**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 31 02:59:57 2020 Mar 31 03:00:14 Oops. Drop the audio from audio/video. SOrry. Just video. Mar 31 03:00:28 Unless, the camera mic was listening. I have not clue really. Mar 31 03:05:00 That book I reference above shows how to setup media server audio & video. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 31 03:07:53 2020 Mar 31 03:10:09 Amazon has book https://www.amazon.com/Building-Network-Servers-Using-Beaglebone/dp/1784390208 Mar 31 03:10:52 huh media servers .. it's been a while since I set one up Mar 31 03:13:51 Gotta go. Good night. Mar 31 03:16:22 Hey. I never once set up a media server. Mar 31 03:16:29 get rest things are getting weird in the US let me tell you Mar 31 03:16:29 That would be cool, too. Mar 31 03:16:52 I know. I went out today. It was like a ghost town. Mar 31 03:17:13 "Man on the town." Mar 31 03:17:16 do you have a smart TV? PS4 PS3? Mar 31 03:17:21 Sure! Mar 31 03:17:25 I got everything. Mar 31 03:17:39 Well, not a psX. Mar 31 03:17:44 I have a TV. Mar 31 03:17:45 Good thing you are many states away at a safe distance, :D Mar 31 03:17:57 Why are you saying so? Mar 31 03:18:16 Are people looting there? Mar 31 03:18:26 no modern smart TV those can attache to a media server so you can watch video from the server on the display. Mar 31 03:18:46 Oh. Mar 31 03:18:55 you said you had everything set, an old joke from the 40's I think infering that you have a host of diseases. Mar 31 03:18:56 I got you. You are. Mar 31 03:19:05 Oh. Mar 31 03:19:06 Ha. Mar 31 03:19:33 40's was the bees' knees? Mar 31 03:20:02 "Solid Gold Oldies?" Mar 31 03:20:02 I wonder if I still have my PSX? wow that would be ancient history. It was fun to hack on at least. Mar 31 03:20:23 I once had a sega 1600, remember? Mar 31 03:20:34 I played defender! Mar 31 03:20:37 Neat Mar 31 03:20:46 that was an Atari game. Mar 31 03:20:58 Oh yea. Atari. Not sega. SOrry. Mar 31 03:21:25 so you had an Atari 2600? Mar 31 03:21:31 pwoosh, pwoosh. Shootin' 'em down. Mar 31 03:21:37 That dude is really old stuff. LOL Mar 31 03:21:53 I liked things once in a while. Mar 31 03:22:28 Then, bbb happened. I wanted all the neatest stuff. MOSFETS, OP Amps, and so on. Caps! Mar 31 03:23:05 Now, I must watch out for disease in the US, looters, and coughers. Mar 31 03:23:11 Save time. Mar 31 03:24:02 GenTooMan: YOu typed 40's. There must have been some odd things in the 40's. Mar 31 03:24:43 Huh 3m apparently has ramped up production of face masks specifically the N95 which apparently gets things down to 0.3 micron Mar 31 03:24:50 Yellow fever, typhoid flu, and napalm. Odd how things change? Mar 31 03:25:05 Oh. Mar 31 03:25:16 3m...more like 3b? Mar 31 03:25:33 million to billion! Dang COVID-19. Mar 31 03:25:35 my uncle was one of the first people to receive sulfa antibiotics he had yellow fever. Mar 31 03:25:42 See. Mar 31 03:25:59 the irony is that they gave him so much his skin turned yellow ... Mar 31 03:26:06 I am scared, not only for me but for our way of life. Mar 31 03:26:30 Ghost towns are not nice to play in. Mar 31 03:27:10 4000+ diagnosed cases in our state. Mar 31 03:27:11 well in the US local governments procrastinated and also didn't actually think about pandemics tell it was too late. Mar 31 03:27:45 now we have governors locking people into places and huge number of businesses closing. Mar 31 03:27:53 But only 158 deaths. Not bad. Not good either but look at NY. Mar 31 03:27:54 Right. Mar 31 03:28:22 GenTooMan: did you see that bbb brain for DNA sequencing/ Mar 31 03:28:23 ? Mar 31 03:29:05 The people in CA are letting their prisoners go. Mar 31 03:29:07 Well Seattle NYC and Philadelphia are the worst hit cities. Mar 31 03:29:27 hmm no (regarding BBB brain DNA) Mar 31 03:29:51 Oh. I will show you. Mar 31 03:29:53 Please hold. Mar 31 03:30:08 Chai is the mfg. I think I got the name right. Mar 31 03:31:30 https://www.chaibio.com/openqpcr is expensive but would be good for a science lab at H.S. or a library w/ a maker space. Mar 31 03:31:48 My thoughts, anyway. I am sure there are 100+ uses. Mar 31 03:32:08 I wanted to get one and then the price hit me. Dang it. Mar 31 03:32:17 I could test myself! Mar 31 03:32:36 "My own, little testing pig." Ha. Mar 31 03:34:31 that can be abuse. by the way the OSH is toast someone like green peace type people infiltrated it and has pretty much destroyed it (OSH Open Source Hardware( Mar 31 03:35:01 Wait. What? Please explain. Mar 31 03:35:22 For people testing themselves? Mar 31 03:35:44 You didn't read about that? they schemed out the original leader of OSH. As for the tester as long as it;s using it's own license it's fine. Mar 31 03:36:01 No, I did not hear of that idea. Mar 31 03:36:11 OSH is now ruined? Mar 