**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 08 02:59:57 2022 Apr 08 12:05:07 USB Serial Problem: I have a 1500000 baud 8N1 serial that works perfectly on any Windows terminal I run, E.G. Putty, TeraTerm...but when I boot into Linux I get garbage on any terminal I use, E.G. cutecom, kermit, picocom. With picocom, I have tested every baud rate, all 5,6,7,8 data sizes, odd even and none parity. I have also tried it on several Apr 08 12:05:07 other Linux machines and none of them work, but on windowz there is no problem. Any ideas? Apr 08 16:02:24 hmm, weird baudrate Apr 08 16:30:06 hi boys, is there a forum to expose a problem with my BBB? Apr 08 16:30:22 https://forum.digikey.com/ Apr 08 16:30:35 sorry wrong link.. https://forum.beagleboard.org/ Apr 08 16:33:50 thank you Apr 08 16:33:51 maybe could I ask why my BBB is only blue led fix on power on no other led when powered to an usb from the wall? Apr 08 16:33:51 https://pic.infini.fr/gallery#SZOkAdT0/g0ekmbLD.jpg Apr 08 19:54:24 would the networking be confused if I have both the ethernet and usb plugged into one of those 4 in 1 hubs Apr 08 20:19:58 getting network unreachable Apr 08 20:20:14 my internet connection is shared but the beaglebone doesn't seem able to get an ip address Apr 08 20:20:19 ipv4 addres Apr 08 20:34:28 hmmm Apr 08 20:35:33 probably a bad sign when ip route returns nothing Apr 08 20:35:34 =( Apr 08 20:37:24 https://pastebin.com/AWTWkEb5 Apr 08 20:37:33 is my eth0 from ifconfig Apr 08 22:10:12 ifconfig is a deprecated utility, use 'ip addr' Apr 08 22:10:28 what do you mean "one of those 4 in 1 hubs" ? Apr 08 22:12:03 anyway, I'm not too familiar with the output of ifconfig, but it looks like ethernet has link up but no address, which suggests to me you've not successfully shared your internet connection to ethernet Apr 08 22:31:17 hmmm Apr 08 22:39:34 https://www.anker.com/ca/products/variant/7in1-premium-usb-c-hub-adapter/A83430A1 Apr 08 22:39:38 this is that hub Apr 08 22:39:52 so i have that and an ethernet to usb3 adapter Apr 08 22:40:02 that should not cause problems in theory right Apr 08 22:40:44 uhh, why would it? Apr 08 22:41:07 I'm not even sure what you imagine the relevance of this usb hub is Apr 08 22:41:12 i dunno not sure what else it could be I shared my wifi connection with the board that was sufficent last time i was doing this Apr 08 22:41:27 what do you mean by "with the board" ? Apr 08 22:41:36 you need to share it with the ethernet interface specifically Apr 08 22:42:47 right i am in windows 11 I see my wifi and I have another ethernet connection which I shared the wifi with Apr 08 22:42:57 that is all I had to do previously and I had connectivity Apr 08 22:43:05 now for some reason that is not working Apr 08 22:43:18 differences are the bullseye image Apr 08 22:43:21 well you should see two "ethernet" connections right, the usb-ethernet adapter and the bbb's usb-networking Apr 08 22:43:30 and the extra adapter Apr 08 22:43:48 ? Apr 08 22:43:59 to make it simpler i just have the usb going to wall power adapter and just the ethernet plugged in Apr 08 22:44:08 https://www.anker.com/ca/products/variant/7in1-premium-usb-c-hub-adapter/A83430A1 Apr 08 22:44:11 that usb hub Apr 08 22:44:39 there's no networking on this usb how, how or why would it show up as network interface? Apr 08 22:44:43 *usb hub Apr 08 22:45:55 it doesn't now I just have the ethernet USB GbE Family controller Apr 08 22:46:18 so you don't have the bbb connected via usb? you're able to log in via ssh via ethernet? Apr 08 22:47:08 (which I guess should indeed work even if it doesn't have a proper