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Feb 27 17:54:21 <nmingotti> hi guys, i have a simple questions, what are those metal shreds around the ethernet connector of the BB-AI for ?
Feb 27 17:55:19 <nmingotti> are they maybe to lock a frontal mask for the ethernet and usb-C connector ?
Feb 27 17:56:43 <zmatt> nmingotti: yeah looks like this ethernet connector was designed to make contact with a metal enclosure to ensure uninterrupted shielding
Feb 27 17:56:58 <zmatt> the same doesn't seem to apply to the usb-c connector though
Feb 27 17:57:44 <nmingotti> hi zmatt,great ! i hoped to, i am making an enclosure and i just need to make the side where there are the ethernet port and the usb-C
Feb 27 17:58:28 <nmingotti> does that kind of ethernet connector "with ears" has a name ?
Feb 27 17:58:54 <zmatt> dunno
Feb 27 18:04:15 <nmingotti> i will try to dig a bit, if i can anchor little 3d printed mask to the ethernet connector i solved a very importanto problem, for this and future projects
Feb 28 00:43:19 <set_> Does the newer BBB have a SiP or is it still SoC styled?
Feb 28 00:44:15 <zmatt> there's been no major redesign of the BBB, just some small tweaks
Feb 28 00:44:44 <set_> Okay. So, unlike the BBBW, the BBB is a SBC w/ SoC tech. Okay. Got it.
Feb 28 00:45:42 <zmatt> why would they redesign it?  it would just make it more expensive for no benefit
Feb 28 00:45:49 <set_> I am trying to keep up w/ the times. I am starting a dang-gone blogger account w/ blogging as evidence of me on this Earth w/ the BBB.
Feb 28 00:45:57 <set_> I thought people would like major updates.
Feb 28 00:46:08 <set_> Not me per se but others may want other things available.
Feb 28 00:46:08 <zmatt> it wouldn't be an update
Feb 28 00:46:17 <set_> Oh.
Feb 28 00:46:24 <set_> Upgrade?
Feb 28 00:46:26 <zmatt> no?
Feb 28 00:46:31 <set_> Downgrade?
Feb 28 00:46:38 <set_> I do not know.
Feb 28 00:46:45 <zmatt> not either really, except for probably being more expensive
Feb 28 00:46:45 <set_> no grade?
Feb 28 00:46:50 <set_> Oh.
Feb 28 00:47:17 <zmatt> the main benefit of the osd335x is that it makes it easier to design a board... but that's not a benefit if the board has already been designed
Feb 28 00:47:31 <set_> got it. I purchased a OSD335x SiP b/c I thought I could afford the BGA socket.
Feb 28 00:47:58 <set_> The BGA socket is like 750% of the cost of the chip.
Feb 28 00:47:59 <set_> ha.
Feb 28 00:48:08 <zmatt> nobody uses these things with sockets
Feb 28 00:48:25 <set_> I know but for my learning, as usual, things should start slow.
Feb 28 00:48:51 <set_> Not to the moon w/ set_ is the idea. Grounded and slow mo'.
Feb 28 00:50:05 <set_> It would have been cool to use a single pin to my liking. Anyway, you are right. I am making things up. I should not use the BGA socket or OSD335x for anything yet. I am not that dude, sir.
Feb 28 00:50:28 <set_> Maybe a blog?
Feb 28 00:50:32 <set_> Is that slow enough?
Feb 28 00:51:05 <set_> There are no updates to peoples blogs. It is like the world changes and the blogs are left in the dust w/out updates.
Feb 28 00:51:25 <set_> Anyway, blah. Back to my ramblings.
Feb 28 00:52:10 <zmatt> I mean, someone deadbugged an osd335x-csip out of pure silliness => https://twitter.com/pdp7/status/1100349116515827712
Feb 28 00:52:32 <set_> Hmm.
Feb 28 00:53:30 <set_> That is awesome.
Feb 28 00:53:36 <set_> But how?
Feb 28 00:53:43 <set_> Blog it!
Feb 28 00:54:07 <set_> Do you think he did it w/ a kernel or barebones?
Feb 28 00:54:48 <zmatt> probably a linux system, pretty much nobody programs the am335x baremetal, but dunno
Feb 28 00:55:06 <set_> So, he through a USB boot to chip and then programmed it w/ the USB?
Feb 28 00:55:29 <set_> Anyway, I do not know. That is awesome.
Feb 28 00:55:30 <zmatt>  I guess?
Feb 28 00:55:46 <set_> He had like six wires and the usb-c.
Feb 28 00:56:17 <set_> I read an article a while back about how to program the smallest chip.
Feb 28 00:56:39 <set_> This fellow had more hardware to program the chip than anything else.
Feb 28 00:57:13 <set_> Power adapter, LED for confirmation, and on and on and on. I wonder if I could find it.
Feb 28 00:57:58 <set_> Okay: https://hackaday.com/2019/01/18/ben-heck-can-program-the-smallest-microcontroller/ Interwebs!
Feb 28 00:58:09 <set_> MCU. Sorry. not just a chip.
Feb 28 01:00:50 <set_> But, not as nice as your twitter video.
Feb 28 01:05:31 <set_> ...
Feb 28 01:06:21 <set_> Is it okay if I C & P from the beagleboard.org site W/OUT showing the published icon of the .org?
Feb 28 01:07:06 <set_> Oh! I will go and read the disclaimer again.
Feb 28 01:25:59 <rcn-ee> For side reference, the chip Octavo used in that demo has an built-in eMMC as on option.. ;) https://octavosystems.com/octavo_products/osd335x-c-sip/
Feb 28 02:33:37 <set_> oh!
Feb 28 02:33:50 <set_> Fooled me.
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