**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 20 02:59:57 2020 Mar 20 14:07:01 I've read conflicting information regarding the rear USB on a B'Bone Black. Some say it works in otg, and some say it's peripheral only. I'd -like- it work in otg. (grin) Mar 20 14:07:34 Rear being the mini port, not the full-size A port. Iirc that's "usb0" in the device tree. Mar 20 14:15:40 Ragnorok: it's not otg Mar 20 14:16:38 Hurm. As in it's absolutely impossible to do that, I take it. I were a'feared. Mar 20 14:17:05 Ragnorok: it has no ability to output 5v, the usb0_drvvbus signal of the am335x is not connected Mar 20 14:17:37 There it is. Thanks! Mar 20 14:17:58 I knew I should have looked at the schematic. Mar 20 14:19:08 (also, OTG requires a micro-AB socket, not a mini-B) Mar 20 14:20:01 Ah. Roit. I -used- to know that. (grimace) Mar 20 16:50:07 zmatt I've not seen a micro-AB socket used that often though Mar 20 16:50:34 those things are rare Mar 20 16:50:38 even a micro-A is rare Mar 20 16:52:47 hmm the mini-B and micro-B and A seem to be the most common of course C is flopping around (bloody crApple invention) Mar 20 16:53:44 I guess B-3 is next? Mar 20 16:58:59 Never seen anyone else use "crApple" before. lol Mar 20 17:14:46 Well actually that would be raising the value of "Apple" as an entity. They put a lot of effort into their products but if you aren't familiar with Apple's methods of that, be very thankful you never stepped into that hell. Mar 20 17:16:04 I use that all the time. I never have and hopefully never will give them a single cent. Mar 20 17:23:37 giving them money is one thing, dealing with them is technically slavery. They aren't "Bad people" they are "spumae terrae" or "apovrásmata tis gis" translation "scum of the earth" :D Mar 20 17:25:36 lol I don't deal with them, either, nor do I help peeps who ask me questions about them. In general they are not part of my reality and I work at keeping it that way. Mar 20 17:26:19 It's not that I disparage those who ask, I simply have no real value add with their problems. Mar 20 17:32:48 On topic USB-C I don't like (honestly I am not thrilled with what they did with USB-3 either). Some of it was Apple's influence, some of it was people "listening" to ideals instead of reality. As for reality, Apple is a real, and probably needs painted blue to warn people away. Mar 20 17:35:36 Imo C is vastly superior to 3, which was a committed botch job at best. Having said that I've never liked USB from the start, though it is finally sort of working that way one would have hoped when it was released. Only took, what, 25 years? Mar 20 18:12:56 USB is a mess of connectors (most of which are useless). So the USB 3.1 is actually what you are referring too likely which included the USB-C connector (one for all I call it). AKA lightning connector from crApple. Mar 20 18:43:20 I need serial com help Mar 20 18:44:02 I am trying to talk to a motor contorller. I am using the Rx Tx and Gnd of a Rs232 cable Mar 20 18:44:32 I am getting a break condition error Mar 20 18:44:41 immediately after I open the port Mar 20 18:45:46 I have a port monitor loaded up, moved to windows to make this easier. Mar 20 18:46:33 I see a get modem status called like a zillion times coming back 0x00000000 Mar 20 18:46:46 I read this could trick it into a close port signal Mar 20 18:47:20 I am not sure how to stop it. supposedly could be caused by mismatch in baudrate but I matched them up at 9690 Mar 20 18:47:24 9600 Mar 20 18:47:31 any ideas? Mar 20 18:49:17 I presume you've verified the connection is good using some device other than the