**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 15 03:02:57 2020 Mar 15 03:46:58 https://pastebin.com/Q3HtBAuN is giving me issues. Mar 15 03:47:01 ... Mar 15 03:47:13 Does anyone know what I am doing incorrectly so far w/ my AI board? Mar 15 03:48:00 I cannot use apt update or apt upgrade and git pull does not work either. Mar 15 03:53:32 my /boot/uEnv.txt file seems empty too. Mar 15 03:53:47 Hmm. Maybe update/upgrade busted it senses? Mar 15 03:53:53 it = its Mar 15 04:17:55 It is almost like the machine, the AI, thought I was using SD instead of eMMC. Odd days. Mar 15 04:22:23 Bricked it! Mar 15 04:28:44 I'm not seeing any issues in your paste Mar 15 04:29:52 "cannot use" and 'does not work" are completely useless things to say. if you want help with something, be specific about the problem (preferably by sharing a paste that shows what you did and what response you got) Mar 15 04:30:26 Oh. Okay. Mar 15 04:30:43 Well, too late. The board bricked when I rebooted. I will add another image soon. Mar 15 04:31:11 I do not have the three pin debug cable yet. Mar 15 04:31:37 bricked just isn't what it used to be. Mar 15 04:32:06 I know. I rebooted and tried to allow for the flasher image to boot from the uEnv.txt file. Mar 15 04:35:02 ?? Mar 15 04:35:24 I was using the flasher image that came installed on the board when I got it. Mar 15 04:35:26 First... Mar 15 04:35:41 'flasher image" and "came installed" are mutually exclusive Mar 15 04:35:41 I updated and upgraded and used git pull. Mar 15 04:36:04 a flasher image is something you write to an sd card to make a flasher card, used to reflash emmc Mar 15 04:36:30 stop saying meaningless things. updated what? upgraded what? used git pull on what? Mar 15 04:36:40 Easy-peasey. Then, after the upgrade and installing the updated kernel, I rebooted and could not use apt upgrade, apt update, git pull. Mar 15 04:36:44 So, then... Mar 15 04:36:59 I went into the uEnv.txt file and uncommented the file that makes it a flasher image. Mar 15 04:37:02 It was commented. Mar 15 04:37:09 and thus you broke your system, clear Mar 15 04:37:14 Done! Mar 15 04:37:20 Now, time for a new image. Mar 15 04:37:40 you turned eMMC into a flasher that would reflash eMMC. I hope you see the problem there Mar 15 04:37:50 Nope. What should happen? Mar 15 04:37:56 Reflash right? Mar 15 04:38:03 step 1: erase eMMC Mar 15 04:38:20 step 2: try to copy files from eMMC to eMMC... oh wait Mar 15 04:38:25 What? Mar 15 04:38:33 that's what reflashing means Mar 15 04:38:46 Oh. yea. I get that part. Mar 15 04:39:00 I am about to install new image. I will try again. Mar 15 04:39:38 Just fyi, the board never rebooted and it had all LEDs solid. Mar 15 04:39:59 ? Mar 15 04:40:40 My last reboot...the board seemed like it was going to work but all LEDs were solid and it never booted. Mar 15 04:40:51 That is all. Mar 15 04:41:05 obviously Mar 15 04:41:12 Otay! Mar 15 04:41:13 I'm amazed it even gets that far Mar 15 04:41:49 I would have expected no leds at all (apart from the power led) Mar 15 04:43:02 Oh. At first, it was going into the "night-rider" matrix but then lit all solid. Mar 15 04:43:41 Anyway, the image is updating now on the board. Mar 15 04:43:54 I'm not sure why you're continuing to explain more details about your process of hosing your beaglebone when it's already perfectly clear what you did Mar 15 04:44:21 On a different note, I see there will be a couple or three releases of Debian per year now! Mar 15 04:44:22 Neat. Mar 15 04:44:56 You are always so angered by nothing. Calm down. breathe, man. It is