**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 02 02:59:57 2020 Mar 02 03:07:31 I saw part of the video. That guy has all his own hair still. Mar 02 03:07:32 Neat! Mar 02 03:08:06 Believe it or not, secure digital never crossed my mind when thinking of SD. Mar 02 03:08:46 I remember class 10, secure digital cards were supposed to be used for the BBBs. Mar 02 03:14:12 Is that the truth? Mar 02 03:16:00 I'm 71 still have all my hair and it's not gray Mar 02 03:17:06 >>> Fo sur <<< Mar 02 03:20:01 Odd. Mar 02 03:20:26 I am almost, almost 40 and I am completely bald like the eagles in the sky. Mar 02 03:20:41 I hate it but i am me. phew! Mar 02 03:27:39 Look out for a bald man at 5:00! Mar 02 03:29:51 Birds, fly away..... Eagles have excellent sight. Mar 02 03:30:21 Hey. KenUnix: You were right. .c files and not .cpp files like I said. Mar 02 03:30:26 Oops. Mar 02 03:30:33 I was blind to the fact. Mar 02 03:31:15 Eagles, fly away /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mar 02 03:31:49 PLaing with me EVO cards... Mar 02 03:32:15 Playing with my EVO cards... Mar 02 03:32:18 Got it. Mar 02 03:32:20 Okay. Mar 02 03:33:22 I have this case for them. stops static, water proof, nice. but no to write... Mar 02 03:33:39 I have this case for them. stops static, water proof, nice. but no where to write... Mar 02 03:34:30 >>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SB4YMSC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Mar 02 03:35:24 OOh, two cases 1 for images and 1 for backups Mar 02 04:07:07 Dang. I think my port 8080 is taken up on the BBGW. Mar 02 04:07:26 I need to recompile w/ another port in the source. Mar 02 04:22:43 set_ Oh, I tried formatting usb 1tb drive but after 95gb BBB got sick. maybe need powered usb hub? Mar 02 04:24:38 I got dropped. Mar 02 04:27:34 No. Mar 02 04:27:43 It can only handle 32GB, I think. Mar 02 04:28:46 Me thinks it may be a power thing. these are old 2 /12" seagate drives from CT. got 3 of them Mar 02 04:29:35 After formatting for a while it chocked Mar 02 04:30:18 ok just playing Mar 02 04:31:02 Okay. Mar 02 04:31:26 KenUnix: Hey, do you know how to make the mjpg-streamer work on the BBB? Mar 02 04:35:10 no, never had a desire yet. Mar 02 04:35:19 Okay. Mar 02 04:37:11 oh crap it's 23:36 be-whitching hour. Mar 02 04:37:23 Okay, bug you later. Mar 02 04:37:26 I mean, see you later. Mar 02 04:37:42 no bug just tired Mar 02 04:38:07 Yep. Tomorrow is Mon. Mar 02 04:38:10 March 2nd! Mar 02 04:38:47 we'll pick this up tomorrow ok? march - march troops fall out. Mar 02 04:38:55 Okay. Later for now. Mar 02 07:43:30 Hi all, I am trying to get rs485 working on the board on uart1, I have managed to get receive working but transmission is failing. Has anyone faced similar issue ? Mar 02 09:05:16 Hello Is anyone know where can I find 3 PIN Serial Debug Cable for AI Mar 02 10:04:21 Alpaslan: something like the TTL-232R-RPi ? Mar 02 10:04:31 (from FTDI) Mar 02 10:17:10 Alpaslan: also, if you have a TTL-232R-3V3 (the cable used for the BBB), it's possible to remove individual wires from the connector shell (if you raise the black tab with a small screwdriver or other suitably pointy object): https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHvLMF9sDm3kyEfp7 Mar 02 10:17:56 oh crap Mar 02 10:18:07 never mind, I see now the TTL-232R-RPi isn't going to fit Mar 02 10:19:19 yuck, I'm not sure if a serial cable exists for this or whether you'd need to make one yourself Mar 02 10:20:10 set: your define is somehow missing... maybe it is inside a #if? Mar 02 10:20:29 jkridner[m]: it would be nice to clarify in the BBAI system reference manual whether a serial cable exists for it, and if not what