controller? Mar 20 19:01:45 yes I did a loop back connecting Tx and Rx Mar 20 19:04:37 ds2: micro-A does not exist Mar 20 19:04:41 (socket) Mar 20 19:04:50 :D Mar 20 19:06:59 I can also communicate to my beagle Mar 20 19:07:17 o just cannot plug in the controller and not get the break condition Mar 20 19:09:12 what is normal traffic over a serial Mar 20 19:09:54 The normal state of the line should be high (marking) without traffic. The break state indicates it's low. Mar 20 19:10:37 ds2: officially you have: mini-B socket/plug, micro-B socket/plug, micro-AB ("OTG") socket, micro-B plug Mar 20 19:10:58 where a micro-AB socket accepts both micro-A and micro-B plugs Mar 20 19:12:51 GenTooMan: you're forgetting that rs232 is inverted: mark (deasserted, logic 1) is -15V .. -3V, space/break (asserted, logic 0) is 3V .. 15V Mar 20 19:13:33 MattB0ne: just to clarify, you're not connecting RS232 directly to a beaglebone I hope? Mar 20 19:13:45 no Mar 20 19:13:49 ok good Mar 20 19:14:25 when I have the bone in I have it going through a logic convertor Mar 20 19:14:40 an rs232 transceiver you mean Mar 20 19:15:04 anyway, have a link to the datasheet of your motor controller? Mar 20 19:15:13 I just have jumper cables for the that hook up since the plan is to have beagle drive the controller Mar 20 19:15:21 it is a jrk12v12 Mar 20 19:15:35 but I am not getting a response Mar 20 19:16:09 so I am using the Rs232 to diagnose going directly to he controller and hooked up to he windows box Mar 20 19:16:50 https://www.pololu.com/product/1393 Mar 20 19:18:15 When you say logic converter I'm guessing USB<->Serial? Mar 20 19:18:16 it doesn't have any rs232 :P Mar 20 19:19:06 it has usb, it has 5V TTL serial, but no rs232 Mar 20 19:19:47 so how did you connect it to your PC exactly? Mar 20 19:20:07 and likewise to the BBB Mar 20 19:27:13 I cannot just use the pins? Mar 20 19:27:26 what do you mean by that? Mar 20 19:27:42 Rx and Tx from the rs232 Mar 20 19:27:56 can you please start reading what I said? Mar 20 19:28:01 so I don't have to repeat myself Mar 20 19:28:48 20:18 <@zmatt> it doesn't have any rs232 :P Mar 20 19:28:48 20:19 <@zmatt> it has usb, it has 5V TTL serial, but no rs232 Mar 20 19:29:11 I did I take jumpers and connect the 3 pins corresponding to Tx Rx and GND Mar 20 19:29:15 and just connect that Mar 20 19:29:20 to what? Mar 20 19:29:56 the only thing you can connect it to with 3 jumpers is another 5V TTL serial port, which you won't find on a PC nor on a BBB Mar 20 19:32:38 I take female to female wires and make the connects. if I join TX to RX it works, most of the pins are not connected so I have three wires extending out of the rs232 and plugging into the appropriate ports Mar 20 19:33:22 * zmatt sighs deeply Mar 20 19:33:53 lol Mar 20 19:34:16 the manual does not make it seem like I am crazy Mar 20 19:34:36 "What are you connecting to what exactly" "I'm plugging some things in the things of the thing" Mar 20 19:34:40 they have my setup describe d explicitly Mar 20 19:34:59 the main setup they describe is just plugging it into usb Mar 20 19:35:00 and done Mar 20 19:36:46 they also offer the serial which is more reflective of how I would communicate with it using the BBB Mar 20 19:39:01 but, yes like I said about 5 times that's a 5V TTL serial port (_NOT_ _RS232_) which means you can't connect it directly to a PC nor to a beaglebone... you'd need a level shifter to connect it to a beaglebone, or to connect it to a PC you'd either need to hook it up to an rs232 transceiver to be able to connect it to an RS232 port of a PC, or you'd connect it to an USB 5V TTL serial