**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 08 03:01:09 2020 Mar 08 06:34:32 Hello everyone Mar 08 06:35:04 i am intrested in the project "Reference Design For A GPIO-based Parallel Bi-Directional Bus" Mar 08 06:35:19 i couldnot find the mentors in the list here Mar 08 09:45:12 deepankarmaithan: are you talking about gsoc? if so, the channel you're looking for is #beagle-gsoc I think Mar 08 12:22:09 m Mar 08 21:12:08 Hey KenUnix, are you here? Mar 08 21:19:43 I am asking b/c I might have something interesting for you. Mar 08 21:20:06 I got a plugable 250x zoom camera attached to my BBB. Mar 08 21:20:07 Boy! Mar 08 21:20:23 I can get online and view the feed but it only shows white. Mar 08 21:20:25 Dang! Mar 08 21:21:02 I guess I have to wait to use it as a computer (standalone) soon when the right micro HDMI cable comes in. Mar 08 21:27:22 It would be neat to set it up as a BBB device, though. Mar 08 21:36:54 Hey...bbl. Mar 08 22:06:34 does somebody know ssd's with 3.3V? Mar 08 22:06:45 I am trying to find one for my bb-x15 Mar 08 22:17:29 https://www.mouser.com/Embedded-Solutions/Memory-Data-Storage/Storage/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/_/N-9pk1g?P=1z0wtph Mar 08 22:17:33 That may help. Mar 08 22:20:54 I found some on micron too. TI.com has some examples, too. Mar 08 22:21:15 https://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-drives/usage/auto-industrial-ssd Mar 08 22:25:33 More specifically, https://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-drives/bus-interfaces/sata-ssds/part-catalog/mtfddat032sbd-1ah12it. Mar 08 22:26:07 It states that this specific ssd has 3.3v logic. Mar 08 22:27:53 Is this helful or do you need something else w/ another connection and different adapter? Mar 08 22:30:18 What TPS is on the x15? Mar 08 22:31:36 set_: what is TPS? Mar 08 22:32:00 Sorry. I just found it. It is actually a PS. Mar 08 22:32:05 PMIC. Mar 08 22:33:15 I wanted to connect SSD and make some kind of a home server Mar 08 22:33:35 http://www.ti.com/solution/solid-state-drive-ssd-enterprise?DCMP=ph&HQS=tlead-power-dcdc-pwr-alps-bcs-pwrhouse-20150129-ssde-lp-en. Mar 08 22:33:55 That link is a ti.com link for SSD and a specific set up. Mar 08 22:34:26 "TPS" is the prefix TI uses for power-related ICs Mar 08 22:34:45 +embden[m]: I do not own a x15. Mar 08 22:35:08 @zmatt: Look here: https://elinux.org/images/e/ef/X15_Features.jpg. Mar 08 22:35:09 Oops. Mar 08 22:35:34 The PMIC states PS for some reason. Old link, I guess. Mar 08 22:37:54 https://www.ti.com/product/TPS659037 is what I found on the PMIC. Right? That is it, right? Mar 08 22:38:11 yeah the pmic on the x15 and ai is the tps659037 Mar 08 22:38:17 Oh. Okay. Mar 08 22:38:48 Well, it seems that I connects my ordinary ssd via sata-usb adapter, but can't via esata-sata... Mar 08 22:39:10 +embden[m]: I cannot afford to purchase this board for now. Maybe someone w/ hands on experience can suit your needs a bit better. Mar 08 22:39:11 OH. Mar 08 22:39:12 ... Mar 08 22:39:51 embden[m]: "does somebody know ssd's with 3.3V?" what did you even mean by that question? o.O Mar 08 22:40:56 zmatt: I mean that I wasn't able to find 2.5 ssd's running on 3.3V Mar 08 22:41:32 and bb-x15 provides this voltage on its esata Mar 08 22:41:34 why would you want to power it from 3.3V ? Mar 08 22:41:40 eh, no Mar 08 22:46:41 eSATA by itself doesn't carry any power, an eSATAp (aka eSATA/USB combo) port like the bbx15 has