IP address, if link-local ipv6 works correctly on windows) Apr 08 22:47:30 right Apr 08 22:47:39 or, how were you checking things on the bbb side? Apr 08 22:47:53 I just have the ethernet cable plugged in usb powering the BBB Apr 08 22:48:04 i use putty to ssh Apr 08 22:48:10 and try and update apt Apr 08 22:48:12 to beaglebone.local ? Apr 08 22:48:14 or ping 8.8.8.8 Apr 08 22:48:17 yes Apr 08 22:48:25 that works fine Apr 08 22:48:31 cannot ping anything Apr 08 22:48:50 share output of 'ip addr' and 'networkctl status eth0' Apr 08 22:51:33 https://pastebin.com/CN83SQEA Apr 08 22:52:10 https://pastebin.com/nF79gY0Y Apr 08 22:52:45 what's on the other side of the ethernet cable? is it running an dhcp server? Apr 08 22:52:56 my laptop Apr 08 22:53:03 which is connected to wifi Apr 08 22:53:19 laptop... Windows/Mac/linux... Apr 08 22:53:27 sorry win 11 Apr 08 22:53:42 Do you have Internet Connection Sharing enabled? Apr 08 22:53:55 mattb0ne: yeah I can't draw any conclusion other than that internet sharing is not enabled correctly Apr 08 22:54:13 yeah I did that... went in shared my wifi with that connection Apr 08 22:54:20 it is just stuck on identifying Apr 08 22:54:38 the bbb is not getting an IP from your laptop Apr 08 22:54:52 ok Apr 08 22:55:03 another possible issue. not all "ethernet" ports support auto switch tx/rx... so might need a cross over ethernet vs patch cable... but isn't auto tx/rx pretty much normal now days? Apr 08 22:55:16 rcn-ee: then you wouldn't even get link up Apr 08 22:55:33 it has link up, and in fact he can ssh via ethernet (thanks to link-local ipv6 + mdns) Apr 08 22:55:49 ah perfect... so that takes it out.. Apr 08 22:56:00 (and yes, everything supports auto crossover) Apr 08 22:56:37 mattb0ne: can you make a screenshot of the internet sharing setting? Apr 08 22:56:41 or something Apr 08 22:56:47 ok Apr 08 22:57:07 is this a live debug? Apr 08 22:57:17 * set_ pays attention w/ two eyes! Apr 08 22:59:54 and a nice pointer finger! Apr 08 23:00:11 https://ibb.co/DRW7LVG Apr 08 23:01:13 mattb0ne: ehm, what's this supposed to be a screenshot of? Apr 08 23:01:28 mattb0ne: what did you configure for this... Apr 08 23:01:28 https://www.google.com/search?q=ics+share+ethernet+connection&sxsrf=APq-WBsM8uaJMA9-ywlU69CW2KnB7kfLRg:1649455252298&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&vet=1&fir=VbKrZsllVrtgCM%252Ce0CWs2p6Pn-49M%252C%252Fm%252F02yll_%253BNnrZVNKWiRa1rM%252C_bhgrB08_Lp9kM%252C_%253B2x-ZVYu8J8vvPM%252Cr6aWsEpdm7bp_M%252C_%253BhqUSVf_PdvMczM%252CLM8SDcyy2tkpqM%252C_%253BrG0KYwhgNF2bMM%252CQMOFtf7SbYBXJM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQfyr9efwco1zfhGdkkx3wLBG9CuA&sa=X&ved=2ahUK Apr 08 23:01:28 EwimjovTu4X3AhXRJzQIHSxNDPAQ_B16BAhVEAE#imgrc=2x-ZVYu8J8vvPM Apr 08 23:01:43 tries again... https://m.majorgeeks.com/content/page/enable_disable_internet_connection_sharing.html Apr 08 23:01:54 (the home networking connection) Apr 08 23:01:55 connection details Apr 08 23:02:05 mattb0ne: I asked specifically about internet *sharing* Apr 08 23:04:47 that is what did rcn-ee Apr 08 23:05:08 i pretty much followed what was in rcn-ee's link. there really is just a check box Apr 08 23:05:44 nothing else? did windows 11 change what it looks like again? Apr 08 23:05:48 wait.. is it Windows 11 Home? Apr 08 23:05:59 mattb0ne: and then selected the ethernet interface from the popup? Apr 08 23:06:10 (haven't upgraded any Windows 10 test machine to 11 yet..) Apr 08 23:06:10 yeah win 11 home Apr 08 23:06:17 wonders... windows 11 home... Apr 08 23:06:40 I got Win 11 now! I can help. Apr 08 23:06:52 Plug me in and watch me go. Apr 