converter Mar 20 19:41:14 yep page 7 of the user manual gleefully calls it "TTL" < likely CMOS actually (bleah) Mar 20 19:44:36 MattB0ne: When you say "RS232" you are implying differential signals. TTL is not differential. If you plug differential signals into your board it's toast. Mar 20 19:46:13 RS232 is not differential Mar 20 19:46:32 Oh. I thought it was. My bad. I guess that's RS484 or whatever it is. Mar 20 19:46:43 Either way, it's not compatible with TTL. (grin) Mar 20 19:46:48 you're probably thinking of RS422 or RS485 Mar 20 19:47:06 it's definitely not compatible with TTL/CMOS serial ports of any voltage Mar 20 19:49:55 so this https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-1-3-usb-to-rs-232-db9-pda-serial-adapter-cable-black/5883029.p?skuId=5883029&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=160&ref=212&loc=BM01&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQjw09HzBRDrARIsAG60GP-3_TgBuz5yzW946nx7aQxNf8BFFX40pUzqjHje0Re9R6S9eqQ-I8saAr0LEALw_wcB Mar 20 19:50:00 will never work Mar 20 19:50:34 ? Mar 20 19:51:15 it will never work and it may destroy the controller Mar 20 19:52:26 (depending a bit on how robust the I/O cells are of the PIC18F14K50 it seems to connect to) Mar 20 19:52:58 (and the voltages produced by that usb-rs232 converter) Mar 20 19:53:44 how about usb to TTL Mar 20 19:53:52 I have that cable too Mar 20 19:53:56 That's the ticket. Mar 20 19:53:58 usb to 5V TTL yes Mar 20 19:57:06 cool so what is the difference between the ttl and rs232 Mar 20 19:57:20 I was using interchangeably which is wrong Mar 20 19:57:49 5V TTL means logic 1 is about 5V, logic 0 is about 0V Mar 20 19:58:28 RS232 means logic 1 is below -3V (may be as low as -15V), logic 0 is above 3V (may be as high as 15V) Mar 20 19:59:46 ok is it critical that the Gnd of the controller be the same. Mar 20 20:00:00 RS232 also uses fairly heavy duty drivers and is required to tolerate short-circuit to any voltage between -25V and 25V for any amount of time Mar 20 20:00:06 zmatt: That's why I was thinking differential. Mar 20 20:00:13 I have a Gnd on the TTL. but my psu has a ground as well Mar 20 20:00:17 I know it's not, but that's why I was thinking it. Mar 20 20:00:38 both RS232 and TTL and basically any other non-isolated interface required a very good ground connection Mar 20 20:00:48 *requires Mar 20 20:01:24 if both sides are also grounded to protective earth then you may encounter additional headaches Mar 20 20:03:11 hallelujah Mar 20 20:03:13 (such headaches may be minimized by making sure both sides are grounded together at a short distance, e.g. for devices with a grounded power plug, plug them both into the same wall socket or power strip) Mar 20 20:03:39 (this is not a substitute for the ground connection that's part of the serial interface) Mar 20 20:08:06 GenTooMan: yeah it's definitely not TTL-compatible... Mar 20 20:08:08 VIL max 1.0 V, VIH min 4.0 V Mar 20 20:08:22 a fried controller cannot handshake right? Mar 20 20:08:35 VOL max 0.6 V (@ -8 mA), VOH min 4.3 V (@ 3.5 mA) Mar 20 20:09:36 MattB0ne: there is no golden rule w.r.t the effects of overvoltage exposure Mar 20 20:10:20 there do exist states in between "completely unharmed" and "fried to hell" Mar 20 20:10:57 (e.g. "minor damage to gate oxide resulting in shifted thresholds and/or reduced device lifetime") Mar 20 20:11:35 MattB0ne: Try USB and see if it still works. Mar 20 20:12:28 I'm assuming the "21:03 < MattB0ne> hallelujah" means he got a response Mar 20 20:18:40 yeah board still detected by windows and works with config sw Mar 20 20:19:25 I was worried about partial