all okay, ALL! Mar 15 04:45:11 Smiles Mar 15 04:45:32 I'm rarely angered. mildly annoyed maybe, not angered? nah Mar 15 04:45:55 Oh. Okay. I must read or interprete your way of typing incorrectly. My bad. Mar 15 04:46:18 dually noted. Mar 15 04:53:57 My computer is recognizing the BBAI but I cannot sign in. Mar 15 04:54:05 Maybe I should wait longer. Mar 15 04:54:29 define "cannot sign in" Mar 15 04:54:43 PuTTY. Mar 15 04:55:01 I cannot sign in b/c it keeps kicking me out of PuTTY saying timeout. Mar 15 04:55:28 yeah that sounds like it's probably not up yet Mar 15 04:55:34 Okay. Mar 15 04:56:29 (or you're trying to connect to the wrong thing, or something else is wrong) Mar 15 04:56:43 Oh. I type 192.168.7.2. Mar 15 04:57:06 I do not know my IP ADDR yet b/c I am not using WiFi just yet. Mar 15 04:57:25 I guess I could put in an Ethernet cable. Mar 15 04:58:48 Do you think I should "interrupt" the process of booting and push the Power Button and try an Ethernet cable? Mar 15 04:59:08 It has been about 25 to 30 minutes. Mar 15 05:00:20 ehm, how can it have been booting for 30 minutes when 15 minutes ago you were still reflashing the board Mar 15 05:00:34 It seems like it has been that long. Mar 15 05:00:38 It never takes this long. Mar 15 05:00:58 Usually, I am up and booted within 15 to 20 minutes. Mar 15 05:00:59 to clarify, reflashing itself was (seemingly) successful? Mar 15 05:01:10 No. Mar 15 05:01:35 ... then I don't understand what you're trying to say Mar 15 05:01:55 if you haven't reflashed the bbai yet then there's nothing to login to Mar 15 05:02:03 I reflashed the board but I cannot sign in for some reason. I mean, the LEDs are blinking and my computer recognizes the the BBAI but the board is refusing the connection. Mar 15 05:02:20 okay so you meant "Yes." Mar 15 05:02:28 I guess. Yes. Okay. Yes. Mar 15 05:03:33 you can try connecting ethernet and see if you can reach it that way. there's normally no reason to reboot it when doing so, just plug in ethernet Mar 15 05:03:52 Okay. Mar 15 05:03:55 Please hold. Mar 15 05:06:13 That worked. Nice. Mar 15 05:07:33 I wonder if the WiFi is busted. I need to test it. Mar 15 05:07:44 I will check it out. Mar 15 05:07:51 well you'll need to connect to your wifi network again obviously since you've reflashed Mar 15 05:08:44 Right. Mar 15 05:09:20 Oh. Mar 15 05:09:25 I booted a Buster image. Mar 15 05:09:29 Dang it. Mar 15 05:09:49 I think this is what happened. Mar 15 05:10:08 I was using Buster on my SD and Stretch on my eMMC. Mar 15 05:10:22 That could cause issues, I guess. Mar 15 05:11:39 Is there a way to write my SD contents to the eMMC and use the same SD Card for SD use on the same board? Mar 15 05:13:15 you mean turn a flasher back into a normal image? Mar 15 05:13:21 No. Mar 15 05:13:50 what do you mean by "use the same SD card for SD use" ? Mar 15 05:13:55 wtf is "SD use" Mar 15 05:13:59 I would turn the sd into a flasher. Then, use that same SD Card, which would be populated w/ a SD Card image, as the second system onboard. Mar 15 05:14:12 what do you mean by "second system" Mar 15 05:14:22 One on eMMC and one on SD Card? Mar 15 05:14:49 But... Mar 15 05:15:09 I would update both Debian OSs to mirror each other. Mar 15 05:15:14 okay so like I said, you mean that after flashing you want to turn the sd card back from a flasher into a normal sd card Mar 15 05:15:23 Right. Mar 15 05:15:35 yes that's pretty easy Mar 15 05:15:43 Flash another image on the SD? Mar 15 05:16:09 that would work too but would be a bit silly to reflash the whole sd card just to comment out one