provides 5V power like any other usb port Mar 08 22:47:33 zmatt: really? Mar 08 22:48:33 hm, right... Mar 08 22:49:48 some eSATA ports additionally have 12V power, but this is an extension on top of eSATAp Mar 08 22:50:19 * embden[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot at 2020-03-08 23-49-52.png (202KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/mrQYdBSrHGCSynOvyLWIECOU > Mar 08 22:50:21 I am a bit confused Mar 08 22:50:38 Does anybody know what BeagleBoard's lifespan management and obsoleting policies are? Mar 08 22:51:08 embden[m]: whoever wrote that paragraph was really confused Mar 08 22:52:15 zmatt: I can see later that they say that they have 5V voltage from usb Mar 08 22:53:32 Nerdx86: they tend to be supported for a long time. even the old beagleboard-xm is still readily available for purchase and software is being maintained Mar 08 22:56:24 embden[m]: I do wonder why they didn't use an eSATA connector with 12V, given that 12V is available on the bbx15 Mar 08 22:58:14 embden[m]: it seems the 2.5" vs 3.5" distinction is because the former tend to be drives for laptops, which typically don't have 12V available, while 3.5" drives are for desktops/servers which do have 12V available Mar 08 22:58:54 oh, the eSATA connector with 12V power is patented Mar 08 22:59:51 I bought an ssd, it's 5V..but it has 1.7A consumption Mar 08 23:00:28 My old 2.5 hdd all had less than 0.8 Mar 08 23:05:34 the 5V on the eSATA is current-limited to 0.88 A (nom) Mar 08 23:06:37 Hey all! Mar 08 23:09:17 embden[m]: usb1 and usb2 are limited to 2.2 A each, usb3 and usb4 are limtied to 0.88 A each... which is a bit funky since the two usb3 host connectors stacked on top of each other are usb2 and usb3 and I have no idea which is which Mar 08 23:09:18 zmatt, all is well mini usb hub, wifi adapter, usb flash drives. nice powered usb hub off loads power from BBB. Causing perfect wifi adapter operation. Mar 08 23:11:14 zmatt, I was trying other wifi adapter but connmanctl freaked out. Could not connect. Got connection refused message?? Mar 08 23:12:40 Is there a way to wipe out connmanctl settings and start over? Mar 08 23:17:39 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/connman/connman.git/tree/README Mar 08 23:18:04 KenUnix: There is a disable. Maybe disable it and then start it again? Mar 08 23:18:07 I can try. Mar 08 23:19:20 set_: that readme has no information on how to use it, this is just about compiling it Mar 08 23:19:29 Oh. Dang. Mar 08 23:19:29 KenUnix: no idea since I don't use connman Mar 08 23:19:40 Let me go and find something else. Mar 08 23:19:45 KenUnix: have you tried just rebooting? Mar 08 23:21:42 https://www.embedded-computing.com/articles/the-connman is something I found. Maybe clear your cache. Mar 08 23:21:50 i.e. DNS cache. Mar 08 23:21:59 this isn't about dns Mar 08 23:23:14 I know. Mar 08 23:23:23 I found that this might help too. Mar 08 23:24:02 hm, so I can take power from one of the usbs Mar 08 23:24:55 embden[m]: or if you're adventurous with a soldering iron, replace the resistor that configures the current limit for usb3/usb4 ;) Mar 08 23:28:30 though I'm having trouble locating it.. I see the usb power switches (U29 and U30), I would have assumed the current limiting resistors (R293 and R298) would be right next to them... Mar 08 23:32:03 ah, found 'em on the top side Mar 08 23:33:02 Hey KenUnix: For when you come back, look