**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 18 02:59:57 2022 Aug 18 09:07:57 @zmatt PRU isn't something Ti wants to support allededly? https://forum.beagleboard.org/t/question-is-ai-64-currently-shipping-with-production-processor-and-no-pru/32370/3 Aug 18 09:08:46 yeah they did the same nonsense before.... it was in the AM335x TRM, then they took it out, then under pressure it got published separately, and eventually it was reintegrated into the TRM Aug 18 09:09:31 I don't know why they keep being silly about this, PRUSS is one of the best features of their SoCs Aug 18 09:56:59 hello, i just want normal raspberry pi node red on beaglebone so please can you tell me how to reinstall it ? Aug 18 10:00:28 wtf is "normal raspberry pi node red" ? isn't node red just... node red? Aug 18 10:01:42 well, i think no xD becaeuse not even command node-red is not working on beaglebone Aug 18 10:02:38 what would that do? I'm not very familiar with node-red, but isn't it entirely used via a web gui ? Aug 18 10:03:49 I see there's a node-red command as part of the package, it's just not in PATH by default Aug 18 10:04:06 yes but i have to confige it in some manner and almost everything is done by command node-red but that does not work on beaglebone but i have tried it on RP4 and there it does work so Aug 18 10:06:06 but i think i just might get it working by command node-red-pi Aug 18 10:06:59 there's a systemd service file /lib/systemd/system/nodered.service (and associated .socket file) that is used to start node-red at boot, and there's config there Aug 18 10:07:55 of course you're also entirely free to just remove the package (sudo apt-get purge bb-node-red-installer) and install node-red using npm instead Aug 18 10:08:11 I don't know the differences Aug 18 10:09:08 it looks to me like the beaglebone package is just the normal node-red wrapped in a systemd service to start it at boot Aug 18 10:09:32 yes we figured out eventually, but thanks for help Aug 18 10:09:39 see also https://nodered.org/docs/getting-started/beaglebone Aug 18 10:10:15 yes, i know about that but thanks Aug 18 10:10:28 now i will go to do my configuration thanks Aug 18 10:11:00 bye Aug 18 10:45:31 @zmatt do you think it would be reasonable to assume the AM335x PRUs are similar enough that the AM335x docs would be a good enough starting point for the tda4vm? Aug 18 10:47:57 mayab: afaik it's backwards compatible with the am572x pruss which itself is mostly backwards compatible with the am335x pruss (with IEP being the only exception, its register layout changed from the 32-bit IEP to 64-bit IEP) but the tda4vm pruss is hugely more complex Aug 18 10:48:35 the backwards compatible is encouraging at least Aug 18 10:48:47 (and one would hope for some evolution with time so ...) Aug 18 10:49:07 tda4vm pruss has 6 pru cores, versus only 2 pru cores in the am335x/am572x pruss Aug 18 10:49:43 why'd I think it only had 2 ... probably from the original bb-ai Aug 18 10:52:12 the PRUSS described in chapter 6.5 of https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruid7e/spruid7e.pdf is closer to that of the tda4vm Aug 18 10:52:47 14k pages of joy Aug 18 10:52:58 thanks for the ink Aug 18 10:53:00 *link Aug 18 10:53:20 this SoC is like, one generation before the tda4vm Aug 18 11:07:25 right Aug 18 21:11:48 GenTooMan: Are you around? Aug 18 21:12:15 I got 2GB of video for you to review. Mowing in the first person... Aug 18 21:12:34 I never thought I would do it. I done up and done did it. Aug 18 21:12:53 It is processing now. Just wait. Aug 18 21:13:12 You can see the slum of America in first