connector that is exactly Mar 02 10:28:08 I try to get plastic case off and put cable in FTDI Rpi cable. however it is not possible Mar 02 10:28:36 O think I need to order zhr-3 connector for that. Mar 02 10:28:40 yeah I thought it had a normal 1mm pitch header, I forgot it had a weird small boxed header Mar 02 12:33:30 zmatt that connector has one advantage you can't plug it in backwards. Mar 02 13:08:51 they likely choose that connector due to lacking a place for something more conventional, at least they didn't use a stereo plug. Mar 02 16:11:22 a stereo plug requires more space than any header :P Mar 02 16:19:55 I try to make a joke... well I found that was used more than a few times on equipment and it was definitely a bit annoying to work with. Mar 02 16:20:05 yeah I know Mar 02 18:38:53 hi Mar 02 18:38:55 I've some U-boot issues U-Boot 2013.04 (Dec 12 2014 - 15:18:17) build., my bb black rev c doesn't boot. It's an old board I've not used since 4 years ago Mar 02 18:39:20 using the button shows in terminal a loop of CCC.. but can't boot from microSD card or emmc Mar 02 18:57:03 help? Mar 02 19:09:18 hi Mar 02 19:39:07 IRC-Source_86: are you sure the sd card is bootable? Mar 02 19:39:39 do you mean fdisk market first partition vfat as bootable? yes Mar 02 19:39:46 no Mar 02 19:39:50 I've used 3 microSD cards Mar 02 19:40:19 the official beagleboard.org images haven't used a fat boot partition for many many years Mar 02 19:40:45 my u-boot version is U-Boot 2013.04 (Dec 12 2014 - 15:18:17) Mar 02 19:41:00 if you get a recent image and write it to sd card, the bbb should be able to boot from it if you power it on with the S2 button held down Mar 02 19:41:03 how should I partition my microSD card then? Mar 02 19:41:06 you shouldn't Mar 02 19:41:18 you just write the image directly to sd card Mar 02 19:41:33 use https://www.balena.io/etcher/ to make the process easy Mar 02 19:41:59 (not a requirement, but it takes care of doing things right) Mar 02 19:42:04 thanks Mar 02 19:44:38 my recommendation would be to get the latest IoT image from https://beagleboard.org/latest-images and then once you've booted from it, uncomment the last line of /boot/uEnv.txt (cmdline=init=/..yadayada../init-eMMC-flasher-v3.sh) and reboot to have it reflash eMMC Mar 02 19:46:02 it will update u-boot version after installation? Mar 02 19:46:17 Debian 9.5 2018-10-07 4GB eMMC IoT Flasher is this the right one? Mar 02 19:46:20 yes it'll completely wipe and reflash eMMC, including u-boot Mar 02 19:46:30 yep, if you're sure you have a rev C Mar 02 19:46:36 wait no Mar 02 19:46:40 how can I check it? Mar 02 19:46:41 that's an old one Mar 02 19:47:02 I've complained about this a number of times already, but the flasher image on the site is outdated, just get the regular one Mar 02 19:47:25 Debian 9.9 2019-08-03 4GB SD IoT Mar 02 19:47:28 Debian 9.9 2019-08-03 4GB SD IoT Mar 02 19:47:31 yeah Mar 02 19:48:02 thanks, downloading the image and will try it now Mar 02 19:48:54 once you've booted from sd card, you can run sudo /opt/scripts/tools/version.sh to check board revision (among many other things) Mar 02 19:49:13 I've to boot pushing the button right? Mar 02 19:49:40 powering on with the S2 button held down will bypass the bootloader on eMMC, which may be necessary given how ancient yours is Mar 02 19:50:31 do I have to edit the uEnv file as mentioned previously? Mar 02 19:50:55 that step is to turn the sd card into a flasher Mar 02 19:50:58 before booting the device, on my laptop and later that Mar 02 19:51:10 I'd suggest first just booting from it Mar 02 19:51:19 so you can check your board revision Mar 02 19:51:29 gotcha Mar 02 19:52:27 do you recommend some distribution? I