**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 16 02:59:56 2022 Dec 16 03:03:43 whats the current lightest-weight official *nix image that can go on a beagle bone black? openbsd seems straightforward but lacks USB support. alpine is more complicated than i'd like in terms of building/installing on eMMC Dec 16 03:06:05 basically my requirements are: ethernet, emmc, official image, package manager Dec 16 03:41:54 bullseye Dec 16 03:42:29 There is a forum.beagleboard.org and if you search their website, there are images under the search bullseye Dec 16 03:43:07 I will go and find the link. Dec 16 03:44:35 if you scroll down, minimal is what is the smallest version for the BBB: https://forum.beagleboard.org/t/debian-11-x-bullseye-monthly-snapshots/31280 Dec 16 03:45:16 That is official (I think). Dec 16 03:46:47 It has apt, it is official (I think), you can always use the command to flash to the eMMC, and it has Ethernet available even w/ the minimal image. Dec 16 03:49:41 I think the command is enable-beagle-flasher if my memory serves me correct. You might need to use sudo but I am not sure of it. I usually just try SD Cards for now. Dec 16 04:00:34 10:00 Dec 16 04:00:37 * set_ argh! Dec 16 04:18:16 i tried the official images from openbsd and alpine, and they just went in boot loops Dec 16 04:18:23 will try your linked image Dec 16 04:21:38 these unofficial images have kernels not built by debian Dec 16 04:21:56 are there any distros that are officially compiled by the project and also work? Dec 16 04:23:03 Oh. Dec 16 04:23:41 Debian I think is the only "official" builds so far or now. Dec 16 04:24:14 i mean i want an image that is not built by beaglebord.org Dec 16 04:24:14 I think the am335x on the BBB and Debian have become good buds. So, since it just works, it is nice to use. Dec 16 04:24:20 Oh! Dec 16 04:24:24 Sorry. Dec 16 04:24:29 I misunderstood. Dec 16 04:25:46 No official images from me, so far. I think debian and there may be a few people requesting ubuntu. But, as for not beagleboard.org, sorry. I know nothing for now about the images available for the am335x. Dec 16 04:26:17 alright Dec 16 04:26:20 I completely misunderstood what you were requesting. I am sorry. Dec 16 04:26:34 Please wait around. I am sure someone built something. Dec 16 04:41:37 for reference: have not tested the beagleboard.org image, will test. this is the error i get on debian, official debian.org image. similar error on alpine linux and it boot loops at the same time on openbsd so probably same thing. https://paste.debian.net/plainh/487494ae Dec 16 04:47:20 Hello Again...I was building images and failed many times. I have learned some but not enough, i.e. hence the reason I passed this on to the next person and/or people but! Dec 16 04:48:03 Are you building w/ ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- ? Dec 16 04:49:57 I ask b/c I see in the building, there is a line that shows the efi. Is that a line for uefi? Dec 16 04:50:58 arch? Dec 16 04:54:28 Or are you trying w/ GRUB? Dec 16 04:55:14 i'm not building. these are the official images from the debian project, the openbsd project, and alphine linux project. this is how it errors out and bootloops on openbsd https://paste.debian.net/plainh/ca03b540 Dec 16 04:56:09 Oh. Dec 16 04:56:40 Okay, I think Buster and onwards, Arm64 is needed to handle efi. Dec 16 04:58:49 If trying beforehand w/ something like an older release, 32-bit works w/ efi but you still need a bootloader. Dec 16 05:00:13 All Debian is willing to release are these statements: https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path Dec 16 05:00:29 That used to work. I do not think it works any longer. Dec 16 05:03:08 First, we need to know what UEFI spec. we are working on. Dec 16 05:03:19 Then, moving forward is easier. Dec 16 05:11:11 I think this is where people make a mistake. They build