line in one file of it Mar 15 05:16:20 Oh. Right. Mar 15 05:16:45 Hmm. So, I would just boot from the SD again? Mar 15 05:17:05 no Mar 15 05:17:10 I know. I do not get it. Mar 15 05:17:13 that would reflash your eMMC again Mar 15 05:17:20 Right. Mar 15 05:17:24 I just understood. Mar 15 05:17:31 oh I just realized I don't know which mmcblk device is the SD card on a BBAI Mar 15 05:17:47 No issue. Mar 15 05:17:51 your bbai is booted from eMMC right now right? Mar 15 05:17:59 I will do it the old school way. Mar 15 05:18:02 No. Mar 15 05:18:05 SD Card. Mar 15 05:18:18 how can it be booted from sd card when you've turned that into a flasher? Mar 15 05:18:24 or have you not? Mar 15 05:18:30 I have not yet. Mar 15 05:18:46 then why did you say earlier you reflashed the board? Mar 15 05:18:56 I was researching my options. Mar 15 05:19:10 how is that related to correctly saying what you just did? Mar 15 05:19:10 Oh. My mistake. Sorry. I got you now. when I say board, it is not referring to SD Card. Mar 15 05:19:18 y'all make a great comedy act. :) Mar 15 05:19:23 Thank you! Mar 15 05:19:39 Board is eMMC and not SD Card. Got it. Mar 15 05:19:58 set_: what does findmnt / say? Mar 15 05:20:42 (specifically what SOURCE does it say your filesystem has?) Mar 15 05:21:01 This is what is says >>> / /dev/mmcblk0p1 ext4 rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro Mar 15 05:21:05 ok Mar 15 05:21:12 so it's same as on the BBB, convenient Mar 15 05:21:17 Nice! Mar 15 05:21:31 I am updating my kernel now. Mar 15 05:21:35 Done. Mar 15 05:22:54 That dang board is fast! Mar 15 05:23:08 set_: here's how to turn a flasher card back into a normal card after flashing: https://pastebin.com/E4HzzWFS Mar 15 05:23:17 I typed "sudo reboot" and bam, done. Mar 15 05:23:20 Okay. I am off to look. Mar 15 05:26:42 Okay. I am "flashing" the board now w/ the image. It should be done briefly. Mar 15 05:27:14 Man, I am already on the nightrider pattern. it happened before I could even type it out. Mar 15 05:27:42 I was going to ask, "Does the nightrider pattern show?" Mar 15 05:27:53 But...yep. Bam! Bam! Bam! Done. Mar 15 05:33:59 So, is it the header pins that are not to be hot-plugged only? Mar 15 05:37:05 Do I need to reboot? Mar 15 05:37:12 after sync? Mar 15 05:40:10 no Mar 15 05:40:21 you didn't do anything with the running system, just with the sd card Mar 15 05:40:31 Oh. Mar 15 05:40:32 Okay. Mar 15 05:40:42 after sync you can safely remove the sd card if you want to Mar 15 05:40:55 or you can reboot to the sd card to verify it works Mar 15 05:41:04 Okay. Mar 15 05:42:48 ti-tidl is not on Buster yet. Mar 15 05:43:00 Or maybe I just have an off file system. Mar 15 05:43:26 if you downloaded a testing image then if it doesn't have "tidl" in the image name, it doesn't have tidl Mar 15 05:43:37 Okay. Mar 15 05:43:52 looks like there's indeed no buster iot-tidl yet Mar 15 05:44:25 so the latest iot-tidl testing image would be https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Stretch_IOT_TIDL_Snapshot Mar 15 05:44:34 Okay. Mar 15 05:44:42 Well, hell Sydney. Mar 15 05:44:59 Oh well. No issue. Mar 15 05:47:07 I will test it out too. I have some ancient SD Cards that never failed me. I always hear in here how sometimes SD Cards have only so many writes. I read it too, i.e. on the mfg. sites. Mar 15 05:47:39 not "sometimes" Mar 15 05:47:52 Well, I mean this... Mar 15 05:48:02 They say 10,000 but it could be less or more. Mar 15 05:48:25 10,000 ? for a consumer SD card? that sounds highly optimistic Mar 15 05:48:32 I guess 10,000 writes is a good