would like to run just dns and local http server Mar 02 19:53:28 alternatively you can also determine whether the eMMC is an old 2GB one (rather than a 4GB one) by inspecting it directly. the 2GB one will have the micron logo and BGA marking "JW896": https://photos.app.goo.gl/iFpxtrs4pMCgmd427 Mar 02 19:53:58 I recommend using debian. for the usage you're describing the console image may be more appropriate Mar 02 19:54:19 It has the micron logo Mar 02 19:54:23 since it doesn't sound all the stuff on the IoT image is of any relevance to you Mar 02 19:54:42 okay, but BGA marking JW896 or JWA06 ? Mar 02 19:55:20 JWA06 Mar 02 19:55:28 that's 4GB, i.e. rev C Mar 02 19:56:03 if you want a console image (i.e. fairly minimal debian system), you can find it here: https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Buster_Console_Snapshot Mar 02 19:56:30 thanks Mar 02 20:08:01 zmatt thanks it booted, that's more than enough Mar 02 20:08:30 I wish you an awesome week! Mar 02 20:09:57 people like you helping others makes a better world. I appreciate you took your personal time to reply me and help to fix it Mar 02 20:10:02 :) Mar 02 20:22:05 Anybody here? Mar 02 20:25:07 just you and 139 bots Mar 02 20:25:22 Loaded Debian 9.12 but dns service not working. Getting ping: www.google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution Mar 02 20:25:43 Hi Z Mar 02 20:26:39 Added line to interfaces but still no go. Mar 02 20:27:20 dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 Mar 02 20:27:27 normally that would be configured right for you when using dhcp, presumably when using manual configuration you'll need to manually configure this as well, but I don't really know much about connman regarding how/where to configure this Mar 02 20:28:27 Sitting behind a windoze machine will dhcp work? Mar 02 20:29:00 it should yes, otherwise internet sharing would be fairly useless Mar 02 20:29:47 OK. I have to change it in both windoze and firewall and BBB? Mar 02 20:29:53 not sure what's involved in reconfiguring the usb networking on the default image though, especially since I think it's not quite managed by connman but also partially fiddled with scripts Mar 02 20:30:07 I wouldn't expect you'd need to do anything on windows other than enable internet sharing Mar 02 20:30:56 but maybe windows firewall is dumb enough to get in the way... it would be moronic if so, but that doesn't exclude the possibility :P Mar 02 20:30:56 Sharing is fine. I can ping 8.8.8.8, etc. DNS is not working www.google.com Mar 02 20:31:40 I mean, you can try manually messing with /etc/resolv.conf but almost certainly its contents is being maintained by something else, and that something else will overwrite your manual stuff Mar 02 20:32:00 hold. Mar 02 20:32:03 generally speaking, fighting with a network manager is a fight you'd lose Mar 02 20:33:14 what I do on beaglebones is get rid of both existing network managers (for some reason two are enabled on the default images: connman and ifupdown) as well as the boot script that deals with usb networking, and I setup/enable systemd-networkd instead Mar 02 20:34:38 In 9.12 /etc/resolv.conf is now a link resolv.conf -> /run/connman/resolv.conf Mar 02 20:34:59 i.e. it's managed by connman, which is what I expected Mar 02 20:35:52 When installed 9.12 /connman/resolv.conf did not exist Mar 02 20:36:08 (similar to how it's a symlink to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf on my beaglebones since I use systemd-resolved) Mar 02 20:36:09 Link to nowhere? Mar 02 20:36:27 it should be created by connman Mar 02 20:37:07 OK. Clean out interfaces , reboot, then what? Mar 02 20:37:18 dunno, I don't use connman :) Mar 02 20:38:24 I tried 10.02 last night. was buggy and a couple files gone. >.