**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 04 02:59:59 2012 Mar 04 10:46:04 When does the Hackathon start? Mar 04 12:43:01 noon? eastern? i think Mar 04 12:43:13 now i need to figure out how to get enyo 2 up and running :| Mar 04 12:56:03 hmm. depends.js doesn't seem to work anymore, nor does the $LIB tag Mar 04 13:03:08 so it's called package.js, and it's not included automatically now Mar 04 13:04:45 can't get $lib to work, doesn't look like the source even references it. oh well Mar 04 13:08:21 oh dear, what will i do without Pane .. hmm. Mar 04 13:33:05 or without slidingview :| Mar 04 13:39:29 blargh Mar 04 14:08:04 damn, I don't get this. :-S Mar 04 14:22:16 yea it starts at noon Mar 04 14:23:26 yea, missing slidingpane for now is expected but unfortunate, but also missing Pane and the HFlexBox/VFlexBox is a big miss Mar 04 14:24:07 kinda need more core application layout constructs than form buttons Mar 04 14:42:35 things don't seem to operate nearly as nicely in the new ui as in the old yet Mar 04 14:43:20 really having a rough time with the layout stuff, it's giving me fits like enyo 1 did when i was new Mar 04 14:48:54 can't get repeaters to work either :S Mar 04 14:53:29 if i ship it to a touchpad or pre, my logs work, but the app never displays Mar 04 14:56:13 the samples all screw up on touchpad too Mar 04 15:35:18 did you check and see if the packager is rewiting the enyo framework location include? Mar 04 16:03:12 that was my guess but i had to take care of some other stuff before i investigated. i also don't know how to defeat that Mar 04 16:03:46 novaterm ; vi Mar 04 16:04:32 nope Mar 04 16:05:31 not re-writing it, just never getting past the card Mar 04 16:05:54 no log errors, and my kinds are being created Mar 04 16:06:28 you may need to call the PalmSystem to tell it that the app is now active? Mar 04 16:11:08 ah, yes, calling window.PalmSystem.stageReady() Mar 04 16:20:25 i guess my last problem now is that my main part of my app just doesn't render on webos Mar 04 16:33:29 hmm. wonder if I need to call something else, too. I'm occasionally getting a "error: Uncaught ReferenceError: Mojo is not defined" which looks like it's coming from somewhere internally Mar 04 17:26:39 good morning Mar 04 17:39:12 hmmm, the ustream thing is messed up? Mar 04 17:44:41 damn, the ustream chat thing SUCKS Mar 04 17:46:16 hackathon rules being announced now: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/enyo-hackathon Mar 04 17:47:01 Adora, the best-looking hackathon judge ;) Mar 04 17:49:38 lol Mar 04 17:49:46 Ugg now I have to think of something to write Mar 04 17:51:04 minego: HURRY UP, TIME'S TICKING! Mar 04 17:51:12 sugardave: I KNOW! Mar 04 17:51:28 sugardave: They really should have done this later in the day when my coffee has had a chance to kick in Mar 04 17:52:08 Hello! Mar 04 17:52:27 Just starting monitoring the IRC and will be watching http://forums.enyojs.com closely Mar 04 17:52:44 if you're in NY, you can find me in the back in the conference room that we're using for the ustream broadcast Mar 04 17:53:32 My slides are up at http://www.slideshare.net/unwiredben/enyo-hackathon-presentation Mar 04 17:54:24 hi Ben Mar 04 17:54:53 heya unwiredben! Mar 04 17:55:16 sup Mar 04 17:55:31 we've already got a judging question...would an app ported from mojo to enyo today qualify to win? Mar 04 17:55:43 I'm ok with it Mar 04 17:56:10 Yes, I'm cool with that too Mar 04 17:56:35 I agree Mar 04 17:56:38 erupnu: there you go, two out of three judges agree, so it doesn't matter what dkdsgn thinks =] Mar 04 17:56:55 seems unfair if the entries are judged based on app design Mar 04 17:57:25 Mojo to Enyo is not exactly a port and same ideas Mar 04 17:57:34 