number that I may never conquer. Mar 15 05:49:18 @zmatt: I am having the same issue. Mar 15 05:49:27 Please hold. Mar 15 05:49:28 ? Mar 15 05:49:30 I will post it. Mar 15 05:50:17 https://pastebin.com/hUnvtbik Mar 15 05:50:38 This was my first issue, e.g. before the updating of the eMMC and the SD Card w/ Buster. Mar 15 05:51:25 looks like a network issue Mar 15 05:51:39 Right but I am hardwired in and it is working. Mar 15 05:51:58 does ping 8.8.8.8 work? (you can abort the command with control-C) Mar 15 05:52:07 what does ip route show? Mar 15 05:52:21 I just remembered I updated the bootloader on the eMMC. Mar 15 05:52:29 that's irrelevant for this Mar 15 05:52:35 besides, you just reflashed eMMC Mar 15 05:52:37 100% packet loss Mar 15 05:52:48 (reflashing also overwrites the bootloader) Mar 15 05:53:03 I have on my side a IP Addr and I am signed in w/ that IP Addr. Mar 15 05:53:12 Via PuTTY. Mar 15 05:53:17 that's not something I asked Mar 15 05:53:32 obviously you're logged in via putty, otherwise you wouldn't be able to run these commands Mar 15 05:54:03 linkdown Mar 15 05:54:10 06:52 <@zmatt> what does ip route show? Mar 15 05:54:45 https://pastebin.com/6as6QDAr Mar 15 05:55:24 ehhhh Mar 15 05:55:47 what about ip addr Mar 15 05:55:58 and cat /etc/resolv.conf Mar 15 05:56:00 It shows my IP addr at eth0. Mar 15 05:56:11 yeah that looks very wrong Mar 15 05:56:28 did you mess with the network configuration for ethernet? Mar 15 05:56:34 nameserver 192.168.1.1 Mar 15 05:56:35 No. Mar 15 05:57:15 ohh you enabled internet sharing on your PC or something? Mar 15 05:57:30 No clue. Mar 15 05:57:33 Maybe BlueTooth? Mar 15 05:57:38 06:55 <@zmatt> what about ip addr Mar 15 05:57:45 Please hold. Mar 15 05:58:08 it's clear from ip route that it indeed doesn't have internet access Mar 15 05:58:31 what I'm puzzled about is why it can resolve names even though it doesn't have internet access Mar 15 05:59:08 https://pastebin.com/6qUbDLDe Mar 15 06:01:01 so what is it connected to via ethernet exactly? does it plug into your pc directly, or your internet router? Mar 15 06:01:35 My router has an Ethernet cable plugged in to the BBAI. Mar 15 06:01:46 The router is plugged into a Modem. Mar 15 06:02:18 ... a separate modem and router? o.O Mar 15 06:02:27 Yea. yea. I know. Mar 15 06:02:49 okay so why does it not have a default gateway... hmm... Mar 15 06:02:57 can you try unplugging ethernet and plugging it back in Mar 15 06:03:02 Sure. Mar 15 06:03:13 and then (once you're back in) try "ip route" again Mar 15 06:04:24 Okay. Mar 15 06:06:12 https://pastebin.com/CaAVazem Mar 15 06:06:55 It could be an older model of a testing image. Mar 15 06:07:13 Maybe support stopped for it. Mar 15 06:09:59 I am going to get a new image. Done. Mar 15 06:11:36 huh wtf how did it get a default route to usb0 Mar 15 06:11:47 as a result of replugging ethernet Mar 15 06:11:50 that makes no sense Mar 15 06:11:54 I have no idea. Mar 15 06:12:05 New image, time? Mar 15 06:12:16 I should just start from scratch. Mar 15 06:12:33 Is a default route to usb0 good? Mar 15 06:12:42 generall speaking, no Mar 15 06:12:45 Dang. Mar 15 06:12:48 I might be bugged. Mar 15 06:13:01 the expectation was getting one to eth0 Mar 15 06:13:26 Right. I have eth0 and an Internet connection at 192.168.1.xx. Mar 15 06:13:40 this looks like either connman is confused or connman is fighting with whatever is managing the usb interfaces Mar 15 06:13:42 I am signed in via that connection. I must be missing something. Mar 15 06:13:49 Oh. Mar 15 06:13:50 Okay. Mar 15 06:13:57 via what connection? Mar 