07 That's SSH into it shold not be ab isssue. Feb 26 22:46:27 Um, there's iot no gui, iot console , iot flasher... Feb 26 22:47:15 uhh no, there's iot, lxqt, and console... and of each of those a standalone image and a flasher Feb 26 22:48:45 the latest iot image is the second big blue link on the https://beagleboard.org/latest-images page... the flasher is supposed to be the one under "Flasher Debian images" but it _still_ hasn't been updated (argh) Feb 26 22:50:02 Let me think on it. You know I was looking at Tinker Board, ODRIOD, etc. And the BBB seems to have the best support. Feb 26 22:50:22 the console image can only be found among the testing images on the wiki => https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Stretch_Console_Snapshot Feb 26 22:51:37 the iot image is recommended for most users Feb 26 22:51:50 the console image is more appropriate if you're already experienced with debian system administration Feb 26 22:55:31 So a good choice for me would be: am57xx-eMMC-flasher-debian-10.2-iot-armhf-2020-02-03-4gb.img.xz Feb 26 22:55:59 no Feb 26 22:57:16 OK, which then? Feb 26 22:57:43 since that's 1. for the wrong board 2. a testing image, whereas you should probably just use the latest recommended one Feb 26 22:57:46 23:48 <@zmatt> the latest iot image is the second big blue link on the https://beagleboard.org/latest-images page Feb 26 22:59:21 if you need it to be a flasher you can just uncomment the relevant line in /boot/uEnv.txt Feb 26 23:00:28 OK then it's: bone-debian-9.9-iot-armhf-2019-08-03-4gb.img.xz Feb 26 23:00:43 yes Feb 26 23:01:21 Dinner bell's ringing I'll be on the side.. Feb 26 23:11:19 at the sound of the bell Feb 26 23:56:08 I've been watching special news regarding Coronova Virus. Started in China from people eating Bats. ugg. Feb 27 00:06:37 Bats! Feb 27 00:07:01 Hey...I got that Gunicorn stuff for servers working again w/ the BBGW! Feb 27 00:07:08 yea boy! Feb 27 00:07:16 now onto uwsgi! Feb 27 00:07:45 Wish me luck? Feb 27 00:10:06 Yes, Bats! More specifically excrement... What's Gunicorn stuff? Feb 27 00:10:26 Oh. Servers for python stuff. Feb 27 00:10:53 Running servers on Debian or other distros. Feb 27 00:11:25 Oh. Well now it's up in the air to replace my broke BBB with a BBB or BBWiFi? Feb 27 00:12:05 Hey. If you get one, get the WiFi. The BBBW has some neat WiFi capabilities! Feb 27 00:12:16 No need for power adapters. Feb 27 00:13:17 I thought burning SD-cards need more current? Is the serial interface still 3.3V TTL? Feb 27 00:15:11 I think that you are at 5v from the desktop/laptop to the BBBW/BBB/etc. Feb 27 00:15:38 Then, you are at 3.3v logic families when providing signals out of the pins and to the pins. Feb 27 00:16:37 That part is complicated, sort of. B/c if you want specific logic families, the BBBW/BBB/etc can get damanged. Feb 27 00:16:38 BBB is 3.3V to TTL via USB. Feb 27 00:16:51 I think there are three or four families that the BBB accepts. Feb 27 00:16:57 Oh. Feb 27 00:16:58 Okay. Feb 27 00:17:19 Yea. B/c those are the pins right? Feb 27 00:17:41 Yes, on a 6 pin header Feb 27 00:17:52 Right. That one. Feb 27 00:18:04 But...that is different than the USB port. Feb 27 00:18:43 Are you saying with the BBWifi certain "capes" could spell trouble? Feb 27 00:18:44 I thought computers had 5v coming out of them for powering the BBBW and for communication. That PMIC must handle that difference in logic. Feb 27 00:18:54 It depends. Feb 27 00:19:50 YOu will need step up/step down converters (maybe) if you are to handle specific pins on the BBBW/BBB/etc. Feb 27 00:21:36 OK. The P.C. USB to the Micro-USB is one thing but the serial console on the BBB goes to a 3.3V TTL - RS-232 adapter which also plugs into a P.U. USB port. The serial port is nice cause you can monitor and interact with the BBB in case the USB-USB connection has issues. You use Putty in either case. Feb 27 00:22:48 YOu can. Yes. Feb 27 00:23:18 You can use PuTTY, ssh, or other serial console emulators. Feb 27 00:23:35 When using Putty the serial port would show up as COM3 and the USB access is