right Mar 04 17:57:36 it's a complete rewrite and complete UI overhaul Mar 04 17:57:38 repost: [09:53:35] My slides are up at http://www.slideshare.net/unwiredben/enyo-hackathon-presentation Mar 04 17:57:40 there's a lot of work involved :) Mar 04 17:57:55 I'm not saying it's not, but there's a wireframe to follow Mar 04 17:58:00 tho, I did write the Mojo one in 2 hours. Could whip up an ENyo one quickly Mar 04 17:58:24 Party!! Mar 04 17:58:28 320x480 wireframed to 1024x768 that rotates is not a wireframe to reuse my friend Mar 04 17:58:29 woo! Mar 04 17:58:43 erupnu: hahahahaha Mar 04 17:59:12 metaphorical wireframe Mar 04 17:59:15 adora: you know which app I have in mind? Mar 04 17:59:30 erupnu: I have a guess Mar 04 17:59:31 hey, we might even get the channel up to 50 people today Mar 04 17:59:47 plenty of wireframes up on the web, they're called websites :) Mar 04 18:00:01 So the "get the latest enyo" link, does it include enyo 1 and 2? Mar 04 18:00:29 Enyo 1 and 2 should be attainable from github Mar 04 18:00:42 the latest link at top of page is just Enyo 2.0b2 Mar 04 18:00:43 There's an enyo folder with examples and an enyo-2.0b2 with just the js Mar 04 18:00:49 there are links lower on enyojs.com for 1.0 Mar 04 18:00:50 hmmm Mar 04 18:00:51 heya acarback! Mar 04 18:00:56 hello my people Mar 04 18:01:05 hey acarback Mar 04 18:01:12 https://github.com/downloads/enyojs/enyo-1.0/enyo-1.0-r1.zip is the direct link Mar 04 18:02:04 BTW, we'll be featuring all the winners (and maybe even some honorable mentions) on the blog.enyojs.com weblog. Mar 04 18:04:48 ok, I'll put a few hours into this. not likely to win tho Mar 04 18:05:03 what's it going to be? Mar 04 18:06:16 I will not say in public :) Mar 04 18:06:23 well then just tell me Mar 04 18:06:26 hehe Mar 04 18:08:52 minego: NO! You is my adversary! Mar 04 18:09:07 erupnu: Yeah but... well... okay good point Mar 04 18:09:08 we friends, but today I spank you all! Mar 04 18:09:13 haha Mar 04 18:09:13 lol Mar 04 18:09:19 dundundun Mar 04 18:10:12 rules up at http://enyohackathon.com/infoChallenge.htm Mar 04 18:10:24 * scoutcamper should point derek to http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/enyojs.txt to see discussion :p Mar 04 18:10:46 thanks for the log link Mar 04 18:10:48 does Derek even know how to get on IRC? Mar 04 18:10:51 I'll tweet it Mar 04 18:10:54 hahahaha Mar 04 18:10:57 lol Mar 04 18:11:01 *grin* Hey Derek when you read the logs :) Mar 04 18:12:28 bbiab Mar 04 18:12:28 unwiredben: lmk when the other ben has added some enyo resources to the challenge page and I'll tweet it Mar 04 18:14:04 switched to my mac so i can actually get work done Mar 04 18:14:23 i don't have any dev tools on my gaming pc :) Mar 04 18:14:35 no text editor? that is hardcore! Mar 04 18:14:56 hahahahaha Mar 04 18:14:58 I'm using notepad #hardcore Mar 04 18:15:03 Question for the judges: Does the application have to be designed with responsive sizing, or could it be designed specifically for say the TouchPad or Pre 3 sizes? Mar 04 18:15:58 Andolamin: I'm no judge, but listening to the rules I would say responsive sizing is NOT a requirement (run on webOS or Chrome), but it wouldn't hurt, right? :) Mar 04 18:16:32 sugardave: True - I'll see what I can do in the timeframe Mar 04 18:18:17 Andolamin: yeah, just say what your target is in your submission Mar 04 18:18:30 Going responsive will probabyl win points for design, but you've only got four hours :) Mar 04 18:18:44 Hey guys! Mar 04 18:18:45 aim for the 1024x768 screen Mar 04 18:19:44 kesne! Mar 04 18:19:51 Alice! Mar 04 18:20:08 unwiredben: Since this is designed for mobile applications, would calculating the responsive sizing on page load only be acceptable or should