15 06:14:15 I am on an Ethernet connection and via USB to my computer. Mar 15 06:14:39 but are you connecting to 192.168.7.2 or 192.168.1.86 ? Mar 15 06:14:50 192.168.1.86 Mar 15 06:15:00 is 192.168.7.2 still unreachable? Mar 15 06:15:05 Let me check. Mar 15 06:15:23 Yep. Mar 15 06:15:48 Same issues w/ the 192.168.7.2. Mar 15 06:15:53 okay well something is fucked... dunno what since I don't use connman nor the usb networking (at least not as setup on the bbb) Mar 15 06:16:08 Okay. No issue. Mar 15 06:16:24 I will use a newer image and try it out. Mar 15 06:18:39 I am going to try out buster again. If all else fails, I am supporting the fallback to Stretch. Mar 15 06:23:21 That COVID-19 is not a joke. I even saw that there was a post on Twitter from beagleboard.org about a machine to test for viruses. Nice. Mar 15 06:25:01 Well, it might not test but it is from '14 they say. Mar 15 15:57:30 zmatt ?? Mar 15 15:59:02 Am looking at installing Linux on my new-used laptop. I think I will go with Ubuntu. Thoughts? Mar 15 15:59:56 Laptop has 17.3" display, 12GB ram , 2TB hard drive. Mar 15 15:59:56 does sound a bit off-topic ... ? Mar 15 16:00:49 Well here we discuss Debian alot. I thought about install Debian but there are limitations. Mar 15 16:02:40 Ubuntu is much easier to install VirtualBox then Debian. That is a requirement. I have been on here for a few months now. Mar 15 16:03:11 Thank you for the off-topic comment. Mar 15 16:17:13 I am trying to enable Cortex M4 on Beaglebone AI, not sure how to proceed with this? Does anyone have idea about this? Mar 15 16:41:41 Even I tried to install RTOS SDK on beaglebone. I created SD card with SDK installed. When inserted same SD card to Beaglebone AI, it didn't automatically boot from SD card to bring up RTOS SDK. Any help regarding this would be appreciated. Mar 15 16:51:29 Can I assume you used Etcher. What happened? Mar 15 17:23:44 I used create-sdcard.sh script from under SDK's bin folder to create SD card. SD card is ready with RTOS SDK. Mar 15 17:26:00 I am blocked with how to install RTOS SDK on beaglebone. Mar 15 18:32:46 Do a lsblk command Mar 15 18:36:45 Hello folks, I have BB AI loaded with latest debian image. I am trying enable IPU core on BBAI. Could anyone help with the process to enable and run FW on IPU core.? Mar 15 19:44:05 hi , can someone exolain how to import gerb files into KICAD ? Mar 15 19:44:21 i ment beaglebone ai files Mar 15 21:52:49 the conversion is being done by KiCAD developers Mar 15 22:33:05 zmatt: hi, I don't understand how to config ti-linux-kernel-dev kernel. I run build_deb.sh, it asks to configure the kernel, I apply my config file, but in the resulting file I can't see some options (CONFIG_KVM). Mar 16 00:12:59 +embden[m]: I think that is interesting. I hope someone answers soon. Mar 16 00:17:04 hm, I was able to build the kernel using make ....... bindeb-pkg Mar 16 00:17:53 hi! Mar 16 00:18:05 will try to run kvm tomorrow Mar 16 00:20:10 set_ Got my new-used laptop in. I'm deciding if I will keep Windoze or put Linux on it. Mar 16 00:25:45 Nice. Mar 16 00:25:51 Put both! Mar 16 00:25:55 Or double up! Mar 16 00:26:12 You can get good at both of the OSs. Mar 16 00:26:29 Well it's Windoze or Linux?? Cut the rope and move to Ubuntu. Mar 16 00:26:34 Speaking of...did anyone put Win on the BBB yet? Mar 16 00:26:50 hahaha Mar 16 00:27:07 KenUnix: I heard of someone once doing it but I never tried it. Mar 16 00:27:26 Many years ago on Hackster.io. AVNET! Mar 16 00:27:52 win CE use to be available for it. Mar 16 00:27:57 See. Mar 16 00:28:10 I thought