via an I.P. address. Feb 27 00:23:54 Right or you can type in 192.168.7.2. Feb 27 00:24:09 It would be whatever com port you have it connected. Feb 27 00:24:37 Well in my case it's 192.168.137.2 because I have Internet sharing. Feb 27 00:25:11 Oh. Feb 27 00:25:12 Okay. Feb 27 00:25:24 The COM port number is assigned when you plus in the USB to serial adapter. Feb 27 00:26:01 Right but you have to make sure you are typing in the COM/serial part to PuTTY or whatever emulator you use. Feb 27 00:26:05 The COM port number is assigned when you plug in the USB to serial adapter. Drivers load automatically. Feb 27 00:26:12 Oh. Feb 27 00:26:15 Okay. Feb 27 00:26:25 I talk too much Feb 27 00:26:54 No issue w/ me. Feb 27 00:27:03 Enjoy! Feb 27 00:27:38 I am busy doing stuff and making my servers work while chatting it up on BBB related info. Feb 27 00:27:45 I'll push up a copy of my interfaces file in a minute so you can see it. Feb 27 00:28:03 Okay. KenUnix: What is your issue you are coming across? Feb 27 00:29:25 I just wanted to show you have I have Internet sharing on Windozs 10 and automatic Gateway & DNS. Feb 27 00:29:33 Oh. Okay. Feb 27 00:29:37 Sobeit. Feb 27 00:29:48 I will "chikity" check it out if necessary. Feb 27 00:32:11 Don't feel you have to look at it. It's here http://paste.debian.net/1132485/ Feb 27 00:34:45 Off to look. Feb 27 00:35:30 Hey. Feb 27 00:36:07 Do you not use connmanctl? connmanctl seems like an easy alternative. Feb 27 00:36:54 I did not know that iface stuff still worked. Feb 27 00:37:25 I think you only need that with WiFi? Feb 27 00:37:57 Oh. I got you. I thought you were trying to get wifi. Feb 27 00:38:37 Yea, comments, comments. Wat can I say. Feb 27 00:40:33 Hey. Oh. you are trying to set up wifi via the USB share connect or via the ttl to usb converter? Feb 27 00:40:42 Hum, WiFi on a BBB don't think so. Sooo with the BBWiFi you only loose Ethernet rite? Feb 27 00:41:47 No ttl to usb can't work it's a serial conection runnung at 115baud. Feb 27 00:42:17 No ttl to usb can't work it's a serial conection runnung at 115Kbaud. Feb 27 00:42:49 Can you say fast CRT terminal or fast TTY? Feb 27 00:43:00 Right. Feb 27 00:43:02 I would rather haveethernet than WiFi I'm not building mobile robots though Feb 27 00:43:18 Mobility bots is my niche for now! Feb 27 00:43:48 The BBWiFi only comes from one source, rite? Feb 27 00:44:33 GenTooMan, Do you do Internet sharing? Feb 27 00:45:23 BBBW has no ethernet connection. Feb 27 00:45:26 Right. Feb 27 00:46:00 Whereas the BBB is from multiple sources , rite? Feb 27 00:46:18 Well, if you connect a dongle for WiFi, yes. Feb 27 00:47:41 Then I would need a usb expander so I can use Flash drive & WiFi and what about compatable chipset. BBB USB is only 2.0. Feb 27 00:48:40 Good question. The debian link shows what is available for debian. You remember that link I showed the other day. I think the CU and not the CUS works. Feb 27 00:49:21 Oh. Feb 27 00:49:24 You mean... Feb 27 00:52:13 Hey. Do you need usb 3.0, 3.1, etc to USB 2.0? Feb 27 01:00:24 A usb expander will step down to the slowest denominator . I.E. A usb 3.0 or 3.1 device will only operate at usb 2.0 speeds. Regards to that WiFi adapter I only found one and that as in europe. Feb 27 01:04:29 Okay. Feb 27 01:05:32 The BBW looks funny with those antenna sticking out. One vendor I don't like it. Feb 27 01:06:57 Now if someone could recommend a known good wifi adapter for the BBB I am listening. Feb 27 01:06:59 Okay. Feb 27 01:07:29 Try adafruit or the debian linux page. Feb 27 01:07:31 Remember device drivers! Feb 27 01:08:01 Most of their BBB stuff discontinued Feb 27 01:08:08 Oh. Feb 27 01:08:34 But, it should work if you are getting a BBB w/ updated image. They probably carry over drivers for years and years. Feb 27 01:09:06 Hey. I got my three servers working! Feb 27 01:09:20 As I said the one device I found isn't around anymore. Any ideas? Feb 27 01:09:31 Oh... Feb 27 01:09:50 Did you search google, "Beaglebone Black USB dongles"? Feb 27 01:10:03 Hay set_ got any moon shine? Feb 27 01:10:10 I