08 23:07:01 So, what should I do first? Apr 08 23:07:06 well it does not have the pop up in there to select. but I can click the check box. If I have the usb connected as well I have three connections and I would have the drop down presented Apr 08 23:07:27 set_: see if you can share your internet connection with your BBB Apr 08 23:07:38 (via ethernet) Apr 08 23:07:51 wow, windows finally caught up to debian on release versions? Apr 08 23:08:43 mattb0ne: well, everything (both the output on the bbb side as well as the properties screenshot you showed from windows) confirms that the internet sharing just isn't working Apr 08 23:09:03 so the options for that are basically it's either not configured right or it's broken Apr 08 23:10:41 Looks like they changed the gui... https://youtu.be/1lWMRh-UMto?t=56 Apr 08 23:11:38 rcn-ee: looks same to me? Apr 08 23:11:49 the drop down is gone.. ;) Apr 08 23:11:53 https://pureinfotech.com/share-internet-connection-windows-10/ Apr 08 23:11:58 apart from the popup, which mattb0ne says only shows up if there are actually multiple choices Apr 08 23:13:29 so frustrating Apr 08 23:13:38 all this effort to get a working pyqtgraph Apr 08 23:13:49 any chance it is the image Apr 08 23:13:51 mattb0ne: yeah it's weird that it doesn't just work Apr 08 23:13:52 no Apr 08 23:14:02 ok Apr 08 23:14:11 you didn't do any weird settings on the ethernet interface? Apr 08 23:14:14 if you got wifi, why can't you stick a random wifi dongle in it.. Apr 08 23:14:23 done. Apr 08 23:14:26 It shares. Apr 08 23:14:29 Oh. Apr 08 23:14:32 what did you do Apr 08 23:14:41 rcn-ee: well, random wifi dongles are kinda hit-or-miss on linux Apr 08 23:15:00 Striking out with Windows. ;) Apr 08 23:15:10 Oh. you mean for internet sharing by USB w/out WiFi dongle? Apr 08 23:15:12 i did try putting something in etc/network/interfaces Apr 08 23:15:18 mattb0ne: please don't Apr 08 23:15:21 lol Apr 08 23:15:45 hint, hint. I saw something. Apr 08 23:15:53 mattb0ne: that newer image uses systemd-networkd... classic etc/networking/intefaces just makes things more fun.. (legacy) Apr 08 23:16:02 Oh. Apr 08 23:16:03 rcn-ee: why not remove ifupdown entirely? Apr 08 23:16:05 I deleted Apr 08 23:16:10 now it is blank Apr 08 23:16:16 I got what you guys are doing. Dealing w/ older images/kernels? Apr 08 23:16:23 what is weird is I do not even get a time out Apr 08 23:16:23 set_: no Apr 08 23:16:25 and ip route Apr 08 23:16:27 is blank Apr 08 23:16:33 mattb0ne: timeout of what? Apr 08 23:16:49 192.168.6.0/24 dev usb1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.6.2 Apr 08 23:16:59 actually this is what ip route has Apr 08 23:17:17 192.168.7.2 is for Win. Apr 08 23:17:22 That is for Linux. Apr 08 23:17:25 That's teh usb gadget driver... Apr 08 23:17:26 mattb0ne: your ethernet interface didn't get any IPv4 address from your PC, hence there's also no route Apr 08 23:17:30 Oh. Apr 08 23:17:48 What. You guys are just pluggin' in and nothing works? Apr 08 23:17:51 mattb0ne: but even the PC side of the network configuration looks wrong Apr 08 23:18:18 Is this a specific image I should know about currently? Apr 08 23:18:34 mattb0ne: it should pick some IP range to use (from which it can hand out IP addresses), your screenshot showed it hadn't done that Apr 08 23:18:44 set_: nah this is a Windows-side issue Apr 08 23:18:50 Get rid of bone- and use am335x-. I had multiple...oh. Apr 08 23:19:38 I don't know how to debug this, Windows networking is pretty opaque to me Apr 08 23:20:02 and it's windows 11... I know Windows 10's works.. Apr 08 23:20:14 like, a simple checkbox "and voila