it do live reformatting between phone/tablet interfaces? Mar 04 18:20:47 Side-note: If anybody needs help using Villo, feel free to ask! Mar 04 18:20:49 kesne....hmmm....that name seems familiar Mar 04 18:20:59 Hey sugardave! Mar 04 18:21:02 It's been a while Mar 04 18:21:07 hey, derek DOES know how to IRC :P Mar 04 18:21:20 hi all Mar 04 18:21:23 gah, everything I think of has non-public apis Mar 04 18:21:25 ahhahahaha. Shuddup. Mar 04 18:21:33 hi derekakessler Mar 04 18:21:34 lol Mar 04 18:22:14 minego: http://www.programmableweb.com/apilist Mar 04 18:23:09 By the way - what do you guys mean by public apis? Accessible from anywhere or doesn't require registration? Mar 04 18:23:12 sugardave: Yeah, but derekakessler is using the web IRC client, so yabutnotreally ;P Mar 04 18:23:20 hahaha Mar 04 18:23:46 andolamin: an api that any developer can access Mar 04 18:23:50 Andolamin: assuming that means that it's available to any developer to use Mar 04 18:24:27 adora: Ok - so if the site requires that the user create an account to use it, then it's still fine? Mar 04 18:24:33 as in, the opposite of a private/reserved api Mar 04 18:25:09 I've got wIRC on the Pre3 and TouchPad, but for the sake of working today, it's just simpler to do it all on the laptop. Mar 04 18:25:41 Besides, my TouchPad is busy looping Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA" video. Mar 04 18:25:47 ... Mar 04 18:25:52 yep! Mar 04 18:25:52 sure would be nice to see wIRC on the desktop.... Mar 04 18:26:02 * scoutcamper looks at PuffTheMagic Mar 04 18:26:26 sure would be nice to see Lumberjack on...anything new.... Mar 04 18:26:44 lol Mar 04 18:27:07 * sugardave has a special Lumberjack somewhere. "Damn, which one is it on?" Mar 04 18:27:35 * scoutcamper as well Mar 04 18:27:51 oh man, only 6 more to go for 50 users....we can DO it! Mar 04 18:27:59 Hi from Pivotal in NYC! Mar 04 18:28:05 hi digitalelph Mar 04 18:28:16 sugardave, dont count ChanServ. its a cheater Mar 04 18:28:22 oh right Mar 04 18:28:23 7 Mar 04 18:29:26 Hi Dave! Mar 04 18:29:43 unwiredben: what was that "curl it" thing you mentioned? Mar 04 18:29:54 I can't find a link Mar 04 18:30:43 I found it, it was hurl.it Mar 04 18:30:52 saw it in his slides Mar 04 18:30:54 HURL it...gotcha Mar 04 18:31:20 *tossing things around my office at krope32's command* Mar 04 18:31:31 holy crap, that is awesome Mar 04 18:31:38 whoops :-P Mar 04 18:33:08 is there a way to deal with Html Entities and such in enyo? Mar 04 18:33:12 1.0 Mar 04 18:33:45 EricBlade1: Do you mean like HTML in a {content: ""}, or HTML from the page? Mar 04 18:34:30 deal with them how? Mar 04 18:34:35 hmm. is allowHtml required to do that, or is there a function to translate entities back to their correct valueS? Mar 04 18:35:18 because about the last thing i want someone to do is embed something annoying into an input line, and then have to deal with that Mar 04 18:37:17 EricBlade1: I found escapeHtml...maybe there's unescapeHtml, as well Mar 04 18:37:48 escapeHtml: function(inText) Mar 04 18:37:49 return string with ampersand, less-than, and greater-than characters replaced with HTML entities, e.g. '"This & That"' becomes '<code>"This & That"</code>' Mar 04 18:37:52 escapeHtmlAttribute: function(inText) Mar 04 18:37:55 return string with ampersand and double quote characters replaced with HTML entities, e.g. 