something like that was available. Mar 16 00:28:27 CE = Computer Etiquette? Mar 16 00:28:44 but win CE is very expensive and I don't know if it even a product any more. CE=Compact Embeded. Mar 16 00:28:47 You notice I said Ubuntu. I have some issues with Debian on a main machine like running Oracle Virtualbox. Windows CE? But the BBB is a single core. Mar 16 00:28:52 Oh. Mar 16 00:29:31 It can run on a single core. I don't know if it's a product anymore however. Mar 16 00:30:01 Debian loaded as a main O/S is much more security of a pain. Mar 16 00:30:07 I looked it up a while back. I found something for ARM but it was 64-bit. Mar 16 00:30:55 set_,GenTooMan what are you running? Mar 16 00:31:14 Ubuntu is debian but with comercial support they use Debian repositories on the bleeding edge and tweak it to work. Mar 16 00:31:44 Debian. Mar 16 00:32:11 I run debian buster. It has it's issues for example rust can't be updated. you have to be very careful with python. At least KiCAD works well. Mar 16 00:32:11 Like Mint and Zorm are fluff Mar 16 00:32:35 Oh. On desktop? Mar 16 00:32:47 Right he is talking death top er desktop :D Mar 16 00:32:56 I use Win, Ubuntu, and Debian. Mar 16 00:33:04 Pack 'em in! Mar 16 00:33:17 I like to have options. Mar 16 00:33:18 Ha. Mar 16 00:33:34 Yes, you have to watch those other releases riding on anothers coat tails. Mar 16 00:33:44 One 1 machine Mar 16 00:34:09 Sort of...I have Ubuntu and Win on this one but I have Debian and Ubuntu on the wsl fix. Mar 16 00:34:23 What do you have grub as you boot loader Mar 16 00:34:39 It is 1 TB. And yep, grub2 I think. Mar 16 00:34:51 I need to check that. Mar 16 00:35:06 Ubuntu on WSL can be fun Mar 16 00:35:10 I have a funny site too. Mar 16 00:35:34 From a Linode. It is for a smear campaign but I enjoy the site. Mar 16 00:35:50 I have both Ubuntu & Debian on WSL Mar 16 00:36:12 KenUnix: Yep. wsl is neat. I have not gotten into it as much as I wanted w/ all this "made up issues" i keep coming up w/. Mar 16 00:36:18 Wonder how WSL2 is gonna break it Mar 16 00:36:26 Oh. I use wsl2. Mar 16 00:36:29 It works. Mar 16 00:36:50 I thought wsl2 was what win 10 offers. Mar 16 00:36:51 ? Mar 16 00:37:13 I need to check that too. Sheesh. Mar 16 00:37:25 Any better intrgration ?? I use an X-server to give me a dsok top Mar 16 00:37:41 dsok top? Mar 16 00:37:46 What? really? That is neat. I remember you typing that a while back. Mar 16 00:37:51 gui Desktop Mar 16 00:38:01 Hmm. I can try it I guess. Mar 16 00:38:34 oh ... I have done some fun things with moving output of X to a different display. That is a much better feature than Remote Desktop anyday. Mar 16 00:38:41 It's on SourgcForge net as a free install Mar 16 00:39:06 You can use xfce4 probably on Debian. Mar 16 00:39:29 yes if their is a package for it. Mar 16 00:39:36 Heavy but if you have a 500 MB use, xfce4 is the way to go for me. Mar 16 00:39:50 Yep. Debian has it. Mar 16 00:40:02 I will always remember it b/c of the rat. Mar 16 00:40:23 Couldn't get that to work. xfce on WSL ? Mar 16 00:40:32 Oh. I should try it right now. Mar 16 00:40:36 Please hold. Mar 16 00:41:17 WSL was the original then WSL1 now WSL2 Mar 16 00:41:33 It is only 347 MB on this one and I installed the xfce4-goodies too. Mar 16 00:41:39 lxde works fine but has limitations. Mar 16 00:42:20 I never got it to work for me for some reason. But you know me, clueless in Seattle. Mar 16 00:42:34 Really. X-server is old but works fine Mar 16 00:43:08 Hey guys, how would I use the Xserver on Debian w/ wsl? Mar 16 00:43:22 I never really put much