it works!" is great... except when it doesn't work Apr 08 23:20:47 yeah I think when I was doing this I had win 10 Apr 08 23:20:48 Did someone pay those people at Kitware or whatever they are called these days for pyqt? Apr 08 23:20:51 got to love microsoft Apr 08 23:22:10 Anyway, things change in their organization currently and a lot I noticed. One day, PyQt_blah_blah works well b/c of one of the functions and then they change it. So, importing PyQt_blah_blah does not do what it once did. Apr 08 23:24:26 I think it is called Security/Hardening. Apr 08 23:24:27 ok Apr 08 23:24:38 got a old laptop with Win10 home Apr 08 23:24:44 see if just MS broke something Apr 08 23:25:11 Me? Apr 08 23:25:21 Or you? Apr 08 23:25:35 mattb00ne: is the ethernet interface set to "Private" ? https://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Make-Network-Private-or-Public-in-Windows-11.png Apr 08 23:25:46 dunno if that has any influence Apr 08 23:25:49 but it's worth a shot Apr 08 23:26:05 If they are private, sharing is still possible. Apr 08 23:26:26 I meant making sure it's set to Private and not Public Apr 08 23:26:36 Oh. Apr 08 23:26:50 it's a long shot anyway Apr 08 23:27:06 but like I said, I'm finding almost nothing about internet connection sharing on windows 11 Apr 08 23:27:19 lol it worked Apr 08 23:27:41 \o/ Apr 08 23:27:47 YOu have to be jokening me? Apr 08 23:27:48 what did? ;) take a screen shot! and post it! ;) Apr 08 23:27:53 Yes! Apr 08 23:28:07 did the same steps in win 10 home and it worked fine Apr 08 23:28:12 ahh Apr 08 23:28:17 ahh.. Apr 08 23:28:19 now i ran sudo update Apr 08 23:28:26 Oh. Apr 08 23:28:27 and i am getting release file is not valid yet Apr 08 23:28:42 clock is off.. Apr 08 23:28:55 system date didn't sync yet apparently Apr 08 23:29:00 I got the hint. Apr 08 23:29:06 have fun! Apr 08 23:29:10 bbl! Apr 08 23:29:12 what do you mean Apr 08 23:29:25 I'd expect systemd-timesyncd to fix that once the connection comes up, assuming it's enabled Apr 08 23:29:41 oh oh Apr 08 23:29:47 I just fixed that https://forum.beagleboard.org/t/debian-11-x-bullseye-monthly-snapshots/31280/5?u=robertcnelson Debian's dev split out systemd-timesyncd from systemd only caught it a few days ago.. Apr 08 23:30:25 Just do: `sudo date --set="2022-04-08"` to get in the ball park.. Apr 08 23:31:35 and then "sudo apt update", which should work successfully, and then "sudo apt install systemd-timesyncd" Apr 08 23:31:56 i still have some that are less than a day out Apr 08 23:32:05 ? Apr 08 23:32:06 20h 13h etc Apr 08 23:32:23 some what? Apr 08 23:32:28 ah utc time... do '09'.. vs '08'... Apr 08 23:32:58 I mean, the date being off by a day shouldn't matter to be able to do apt update Apr 08 23:33:12 just close enough for it to not complain Apr 08 23:33:17 sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata used to work. Ha. Apr 08 23:33:17 that's the goal.. Apr 08 23:33:38 Now, I cannot tell the BBB the truth any longer. Apr 08 23:33:48 https://pastebin.com/KsAgSxNm Apr 08 23:34:00 ohh maybe being off by a day can matter indeed, Apr 08 23:34:01 yeah, that Apr 08 23:34:04 lol Apr 08 23:34:07 stuff signed today Apr 08 23:34:20 so how do I set the clock to get around that Apr 08 23:35:03 rcn-ee says to use sudo date --set="some_date" Apr 08 23:35:19 If you lost connection as some of us do... Apr 08 23:35:20 sudo date --utc --set='2022-04-08 10:35' Apr 08 23:36:31 once systemd-timesyncd is installed it should take care of this automatically in the future (as long as there's an internet connection) Apr 08 23:37:05 Oh. Latest-Greatest again? I tried the last images