wish. Feb 27 01:10:30 I'll give it a try wait... Feb 27 01:11:22 Also, try Element14. Feb 27 01:14:15 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+black+wifi+dongle+usb&oq=beaglebone+black+wifi+dongle+usb&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.8575j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 <<< Try that. There are many. Now, I guess we just need to search each dongle for what driver is in it. Feb 27 01:18:00 https://www.balena.io/docs/reference/hardware/wifi-dongles/. There. Feb 27 01:29:21 Hello? Feb 27 01:32:26 https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#WIFI_Adapters is another source. Feb 27 02:09:55 Lost connection. Feb 27 02:14:08 Hey. Look here: https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#WIFI_Adapters. Feb 27 02:14:35 But, make sure the one you pick has a driver in the kernel you choose for your board. Feb 27 02:21:07 I just found one. Feb 27 02:21:48 I have my BBB plugged in via barrel jack and USB. Now, the dongle is attached. I will test now but first I will tell you what chipset is on my dongle. Feb 27 02:29:54 I have the CUS too. Feb 27 02:30:08 I have the 8188, though. Feb 27 02:31:26 It works. Feb 27 02:33:11 The first one in the list a ASUS USB-N13 802.11 has user feedback drops connections, skow, old. Feb 27 02:33:35 What model do you have? Feb 27 02:34:53 I have the RTL8188CUS. Feb 27 02:36:01 It did work. Feb 27 02:36:04 Let me try again. Feb 27 02:37:13 Well. I am sure there is something I am missing. It was working and showed my "services" under connmanctl and I connected. Feb 27 02:37:15 Now, I cannot. Feb 27 02:39:10 Says it only supports 2.4GHZ band not newer band. Feb 27 02:41:49 Oh. Feb 27 02:41:50 Okay. Feb 27 02:42:06 I typed iwconfig and tried w/ connmanctl. Feb 27 02:42:24 I am about to test it w/ ip link. Feb 27 02:43:30 comment re adapter: MANUFACTURER COMMENT: Due to an update to the RTL8188EUS chipset, Linux compatibility is diminished Feb 27 02:45:02 Other compliant : And I experienced connection via 2.4 ghz to have lower speeds than 5.0 ghz. However, even via 2.4 the speeds I'm getting with this adapter are 16-18 mb/s while another laptop right next to it using the same wifi connection but a different wifi adapter has 80 mb/s speeds. Feb 27 02:47:12 Another one: My original review sharply stated "Overheats and loses connection every 10 minutes. Trash."I would like to revise this review with the following information: The Windows 10 driver that is automatically installed when initially plugged in is flawed. It causes the unit to overheat and lose connection regularly Feb 27 02:47:27 I get it. Feb 27 02:47:41 I can probably add it if I cross-compile. Feb 27 02:47:46 Working??? Feb 27 02:48:09 Nope. It only works if I add the wifi connection when the ethernet cable is plugged in. Feb 27 02:49:27 Huh? Are you sure your connection isn't going via Ethernet. Whats your GW? route Feb 27 02:49:35 Right. Feb 27 02:49:43 I get a wlan0 connection when I set it up. Feb 27 02:50:13 What do you get if you do a route command? Feb 27 02:50:24 I used connmanctl instead of ip a, iwconfig, and ip link. But when I unplug my ethernet, I get no services available. Feb 27 02:50:30 Oh. Please hold. I just rebooted. Feb 27 02:51:45 I get destination | Gateway | Genmask | and some others. Feb 27 02:52:34 What's the GW address and the Iface? Feb 27 02:53:12 0.0.0.0 and usb1/0. Feb 27 02:53:55 Huh? There is no gateway? Feb 27 02:54:29 I guess not. I unplugged the ethernet and the wifi stopped working. Odd days. Feb 27 02:54:33 Do you see any Iface pointing to wlan? Feb 27 02:54:55 No. Let me check after I plug in ethernet again. Please hold. Feb 27 02:55:29 route is a nice old command to know Feb 27 02:56:47 Okay. So, I am fully powered and the ethernet is plugged in. Feb 27 02:57:40 And roue says? Feb 27 02:59:19 Destination = default && Gateway = 192.168.1.1 Feb 27 02:59:54 ifconfig is another useful command. Shows interfaces up/down packet count so you can see traffic. IP... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 27 02:59:58 2020