failure. Switch ing to the TTL cleaned up the break condition but still not getting a response from the board Mar 20 20:20:11 are you sure it's configured in the right mode? (so it's listening for commands on the serial port) Mar 20 20:21:11 e.g. "UART, fixed baud rate" with the desired baudrate Mar 20 20:21:35 it is the only COM port that comes up and disappears when I unplugged. I have it set to UART and 9600 baudrate. Mar 20 20:22:00 I am in cool term, and I have the same baud rate set and all flow control turned off. Mar 20 20:22:36 when I send a command so 0xA5 by typing in the command window Mar 20 20:22:55 I see the TX light up but not RX Mar 20 20:23:07 oh it's a binary protocol Mar 20 20:23:21 so no chance in hell you'll be able to test it via a terminal program Mar 20 20:24:03 but you could test the serial port using "usb dual" mode, which connects the second usb interface of the jrk to its serial port Mar 20 20:37:50 hmmm still not getting any reads Mar 20 20:38:02 using what? Mar 20 20:38:16 I am in dual mode Mar 20 20:38:50 and I connected the USB so I have both the TTL active and the config tool sees the board via usb Mar 20 20:39:40 to reduce the number of variables it's probably better to connect tx to rx on the jrk (loopback) rather than connecting it to the USB 5V TTL adapter Mar 20 20:40:29 and then see if you get what you type echoed back on the second usb serial interface exposed by the jrk (what they call the "TTL Port") Mar 20 20:41:21 Always good to verify methodically each thing to see if it works. Mar 20 20:48:40 that works Mar 20 20:48:48 if I type hello it echos back Mar 20 20:48:55 and I see the RX go Mar 20 20:49:03 okay so the jrk is probably fine Mar 20 20:49:23 I am probably not sending the command right Mar 20 20:49:32 21:23 <@zmatt> oh it's a binary protocol Mar 20 20:49:37 21:23 <@zmatt> so no chance in hell you'll be able to test it via a terminal program Mar 20 20:50:33 lol Mar 20 21:02:24 so what would I test Mar 20 21:02:59 since you've verified the hardware is okay you can just continue on Mar 20 21:04:29 but since it's a binary protocol you'll need software to communicate with the controller, it's not something you can type out in a terminal (not in any practical way at least) Mar 20 21:15:23 in the example code they are just doing write statements to the device. typing in the terminal is different? Mar 20 21:17:15 well you have no convenient way to write a byte like 0xAB to it in a terminal... I guess if the encoding is set to latin1 you can try pasting a "º" into it Mar 20 21:18:30 in general all of the command bytes have bit 7 set, so they're not plain ascii Mar 20 21:20:11 you seem to be confusing writing a byte like 0xAB with writing the 4-byte string "0xAB" (which consists of the bytes 0x30, 0x78, 0x41, and 0x42 ) Mar 20 21:24:55 what an weird thing to use CRC7 ... Mar 20 21:25:08 why? Mar 20 21:25:13 seems perfectly sensible Mar 20 21:26:22 it limits the length amount of data you can send per command. Different CRC's have only a certain number of symbols they can cover. Mar 20 21:26:50 you're not making sense Mar 20 21:27:21 a CRC of any length can cover any length of data Mar 20 21:28:28 also I haven't looked at the protocol in much detail but it seemed like the commands were all a few bytes in length at most Mar 20 21:33:34 longest seems to be 3 bytes (including the command byte, excluding the crc) ... crc7 seems more than adequate, bordering on overkill Mar 20 21:34:11 they may have used it so the amount of memory is less for a LUT CRC check. Mar 20 21:35:23 no they used it because there's no benefit to making it any