here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=805797. Mar 08 23:34:00 set_: that's not useful, at all Mar 08 23:34:05 this isn't about dns Mar 08 23:34:25 also, it's not useful to say "for when you come back" when he's not here Mar 08 23:34:41 (as in, not in the channel) Mar 08 23:38:21 Connection dropped... Mar 08 23:38:26 I tried that. I want it to forget about the wifi card so I can try a different one. Mar 08 23:39:54 Fine. Mar 08 23:40:55 KenUinx: can you share (via pastebin) what error you got exactly after typing what command? Mar 08 23:42:54 Can't now have original adapter plugged in and working Mar 08 23:43:57 I will try it but it will take a bit of time Mar 08 23:45:54 Have you guys seen this site :https://debian.beagleboard.org/images/ All kinds of immages BBB BBAI BBG BBX15 BBXM ckeck out the rcn-ee.net folder Mar 08 23:46:37 Also loads for various projects Mar 08 23:47:14 I mean, that's just the directory in which the images are hosted Mar 08 23:47:46 the rcn-ee.net folder just seems to be an (outdated) mirror of rcn's testing images Mar 08 23:48:19 I don't really see anything interesting here Mar 08 23:48:37 KenUnix: I found an Ubuntu "cheatsheet" of ideas revolving around the connmanctl commands and connman in general. Mar 08 23:49:02 Look closer there are current images there also. ignore folder date Mar 08 23:50:18 set_ there is a techlab-workshop-2019-01-22.img and pru lab image Mar 08 23:51:35 Nice. Mar 08 23:51:52 Have link to cheat sheet? Mar 08 23:51:59 See here about connman and setting up w/ connmand.log and connmand. Mar 08 23:52:01 Yep. Mar 08 23:52:03 Please hold. Mar 08 23:52:24 http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/connmanctl.1.html Mar 08 23:52:41 Supposedly, there are log files about what is transpiring on the BBB about connman. Mar 08 23:52:52 Let me get my board booted again. Mar 08 23:54:36 zmatt, what could a "blank" IoT image be debian.beagleboard.org/images/BBBW-blank-debian-8.5-iot-armhf-2016-08-01-4?? Mar 08 23:54:56 that's what flashers used to be called, not entirely sure why Mar 08 23:57:59 set_ thanks for the link. Thanks zmatt. I'm off to try changing adapter.. And recording what it says. Mar 08 23:58:59 You are welcome. Mar 08 23:59:13 I will keep trying on my end to look over the log files to figure it out. Mar 09 00:01:28 So... Mar 09 00:02:19 KenUinx: cd /var/lib/connman && sudo nano settings Mar 09 00:02:41 manually editing the settings file sounds like a last-resort thing Mar 09 00:02:55 @zmatt: What would be a good method? Mar 09 00:03:01 zmatt, changed adapter stuck at first command connmanctl> scan wifiError /net/connman/technology/wifi: Device or resource busy Mar 09 00:04:26 Rebooting Mar 09 00:05:03 that's pretty vague, maybe check if there's anything useful in journal... try this: remove the adapter, open a new ssh connection and leave the command "journalctl -f" running, then plug in the wifi adapter and try the scan again Mar 09 00:05:36 ok yeah rebooting is probably the best thing to try first Mar 09 00:06:43 ok Mar 09 00:14:11 OK it's here : https://pastebin.com/je3NxSsv Mar 09 00:15:27 oh maybe you need to disable AP mode to use it in client mode Mar 09 00:15:41 some wifi adapters can do both at once, but not all Mar 09 00:16:15 command? Mar 09 00:16:50 try "tether wifi disable" Mar 09 00:17:04 in connmanctl Mar 09 00:18:16 Hey, I found a nice place, Debian, where connman can be better adapted for these boards. Mar 09 00:18:26 