31 03:36:53 Let's just say a number of key Open Source Software and hardware people have been targeted with this scheming, The FSF no longer has the founder as he was ousted by politics at MIT, Mar 31 03:37:27 Odd. Mar 31 03:37:39 Green Peace also ousted it's founder a few decades ago. Green Peace was meant for using science to solve environmental problems. Mar 31 03:38:06 I guess we all get it, no matter how smart or how nice. "Happens to the best of them." Mar 31 03:38:32 I have not heard of Green Peace in a long time. Mar 31 03:38:53 is that part of WHO now? Mar 31 03:39:43 Just giving you fair warning. Green Peace use to ram boats and run political schemes but that didn't sustain the organization well. Mar 31 03:39:52 Ha. Mar 31 03:39:59 I remember the whale savers. Mar 31 03:40:27 They would go to the seas to ram boats w/ their ramming skid at sea to save the whales. Mar 31 03:40:48 Baluga is worth the ramming, I guess. Mar 31 03:40:49 Yeah.. the people doing that stuff were professional protesters. That is they were paid to cause trouble. :/ Mar 31 03:41:06 Pro's who know how to get that "chedda?" Mar 31 03:41:09 ha. Mar 31 03:41:24 Life gets odd. You are right. Mar 31 03:42:08 I was waiting for a thissle weed to brush by me on the road today. No one, I mean no one, was driving near me at 5:45. Mar 31 03:42:40 I could have done some donuts and laughed w/out paying attention. But...I refrained. Mar 31 03:42:52 pm or AM? Mar 31 03:42:55 PM! Mar 31 03:43:10 reminds me sleep might be good. Well good night. Mar 31 03:43:18 LA has barely any essential services to stay open. Mar 31 03:43:19 Later. Mar 31 03:43:41 Up, up, and otay! Mar 31 03:44:33 4.5 million people, the population, in LA will not sustain itself w/out the feds. Boo! Mar 31 03:44:33 seriously they loaded the proverbial gun and shot themselves in the foot? Mar 31 03:44:41 Yep. Mar 31 03:44:43 Ouch. Mar 31 03:44:57 Well I feel sorry for the poor people their. Mar 31 03:45:07 That is over 3/4 of our pop. Mar 31 03:45:12 and the spanish americans Mar 31 03:45:24 Wait? You feel bad for Spaniards? Mar 31 03:45:35 Oh. Mar 31 03:45:38 B/c of stigma? Mar 31 03:45:57 Or...b/c of their employment? Mar 31 03:46:53 Barrels of oil just hit a new low or was at a very low rate per barrel recently. Mar 31 03:47:20 From like $65.00 to $25.00. Our economy has been devastated. Mar 31 03:47:48 yeah Russia is trying to kill the Suadi's. Mar 31 03:47:54 We are second to IL in the gas industry. Mar 31 03:47:56 Yep. Mar 31 03:48:04 CA oil is terrible Mar 31 03:48:18 I heard there is no way to compete w/ the Saudi oil b/c it is so shallow. Mar 31 03:48:33 Russia has a harder time to drill b/c it is deep. Mar 31 03:49:04 CA...yep. B/c of all the regulation and rules. Mar 31 03:49:16 Quttar is ironically doing better than the Saudi's it has some of the highest per capita income in that part of the world. Mar 31 03:49:33 Hmm. Mar 31 03:49:49 I always thought of UAE w/ that income per capita. Mar 31 03:50:22 Our churches are closed! Mar 31 03:50:27 No schools. Mar 31 03:50:33 Weird. Mar 31 03:50:35 they decided to structure things so that education was important so they have some of the best minds in that part of the world. Mar 31 03:51:27 oh. I finally figured out something on why the Middle East got so brilliant w/ math at an early stage in life. Mar 31 03:52:12 Now, this is speculation but if I was to count the same rock so many times, I would come up w/ anther way to count the same rock. Right? Algebra! Mar 31 03:52:27 what about india? Mar 31 03:52:46 India? What about them, "I am going to sleep?" Mar 31 03:52:49 Ha. Mar 31 03:53:15 this is me nodding of.. you should see what happens when I wake up Mar 31 03:53:20 Ha. Mar 31 03:53:30 bzzt, bzzt. Mar 31 03:53:39 I saw a lot of bees today. Mar 31 03:54:07 No traffic at rush hour but bees by the hand full just swarming and flying around. Mar 31 03:54:22 that is good... probably people ramming them with cars helped. Mar 31 03:55:05 Ha. I even cleaned a wasp nest off a truck today. Depressing...yes. Clean truck...yes. Knowing I did not get stung...priceless. Mar 31 03:55:25 It is like the country but in the city. Mar 31 03:55:57 * GenTooMan actually poofs now Mar 31 03:55:59 :D Mar 31 03:56:01 No! Mar 31 03:56:43 Are you crashing for the night, mate? Mar 31 03:57:13 fine. Mar 31 12:21:35 i have a question about the BBB PRU Mar 31 12:23:01 is anyone here ? Mar 31 12:23:55 Why don't you just ask your question and then wait Mar 31 12:24:08 hhh okay sorry Mar 31 12:24:26 i have a problem in using the PRU on my BeagleBone black Mar 31 12:24:58 when i type config-pin P9_25 pruout Mar 31 12:25:03 i get this error Mar 31 12:25:15 P9_25 pinmux file not found! Mar 31 12:25:24 Pin has no cape: P9_25 Mar 31 12:26:08 