shorter (since adding any amount of crc/checksum would add an extra byte anyway) and adding more than a single byte of crc/checksum to a 3-byte message would be ludicrous Mar 20 21:35:57 (and it uses crc7 instead of crc8 since bit 7 is used for synchronization, it indicates the start of a command) Mar 20 22:26:34 the commands are compact with instructions passed in 1 or 2 bytes Mar 20 22:27:12 I did have that confused. you would think there is a program to send a true byte command Mar 20 22:30:19 I am not sure how I troubleshoot if I cannot send a valid command to the unit in a manual way Mar 20 22:30:29 my program already doesn't work Mar 20 22:30:50 which was sending 1 command with a write statement. Mar 20 22:34:35 unsign char of 0xA6 Mar 20 22:34:49 Is a byte not a string right? Mar 20 22:37:14 https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/types/byte is something I found. Are you working w/ C++ or just C? Mar 20 22:39:02 In the example, you can change some stuff around and pick your g++ versioning. Mar 20 22:39:50 ... Mar 20 22:39:58 thanks I will take a look Mar 20 22:40:01 Just for reference, I do not know anything you are doing right now. Mar 20 22:40:09 I just thought that may help. Mar 20 22:40:22 when using a sdcard to flash an image to emmc, does it automatically expand the filesystem? Mar 20 22:50:20 it creates a new filesystem on eMMC Mar 21 01:22:20 Any body home?? Mar 21 01:22:54 hopefully many people are, to help reduce the spread of covid-19 Mar 21 01:27:02 My USB to TTL adapter died today. Mar 21 01:27:29 may it rest in peace Mar 21 01:28:35 It started going down/up/down/up. Now it's quiet. Windows dosen't see it. I tried aother USB port. No luck. Mar 21 01:31:12 RIP Mar 21 01:31:59 I need to find someone who really knows Windows. You know that sound it makes an attachment. Then when attachment disconnects. Well it's doing it repeatedly . Sure wish there was a log to see. Maybe someone is trying to hack into mw laptop? Mar 21 01:32:24 sounds unlikely Mar 21 01:32:48 and there probably is a log.. somewhere Mar 21 01:33:23 if something is attaching and detaching it would presumably be visible in device manager.... and I guess it should end up in the windows event log? Mar 21 01:33:41 Well the security log shows numerous logins and logoffs using anonamous. Mar 21 01:34:25 *shrug* ... I don't actually know much about windows :) Mar 21 01:34:34 if a log entry seems odd you could always try googling it Mar 21 01:35:15 There's a idea. I tried but you can't copy and paste. Mar 21 01:35:35 pretty sure you can, at least in windows event log Mar 21 01:36:16 I'll try it later. What Mar 21 01:38:21 I did do was change my P.C. name , changed password , inhibited remote access , changed workgroup. See here here's and number of folks on the same workgruop. Changing the workgroup should make it harder to access. Mar 21 01:40:05 I know the workgroup changed things. When Mar 21 01:40:40 I browse the network I don't see the other P.C.'s any more just my P.C. Mar 21 01:52:21 Hello, KenUnix: Change things back! Mar 21 01:52:41 why? Mar 21 01:53:15 B/c, he changed a bunch of stuff and now his whatever does not work. Mar 21 01:53:25 if he changes things back, his whatever may work. Mar 21 01:53:35 no I'm pretty sure he considers it to be a good thing that other PCs no longer show up Mar 21 01:53:41 Oh. Mar 21 01:53:55 He must have an odd set up. Mar 21 01:54:10 Well, compared to mine. Mar 21 01:54:15 it shouldn't really be relied on as a security mechanism though Mar 21 01:54:33 Hmm. The BBB is his computer? Mar 21 01:54:42 he's not talking about a BBB