< Mar 02 20:38:50 I've been on buster for quite a while now Mar 02 20:40:08 See my concern 9.5 & 9.9 ok. what about futcher. will have to deal with it?D: Mar 02 20:40:30 what about what? Mar 02 20:41:26 Moving forward eventually Debain 9 will go away?=L Mar 02 20:42:16 obviously, eventually. given that it's still the current stable release for beagleboard.org it obviously won't go away soon Mar 02 20:43:02 So, which version knowing this what version would you use? Mar 02 20:44:42 Is there any easy way to determine point release? =$ Mar 02 20:44:58 I already said I've been using buster (10) for quite a while. but my systems don't really resemble beagleboard.org images anymore, so I'm not sure this is a very useful thing to ask Mar 02 20:45:51 Can I determine point release? Mar 02 20:46:37 no idea, I have trouble imagining how those are defined given that there's nothing involved in upgrading across those other than simply upgrading packages within the same major release Mar 02 20:47:02 brb Mar 02 20:47:46 I mean the eMMc image says Debian 9.x but later after install there should be a way o find out. Mar 02 20:49:31 I have also learned to do mods to SD image before BBB install by adding files, editing uEnv.txt and the like. Mar 02 20:51:16 in /etc/*release* it only shows major eease Mar 02 20:55:16 I think will try and go back to Debian 9.9 Mar 02 21:04:05 why exactly? I have trouble imagining what sort of problem you have that could be caused by having more recent debian packages Mar 02 21:05:12 It's OK I'll go back to 9.9 Mar 02 21:05:33 because? Mar 02 21:05:51 Well I have to go to something Mar 02 21:06:05 I'm guessing you actually mean an older image? but in that case you should identify them by date (as given by /etc/dogtag) Mar 02 21:07:14 where'd you even get a 9.12 image? the latest released image is 9.9 and the latest testing image is 9.11 Mar 02 21:07:48 It's flashing now. Image i'm loading is bone-debian-9.9-iot-armhf-2019-08-03-4gb Mar 02 21:08:24 Fro rcn-ee.com Mar 02 21:09:50 your point release should be in /etc/debian_version btw Mar 02 21:11:10 i.e. you just downloaded some random snapshot that's not even listed on the wiki as testing image? Mar 02 21:11:48 you still haven't explained what problem you're having that warrants a reflash though Mar 02 21:12:04 keep in mind that simply doing an apt upgrade would put you at 9.12 again Mar 02 21:13:29 That's what I'm hoping for. Mar 02 21:14:01 ??? Mar 02 21:14:44 Going back to 9.9 then sudo update & upgrade Mar 02 21:15:00 but why? Mar 02 21:15:19 Why what? Mar 02 21:15:39 do that? Mar 02 21:16:15 22:11 <@zmatt> you still haven't explained what problem you're having that warrants a reflash though Mar 02 21:16:24 10.2 was a bust, 9.12 was buggy. so it;s 9.5 Mar 02 21:16:38 define "buggy" Mar 02 21:16:52 10.2 was a bust, 9.12 was buggy. so it;s 9.9 Mar 02 21:17:56 file /etc/debian_version says 9.9 Mar 02 21:18:30 and like I said, I'm assuming you're actually talking about images rather than debian versions, so please use image dates (as shown in the download url and in /etc/dogtag) instead of debian releases Mar 02 21:19:47 ok, wait. it's rebooting on 9.9 Mar 02 21:24:41 dogtag says BeagleBoard.org Debian Image 2019-08-03 Mar 02 21:27:05 All is working again. ping ip, name ok. gonna try update&upgrade got 1.2GB free Mar 02 21:45:12 wait you did the downgrade for reasons related to networking? it seems improbable to me that the image version is relevant for that, it more sounded like a configuration issue (more precisely, one caused by using multiple conflicting methods of network management) Mar 02 21:59:42 how