'hello from "Me & She"' becomes 'hello from "Me & She"' Mar 04 18:38:51 6 more! Mar 04 18:39:21 sugardave, actually we shouldnt count nslu2-log either Mar 04 18:39:24 EricBlade1: hmm, there is no opposite of either of those Mar 04 18:39:36 damn, still 7 Mar 04 18:46:54 hello enyo Mar 04 18:47:01 adora: it's http://hurl.it/ Mar 04 18:47:12 hi ryanjduffy Mar 04 18:47:15 hello ryanjduffy! Mar 04 18:47:16 it's like curl you can use from your browser Mar 04 18:48:59 how goes the hacking? Mar 04 18:49:18 I find it's much easier if you keep the blade sharpened Mar 04 18:49:44 beep Mar 04 18:50:00 true enough Mar 04 18:50:04 5 more! Mar 04 18:52:02 hehehe: http://enyohackathon.tumblr.com/ Mar 04 18:52:07 Are there any examples of using oauth from enyo 2? Mar 04 18:52:46 Would porting a Mojo app to Enyo qualify for the hackathon? Mar 04 18:53:00 projectAlarum: yes, I think that was decided it is okay Mar 04 18:53:05 projectAlarum: yep! Mar 04 18:53:33 Awesome :-) Mar 04 18:54:08 but we'll be expecting the UI to adopt Enyo conventions, rather than just get scaled up Mar 04 18:54:39 But of course, wouldn't be Enyo otherwise ;-) Mar 04 18:56:04 Sorry about that I'm back! Mar 04 18:56:26 kesne: GOOD Mar 04 18:56:34 sugardave, 3 MORE! Mar 04 18:56:36 Geez, calm down Adora :P Mar 04 18:56:50 My Hackathon app's UI is done! :D Mar 04 18:56:50 because I have some questions about villo Mar 04 18:56:57 Adora: by all means Mar 04 18:57:36 ok, so Mar 04 18:58:35 on http://villo.me/hackathon/ Mar 04 18:59:06 it says "Villo is a JavaScript framework that aims to connect your applications to the cloud. VilloJS provides you with the necessary tools to get your apps tapped into Villo's services, and get your app Villo-Enabled." Mar 04 18:59:13 Indeed Mar 04 18:59:25 first of all, switch "the cloud" in your vocabulary with "the moon" Mar 04 18:59:32 it'll improve your quality of life Mar 04 18:59:32 Will do. Mar 04 18:59:41 "Villo Sexy Chat" is almost done. So proud. Mar 04 18:59:48 Roy-Pre101: Villo sexy chat? Mar 04 18:59:56 kesne: I'm lying. Mar 04 19:00:10 zz_ka6sox, despises "the cloud" Mar 04 19:00:13 It's only halfway done. Mar 04 19:00:14 what are villo's services? I have no idea what villo gives me access to Mar 04 19:00:25 * derekakessler is disappointed by the lack of sexy chat. Mar 04 19:00:26 evening Mar 04 19:00:27 Hey Markus. Mar 04 19:00:33 Roy-Pre101: Ah, gotchya. I'm making a simple chatroom app with Villo for the hackathon Mar 04 19:00:34 i'm here to provide support if needed Mar 04 19:00:37 hey roy Mar 04 19:01:01 2 more people!!!!!!! Mar 04 19:01:01 derekakessler: It's probably for the best. All the women would be played by kesne. Mar 04 19:01:10 ... Mar 04 19:01:16 Roy-Pre101: hay now! Mar 04 19:01:28 Adora: Are you volunteering for sexy chat? Mar 04 19:01:31 umm Mar 04 19:01:33 ok nvm Mar 04 19:01:36 Dibs on Adora for sexy chat time. Mar 04 19:01:38 hai adora Mar 04 19:01:38 case closed. Mar 04 19:01:46 * scoutcamper points at nslu2-log Mar 04 19:02:02 Adora: It's like OpenFeint, only with less emphasis on games. It's got user accounts, friends, chatrooms, headboards, profiles, could-syncing settings, and other goodies. Mar 04 19:02:07 heya swisstomcat Mar 04 19:02:17 kesne: so say that in your about section =] Mar 04 19:02:34 Adora: I'll go add that now. I put that together last night :P Mar 04 19:02:43 looks like we got a lot of people tonight Mar 04 19:03:42 Roy-Pre101 derekakessler: I am so tempted to IRC-RT that Mar 04 19:04:19 I won't stop you. Mar 04 19:05:01 i wonder if we could make a bot that turns twitter conversation into irc-chat ... or vice versa Mar 04 19:05:28 irc is place for geeks. don't let the outside in. Mar 04 19:05:49 swisstomcat: ...IN ENYO! Mar 04 19:05:56 Hey! Who you callin' gee... oh. Mar 04 19:06:06 ^ Mar 04 19:06:22 What is the namespace inside the villo api console? villo.user.login can't be found Mar 04 19:06:55 Error454: Email me: jordangens@gmail.com Mar 04 19:07:10 Error454: My internet is going to go down in a minute Mar 04 19:08:38 that was some foresight Mar 04 19:08:49 so what are people working on for the