Mar 21 01:54:46 I thought he worked from a laptop. Mar 21 01:54:49 Oh. Mar 21 01:55:26 So, he has a laptop (computer) and he is in some sort of folks home that needs extra permissions to access out? Mar 21 01:55:41 Or... Mar 21 01:56:10 Even better, he needs to access something he should not be accessing w/ Win. Either way, more power to him. Mar 21 01:57:12 Workgroup! Mar 21 01:57:27 I do not mess w/ workgroups but that is most likely it. Mar 21 01:57:42 No access w/in or w/out the groups may cause issues. Mar 21 01:59:17 I have been following for some time now, even when I am not paying attention. I still do not know the end result KenUnix desires. Mar 21 01:59:55 I ask and ask. No answer. It must be odd. Mar 21 02:00:00 Speak of the devil! Mar 21 02:00:08 KenUnix: Hey! Mar 21 02:00:10 Me! Mar 21 02:00:13 You! Mar 21 02:00:36 KenUnix: What is the end result you desire from your tweaking of Win? Mar 21 02:00:40 My USB to TTL adapter bit the dust today. Mar 21 02:00:45 Oh. Mar 21 02:00:49 I know. I read that part. Mar 21 02:00:59 How could it just die? Mar 21 02:01:28 Yea, up/down/up/down the down. Tried diffeent USB port np luck. Mar 21 02:01:46 Hmm. Have you rewired it? Mar 21 02:01:53 Once or twice? Mar 21 02:02:34 I posted a message on Amazon to seller it was only a month old. Mar 21 02:02:41 Dang. Mar 21 02:02:57 One month = no more in todays electronics Mar 21 02:02:59 NO! Mar 21 02:03:16 Oh well. Mar 21 02:03:34 Hopefully, you get your item back w/ compensation. Mar 21 02:03:48 Disdusting family pictures I put toghter on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/9519901@N07/albums/72157602827147869 Mar 21 02:03:57 What? Mar 21 02:03:59 No. Mar 21 02:04:15 Hey. Mar 21 02:04:42 Yes I'm inthere Ken through the years. Mar 21 02:04:48 Hhahaha. KenUnix: Stop. Mar 21 02:05:14 Took some time to put togheter Mar 21 02:05:32 If I see one more photo of Larry, Bob, or Henry (I think it goes in that order), I am going to smash my BBB. Mar 21 02:06:03 Larry, Bob, Henry ? Mar 21 02:06:09 Or whomever. Mar 21 02:06:17 No more photos. Mar 21 02:06:42 I know! Mar 21 02:06:52 Show off some BBB related photos! Mar 21 02:07:33 Hello? Mar 21 02:08:00 Look here https://www.flickr.com/photos/9479603@N02/albums/72157614479572582 And a couple short ideo's. Mar 21 02:08:02 Show off the next generation BBB related mechanism. Mar 21 02:08:17 Okay. Please hold. brb = off to look! Mar 21 02:08:51 I saw no bbb on the page. Mar 21 02:09:01 There talk of a new machine cape with steeper motor support, Opto input, Relay output Mar 21 02:09:21 look scroll down to the bottom Mar 21 02:09:25 KenUnix: Will you teach me something? Mar 21 02:09:46 Relay and stepper motors are neat. Mar 21 02:10:06 There are BBB photos there. scroll to the buttom Mar 21 02:10:08 It is a tough field. So many drivers and so many actuators. Mar 21 02:10:15 Okay. Mar 21 02:10:16 Fine. Mar 21 02:11:01 SMug Mug got w/ flicker. Gosh. Mar 21 02:11:18 My darn life just got "better." Mar 21 02:11:54 KenUnix: Hey. Man. Sir, will you please teach me how to use some really neat ServoCape? Mar 21 02:12:28 The two video's are neat. I never done one. Mar 21 02:12:30 I have this servo but the Cape gives me a turnbuckle of a time when promoting servo use. Mar 21 02:12:36 Done what? Mar 21 02:12:44 What have you not done? Mar 21 02:13:00 Plyed with capes Mar 21 02:13:07 Oh. Mar 21 02:13:25 It is like the self-made items but already assembled and "ret" to go. Mar 21 02:13:30 Zorro and his cape. Mar 21 02:13:36 Plug and play. Mar 21 02:13:44 No! BBB and the Beagle's Cape. Mar 21 02:13:59 I showed emphasis. Mar 21 02:14:07 "!" Mar 21 02:14:34 Anyway, okay. Mar 21 02:14:45 I got to learn this thing, see. Mar 21 02:15:21 The Cape beat me. @zmatt tried helping me but I failed him b/c I have a dislike of learning right now. Mar 21 02:15:32 I am trying to overcome the slope. Mar 21 02:15:48 If I can find that machine cape I will let you know tomorrow. Mar 21 02:16:02 What machine cape? Did you make one? Mar 21 02:16:33 Does your machine cape have servo connections? Mar 21 02:17:34 Sometimes, I look at my "forgotten" capes and think, "Am I a collector of sorts? Mar 21 02:17:37 " Mar 21 02:17:58 But...the Capes development is ongoing. Mar 21 02:18:01 This is nice for me. Mar 21 02:18:34 "Twice as nice spice!" Mar 21 02:18:37 brb Mar 21 02:21:08 brb, hold Mar 21 02:23:08 Sorry. Mar 21 02:23:52 So, I got this ServoCape. It has a PCA9685 on it. Mar 21 02:24:52 I have some source for it but it was given to me. It is typed up in Python and I lack the basic understanding on how I should run my source (I think). Mar 21 02:24:54 ... Mar 21 02:25:07 Would you glance at it quickly and let me know your thoughts? Mar 21 02:26:48 Look at this cape http://blog.machinekit.io/p/hardware-capes.html . Yea sure. Mar 21 02:28:29 All kinds of capes here : Mar 21 02:28:29 https://www.google.com/search?q=beaglebone+machine+cape&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk00iJ78DDI1eQgI9uRFJU6kmnPfFJA:1584757322568&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ROrHuGkbe-qQoM%253A%252CSP-IacElXIpcOM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQdrtYXxinAmMADvc0cyckXiFHiZw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwit7JCKwaroAhVUhHIEHZ52DR4Q9QEwDHoECAoQFg#imgrc=rnqxvVI7gw3P8M Mar 21 02:28:44 Okay. Mar 21 02:29:15 Please hold while I try to track the source down. I think I lost it. Mar 21 02:29:17 Dang it. Mar 21 02:30:49 I have not seen that first site you linked here in a year or two. Mar 21 02:30:54 They still exist! Mar 21 02:31:44 KenUnix: I am going to get the given source off the board real quickly. Bear w/ me. Mar 21 02:32:00 I am booting now. Mar 21 02:32:12 Dang it. I did not back up this board yet. Mar 21 02:33:41 Well. I must have backed it up b/c now everything is gone on it. Mar 21 02:33:42 Yikes. Mar 21 02:36:36 Okay, okay. Mar 21 02:36:43 I found it in the wrong place. Ouch! Mar 21 02:37:31 https://pastebin.com/QzF0x8YG is for the ServoCape. Mar 21 02:37:54 But...I do not know how to make communication present from a .py file yet. Mar 21 02:47:19 Hello>? Mar 21 02:48:06 Neat. Never learned Python. Mar 21 02:49:51 Oh. Mar 21 02:49:53 Okay. Mar 21 02:49:59 Well, have at it! Mar 21 02:50:36 Did anyone ever call you something? Mar 21 02:50:58 That appears to be sub-routines and or setup code Mar 21 02:51:07 Okay. Mar 21 02:51:24 It is a simple module for working w/ the PCA9685. Mar 21 02:51:48 It is meant for LEDs but it has ported to work w/ a servo or two (16)! Mar 21 02:52:41 I notice it also mentions pwm . Audio output. Mar 21 02:53:49 Oh. Mar 21 02:53:51 Okay. Mar 21 02:53:52 it's a pwm led controller Mar 21 02:53:57 Right. Mar 21 02:53:59 not even remotely audio related Mar 21 02:54:12 (pwm is almost never used for audio) Mar 21 02:55:06 @zmatt: I showed KenUnix the source for the PCA9685 that had been untested. Mar 21 02:55:17 I tried, sir. Sorry. Mar 21 02:55:22 Bye! Mar 21 02:55:38 Pulse Width Modulation. Mar 21 02:56:04 set_: ah yeah, for that nearly useless PCA9685 breakout cape :P Mar 21 02:56:56 KenUnix: that is indeed what pwm stands for Mar 21 02:57:00 * zmatt gives KenUnix a star **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 21 02:59:57 2020