can the ARM instruction "MSR SPSR_cxsf, #0x13" work when cxsf refers to 32 bits of data? Mar 02 21:59:55 the immediate value is only encoded in 12 bits.. Mar 02 22:00:11 (via IDA) Mar 02 22:01:48 update&upgrade finished ok. 990MB left. Do I need bb-beaglebone-io-installer bb-johnny-five-installer Mar 02 22:02:12 yates: I don't see the problem? as usual immediate operands have some restrictions on it, but they're still 32-bit values Mar 02 22:03:30 yates: it is a bit of an oddball instruction to encounter... it only exists in the ARM instruction set, there's no Thumb2 encoding for it Mar 02 22:06:43 KenUnix: No. Mar 02 22:07:22 apt autoremove Mar 02 22:08:37 yates: I'm guessing this is code for ARM architecture v5 or older? Mar 02 22:09:55 eh, I guess it might be okay in v7 too Mar 02 22:12:39 OK. I fired up vsftpd before changing temppwd now vsftp client is using temppwd instead of correct one. Is thses a way on BBB to set vsfpd password?? Ho set_ Mar 02 22:13:09 passwd Mar 02 22:13:13 Oh. Mar 02 22:13:26 I do not know vsfpd. Mar 02 22:13:31 Uh, Hi set_ Mar 02 22:13:45 I just got my /dev/video0 running on the BBGW! Mar 02 22:14:03 w/ mjpg-streamer-experimental. Mar 02 22:14:10 neat. Mar 02 22:14:17 Anyway. Have fun! Mar 02 22:14:47 Wow! film clips flashing :') Mar 02 22:15:44 Yep. Mar 02 22:16:23 I have an inapropriate ioctl for my device (25). Whatever that means. Off to check. Mar 02 22:19:56 * GenTooMan walks into his glass house and starts throwing rocks, because he likes the sound of breaking glass. Mar 02 22:21:36 KenUnix for moving files to and from your BeagleBoard if it has SSH I recommend using FileZilla, it will allow you to move large numbers of files and directories to and from the device. Mar 02 22:24:06 GenTooMan: Hello. Mar 02 22:24:22 Does filezilla need vsftpd? Mar 02 22:24:31 I see the glasshouse analogy. Nice. Mar 02 22:25:34 no it has a builtin sftp client the only thing you need worry about is SSH support on the target (beagle board X) Mar 02 22:25:56 whatever version of the board you have that is. Mar 02 22:26:12 I use winscp and it has sftp. Mar 02 22:26:59 I heard filezilla is a good tool. Mar 02 22:27:36 Filezilla has a major redeeming quality in that it's the same on every platform. IE it works the same on windows linux and the mac Mar 02 22:28:20 Hi all, noob here trying to feed temp sensor data to Thingspeak channel via wifi on beagleone black wifi board. I have updated the board and connected it to wifi. I have setup thingspeak channel. As this is my first every project of this type, it is not clear to me how to publish the data on the board to thingspeak channel via wifi or any com port Mar 02 22:28:21 for that matter. I am not having an easy time finding resources and was wondering you anyone can point me to some instructionals they think might help me? Mar 02 22:32:30 Hello. Mar 02 22:32:47 Is thinkspeak free still? Mar 02 22:32:53 sorry. Thingspeak. Mar 02 22:33:21 Well, you may need a server via a .service file on your BBBW. Mar 02 22:33:28 That helps. Mar 02 22:33:49 You can always use a microservice like flask or another if wanted. Mar 02 22:34:43 Hi, yes it appears to be so far. The data publishing rate varies based on whether one pays for the service or not. Okay so i need to setup a server on the beagle bone it sounds like? Is that what the .service file would be? Mar 02 22:34:58 Sort of. Mar 02 22:35:15 the .service file is for starting on boot w/out having to run a command. Mar 02 22:35:32 I used to use thingspeak years ago. Mar 02 22:36:06 I never quite figured out what they were offering but I found many ideas in books, i.e. circa '17. Mar 02 22:36:13 Let me go and see if I can find it. Mar 02 22:37:17 