person! Aug 18 21:13:28 Louisiana style! Aug 18 21:17:44 set_ I am not round, I'm actually quite skinny. Aug 18 21:20:30 Skinny in da' house! Aug 18 21:20:55 Processing on something or other at a very slow rate. Aug 18 21:21:04 as we type! Aug 18 21:21:29 18% on a .mp4. Aug 18 21:21:53 Rattle and shake me down, I think I got a new game. Aug 18 21:22:23 Instead of first person tractor, first person mower. Aug 18 21:22:37 he walked until the end, Ned! Aug 18 21:23:31 "No water, no grass, just mower!" Aug 18 21:25:26 And then, some imbicile came into my garage and jacked w/ my mower. Now, I cannot move backwards. Aug 18 21:25:37 Family. Blah. Aug 18 21:26:23 Anyway, I am going to try to understand rattle effects now and see where it takes me. Aug 18 21:26:38 * GenTooMan won't repeat what some people say about family. Aug 18 21:26:43 I may be able to inc. in the BBB or other famous board. Aug 18 21:26:48 %&%&^*% ? Aug 18 21:27:14 it's so bad it's unprintable unrepeatable and might get people arrested? :D Aug 18 21:27:22 Aw. Aug 18 21:27:39 Yea. My family, your family, and everyone elses' families are to blame. Aug 18 21:27:46 Hey. Aug 18 21:27:47 as my grandmother would say "I don't know anyone in the family that was hung but a few that should have been" Aug 18 21:28:19 Most of everyone I know, not including me of course, should be prissy in the pen. Aug 18 21:28:21 Ha. Aug 18 21:28:23 Just kiddin'. Aug 18 21:29:01 GenTooMan: are you ready to witness the mower at its finest? Aug 18 21:29:13 26% finished! Aug 18 21:29:35 as long as the lawn is kept clean cut it's OK :D Aug 18 21:29:42 ha. Aug 18 21:29:47 It has been! It has been. Aug 18 21:30:15 Yard cututh w/ my spinnin' blades, matey. Aug 18 21:30:41 America is odd now, i.e. no one plays outside any longer. Aug 18 21:31:01 I have been outside for the last three hours. One person drove by and littered. Aug 18 21:32:01 Yard, clean kept. Video, processing. Me, not picking up the litter in the street (today). Aug 18 21:32:35 * set_ yards be b/t the houses! Aug 18 21:33:17 I am on 31 minutes of the video. And yep. it just ended. Aug 18 21:33:21 I wonder what happened. Aug 18 21:33:34 Maybe the jitters? Aug 18 21:35:27 littering is what a base ball cannon is designed to fix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqidD7kVnxY Aug 18 21:35:59 And video. yes. Aug 18 21:36:12 I used potato guns before but not baseballs. Aug 18 21:36:12 oh you should like this guys odd channel https://www.youtube.com/c/StephenHawesVideo/videos Aug 18 21:36:24 Hopefully, off to look! Aug 18 21:36:38 super sonic baseball looses it's cover Aug 18 21:41:34 GenTooMan: I lied. I went outside again. I am sorry. I will look now! Aug 18 21:48:27 well the super sonic baseball cannon really would put more than just a dent in the person vehicle but might get you arrested. Then again littering is also a criminal offence in most states. Aug 18 21:49:51 Yes. Aug 18 21:49:53 and... Aug 18 21:49:55 Yes. Aug 18 21:49:58 Nice video. Aug 18 21:50:12 I am just past the build montage. Aug 18 21:51:43 First shot down the gully. Aug 18 21:52:49 wait tell you see things being shot with it ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAOCiNhQW2Y Aug 18 21:56:23 anyone know if this is a reputable distributor of beagleboard ai-64? it is the only place I found in stock https://www.alliedelec.com/product/beagleboard/102110646/73466756/ Aug 18 22:05:10 I saw the baseball at mach + one. Aug 18 22:07:04 It is hard to believe he pulled that one off. I am sure his nerves were filtrating at when he unlocked the push button. Aug 18 22:07:43 It was