P9_25 is used by hdmi audio when enabled... disabling audio (or hdmi altogether) by uncommenting the appropriate line in /boot/uEnv.txt will make P9_25 available for other uses, such as pru Mar 31 12:26:58 for a detailed overview of the P9 and P8 headers, see the P9 and P8 tabs of my pins spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/Jkcg0w Mar 31 12:27:44 thank you I will disable hdmi and try agin Mar 31 12:29:42 i have them all disabled and still get the same error Mar 31 12:29:52 uncommented* Mar 31 12:30:17 testing123: did you reboot? Mar 31 12:30:23 also, don't uncomment them all Mar 31 12:30:40 disabling eMMC will render your system unbootable unless you're booting from SD card Mar 31 12:31:06 i am booting from sd card yes Mar 31 12:31:26 and i rebooted and nothing changed Mar 31 12:32:20 oh, then your problems might also be caused by an old bootloader on eMMC. unless the old contents of eMMC matters to you I'd recommend reflashing or at least erasing it Mar 31 12:33:23 (if a bootloader is present on eMMC it takes precedence over the one on SD card, and this old bootloader may be unable to properly interpret the configuration in the /boot/uEnv.txt on your newer system on sd card) Mar 31 12:34:33 ah ok thanks I'll reflash it and try again Mar 31 12:35:04 if you just want to erase it you can do so with sudo blkdiscard /dev/mmcblk1 Mar 31 12:36:53 (I'd generally recommend flashing to eMMC and running from that instead of from sd card, but if the image you want to run doesn't fit on eMMC (e.g. the lxqt image) or you want to keep using sd card for some other reason, then I'd recommend erasing eMMC) Mar 31 12:39:42 okay you've been a great help ! i'll make sure to return to you after erasing eMMC Mar 31 15:32:43 Are UARTS, I2C, SPI enabled by default in Debian console image of elinux.org? Mar 31 16:02:49 uniqdom: pretty sure console image is same as iot in that regard Mar 31 16:03:18 i.e. cape-universal is enabled by default, hence the peripherals are enabled by default but the pins are muxed to gpio by default (except the cape i2c bus) Mar 31 16:20:35 is there a separate VBAR register for each core on an ARM A9v7 MPCORE, or do they all share the same vectors? Mar 31 16:21:12 yates: pretty sure cores never share any registers Mar 31 16:22:22 they are independent apart from cache coherency Mar 31 16:22:29 zmatt: that makes a lot of sense. thanks. Mar 31 16:22:53 i think they are banked on "world" i.e., secure vs. normal, though Mar 31 16:23:12 that varies, but is documented Mar 31 16:23:59 but for VBAR I'm pretty sure it is yeah Mar 31 16:24:26 ok Mar 31 16:24:34 ("that varies" as in, varies per register) Mar 31 16:24:49 (sometimes even per bitfield of a register) Mar 31 16:24:54 ? Mar 31 16:24:57 whoa Mar 31 16:25:00 whether or not they're banked Mar 31 16:25:23 even fractions of a bit? :) Mar 31 16:25:42 @zmatt thank you for your help yesterday. I thought I would come back on here and let you know that 4 slave device tree works perfectly and I am super pumped Mar 31 16:25:47 thank you so much! Mar 31 16:25:51 * yates misses the good-ole 8085 days... Mar 31 16:25:58 Shawn24: sweet! Mar 31 16:26:19 the utils-repo is awesome too Mar 31 16:26:51 overlay-utils rather. my apologies Mar 31 16:26:58 I thank you Mar 31 16:28:59 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TTbwJ1kIQ0 Mar 31 17:14:18 Hi :) any one here have expirience with android automotive for x15? Mar 31 17:20:28 autodev: the am572x processor sdk for android is supported by TI on the E2E forums (the x15 is just the base board of the am572x evm) Mar 31 17:21:08 Tnx. I tried. But there is only android 9 Mar 31 17:21:18 And thats working Mar 31 17:21:26 I tried Mar 31 17:22:02 But i'm interested if someone manage to do it on android 10? Mar 31 17:22:33 people here generally use debian, not android Mar 31 17:23:13 And further more, i'm interested in android automotive... Mar 31 17:24:43 By the way, is there android 10 sdk on ti? Mar 31 17:25:00 I did manage to find it Mar 31 17:25:08 Only pie Mar 31 17:26:06 you'd need to ask TI. googling it shows u-boot patches for android 10 being discussed very recently, so I'd assume android 10 support for am572x is being worked on: http://u-boot.10912.n7.nabble.com/PATCH-v4-00-10-am57xx-Implement-Android-10-boot-flow-td397799.html Mar 31 17:26:12 https://wiki.linaro.org/AOSP/Boards/BeagleboardX15 Mar 31 17:28:35 Tnx for link zmatt :) Mar 31 17:29:22 On my above link are instructions for building master Mar 31 17:29:51 And i loads, but only boot animation... Mar 31 17:33:17 maybe ask in #linaro-android Mar 31 17:34:10 however linaro doesn't have an android 10 release for am572x either: https://releases.linaro.org/android/reference-lcr/x15/ Mar 31 17:37:09 ok bye Mar 31 