thought into it. Mar 16 00:43:45 When setting up X-server you need to set display to -1 and have a small script that brings it up Mar 16 00:43:57 Oh. Hmm. Mar 16 00:43:59 Okay. Mar 16 00:44:11 wait Mar 16 00:44:25 I have set it up before w/ debian on ARM but not w/ amd64. Mar 16 00:47:06 https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce is something I came across. Mar 16 00:47:12 See script I wrote to fire it up under Debian or Ubuntu : https://pastebin.com/kR9PkkBu Mar 16 00:48:32 I always used a server instead of directly attaching the xfce4 to my current terminal. Mar 16 00:48:45 <<< a lot to learn Mar 16 00:50:38 Thanks for the Debian info. Now thats under WSL? Mar 16 00:52:00 My script when invoked goes to sleep while X is running. Mar 16 00:54:59 Hmm. Mar 16 00:55:31 KenUnix: What link? Oh. the debian link for the xfce4. Mar 16 00:55:49 Yea. That is some basics. There is more on the xfce4 site. Mar 16 00:56:10 Here that X server : https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ Mar 16 00:56:39 You say, "Now that under WSL?" I am installing xfce4 now w/ apt on my wsl instance of Debian. Mar 16 00:57:34 I will let you know exactly how to do it soon. I cannot figure it out on the BBB just yet. Mar 16 00:58:22 I use tightvncserver on my BBB w/ VNC Viewer and it populates on the instance OS (Debian). Mar 16 00:58:45 Slow...yes. Too heavy...yes. Knowing it works well...priceless. Mar 16 01:00:44 I tried tightvnc but all i get is a gray screen Mar 16 01:01:32 Yep. You have to alter some specific files for running xfce4 on boot or w/ a vncserver. Mar 16 01:01:32 screen not populated Mar 16 01:03:02 lxde is 790 MB. Mar 16 01:03:07 Yikes. Mar 16 01:03:09 I created tightvncserver.conf under /etc/.../.... and xstartup under .vnc Mar 16 01:03:34 add startxfce4 & to your xstartup file. Mar 16 01:03:41 Wherever. Mar 16 01:04:09 ok wait Mar 16 01:04:26 What? Mar 16 01:04:36 Oh. I understand now. Mar 16 01:04:37 Sorry. Mar 16 01:05:33 I was dealing w/ the new image and klipper on the RepliCape today. I do not have current Internet on my BBB. Mar 16 01:05:49 I was goofing up severely. Mar 16 01:08:39 I am plugged in. Mar 16 01:08:48 I will test to see my config. shortly. Mar 16 01:10:10 This is for the community: https://link.springer.com/search?facet-series=%225151%22&facet-content-type=%22Book%22. This is just in case someone wants to learn more. Mar 16 01:15:48 No go. beaglebone:1.log shows sh: 1: /home/debian/.vnc/xstartup: Permission denied Mar 16 01:16:12 Okay. I remember this issue. Please hold. I need to look up what I did to solve it. Mar 16 01:16:42 You should just have that file w/out permissions set up. Mar 16 01:16:46 Let me check Mar 16 01:17:59 I never installed tightvncserver on this board. Please hold. Mar 16 01:19:26 https://pastebin.com/8BmJ6Mzf is the set up along w/ what is installed by default. Mar 16 01:19:58 did you change the permissions of that file so far? Mar 16 01:20:29 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-debian-9 is what I came across early this year. Mar 16 01:20:48 I would not listen to the entire log completely but that paste is good. Mar 16 01:25:13 You have to run and set up tightvncserver on your BBB beforehand w/ vncserver w/out sudo. Mar 16 01:25:29 I don't have a directory caled Xresources Mar 16 01:25:40 So, instead of sudo vncserver, just type vncserver. Mar 16 01:25:58 I do Mar 16 01:26:44 Okay. Hey. HOld for this paste. Mar 16 01:27:21 https://pastebin.com/QxKjh8mn <<< try this idea on your BBB Mar 16 01:32:58 it works on wsl. I got it to work. Mar 16 01:33:16