**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 04 02:59:56 2008 Apr 04 22:46:11 has anyone tried enabling telnet in the march 20 firmware? Apr 04 22:46:23 yes Apr 04 22:46:28 well, i tell a small lie Apr 04 22:46:35 did it work ok for you? Apr 04 22:46:41 I enabled it in rc.local, which means it is enabled for ALL firmwares Apr 04 22:46:56 i.e. survives a f/w upgrade Apr 04 22:47:07 that's clever Apr 04 22:47:15 thank eric for that idea Apr 04 22:47:27 rc.local - in the flash? Apr 04 22:47:50 yes, it is in /tmp/config which is stored in one of the 2 flash banks on reboot Apr 04 22:47:52 Thanks Eric - if you're listening Apr 04 22:48:16 to get rc.local saved, you use wizremote to do a reboot Apr 04 22:48:41 (maybe simply adding a timer or something might do the same, dunno) Apr 04 22:49:22 I have to go through the whole process again anyway Apr 04 22:49:38 so I'll start by putting the previous telnet enabled firmware on Apr 04 22:49:45 i made a path change in rc.local which broke telnet though, so I downgraded to an "older style" telnet hack where it was edited in to rc.sysinit, then edited rc.local to fix my screw up Apr 04 22:49:45 then wizremote Apr 04 22:50:19 and haven't upgraded again as i am about to go away for a few weeks, and can't rely on 215 to work properly Apr 04 22:50:44 I guess you'll make the DST change Apr 04 22:50:47 before you go Apr 04 22:50:57 mind you, i can't rely on the networks to put 4400, TSCC etc on at the same time every week anyway Apr 04 22:51:29 when i get back, i am going to enhance perltgd to work with the wiz Apr 04 22:51:35 not that this is the place for it - but are you using perltgd Apr 04 22:51:41 snap Apr 04 22:51:44 hehe Apr 04 22:52:06 I'm working my way through it now Apr 04 22:52:47 on my nb, which works (ubuntu), but I'd like to make it work on Damn Small Linux Apr 04 22:52:51 i am trying to get timezone code into epg_uploader, i finally had a break thru yesterday that explained the pointers getting messed up, and am full steam ahead in integrating it into the time setting stuff today, so this has been taking all my time the past few weeks Apr 04 22:53:17 it doesn't have any code yet to talk wizremote protocol Apr 04 22:53:27 epg_uploader for tf or is this somethng you are doing for wiz? Apr 04 22:53:30 (perltgd i mean) Apr 04 22:53:40 epg_uploader for tf Apr 04 22:53:44 k Apr 04 22:53:54 love your work tony Apr 04 22:53:56 but i reckon it could be ported to the wiz Apr 04 22:54:26 reverse engineering the ice format is quite simple Apr 04 22:54:26 that would be awesome Apr 04 22:54:34 but is it ethical? Apr 04 22:55:15 didn't they say they were going to make an API available Apr 04 22:55:32 no Apr 04 22:55:35 who is they? Apr 04 22:55:51 beyonwiz said a timer api i think Apr 04 22:56:15 ice has a timer api, but into the ice servers for icetv remote Apr 04 22:56:46 ok Apr 04 22:56:53 that must be what I am thinking of Apr 04 22:57:48 do you have to tweak perlTGD much, or do you just let it run Apr 04 22:58:09 it took a bit of mucking about Apr 04 22:58:22 but now it is an optware package, anyone can get it going Apr 04 22:58:25 k Apr 04 22:58:38 on a slug type device Apr 04 22:59:01 it hasn't been very painful to get it going on ubuntu Apr 04 23:00:28 as to reverse engineering Apr 04 23:00:39 no, it was just because i use ice, where as jim doesn't, so i had to tweak a few channel substitutions etc, and understand what should go in the inifile and what should go in the command line Apr 04 23:01:19 I'm still on ice Apr 04 23:01:26 I guess I'll find out Apr 04 23:03:23 if there is a timer api from bw, then you wont have an ethical issue would you? Apr 04 23:04:19 no, i am not talking about timers Apr 04 23:04:28 we already have a way around that with wizremote Apr 04 23:04:36 i am talking about epg uploading Apr 04 23:05:24 ok Apr 04 23:07:12 I guess as you dont have the sc or an API, it doen't make it easy Apr 04 23:07:44 don't need it, the ice file is a single file, not encrypted, so is easy to work out the format Apr 04 23:09:03 so you would enable the ice option in the f/w, and bobs nearly your uncle. I guess the only issue is that the wiz builds that file based on tcp communication to the ice server Apr 04 23:09:26 and if that tcp comms was to fail, i am not sure if it will bother trying to read the file Apr 04 23:16:11 couldn't we edit the hosts file Apr 04 23:16:27 so it looks elsewhere? Apr 04 23:16:43 we can, but i am not going to reverse engineer the ice protocol Apr 04 23:23:20 grrr...nb battery died Apr 04 23:24:33 nb? Apr 04 23:25:30 gotta go anyway Apr 04 23:26:20 ya Apr 04 23:26:30 cya Apr 05 02:47:27 hey tony Apr 05 02:47:35 hi Apr 05 02:48:08 I though for some reason the telnet mod I did to the 20 March firmware didn't work - I was wrong Apr 05 02:48:39 i managed to get ntpclient compiled and working for the 20th march Apr 05 02:49:51 time sync? Apr 05 02:49:58 yep Apr 05 02:50:04 awesome Apr 05 02:50:22 works well enough, just need to support altering the gmt offset to fool the gui also Apr 05 02:51:08 i.e. it works fine, but can't set the gmtoffset Apr 05 02:51:50 but i have to stop dicking with that, as going away i don't want anything to go silly Apr 05 02:52:00 true Apr 05 02:52:38 will you have remote access while away? Apr 05 02:52:58 maybe, depends on if the woman lets me surf the web Apr 05 02:53:08 lol Apr 05 02:53:22 going to take putty on a usb stick Apr 05 02:53:47 have you got a hand held or smart phone? Apr 05 02:53:53 n95 Apr 05 02:53:55 yep Apr 05 02:54:13 but i would never think of telnetting from that, is there an ssh client for that, haven't looked? Apr 05 02:54:46 not sure - there is one for my imate jamin Apr 05 02:54:54 but it is cludgy to use Apr 05 02:56:14 ever heard anything about nextwave digital? Apr 05 02:56:27 no? Apr 05 02:56:36 i have an issue that roaming data charges will be huge Apr 05 02:56:53 maybe have to see if i can get a prepaid with data Apr 05 02:57:13 they could be I guess - does the n95 have wireless? (802.11b/g) Apr 05 02:57:19 yep Apr 05 02:57:52 might be some public wifi spots **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 05 02:59:57 2008