https://manpages.debian.org/testing/connman/connman-service.config.5.en.html Mar 09 00:19:16 set_: this isn't really useful Mar 09 00:19:25 except when you need really exotic wifi setups Mar 09 00:19:59 it keeps saying : [ 911.738670] rtlwifi: AP off, try to reconnect now Mar 09 00:20:35 "keeps saying" ? Mar 09 00:20:39 RTL8188CUS is my chip onboard my wifi adapter. KenUinx: What do you have on your adapter? Mar 09 00:22:32 The original adapter is RTL81888EUS other one is RTL8192?? zmatt yes, keeps printing about evey 5 seconds Mar 09 00:22:54 OH. Okay. Mar 09 00:23:14 KenUinx: ok, but does it work? Mar 09 00:23:15 set_ whats the link? Mar 09 00:25:03 Frst adapter that works RTL81888EUS non working one RTL8192 I think Mar 09 00:25:46 Yes. I was trying to test the other one Mar 09 00:28:21 Oh. Mar 09 00:28:55 the mainpages.debian/org/testing/connman/connman-service.config from above. Mar 09 00:29:00 That link from above. Mar 09 00:29:24 zmatt see here: https://pastebin.com/zagUNSiu Mar 09 00:29:51 supposedly, there is a file outside of /etc/networks/interface located here at main.conf, /etc/connman/ Mar 09 00:30:02 ... Mar 09 00:30:08 Just on news. North Korea has launched 3 missles!! Mar 09 00:30:27 KenUinx: try rebooting now that you've disabled AP mode, in case disabling AP mode somehow confused the driver Mar 09 00:31:01 OK. While do that see above log. Mar 09 00:31:15 I have not found the log file for connman yet. Mar 09 00:31:17 I did Mar 09 00:32:29 Oh. YOu are trying w/ ipv6. I am out. I know nothing about that idea. Mar 09 00:32:56 set_: he isn't trying to do anything specific with IPv6. IPv6 is enabled by default on all modern computers Mar 09 00:33:37 modern OSes I mean... well, more like not-ancient OSes Mar 09 00:34:51 KenUinx: but like I said, usb wifi sticks are kinda hit-and-miss on linux... having one working out of two sticks sounds like a decent score to me Mar 09 00:38:39 It's working. Strange IP address was 10.30.238.77 instead of 192.168 here. Also dns.google entries missing from route Mar 09 00:39:15 ? Mar 09 00:39:35 when connected to wifi it'll obviously get its IP address assigned via dhcp Mar 09 00:40:21 Assigned IP ifconfig was 10.30.238.77 but where in building it's 192.168.x.x could it be it's IPV6? Mar 09 00:40:33 ? Mar 09 00:41:31 Yesterday I Mar 09 00:41:37 IPv6 addresses do not resemble IPv4 addresses Mar 09 00:41:46 P assigned was 192.168.55.114 Mar 09 00:42:07 IP assigned yesterday was 192.168.55.114 Mar 09 00:42:12 on the same wifi network you're connected to right now? Mar 09 00:42:58 So it says. Although it see network from car dealer across the road Mar 09 00:43:56 what's the output from "ip route" ? Mar 09 00:47:58 rebooting will let you know.... Mar 09 00:54:10 Put original adapter back in now OK: 192.168.55.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.55.114 Mar 09 01:00:08 Nice! Mar 09 01:03:39 I got online via wifi and it kicked me. Boo! Mar 09 01:08:51 Hey! Mar 09 01:08:52 It works! Mar 09 01:09:10 BBB w/ WiFi adapter! Boy and nice... Mar 09 01:09:18 It is my first time. How about you? Mar 09 01:10:08 That wifi adapter is burning hot. Yikes! Mar 09 01:17:31 I say, I say, I say. How about you? Mar 09 01:19:42 Forget it. Do not fret. Mar 09 01:22:17 I actually tried once w/ Molloy's first book but to no avail. Mar 09 01:27:33 That fellow Mr. Rush was a reviewer of the book by Prabakar, "BeagleBone by Example." Mar 09 01:29:02 I am still working on "Bad to the Bone." I have not had much time to draw the schematics and circuits of that book to get the knowledge engulfing my every being. Mar 09 01:31:21 I have a question. I compiles a program on /mnt/sda1 but permission to execute. Executing /home/debian is ok? Mar 09 01:32:13 I have a question. I compiled a program on /mnt/sda1 but permission to execute denied. Executing /home/debian is ok? Mar 09 01:41:53 Hmm? Mar 09 01:42:01 oh. Mar 09 01:42:07 sudo make? Mar 09 01:47:51 I compiled a basic interpreter and can run it in my home directory but not from /mnt/sda1 Mar 09 01:50:50 This is an interpreter I updated 11/2019. Most good. runs on BBB, Ubuntu Linux, Mint 19.20 Mar 09 01:52:20 oh you are running your version of .net :D Mar 09 01:52:20 Very powerful arrays, functions, sub-routes, ASNI compliant. Want a copy? Mar 09 01:53:11 My next project is to get DEC Focal runnung. Mar 09 01:53:55 I don't know how to get bwbasic binary to you Mar 09 01:54:16 Not me. Mar 09 01:54:24 Maybe GenTooMan can help. Mar 09 01:55:04 I am not that skilled in compiling interpreters. Mar 09 01:55:08 GenTooMan, Got your ears on? Mar 09 01:55:17 Actually, I have zero experience in it. Mar 09 01:55:49 It's compiled I would send you executable binary Mar 09 01:56:05 No, I do not need it. What does it interpret? Mar 09 01:56:19 Your own source? Mar 09 01:56:50 The Basic programming language. U Mar 09 01:57:00 Oh. Mar 09 01:57:02 Basic. Mar 09 01:57:06 Okay. Nice. Mar 09 01:57:06 nmodified source in public domain Mar 09 01:57:11 Nice. Mar 09 01:57:36 So, you are trying to compile it in a .ko file? Mar 09 01:57:52 I am guessing. Mar 09 01:58:18 The downloadable version apt install is version 2.2. My updated version is 3.2A Mar 09 01:59:32 If not interested that's OK Mar 09 01:59:43 http://derekmolloy.ie/writing-a-linux-kernel-module-part-1-introduction/ has three modules on compiling one's own LKMs. Mar 09 02:00:01 It is a starter but I have not completed them. I am out, sort of. Mar 09 02:01:16 Starter? Plenny of sample scripts (basic programs). Can list any and modify Mar 09 02:01:41 Oh. Mar 09 02:02:10 Okay, I just thought you could figure it out on that hyperlink b/c he, that Molloy fellow, has attempted successfully (I suppose). Mar 09 02:02:41 So, let me get this right. Mar 09 02:04:06 You make your LKM or .deb or whatever, right. Then, you try to compile it during runtime or reboot into uboot to get to your "managing Linux" portal. Then, you bash into your newly booted system. Mar 09 02:04:19 Oh. No kernel odules Mar 09 02:04:29 There are a ton of particulars in b/t those three tasks. Mar 09 02:04:35 Oh. Mar 09 02:05:26 I do not get how you would go about compiling a basic program in your /mnt/sda1 dir. if you are... Mar 09 02:05:38 Blah. I do not how you are going about this idea. Mar 09 02:06:04 Please list your compilation steps and errors, sir. Mar 09 02:06:11 This is an executable like connmanctl, telnet, nano, vim, etc. Mar 09 02:06:17 Right. Okay. Mar 09 02:06:31 Do you have a github page? Mar 09 02:06:42 or git or whatever? Mar 09 02:07:29 Is working now. mofified /etc/fstab to allow 'exec'. Mar 09 02:07:36 Nice. Mar 09 02:15:39 I uploaded a sample guessing game it's at : http://paste.debian.net/1134064/ Mar 09 02:18:28 KenUinx: I am out. Later for now. Maybe we can pick back up later tomorrow or whenever. Boy! Mar 09 02:19:12 OK good night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 09 02:59:57 2020