18:38:39 zmatt: if peripherals are enabled by default (cape-universal), but mixed to gpio, and gpio being the default, to change the mux to the peripheral, should I enable its cape? let's say /lib/firmware/BB-UART1-00A0.dtbo for UART1? Mar 31 18:39:51 uniqdom: the whole idea behind cape-universal is that you don't need to do so, instead you can just change the pinmux of each individual pin at runtime (using the config-pin utility or by setting the sysfs attributes directly in software) Mar 31 18:40:30 using overlays is also still supported, they partially override cape-universal and disable runtime pinmux for the affected pins Mar 31 18:53:53 thanks zmatt... I don't know what I could do without you. I can't find official up-to-date documentation. Elinux.org has important info, but is mixed with old nonworking content. Mar 31 19:25:07 why all pinout images show P9-18 as GPIO5, but "config-pin -i p9.18" shows Kernel GPIO id: 4 Mar 31 19:25:08 ? Mar 31 21:55:23 lemme check Mar 31 21:56:05 my pinout diagram says gpio 0.04 Mar 31 21:56:28 (the "P9" sheet of https://goo.gl/Jkcg0w ) Mar 31 22:07:32 zmatt, the diagram in your link is ok. P9.18 is GPIO5 in a lot of images seen in google images. even https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Cape_Expansion_Headers is wrong. They have a black and white table at the top that is ok (i have only checked the related pin), but color full images at the bottom are wrong Mar 31 22:09:20 is there any way to send an issue to elinux? Mar 31 22:09:46 elinux just hosts the wiki Mar 31 22:10:13 is it like a non-profit entity? Mar 31 22:10:37 or is just a guy that put a wiki in a server and people contributing? Mar 31 22:10:54 closer to the latter... https://elinux.org/Help:About Mar 31 22:11:46 anyway, you found an interesting issue, you're the first person I've seen here that found this issue :) Mar 31 22:11:54 jkridner: poke! Mar 31 22:12:55 jkridner: a bunch of pinout diagrams for the BBB incorrectly show P9.18 as being gpio5 (whereas it is gpio4) Mar 31 22:13:45 uniqdom: I generally just use my P9/P8 overviews... they include pretty much all info you might want to know about the pins Mar 31 22:16:48 zmatt, yes, is a good resource. Is that link going to expiry?? Mar 31 22:16:53 nope Mar 31 22:17:02 cool, bookmarked Mar 31 22:20:10 I also have a utility that shows your current pinmux state: https://github.com/mvduin/bbb-pin-utils/#show-pins Mar 31 23:16:32 Just a quick note. Adafruit.com is open for biz in NY and they are a COVID-19, essential business. Odd but I am thankful. I just ordered those alligator clips I needed to test the RelayCape. Now, one must wait. Yawn. Mar 31 23:17:19 ... Mar 31 23:17:33 "We are Shipping a limited number of orders for health care professionals / urgent needs only. All other orders are being held for now." Mar 31 23:17:52 Also, just for kicks. They have a locking mechanism solenoid. Mar 31 23:18:02 Wait. What? Is that what they stated on their site? Mar 31 23:18:06 yes Mar 31 23:18:10 Hmm. Mar 31 23:18:14 Dang it. Mar 31 23:18:44 I need to read more again. Mar 31 23:19:06 Dang, biscuit eating june bug snorting. Aw. Mar 31 23:19:12 Off to read. Mar 31 23:19:23 I mean, they have a link in a bright red bar at the top of their website... as well as a big link on their homepage Mar 31 23:19:40 at that quote is pretty much the first sentence from that blog post Mar 31 23:20:46 I saw it. Mar 31 23:20:48 I read it. Mar 31 23:21:16 But...I wondered why during checkout. Mar 31 23:21:38 They asked if this was in preparation for COVID-19? Mar 31 23:21:43 Hmm. Now, I know. Mar 31 23:21:56 I could have lied and got my goods. Oh well. Mar 31 23:22:38 "A smaller nose in time, does it on a dime." <<< Euphemisms! Mar 31 23:27:28 except that would make you a horrible human being Mar 31 23:30:17 Right. Mar 31 23:30:52 I am going against Pinnocio and trying to keep my nose small. Mar 31 23:31:10 Who knows? I may find a date at one point in life. Mar 31 23:33:49 I wonder if the BBB can be used to test for blood circulation in a lie detector machine. Mar 31 23:34:32 You know, if I could find the correct sensor, I guess I could do something "remarkable." Mar 31 23:36:56 https://www.amazon.com/USB-Polygraph-UP00/dp/B001RMXZ9I <<< ds2: amazon has everything! I hate amazon right now. I cannot think of anything futuristic that is not already sold on their site. Apr 01 00:05:29 set_: what sensor do you want? Apr 01 00:05:51 nothing adafruit sells is 'essential'...time savers, quick laffs, sure Apr 01 00:41:31 What's goin on?:b Apr 01 00:41:41 :b Apr 01 00:42:42 set_, ever see this cape? ;D https://www.onlogic.com/cbb-relay/ Apr 01 00:43:07 Relays, inputs, out[uts, servo... Apr 01 01:19:27 no kenunix I have never seen it Apr 01 01:21:46 Seems a