funny to see them not coherently chat nonsense when the first mach baseball hit its orbit. Aug 18 22:08:17 EdwardCromwell: Hello! Aug 18 22:08:50 alliedelec sells them from what I saw earlier. They sell beagleboard.org related items from what I have seen. Aug 18 22:09:04 I saw them w/ inventory before today. Aug 18 22:12:05 Ok sounds good. I have placed an order for the AI-64 from them. Couldn't find it anywhere else Aug 18 22:12:17 thank you set_ Aug 18 22:13:06 EdwardCromwell: Before... Aug 18 22:13:47 Before you place the order, I usually only use the distributors from the BBAI-64 site. I say that b/c they usually have more in stock. Aug 18 22:13:59 I did, they are all sold out for USA distribution Aug 18 22:14:08 beagleboard.org has a...oh. Aug 18 22:14:08 it seems Europe and Singapore still have in-stock Aug 18 22:14:15 Hmm. Aug 18 22:14:23 Are you in the US? Aug 18 22:14:33 Yup I had to place from a distributor here Aug 18 22:14:53 Aw. Okay, me too. Anyway, I think AlliedElec is from the US too. Aug 18 22:15:08 yeah alliedelec is the only one I found selling it for the US market Aug 18 22:15:19 however they are charging $20 more than the distributors listed on beagleboard.org Aug 18 22:15:27 i guess since I can't find it anywhere else right now, $20 is ok. Aug 18 22:15:37 Oh. Aug 18 22:16:15 That is crud. I think there should be more in stock one day. They usually allow for sign up via email of a notification for inventory. Aug 18 22:16:19 Like, mouser or digikey. Aug 18 22:16:33 they say they are backordered until november :( Aug 18 22:16:36 i just didnt want to wait Aug 18 22:16:58 Oh. Gotcha. Okay, I will check it out. Who knows? I may find another one! Aug 18 22:17:25 Oh yea. Aug 18 22:17:31 I remember these people. Aug 18 22:17:38 set_, their is a world wide IC deficiency if you didn't realize and TI is one of the most backed up manufacturers in the world. Some parts are 116weeks before delivery. Aug 18 22:18:03 I tried to purchase a cathode from them. Aug 18 22:18:16 GenTooMan: I know already. Sheesh. Give me some credit. Aug 18 22:18:32 * GenTooMan gives set_ some cents. Aug 18 22:18:40 Pennies in the house! Aug 18 22:19:04 Those BBAI-64 boards sold quickly. Aug 18 22:19:28 yes but further they don't have more parts for them likely. Aug 18 22:19:37 GenTooMan: Do you think that fellow from the video had to get clearance from the city? Aug 18 22:19:39 Aw. Aug 18 22:19:57 set_, he lives on a farm last I checked. Aug 18 22:20:01 I heard him say, "Crazy." That may mean...oh. Aug 18 22:20:14 Farms. Nice places. Aug 18 22:20:24 great for doing "interesting experiments" :D Aug 18 22:20:29 Right! Aug 18 22:20:44 But then in the end, the field needs mowing. Aug 18 22:21:04 85% Aug 18 22:21:10 not exactly ... it gets cut not mowed. Aug 18 22:21:32 I understand. Aug 18 22:21:35 you use a completely different type of equipment for a field than you do for a lawn. Aug 18 22:21:43 Sometimes. Aug 18 22:21:45 also far more dangerous Aug 18 22:21:53 Rotary! Aug 18 22:22:09 no ... it's a massive array of sheers. Aug 18 22:22:14 Oh. Aug 18 22:22:16 Those. Aug 18 22:22:23 What are those called? Aug 18 22:22:28 Reapers? Aug 18 22:22:49 I will check. Aug 18 22:23:06 Oh! Did you see the guy that hacked John Deere to make Doom work on the console? Aug 18 22:23:12 yeah but they use those because you aren't shredding the grass you are cutting it so that it lays flat and dries. Aug 18 22:23:42 set_, yeah.. John Deer CEO needs to be fired not asked to resign, just plain fired. Aug 18 22:24:40 Right. Now...right. Aug 18 22:24:54 But, who knows in the ranks what happened? Aug 