the free suite is super basic. I thought I would do something to the effect of push data from the board to the write api on thingspeak but idk how to push data from the board to the web :) Mar 02 22:38:45 free thingspeak suite* Mar 02 22:38:57 Charles A. Hamilton on Packtpub.com has a book called, "BeagleBone Black Cookbook." Mar 02 22:39:03 Please hold. Mar 02 22:39:08 I will get some answers for you. Mar 02 22:39:13 ty Mar 02 22:39:32 Let me try FileZilla. I'll be back ;D Mar 02 22:40:02 p. 277 of that book starts out w/ a Thingspeak example. He pushes data to the "cloud" w/ an IoT project on Thingspeak. Mar 02 22:40:04 ... Mar 02 22:40:10 So, where are you in your quest? Mar 02 22:40:16 Do you have the sensor in mind? Mar 02 22:40:27 KenUnix good fortune :D Mar 02 22:41:45 I will actually be using a potentiometer to simulate temp sensor data. That book will definitely be helpful, I will find and use it thank you. Currently I have the board booted and connected to wifi, and everything setup on the thingspeak platform Mar 02 22:42:31 https://github.com/HudsonWerks/tmp36-sensor-thingspeak is a start! Mar 02 22:43:01 Use that source to promote it. I can help but I need to review that source for a bit. Mar 02 22:43:27 I have the code for reading from the potentiometer and need to format my codeword with crc for transmission to thingspeak. This is great thank you set_! .service sounds like it will make things easier to repeat when turning on the board too. Mar 02 22:44:51 go to /etc/systemd/system, says @zmatt, to set up your .service file. Mar 02 22:45:38 infiniteparadox: ? Mar 02 22:45:41 that source is nearly perfect Mar 02 22:45:45 Oh. Mar 02 22:45:55 You said you have source already? Mar 02 22:46:17 it uses the arduino library though, can arduino library be used on beagle bone? Mar 02 22:46:22 Sort of. Mar 02 22:46:30 I have the source for reading data from the potentiometer Mar 02 22:46:46 There is bonescript. Look at the bonescript library on .js file on that github link I posted. Mar 02 22:47:00 but did not have the source for sending the thingspeak, so this github has exactly that :) Mar 02 22:47:15 Right. Mar 02 22:47:18 Enjoy! Mar 02 22:47:41 The source has probably changed over the years since the API has changed. Mar 02 22:48:16 so, the .py file might not work nor the .js file from the github link. That book is from '15 and not '17, i.e. like I thought. Mar 02 22:48:28 So, that API he used was from five years ago. Mar 02 22:48:45 so grateful! this definitely gives me the direction i was looking for Mar 02 22:48:51 Nice. Mar 02 22:50:28 Now, that you mention it, I might try it too. Who knows? I may figure it out this time. Mar 02 22:51:12 I could not get past the specific ideas on setting up the account on the Thingspeak site w/ registration. Sounds silly. I was and still am! Mar 02 22:53:07 they may have streamlined things. Lots of good content on youtube and the like. This link is a nice channel setup walk through. Mar 02 22:53:08 https://www.mathworks.com/help/thingspeak/collect-data-in-a-new-channel.html Mar 02 22:53:38 Fixed winscp I deleted false entry and made a new one. woks now. 8) Mar 02 22:53:47 to class I go, thank you again for the help Mar 02 22:54:36 Have fun set_ :b Mar 02 22:57:09 Fun! Mar 02 22:57:40 * GenTooMan hands fun to set_. Mar 02 22:57:54 Thank you, sir. Silly fun of abundance! Mar 02 23:01:10 Oh yea. I forgot. Mathworks bought them out. Mar 02 23:02:35 Expensive man. Mar 02 23:04:08 That is what happened to Twillio and other "IoT" fanatics (like me). People, or small companies, get good at what they do, sell out to higher end "competitors," and then rake in cash. Mar 02 23:04:09 ... Mar 02 23:04:25 It