bit of an odd ball design Apr 01 01:25:02 Nope. Never did before today. Apr 01 01:26:32 did never before today huh? did you fill out your sensless report? I mean census ... Apr 01 01:28:32 anywho set_ did you ever get that first servo cape to do much for you? The one with the ARM processor from seeed studio. Apr 01 01:29:29 Yea boy! Apr 01 01:29:31 Census! Apr 01 01:29:52 Yes. The Seeed Studio Motor Bridge Cape does all sorts of neat stuff. Apr 01 01:30:12 except explode and catch on fire right? Apr 01 01:30:13 DC, Servo, LEDs, Stepper! Apr 01 01:30:19 Right. Not yet. Apr 01 01:30:23 Thankfully. Apr 01 01:30:30 you're not working on that are you? :D Apr 01 01:30:35 Not right now. Apr 01 01:30:51 I am using the RelayCape as of now to produce results. Apr 01 01:31:09 The Maker Faire got cancelled, see, b/c of COVID-19. Apr 01 01:31:21 I stopped botting and got back to testing. Apr 01 01:31:40 umm set the news for covid-19 has gotten far worse and much more troublesome I'm afraid. Apr 01 01:31:56 3000 to 5200+ in one day for COVID-19 in our state. Apr 01 01:31:57 I know! Apr 01 01:32:22 It is frightening. Apr 01 01:32:29 well ... not the death rate but the FBI is investigating a researcher in the US now related to it. Apr 01 01:32:39 Aw! Apr 01 01:32:41 Really? Apr 01 01:32:51 I missed that report. Apr 01 01:33:14 brb Apr 01 01:33:47 GenTooMan: investigating for what? Apr 01 01:35:23 um yeah... https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html <-- Apr 01 01:37:25 Oh... Apr 01 01:37:34 Off to read "Yahoo"? Apr 01 01:37:40 sounds more like incompetence than malice Apr 01 01:38:31 I did read where the article stated, "a pattern." Apr 01 01:38:36 That sounds scary. Apr 01 01:39:01 Like is if the people from traveling keep getting busted for turtles and SARS. Apr 01 01:39:02 Odd. Apr 01 01:39:56 well the virus appears to have spread from the aforementioned province, but the research in that particular place is not for medical purposes I was informed. Apr 01 01:40:04 I do not know if I told you all yet. People keep getting busted from contriband in the form of turtles. Apr 01 01:40:17 SARS is far worse. Apr 01 01:40:45 They might be injecting him/her w/ truth serum now or cutting his fingers off. Yikes. Apr 01 01:41:28 that's why the FBI probe is for that particular violation mentioned in the article. Apr 01 01:42:39 http://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/ is our state basis for Parish cases. Apr 01 01:42:45 Actually far more affective that truth serum is injecting a person with doses of insulin to lower their blood sugar. That apparently is a still used by CIA and Russian spy agencies. Apr 01 01:43:05 Not bad but when you think of the little amount of people here, it is scary. Apr 01 01:43:22 also, if it was labeled "antibodies" then how did "inspection of the writing of the vials" lead "inspection personnel to believe the materials contained within the vials may be viable MERS and SARS materials" Apr 01 01:43:39 and was this confirmed, or is all this fuss about what some agents *believed* ? Apr 01 01:43:54 People are in a panic. They will test anything and everything. Apr 01 01:44:02 set_: this report is from 2018 Apr 01 01:44:05 Ha. Apr 01 01:44:13 That Yahoo one? Apr 01 01:44:26 sorry the incident was in 2018, the report is from november 2019 Apr 01 01:44:39 set_ testing peoples patience too. :D Apr 01 01:44:41 the yahoo article is recent Apr 01 01:44:49 Aw. Yea. People do odd stuff w/ their contriband. Apr 01 01:44:54 2020_0330 (monday) Apr 01 01:44:58 Traveling w/ substances is frowned upon. Apr 01 01:45:06 honestly this seems to be wildly jumping to conclusions Apr 01 01:45:11 and is pure alarmism Apr 01 01:45:17 Illegal. Apr 01 01:45:48 could be but that particular city and province aren't medical research facilities <-- reality. they are military facilities. Apr 01 01:45:52 if they are in fact just antibodies then I doubt there's a problem. Apr 01 01:46:02 TX travel quarentine is now in motion for the LA people. Apr 01 01:46:07 Too much too soon. Apr 01 01:46:28 wow.. get food while you can I guess. Apr 01 01:47:17 Anyhow zmatt I thought it was a bit interesting. The issue is properly identifying what you are carrying so people don't jump to conclusions AND proper securing of said samples. Apr 01 01:47:17 https://www.us-cert.gov/ is a nice page for cyber stuff. Apr 01 01:47:39 Do you all remember after 9/11 in the air ports? Apr 01 01:47:59 They had them fellows w/ M-16s just loafing around. Apr 01 01:48:14 Unlike anything else in my lifetime...now this. Apr 01 01:48:18 that's normal in every country but the US Apr 01 01:48:18 GenTooMan: unless those samples were tested and found to be dangerous infectious agents, this "news" article is just journalists