hackathon? Mar 04 19:09:04 hi swisstomcat Mar 04 19:09:10 hey sugardave Mar 04 19:09:20 dammit, I want a sed bot in here now Mar 04 19:09:41 that corrects people whenever they say the word cloud Mar 04 19:10:00 hi Mar 04 19:10:12 from CH? Mar 04 19:10:13 swisstomcat: competition is fierce, everyone's holding their hacks close to their chest =] Mar 04 19:10:24 cool Mar 04 19:10:25 swisstomcat, yes/no ;) Mar 04 19:10:32 Error454: Don't use the API console. Mar 04 19:10:44 yes, but not living there anymore? Mar 04 19:10:51 2 more people to go Mar 04 19:10:52 kesne: ok :) Mar 04 19:10:56 swisstomcat, in swiss now, but not swiss Mar 04 19:11:07 oh, cool .. where at? Mar 04 19:11:14 swisstomcat, we have a meeting next monday in biel Mar 04 19:11:19 oh :) Mar 04 19:11:25 swisstomcat, /me is @semanticfire Mar 04 19:11:42 it makes sense now :) Mar 04 19:11:49 good Mar 04 19:11:51 looking forward to the 12th Mar 04 19:11:59 * SimpsonCH has been hacking a bit around today as well Mar 04 19:12:02 Error454: Just sent you a bit more explanation. Mar 04 19:12:21 swisstomcat, yup so do I, really curious if we could do something big for the FD Amsterdam with enyo Mar 04 19:12:22 kesne: thanks, that should be all I need Mar 04 19:12:38 Error454: Awesome. I look forward to seeing your app! Mar 04 19:12:50 simpsonCH: let's find out! Mar 04 19:13:13 swisstomcat, yup i'm really looking forward Mar 04 19:13:31 * SimpsonCH has tried to build a RDF editor today Mar 04 19:14:00 Adora, you need to kick oil in the ass if you want new wirc releases cause i need someone else hacking with me else its no fun Mar 04 19:14:09 i have to admit that i'm not up to speed on the semantic web Mar 04 19:14:28 PuffTheMagic: dawwwww Mar 04 19:14:33 what's oil been up to? Mar 04 19:14:40 dundundun Mar 04 19:14:45 nfc Mar 04 19:14:57 i think he defected to android or ios :D Mar 04 19:15:17 that's ok, enyo works on all these things =] Mar 04 19:15:33 I finally quit carrying my veer ;_; Mar 04 19:16:01 dawww Mar 04 19:16:36 all we want is 2.2.4 for veer .. oh, wait Mar 04 19:16:47 I'm waiting for the iphone 5 before switching my main line over to ios. I just can't justify switching to a 4s right now over my pre3 Mar 04 19:18:09 halfhalo: my mom just bought a new ipad! Mar 04 19:18:32 I was like MOOOOOMMMM!! They're releasing a new ipad next week! Check with me before you do these things! Mar 04 19:18:38 Hah Mar 04 19:18:56 My mom still have a first gen 3g ipad and apparently uses it constantly. Mar 04 19:19:15 my mom has a touchpad :) Mar 04 19:20:00 My brother/dad share one of my touchpads, but for my mother, who is not very technical inclined at all, the iPad made way more sense, since she also has an iphone 4 Mar 04 19:20:45 they just work Mar 04 19:22:36 As much as I love my pre3, I need a phone that works with google voice. Mar 04 19:23:22 I use sms with google voice and it works ok Mar 04 19:23:42 translates, etc... and send it out as a text message Mar 04 19:24:02 sms works, answering works, but trying to enter a number for a menu does not Mar 04 19:24:03 I rarely use my EVO because of that a few other reasons Mar 04 19:24:24 yeah I think there's a few browser bugs as well Mar 04 19:24:45 would like to see that as well Mar 04 19:25:00 Only browser bug that really bugs me is the whole "turn it sideways and page refuses to fully load" thing Mar 04 19:25:17 Enyo 1.0 API reference that works in any browser - https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/enyo/enyo-api-reference.html Mar 04 19:25:42 any browser? That sounds like a challenge... Mar 04 19:26:04 hey unwiredben Mar 04 19:26:06 have at it.. I bet it will work in Blazer Mar 04 19:26:16 Hi, swisstomcat! Mar 04 19:27:32 Hmmm, anyone want to throw together