is upsetting at times. I hope this does not happen to the bbb.io peoples. Mar 02 23:05:50 I also heard how TI is changing their infrastructure from the inside. Chip mfg. was never so difficult. Mar 02 23:08:15 You, you. Mar 02 23:14:42 have somebody tried to use kvm on bb-x15? Mar 02 23:18:25 github was bought by Microsoft. Mar 02 23:18:28 :D Mar 02 23:28:56 I have not used kvm on the x15. Maybe another person has used it. Please be patient and someone will hopefully answer. Mar 02 23:29:33 Money hungry. Microsoft has a lot of that to share. Sheesh. Mar 02 23:48:21 well someone once said "the love of material possessions above people is the root of evil" Mar 02 23:51:30 What about Madonna? Mar 02 23:51:44 Did she use a BBB is what I am asking. Mar 02 23:53:11 Madonna is old enough to be a grand mother easily, so probably not. Mar 02 23:53:24 What? Old people use BBBs too. Mar 02 23:53:32 You know, those people. Mar 02 23:53:54 Anybody tinker with the Libre Computer Board AML-S905X-CC. For fun I downloaded an O/S image but after burning it I could not open it to look at it. =( Mar 02 23:54:27 Yeah. However their are several things against that idea. 1 nothing she has done for a decade is remotely class to BBB type thing. :d Mar 02 23:54:44 KenUnix: No, not me, Mar 02 23:54:59 GenTooMan: You are right. She is not up to par on her skillset. Mar 02 23:55:15 On another note, did you hear? Mar 02 23:55:28 Even paragon software could not open it. Some strange format? Mar 02 23:55:42 Flava Flav got kicked out of Public Enemy. Yea boy! Mar 02 23:55:47 Ha. Mar 02 23:56:01 Sorry. Mar 02 23:56:43 Madonna Should have seen her live in her younger years. Very sexual. Mar 02 23:56:54 Too! Mar 02 23:57:24 Can you say 69'? Mar 02 23:58:16 On my .service file... Mar 02 23:58:29 [Intall] was listed as a descriptor. Mar 02 23:58:37 I could not figure out why it would not run. Mar 02 23:58:37 Ha. Mar 02 23:58:49 Silly, told you. Mar 02 23:59:47 It's a shame Libre Computer Board AML-S905X-CC has 2GB RAM and starts at $35 Mar 03 00:01:00 KenUnix: What is a Libre Computer board? Mar 03 00:01:23 Everybody has handles maybe I should change mine from KenUnix to ATTUnix keep prople guessing. Mar 03 00:02:09 my handle is set_. That is a 10-4 Roger, roger. Mar 03 00:02:20 See it here https://www.amazon.com/Libre-Computer-AML-S905X-CC-Potato-64-bit/ Mar 03 00:02:42 It showed a dog. Mar 03 00:03:00 Potato, the dog? Mar 03 00:03:12 kenunix madonna is 62 apparently Mar 03 00:03:26 I should have never said anything. Mar 03 00:03:45 Umm try: https://www.amazon.com/Libre-Computer-AML-S905X-CC-Potato-64-bit/dp/B074P6BNGZ/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3F1EG3QZ3RVV3&keywords=sbc+computer&qid=1583193797&sprefix=sbc+com%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-8 Mar 03 00:03:56 I am running to my corner now. Sorry for my time. Mar 03 00:05:44 Madonna's material girl is only a spring chicken. HaHa Mar 03 00:05:57 Finally. Mar 03 00:06:06 https://libre.computer/ Mar 03 00:06:46 LE Potato LOL Mar 03 00:07:06 Stop it! Mar 03 00:07:25 Only immediate problem I see is won't load headless. Mar 03 00:07:40 Stop the libre computer stuff, too! Just quit it. Mar 03 00:08:24 Ha don't mean to offend X-P Mar 03 00:08:41 It is not you, it is me. Mar 03 00:09:01 Huh? stop what Mar 03 00:09:11 Stop! Mar 03 00:09:18 well set_ the mind is a terrible thing Mar 03 00:09:30 OK. Nice weather today. LaLa Mar 03 00:09:35 <<<< going to take a breather. Mar 03 00:10:13 the SoC is an Amlogic S905X Ic and has a RPI type 40pin header. It looks to be a SetTop box IC for china Mar 03 00:10:19 Exit stage left Mar 03 00:10:35 That's a Rush ... song :D Mar 03 00:12:36 For fun there is