**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 24 03:00:16 2021 May 24 03:02:10 you can use dd to verify too, i.e. read the correct number of sectors (matching the size of the decompressed image), pipe the result through md5sum, and compare with the md5sum of the image file May 24 03:02:38 maybe there's a nice commandline utility that does all that (let me know if you find one ;) May 24 03:03:49 zmatt, ah, good idea.  Shouldn't be too hard to put that into a one-liner with some semi-colons in there (so not one command but still crammed onto one line). May 24 03:06:14 I just re-tried the flasher install again, to refresh my mind on the specifics.  It seems to finish, saying 'eMMC has been flash: please wait for device to power down.', but then it seems to reboot rather than power down. May 24 03:06:52 And when it tries to boot up again, it's reading from the eMMC and it just struggles to come up (multiple things failing). May 24 03:07:54 I've heard of people getting a reboot on attempted shutdown if the beaglebone is powered via both usb and the 5V barrel jack... though I've not been able to reproduce it, so it may be dependent on the power supply May 24 03:07:58 see that doesn't make any sense May 24 03:08:09 I just pulled down Etcher.  I'll try that just to see if it says writing to the uSC card has problems (wouldn't surprise me, as I usually buy the cheap MicroCenter brand SD cards). May 24 03:08:11 if it reboots while the sd card is still inserted, it should boot to the sd card again May 24 03:08:16 not eMMC May 24 03:09:21 zmatt, I thought about PS, so I'm using a 3a USB adapter, although I think USB might be limited to 1a.  But that should be plenty for the BBB, shouldn't it? May 24 03:10:04 consumer SD cards are not known for their reliability, although afaik SD card problems are generally due to wear-out rather than being iffy right from the factory (though I don't exclude the possibility that that might happen as well) May 24 03:10:21 what do you mean "I think USB might be limited to 1a" ? May 24 03:10:21 Oh, interesting development: I just let it sit there, and eventually the HDMI console got to a login prompt, and then a couple minutes later it powered off. May 24 03:10:52 o.O May 24 03:11:30 I thought there was a limit to how many amps could be pulled through a USB connection, at least as far as the BBB was concerned.  But perhaps I'm misinformed about that. May 24 03:11:36 maybe your beaglebone shipped with ghosts, have you tried an exorcism? May 24 03:12:00 that limit is 1.8A (versus 2A via the 5V barrel jack) May 24 03:12:06 Well, I have shaken my fist at it, tried to intimidate it.  No joy. May 24 03:13:04 But whether 1.8A or 2A, either should be plenty, right?  On a BBB with no capes. May 24 03:13:18 yes May 24 03:13:33 also, if it weren't then that wouldn't explain your symptoms May 24 03:14:08 I had a project last year with four BBBs and I think I ran them all on 1A USB adapters with no issues. May 24 03:15:03 I'm kinda baffled May 24 03:15:03 can you capture a full log from the serial console to monitor what's going on? May 24 03:16:21 I'm going to try re-installing the image on the uSD card using etcher first.  If I get the same result, I'll post the log. May 24 03:18:10 It is baffling.  Searching google, no one else on the planet seems to have this problem. May 24 03:18:27 Which suggests it's some sort of user error. May 24 03:20:24 Aha!  Installing the image via Etcher failed.  Or rather, it failed during verification.  That's progress. May 24 03:21:00 I'll try another uSD card. May 24 03:26:17 Micro SD! Argh... May 24 03:26:45 Using a different uSD card worked, at least as far as Etcher was concerned.  I noticed with the previous card the verification had lots of stops and starts, suggesting issued.  With the new card, it cruised right through the verification process at a steady rate. May 24 03:26:45 GenTooMan: I watched that video the other day in case you missed my reactions. May 24 03:27:38 Those dudes put it together nicely. I feel bad for them, though. Their yard was beat! May 24 03:27:52 And the pool. Yikes! May 24 03:29:37 Lucky for them, electronics exist! Now, they can mow until the cows come home. May 24 03:35:51 zmatt, it worked.  Installed 10.3 to the eMMC using the new uSD card which was created & verified with Etcher, and the installation went off without a hitch.  Thanks for your help. May 24 03:37:16 petre: don't forget to dispose of the bad card before it can create more mysery May 24 03:37:26 *misery May 24 03:38:09 zmatt, I just bought it a couple days ago, so I'll return it to MicroCenter for a replacement.  But yeah, it's marked with a scarlet letter. May 24 03:38:53 petre: I have a microsd card where some sectors are random number generators... each time I'd read them with dd and take the md5sum I'd get a different result May 24 03:39:29 zmatt, heh, that's a security feature. May 24 03:40:01 bizarre that this can happen even with new cards May 24 03:40:59 Considering the millions of cards cranked out, some are bound to pass inspection and fail a few weeks later.  