trying to make something out of nothing Apr 01 01:48:53 GenTooMan: I get it but it is not regular for us, well was not at that point in time. Apr 01 01:48:58 zmatt probably. as news in the US is a business so bad news "makes money" kidn of pathetic. Apr 01 01:49:18 I feel like washing my eyes for having merely read it, it's really just trying to get more paniced Apr 01 01:49:37 *to get people Apr 01 01:49:59 and fuel conspiracy theories Apr 01 01:50:17 heh could be a tactic to cause the markets to fluctuate certain people can get a lot of money when people go weird in their investments. Apr 01 01:50:59 "Get me my hand sanitizer!" Apr 01 01:51:07 Ha. Apr 01 01:51:53 Although funny at times, I think this is too serious for this day and age. Do not kiss strangers, stop coughing on people, and wash thy hands. Right. Apr 01 01:51:56 their out to get me ... what they don't even know who I am ? :D Apr 01 01:52:12 "He did it!" Apr 01 01:52:56 Something is brewing. I can feel it. Apr 01 01:53:25 I feel bad for the people in China that had to eat dogs, cats, and bats to live/survive. Apr 01 01:53:44 the post office workers are behind plastic covers now and they have a guy wandering around with cleaning stuff washing the surfaces every 15 minutes. Apr 01 01:54:02 Odd days, man. Apr 01 01:54:36 The workers should have been cleaning all along. Steam producers are probably selling out right now. Apr 01 01:55:26 I had to work through 9/11 for Port Authority of NY phone/data network Apr 01 01:55:33 Oh. Apr 01 01:55:41 Hmm. Apr 01 01:55:43 How was that? Apr 01 01:57:23 Stressful? Anxiety driven, sympathetic, etc? Apr 01 01:57:38 We first had to reprogram a Northern Telecom DMS250 in middlwtown to take calls send them to a remote switch across from NY over fiber optic to NY. Lots of work and got it up and running in a few days 24/7 Apr 01 01:57:58 Nice work, mate! Apr 01 01:58:36 Also had to setup a telephone bank in Wethersfield CT Apr 01 01:59:00 Ole CT, nice place I hear. Small and full of people! Apr 01 01:59:26 We weren't screwing around Apr 01 01:59:54 at least it wasn't Poodunk (it's actually an abandoned village in new england abondoned in the 1800's however) Apr 01 01:59:56 Live in CT till my stroke. Nice place. Apr 01 02:00:06 P o dunk? hmm anyhow :D Apr 01 02:00:22 Splash? Apr 01 02:00:23 set_, ever see this cape? ;D https://www.onlogic.com/cbb-relay/ Apr 01 02:00:27 No, Apr 01 02:00:29 I have not. Apr 01 02:01:06 I poodunked blood today. I think I may have an illness. Better wash me hands and quickly. Apr 01 02:01:11 Can't find any source for the 4 relay, relay cape...>.< Apr 01 02:01:43 Got any ideas? Apr 01 02:02:38 ..... tinkle ..... tinkle ..... running water for set_ X) Apr 01 02:03:24 I think he responded earlier to that. Apr 01 02:03:42 I missed it Apr 01 02:03:58 Oh. Apr 01 02:04:05 probably not a great loss he said "no" :D Apr 01 02:04:07 I sent you a paste yesterday. Apr 01 02:04:29 Yea. I have not seen that cape before today. Apr 01 02:04:57 No. the cape you have who sells it? Apr 01 02:05:37 Oh. Apr 01 02:05:43 Everyone. Let me show you. Apr 01 02:05:46 I will get a link. Apr 01 02:05:56 GHI Elec. mfg. it. Let me get the link. Apr 01 02:06:34 https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/GHI-Electronics/RLYCPE-BBBCAPE?qs=lYGu3FyN48cRDyGlTDwMMA%3D%3D Apr 01 02:06:40 Sorry. Not everyone. Just mouser! Apr 01 02:06:54 The 5V 2AMP supply with on/off switch came in today Apr 01 02:07:11 Aw. How long did it take to get to you? Apr 01 02:07:39 About 10 days Apr 01 02:07:46 Oh. Not bad. Apr 01 02:08:01 I washed my hands. They were filthy and black from oil. Apr 01 02:08:04 almost as fast as making it yourself ... :D Apr 01 02:08:05 I got it from spakfun Apr 01 02:08:10 Oh. Apr 01 02:08:19 HaHa. Apr 01 02:09:04 I am waiting for some alligator clips now. This way, I can test that horribly bright LED w/out harassing my hands or my soldering iron. Apr 01 02:09:14 power supply w/ on/off adapter right angle plug shwpping / tax $15 Apr 01 02:09:23 Yikes. Apr 01 02:09:35 Sparkfun will get their money. Ha. Apr 01 02:09:40 That's not bad Apr 01 02:09:43 Oh. Apr 01 02:09:58 I thought paying $8.00 was "not bad." Apr 01 02:10:38 When you do an export of gpio pins how long does it stay in effect? Apr 01 02:10:51 Right then until the next boot. Apr 01 02:11:05 You can unexport them too! Apr 01 02:11:28 So with relay cape what gpio pins do Apr 01 02:11:30 I need? Apr 01 02:11:58 Oh. They have a page on github. I use P9.30 or GPIO_112 for Relay3. Apr 01 02:12:15 I think that is right. Let me double check. Apr 01 02:12:45 Yea. That is right. Apr 01 02:13:03 Man, I never thought I would get something correct in this piece. Apr 01 02:13:04 Both or either/or? Apr 01 02:13:09 Same pin! Apr 01 02:13:26 