also the Khadas VIM3 Basic Single Board Computer with LPDDR4 2+16GB EMMC AP6356S Wi-Fi, 2X2 MIMO with RSDB Mar 03 00:13:21 Lots of SBC choices Mar 03 00:14:05 Any other boards besides the BBB? Mar 03 00:16:16 Check out the Atomic Pi - High Speed SBC with Peripheral ICs Mar 03 00:16:33 Actual Intel Atom CPU Mar 03 00:28:49 Forget the Atom. It only an x86 processor Mar 03 01:24:41 well not completely x86 they made 64bit atoms as well. Mar 03 01:26:55 Well on its download site says x86 Mar 03 01:28:36 Hey! Mar 03 01:28:40 Stop it! Mar 03 01:29:34 Hey? Mar 03 01:29:37 Stop it? Mar 03 01:36:43 Okay, okay. I am sorry. Will you have me back? Mar 03 01:42:07 Forget it. I do not know why I even try. Mar 03 01:42:47 So, is anyone using matplotlib for anything exciting? Mar 03 01:43:00 w/ the BBB, of course? Mar 03 02:00:14 set_ for it's limited eMMc storage this little bugger seems to run circles around the others. The only way to increase storage is with a BBG or BBAI rite? Mar 03 02:01:25 BBAI has 16GB eMMC. Mar 03 02:01:45 I am drawing a fractal on my BBBW right now. I will upload a photo later. Mar 03 02:02:19 But a BBAI is like $160 bucks? Mar 03 02:02:42 I know or you can use a sd card. Mar 03 02:02:57 Fractals take forever to draw. Mar 03 02:03:17 try doing it on a 6502 Mar 03 02:04:03 Ha. Mar 03 02:04:03 But do you want to try up the SD slot? 6502 like a Motorola 6800 Mar 03 02:05:02 The BBBW just took 159.03 (something or others) to process and draw the fractal. Mar 03 02:05:03 If i'm not mistaken there was a single board computer years,years called the KIM-1 Mar 03 02:05:22 Not bad, I guess. Mar 03 02:05:40 Long gone Mar 03 02:06:13 But...the fractal is not displaying yet. Tk takes a while I guess when I am using a vncserver. Mar 03 02:06:44 Had a little LED display, keypad, TTY interface and a interface for a cassette to save data. Mar 03 02:07:35 Wopping 256 bytes ram Mar 03 02:08:14 break time while my fractal does its job. J-O-B! Mar 03 02:09:07 See it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIM-1 Mar 03 02:10:50 God if I kept the one I had they are worth $9,000 dollars now Mar 03 02:11:33 God if I kept the one I had they are worth $9,000 dollars now. From 1976 Mar 03 02:13:22 ds2: how long did it take w/ the 6502? Mar 03 02:14:20 The KIM had Ceramic chips. no plastic crap Mar 03 02:16:22 yea,yea get down and boogie Mar 03 02:16:40 am listening to Disco music Mar 03 02:17:11 My LEDs are going goofy on the BBBW. Mar 03 02:17:15 I hope things will end okay. Mar 03 02:18:05 Have a fire extinguisher handy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<8) Mar 03 02:18:12 8) Mar 03 02:19:03 https://aroberge.blogspot.com/2010/01/profiling-adventures-and-cython-setting.html is the post. Mar 03 02:19:14 I am on the first one. Mar 03 02:19:16 Mandel. Mar 03 02:19:39 My very first evaluation board was a Motorola 6800. fit in a cigar box. back in 197~ Mar 03 02:19:46 He says or she says that the photo takes two seconds on his/her computer. Mar 03 02:19:57 It is taking quite some time. Mar 03 02:21:56 I stopped it. Mar 03 02:22:02 I was getting antsy. Mar 03 02:23:02 I got lost. Where is it? Mar 03 02:23:51 Where is what? Mar 03 02:24:40 KenUnix: You were listening to disco, for why, I will never know, and chatting. Mar 03 02:24:43 Right? Mar 03 02:25:00 I was discussing fractal images w/ python. Mar 03 02:25:47 7 ms faster this time! Mar 03 02:26:03 But dang it, still no image. Mar 03 02:26:33 tk popped up, but the computation power on the BBBW must be stressed now. I have been running that tiny cpu vigorously. Mar 03 02:27:41 dare me to touch that chip? Mar 03 02:28:46 set_: couple of hours... this was an atari 8bit Mar 03 02:28:54