It happens. May 24 03:41:28 Gotta run.  Thanks for the help. May 24 16:13:57 https://elinux.org/Building_for_BeagleBone says to create a small FAT32 partition for putting the u-boot files onto; but the BBB Debian images don't have this.  Why is that? May 24 16:14:21 that wiki page is ancient May 24 16:15:01 So, it's historical?  That is, that's the way it used to be done, but people have figured out a way to not have to have two partitions? May 24 16:15:48 I've seen mention of the FAT partition elsewhere (u-boot manual, maybe?)  But again, it might all be old info. May 24 16:16:14 the MLO file containing the u-boot SPL and the u-boot.img containing the full u-boot can either be installed as files on a separate FAT boot partition, or at fixed offsets between the partition table and the rootfs partition May 24 16:16:28 beaglebone images have used the latter method for many many years May 24 16:20:03 zmatt, ah, ok.  Thanks.  My long-term goal is to create my own custom image, probably using buildroot.  Most of the docs I've read so far use a separate FAT partition, probably because it's a bit simpler but at the expense of having a separate partition and thus a bit of wasted space, I suppose. May 24 16:20:37 I wouldn't call using a FAT partition simpler, it's just more things that can go wrong May 24 16:21:17 compared to writing the MLO with prepended configuration header to sector offset 256 and the u-boot.img to sector offset 768 May 24 16:22:28 Then why was the FAT partition method even created? May 24 16:23:15 dunno, you'd have to ask TI :P May 24 16:23:37 heh May 24 19:03:19 hi May 25 00:57:33 GenTooMan! May 25 02:15:34 Zoinks! May 25 02:17:01 defamation and liable. No! #beagle on Freenode! Yes...phew. May 25 02:17:09 ? May 25 02:17:25 I just read the info. from 5/19 from Freenode. May 25 02:18:21 That hostile takeover or whatever it is called is categorically significant but maybe skewed a bit...I guess it depends on the ideas from which user. May 25 02:18:36 the only one who did a hostile takeover is andrew lee May 25 02:18:41 Oh. May 25 02:18:56 tomaw was acting with authority of the freenode operators (he was unanimously elected as team leader) May 25 02:19:18 He is still around...I think. At least on Freenode's site, Lee is owner now they say or at least he says. May 25 02:19:49 Anyway...I hope they can convene in an ordered manner. May 25 02:20:07 yes freenode is now run by andrew lee and associates, the freenode operators have all left freenode May 25 02:20:26 (and so far the impression I'm getting from the new management is not good) May 25 02:20:37 Okay. I was just commenting and paraphrasing on what info. I just read from 5/19. May 25 02:20:39 Oh. May 25 02:21:06 This 'decentralization' tactic will break apart and divide, maybe. May 25 02:21:14 if you mean the pdf from andrew lee, it's mostly nonsense May 25 02:21:33 W/ tons of slogans and...Oh. No. It is on freenode's main site that I found. May 25 02:21:57 Let me get the link. May 25 02:21:58 oh that post May 25 02:22:00 by andrew lee May 25 02:22:02 Yep. May 25 02:22:03 but yeah, same thing May 25 02:22:06 Oh. May 25 02:22:07 Okay. May 25 02:22:42 Anyway... May 25 02:22:49 Thinks may get odd. No? May 25 02:23:17 I mean...back and forth, double talk, and jive turkeys. May 25 02:23:21 Ha. May 25 02:23:38 "I pitty the fool who messes w/ Freenode!" May 25 02:23:49 A-Team! Mudda, Mudda! May 25 02:24:19 apart from #beagle, every freenode channel I am/was in has either moved already or is planning to move May 25 02:24:28 I'm hoping #beagle will follow suit May 25 02:24:42 Oh. May 25 02:24:54 Dang it. Can I be or will I be a part or apart? May 25 02:25:09 Send guidance! May 25 02:25:33 I am sure, as you can tell, I am not good at following but I can keep trying! May 25 02:25:59 I'm puzzled by that question. #beagle is a public channel May 25 02:26:48 it's not like you'd need anyone's permission to move to the new one if and when we move May 25 02:29:46 Right...but where are you all going? Can I tag along? May 25 02:30:18 That libre thing? May 25 02:31:53 Or...one's own, self made makeshift award winning Chat BOT? May 25 02:32:36 Anyway...either/or/both/neither. I am sure it is going to be an excursion. May 25 02:36:19 @zmatt: Is everyone screamin' in the room where people are 'allowed' to give feedback? May 25 02:36:40 GenTooMan! May 25 02:36:53 how are we doing today, sir? May 25 02:39:23 Well...I went to the room. NO one is saying anything. May 25 02:39:29 Hmm. May 25 02:39:38 piecing together my configuration. May 25 02:40:02 Of what config. are we discussing? May 25 02:40:33 Some config. Okay...got it. May 25 02:46:12 I jumped in the, ah-um, Freenode channel b/c I think the other one received some 'hate' chat (guessing here). May 25 02:46:47 Anyway, I am going to be the ear on the tracks, the dough in your biscuit, and the white on rice. May 25 02:46:48 Ha. May 25 02:55:33 IRC my system froze up suddenly while in use so reboot and had to reconfig hexchat May 25 02:57:55 Oh. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 25 03:01:36 2021