and then the notes get trashed. There is a uefi spec. online w/ tons of tools. I think this tool(s) section(s) could show what to do. bootp is a way to understand if one can make it that far. I think u-boot uses it so the boards w/ the am335x can boot, i.e. amongst the many. Dec 16 05:14:55 I know answers are better than work. Okay. I do not have a straight answer for this question. I will go and look again. Dec 16 05:16:29 Try mmcblk0 or mmcblk0p1 or whatever they use now? Dec 16 05:17:30 I saw in the beginning of your paste that you are using a removable drive. Dec 16 05:18:38 Try to use a installed drive... Then you can add it to any removable drive... like w/ dd or whatever tool. Dec 16 05:18:43 i resolved it Dec 16 05:18:48 What? Dec 16 05:18:50 Nice. Dec 16 05:18:56 i updated uboot using the image you linked to and now openbsd works Dec 16 05:19:02 didn't try alpine yet Dec 16 05:19:06 Awesome! Dec 16 05:19:15 thanks for your help Dec 16 05:19:18 Off to Georgia! Dec 16 05:19:22 You are welcome. Dec 16 05:46:47 I am back from Georgia! What happened? Dec 16 06:51:08 at grub, appending the following to the linux/kernel line doesn't have any function. what's going on? console=ttyS0,115200n8 Dec 16 10:12:08 * set_ says, "Watch me do it again!" Dec 16 10:12:56 I cannot get the darn BBBlue to fly. Why in the world would I put such a marvelous piece of machinery to flight. B/C! Dec 16 10:13:42 So close yet so far. I know it is breathing under my desk. I know it. It is just waiting to come about for glory. BBBlue! Dec 16 10:15:13 One day, the receiver powers via GPIO and then on another day... Dec 16 10:15:25 The header does nothing b/c of a specific image. Dec 16 10:15:53 Wait. What? Oh well. I will calm down now. Too early and too much infographical info. Dec 16 10:20:21 The instructions are plain and simple. I will give it to the creators of such an idea. Then, there are 5000+ pages on ArduPilot ideas. Dec 16 10:20:32 If before this then that. If after this then this. Dec 16 10:20:38 Aw. Dec 16 10:20:43 Sorry. Too early. Dec 16 10:25:29 Aw. reading! Off to learn sa' mo'. Dec 16 10:58:34 So, I think i figured it out but too late. Dec 16 10:59:05 The ArduPilot source needs to be using Linux and the BBBlue as a chat medium to handle the source. Dec 16 11:00:42 So, what I always knew was right, no matter how terrible I am at admitting it, is correct. It basically shoves the data to/from the RX/TX via the BBBlue and Linux but via radio button as a calibration. Blah. I am probably wrong. Dec 16 11:01:33 Anyway... Dec 16 11:01:44 I need to figure out some more! Dec 16 11:15:04 Okay...does a gpio onboard the am335x and BBBlue power the Servo Headers still? Dec 16 11:30:13 Or...would I need to do other stuff? Dec 16 12:27:30 Building w/out a background is not easy. Things are missing and misplaced. Blah. Dec 16 12:27:41 Off to the worksite! Dec 16 13:18:56 set_: you can get anything to fly if you have enough thrust.... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=christmas+tree+rocket Dec 16 21:48:09 Yea. A understanding, young gent could. Me, blah. Dec 16 21:48:29 I could not fly a rocket to my toes. It seems. Dec 16 21:49:01 Just think of this idea. Dec 16 21:49:14 me, flying BBBlues and Louisiana! What could go wrong? Dec 16 21:49:33 All jokes aside, off to view the youtube. Dec 16 21:50:33 I am very scared of labels and stereotypes. Dec 16 21:51:01 Is it really a Christmas Tree Rocket or a Holiday Boom-Yaka? Dec 16 21:54:13 anyway...bbl. This guy said and I quote, "Rake my yard." I am a full fledged idiot. Laugh all you want, my BBBlue and flying deserves me. Dec 17 02:15:17 I made it back. Can I say, thank you for making something like the BBB? Dec 17 02:25:50 I built an image! Now, will it boot? Who knows...trying on a weekend sounds like good fun! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 17 02:59:56 2022