18 22:24:59 well it would have been better a few years back. Aug 18 22:25:21 he can complain to the security team all day. Aug 18 22:25:59 I told you, hashes not ?'s. Aug 18 22:26:10 well in any case ethics are important, and for some reason he lacked all of them. Aug 18 22:26:46 Oh. New ideals and new people. It happens. I saw awesome Chevy/GMC/GM go from glory to story. Aug 18 22:28:37 Well, I think the parts business is, like you say, hit hard and the new parts for these bememoth trucks are not as cheap. Aug 18 22:28:59 It is not an excuse for a $65,000 truck in 2018. Aug 18 22:29:17 I could have got a jaguar! Aug 18 22:29:55 * set_ goes in a low hole in time for not getting suped up jags. Aug 18 22:30:16 95% Aug 18 22:30:17 the cheap john deer stuff is in the mid 100k range. The expensive stuff is 7 digits range. Aug 18 22:30:53 Right. The fellow that moved offices and thinks I am okay w/ it moved near a sugar cane field. Aug 18 22:30:54 so 300k cheap 90M expensive Aug 18 22:31:03 Lots of big machines. Aug 18 22:31:09 No wonder they act broke! Aug 18 22:31:39 the customers are pretty pissed about it to the point they are actually building their own stuff now. Aug 18 22:31:56 John Deere has anyways been an expensive brand to own. Aug 18 22:31:58 ! Aug 18 22:32:30 I bet. No one wants doom when sugar cane is at hand! Aug 18 22:32:46 I would be P'od. Aug 18 22:33:34 I once lived in the country where there was "a" stop light. Aug 18 22:33:50 I brought a city girl to the country. She says, "Wow, look at all this corn!" Aug 18 22:34:10 i was like, yea-yea, sugar cane. Corn, whatever. Aug 18 22:34:12 heh corn-a-copia! Aug 18 22:34:12 It is done! Aug 18 22:34:43 actually corn is related to sugar can, and that's why you get corn syrup. Aug 18 22:36:18 Aw. Aug 18 22:36:50 Hmm...I never thought of it that way. Whelp, this darn storm is almost over. I can breathe easy again. Aug 18 22:37:26 So, it has some compounds that are similar? Aug 18 22:38:24 It is uploading to the Youtube now. They will most likely say too long. We shall see. Aug 18 22:40:28 I am going to put this darn mowing video on my website! Aug 18 22:40:37 Here: https://clipchamp.com/watch/Uh3e5GvsEQ5 Aug 18 22:40:44 Wavy Navy! Aug 18 22:46:38 processing. Blah. Aug 18 22:48:50 I need a dampner. Aug 18 22:49:20 It looks like the cam was holding on for dear life. Aug 18 22:51:29 Hey...is the gpiozero an official BBB related lib. now? I mean, did someone add it to the repos? Aug 18 22:51:57 I just think I did not add it to my board. This is the cause of my question. Aug 18 22:53:22 I am going to make some pan and tilt action one day. Boring and stuck is the camera for now... Aug 18 22:53:35 Maybe some linear slide? Aug 18 23:43:40 GenTooMan: Look now! It is working! Aug 18 23:44:09 Boring or mowingly intended? Aug 18 23:45:20 The mower needs a tune up. Aug 18 23:46:38 At one point, I run into the castle of a flower bed. Aug 18 23:47:17 it still says "We’re processing this video, check back soon!" Aug 18 23:49:05 Dang it. Aug 18 23:49:21 I am watching the boring video now. Hmm. Let me check. Aug 18 23:49:46 YOu are right. Blah. Aug 19 00:06:29 Sorry. This is taking forever to upload. I downloaded it off the cam and then uploaded it three times. No issue. Sorry again. Aug 19 00:12:35 LOL mm you may be dealing with crap encoding. Or more accurately the level of encoding my have made the file larger. Aug 19 00:16:35 yeppers. most likely...applications. Aug 19 00:18:18 uploading w/ my bandwidth. blah Aug 19 00:19:28 five more hours **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 19 02:59:57 2022