P9.30 is GPIO_112. Apr 01 02:13:28 30 and 112 the same? Apr 01 02:13:29 Aw! Apr 01 02:14:20 KenUnix: GPIO_112 is what is listed by _____ but P9 is the expansion header and P9.30 is the expansion header and pin number. Apr 01 02:14:37 Would relay 1 be gpio 110 ? Apr 01 02:14:38 Sorry. I am not always an A student. I missed the section about _____. Apr 01 02:15:00 No. Apr 01 02:15:24 Relay1 is ________. Let me give you the link and I will tell you too. Please hold. Apr 01 02:15:43 OK whats the order then? Apr 01 02:16:11 1, 2, 3, 4. Apr 01 02:16:30 and gpio pins? Apr 01 02:16:32 Left to right? Apr 01 02:16:35 Is that what you mean? Apr 01 02:16:56 I will just give out the link. They have a bunch of info. on the link. Apr 01 02:17:17 To control the relays what gpio pins do you have to hit? Apr 01 02:17:18 Relay1 = GPIO_20. Apr 01 02:17:47 Relay2 = PWM0 Apr 01 02:17:58 Relay3 = GPIO_112 Apr 01 02:18:05 https://pastebin.com/f64Ts5Nx Apr 01 02:18:17 Relay4 = GPIO_115 Apr 01 02:18:19 Hmm. Apr 01 02:18:20 ehh, that's 1,2,3,4 not 1,1,1,1 obviously Apr 01 02:18:33 "PWM0" ... what sort of identifier is that even? Apr 01 02:18:56 KenUnix: normally gpios are exported by default Apr 01 02:18:57 In the schematic, that is what is shown. Apr 01 02:19:25 set_: whatever inane net naming they used in their schematic isn't really relevant though Apr 01 02:19:43 Then, I go to the bbb.io/introduction. Apr 01 02:19:59 oh yeah the relay cape has an obnoxious overlay that's strictly worse than having no overlay at all Apr 01 02:20:01 They have the pins labeled w/ the "real" names and pads. Apr 01 02:20:07 Ha. Apr 01 02:20:26 Well, the pads are missing. I was incorrect. Apr 01 02:20:49 I saw that it stated b9. I never knew a b9. Apr 01 02:21:02 That b9 was from the schematic. Apr 01 02:21:30 I'm miffed 1=gpio20, 2=gpiopwm0, 3=gpio112,4=gpio115? Apr 01 02:21:55 Look at what @zmatt showed w/ his paste. Apr 01 02:22:14 It actually shows the P9 header w/ corresponding pin number. Apr 01 02:22:18 https://pastebin.com/G5JHb5fv Apr 01 02:22:28 there is no such thing as "gpiopwm0" Apr 01 02:24:06 zmatt, ok so that's for relay 1 ? Apr 01 02:24:12 and i recommend using /boot/uEnv.txt to disable the auto-detected overlay for the relay cape (using disable_uboot_overlay_addr0=1 (or 1/2/3 depending on cape address) Apr 01 02:24:27 or just delete /lib/firmware/BBORG_RELAY-00A2.dtbo Apr 01 02:24:40 (but the latter would be restored if you ever upgrade the overlays package) Apr 01 02:25:18 I understand...but the corresponding pin is ECAPPWMM0 which is P9.42. Apr 01 02:25:49 KenUnix: ? it shows all four relays (the first link accidently labeled them all relay 1 but I immediately pointed that mistake out in chat and I just linked a fixed version) Apr 01 02:25:57 That pin although muxed as a GPIO, is a PWM pin. Apr 01 02:26:29 set_: it's not "a PWM pin" .. it's just one of many pins that has a pwm mode as one of its many mux modes Apr 01 02:26:38 Oh. Apr 01 02:26:40 Okay. Apr 01 02:27:09 Does any know how to change the SoftAP0 on beaglebone wireless black? Apr 01 02:27:34 using nonsensical names that reference mux modes that aren't actually the one you care about just adds confusion, not clarity Apr 01 02:27:41 Is any eeprom setup neeeded on the cape? Apr 01 02:28:00 JG: I know there's a config file somewhere... can't remember where though Apr 01 02:28:08 KenUnix: "eeprom setup" ? Apr 01 02:28:12 Okay, fine. I was just glancing at the the schematic. My bad on that one. Apr 01 02:28:28 some capes have jumpers or such to select the cape address Apr 01 02:28:35 I don't know if the relay cape does Apr 01 02:28:40 but when I reboot the service the AP never comes back up Apr 01 02:28:58 It still makes sense if you go to the schematic and then to this page online: https://beagleboard.org/Support/bone101. Apr 01 02:29:16 There was mention that the eeprom was not programmed. Leave jumpers alone right? Apr 01 02:29:53 KenUnix: if the eeprom isn't programmed that would be a factory defect and reason to RMA Apr 01 02:30:32 (or you can just celebrate that it won't autoload the silly overlay and just use the cape as normal) Apr 01 02:31:06 and the cape address doesn't matter unless you have multiple capes stacked Apr 01 02:31:26 Or as you said disable it in uEnv.txt Apr 01 02:31:32 and you need to know the cape address if you want to disable or override its overlay yes Apr 01 02:31:48 it still doesn't matter what its address is, as long as you know which it is Apr 01 02:32:25 Huh? Apr 01 02:32:47 though I just realized disabling the overlay isn't strictly necessary since the bb.org kernels are patched to ignore gpio conflicts Apr 01 02:32:57 so you can also just leave it be Apr 01 02:35:19 I will get one and try it out. Clickity click Apr 01 