supported already and failed. I could not figure it out either. Apr 08 23:37:18 Good on you guys. Keep it up! Apr 08 23:37:52 * set_ bows out for now b/c I say enthusiasm is next to blah... Apr 08 23:38:18 ok now it works Apr 08 23:40:49 finally Apr 08 23:42:09 as always thanks for the assist. I hate networking Apr 08 23:44:08 Yes! Another satisfied network. Apr 08 23:51:42 what are you up to these days Apr 08 23:52:24 set_ Apr 08 23:54:20 Oh. Apr 08 23:54:39 Me, nothing much. 3D Printing, Lasers, and non-networking stuff. Apr 08 23:54:53 I like motors still. Apr 08 23:55:12 I was going to try something else but it is like LEDs are motors. So, why not have both? Apr 08 23:55:28 I mean... Apr 08 23:55:46 They are not exactly the same but they both listen to the same peripheral tech. Apr 08 23:56:22 For instance, I can tell the LED to do things. The motor listens just the same but w/ movement instead of light. Apr 08 23:57:04 Light is nice. I like light. But motors are more rewarding to me. The movement and dance of it all makes me feel warm inside. Apr 08 23:57:33 Like yes. I just commanded you damn motors. Now, obey to the source and dance, dance, dance. Apr 08 23:58:09 It is like an old western movie where the dude from the city thinks he is hot stuff. Then, the country fellow says w/ his weapon to dance. Apr 08 23:58:18 Well, not exactly but close and now w/ source! Apr 08 23:59:07 mattb00ne: I was going to try other things like more programming of the motors but that takes an enormous amount of time. I cannot do everything. Apr 08 23:59:37 Luckily, some person or his group of people that are close to him/her/whomever makes it done and i can add if necessary. Apr 09 00:00:42 Outside of that, I made a nice sinter and a horrible nut via 3D printing. Apr 09 00:01:11 Bragging...no. Done did it again...yes. All for fun...priceless. Apr 09 00:01:44 Now, if I can only chat w/ this fellow about fixing his gate. It has an IR sensor and 12v motor. Apr 09 00:02:05 That would be a nice start for me and this BBB fiasco I invested in! Apr 09 00:02:39 Fiasco...like in a good way. Not as though it is detrimental to my health or others. Apr 09 00:03:03 Well, there you have it. In a nutshell! Apr 09 00:04:54 Speakin' of BBBs, where are they now? Apr 09 00:05:03 Send guidance! Apr 09 00:07:02 Hello? Apr 09 00:07:10 echo, echo, echo! Apr 09 00:07:30 is wayland better than xserver Apr 09 00:08:56 No/yes/maybe. I think the other fellows will have a more precise answer. Apr 09 00:19:19 I would say wayland is better now b/c it is what is available for beginners like me on Debian 11 Bullseye. Apr 09 00:19:55 For instance, I would not need to make, cmake, ./configure, or whatever a binary installed and updated constantly by me. Apr 09 00:20:26 So, simply put, it is easier for me and that entitles me to say, "better", is yes. Apr 09 00:29:44 mattb00ne: Are you there in userland w/ a keyboard still? If so, do not reply to me. I am a tell-all! Apr 09 00:30:31 I will tell you things that only I know you want to here. Buy more BBBs. Apr 09 00:30:33 ha. Apr 09 00:30:47 Speakin' of BBBs, where are they now? Apr 09 00:31:24 * set_ forgets to stay patient. Sorry again I am, again, and again... Apr 09 00:51:37 Just to say, the new blog post rules. Compare and Contrast and more! Apr 09 01:00:46 I like how you guys desribe things. Not just throw me under the bus. It is a community of a shared intent! BBB/AI/etc that people are familiar w/ currently and can now use their Capes or homemade Capes w/ both SoCs. BBBW, where are you? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 09 02:59:56 2022