02:36:07 KenUnix: You got a relayCape too? Apr 01 02:36:18 Neat-o! Apr 01 02:37:02 Different subject Debian 10.3 working fine. And VNC works better and firefox 68.6.0esr works good Apr 01 02:37:25 hmmm Apr 01 02:38:28 Also on VNC lxterminal and mate-terminal work well Apr 01 02:39:12 Also loaded nmap and it woks good Apr 01 02:39:16 why would you run a terminal in VNC instead of just ssh'ing to the beaglebone? Apr 01 02:39:53 Well that way I can get to a site and download what I want Apr 01 02:40:03 ? Apr 01 02:40:12 .tar.gz! Apr 01 02:40:14 if you got network and graphics working, just set DISPLAY Apr 01 02:40:38 Example if I search with google looking for BBB pdf files Apr 01 02:41:19 what does this have to do with terminals? Apr 01 02:41:42 also this sounds like you'd want to do it on a browser on your computer, not on the bbb Apr 01 02:41:53 in fact I'm still not sure why anyone would want to run a web browser on the bbb Apr 01 02:42:01 May I speak for you KenUnix? Apr 01 02:42:11 ds2 Come again. Nothing except to copy and paste from browser can only paste in terminal window Apr 01 02:42:40 Nice. Good. KenUnix always makes mistakes in typing to make it seem like he is lying. It is odd but that is what is happening (I think). Apr 01 02:43:15 "To protect the innocent." Apr 01 02:44:20 from VNC copy/paste only works within VNC session. not outside Apr 01 02:44:29 Do not get me started on KenUnix not answering questions or acknowledging someone when he is asked a question. Apr 01 02:44:31 Sheesh. Apr 01 02:45:07 I can C & P on PuTTY. Apr 01 02:45:22 And in Ubuntu when using the Ubuntu machine. Apr 01 02:45:30 set_ what's wrong buddy? Apr 01 02:45:50 You never answer me or you never acknowledge my answers. Apr 01 02:45:56 or = and Apr 01 02:46:20 I am over it. Okay. Moving on. Apr 01 02:46:29 Yes putty or xshell6 copy/paste does work Apr 01 02:47:08 It's funny when running firefox on Apr 01 02:47:23 Are you running FireFox on the BBB? Apr 01 02:47:26 pc and BBB don't always vet same results Apr 01 02:48:03 Hmm. Most likely. I remember one guy kept complaining about a phone call while they both had the same web address but had different quotes on prices. Apr 01 02:48:07 set_ yes firefox 68.6.0esr comes on 10.3 Apr 01 02:48:19 Okay. Apr 01 02:48:20 Hmm. Apr 01 02:48:52 Is FireFox extremely slow on the BBB? Apr 01 02:48:57 68.6.0esr is 32 bit version Apr 01 02:49:02 Oh. Apr 01 02:49:44 Once setup on debian 10.3 it now bad. couple of things to disale Apr 01 02:50:06 Oh. Like plugins? Apr 01 02:50:16 Those always slow down everything. Apr 01 02:50:40 zmatt: just different levels.... VNC, Remote X11, then proper SSH in Apr 01 02:50:41 Once setup on debian 10.3 it now NOT bad. couple of things to disable like pre-fetching all results. lots of i/o Apr 01 02:50:59 VNC sends a desktop over the network... Remote X11 just does a window at a time Apr 01 02:51:40 (and is harder to set up, especially if you use windows, and it may actually be slower than VNC) Apr 01 02:51:44 you can setup refresh rate Apr 01 02:52:02 windows? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Apr 01 02:52:20 firefox runs well on windows and linuxVM's. Apr 01 02:52:33 W/ PuTTY, there is no way to set up x11 forwarding and have it provide screen resolution w/ Win. Apr 01 02:52:48 the wannabe network scourge Apr 01 02:53:08 I heard it all already. PuTTY has forwarding but it does not work. Apr 01 02:53:33 no it don't work I tried it o Apr 01 02:53:49 See. I tried it for years and years. Apr 01 02:54:29 I don't think putty has fhe propper hooks for x11 Apr 01 02:55:04 Could be anything. There was a software package to work w/ PuTTY for x11 forwarding but it seems to be one big bug on my system. Apr 01 02:56:11 Try xshell6 it's free for non commerical use and you can have muloile tabs sessions to different things Apr 01 02:56:22 It kicked me out of my command prommpt, terminal, and home screen. I could not do anything except for stare at a gray screen taking over every inch of my "luxury" Dell monitor. Apr 01 02:56:36 Let me get this software package name so no one else makes my mistake. Apr 01 02:56:59 xming Apr 01 02:57:32 that works ok if connecting to local port on pc 127.0.01 Apr 01 02:57:43 Not that there are many Win users in here but just for info, do not use it. Apr 01 02:58:31 KenUnix: I have seen nothing worse. It would not allow me to make commands from my mouse or keyboard. I was held useless. Apr 01 02:58:48 on xshell6 i have a session to BBB jtag, one to ethernet and one to ssh into my linuxVM Apr 01 02:59:37 There was one way to get out of the screen of doom: ctrl + alt + delete! Apr 01 02:59:55 Luckily, it worked the 50th time I pushed it. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 01 02:59:57 2020