a webpage that runs lynx on a remote server and AJAX-echoes it to a 80x24 window on your browser? :) Mar 04 19:27:45 that sounds really cool Mar 04 19:27:48 i love lynx Mar 04 19:28:04 i bet we end up with all the same app Mar 04 19:28:05 holy carp it works in mobile ie. Mar 04 19:29:59 Now, back to making this ar node script play nice on windows Mar 04 19:30:13 The Now: http://statigr.am/viewer.php#/detail/139830810252349750_4035 Mar 04 19:31:05 bah, login required Mar 04 19:31:11 srsly? Mar 04 19:31:36 si Mar 04 19:32:12 srsly. Mar 04 19:32:26 http://statigr.am/p/139830810252349750_4035 Mar 04 19:32:30 there, try that one Mar 04 19:32:43 that one works Mar 04 19:32:48 Awwww. Mar 04 19:33:09 HAY, instagram has an api! someone build a nice enyo instagram viewer! Mar 04 19:34:04 swisstomcat, lets make that happen next week ;) Mar 04 19:34:21 Is there a password flag for enyo2 Input type? Mar 04 19:34:38 Error454: let me check Mar 04 19:34:53 simpsonCH: yep, yep .. i've reserved most of the day Mar 04 19:34:53 I need to make an enyo ui for my novacom installer thingie. Its like palm install, but auto installs novacom if needed on mac/windows/ubuntu and lets you also install packages from url's Mar 04 19:36:10 swisstomcat, good, I'll need to get up early, in valais now Mar 04 19:36:14 god I hate oauth Mar 04 19:36:34 nice .. still have a lot of snow i assume? Mar 04 19:36:54 you can use the attributes array of your input and set "type" to "password" Mar 04 19:37:06 I don't think there's direct framework support for that yet Mar 04 19:37:13 swisstomcat, it needs some new, was like summer here Mar 04 19:38:55 If I need a label before a entryfield in hflexbox, what kind could I use best ? or which class Mar 04 19:39:37 cute. the last function of my api to implement, apparently doesn't work Mar 04 19:40:44 did you check stylematters, simpsonCH? Mar 04 19:41:12 This worked: {kind: "onyx.Input", attributes: { type: "password" }, style: "width: 100%", placeholder: "Enter Password"} Mar 04 19:41:25 swisstomcat, url ? Mar 04 19:41:45 did you download enyo 1 and/or 2? Mar 04 19:42:16 its stil on 1 Mar 04 19:42:22 need to switch to 2 I know ;) Mar 04 19:42:39 stylematters is an example app in 1 Mar 04 19:42:47 EricBlade1: I hit a problem like that at a hackathon a few weeks ago. The JSONP support worked, but it would lower-case my callback function name Mar 04 19:43:32 SimpsonCH: I'd just use enyo.Control, but might need to add a style to get the text vertically centered Mar 04 19:43:40 it looks like i'm not getting proper json back from the server, which is apparently causing the WebService call to never return Mar 04 19:44:14 EricBlade1: might be able to do handleAs:text and just pull out the useful stuff yourself, although that would suck Mar 04 19:44:38 We've had improper JSON output problems even inside webOS, alas, for service calls that weren't all tested Mar 04 19:45:57 it looks like their api is busted, not only is it returning an incorrect response, inside the text of it is merely "Bad Request" even though it fits the documents to a T. :| Mar 04 19:46:54 unwiredben, a nice hint Mar 04 19:47:05 bah! bad documentation. they typoed the manual. :| but i got thru it Mar 04 19:49:09 still, the service is never returning, even though i am now getting a correct response Mar 04 19:52:12 swisstomcat, shows very well how much is missing from 2 ;( Mar 04 19:52:36 try onResponse if onSuccess doesn't get called Mar 04 19:52:41 maybe HTTP response code is odd Mar 04 19:54:32 looks like switching it to text got it working Mar 04 19:56:38 simpsonCH: yeah, it's a work-in-progress still Mar 04 20:01:50 Is there an equivalent to panes in enyo2? Mar 04 20:02:42 I just want to show/hide sets of UI elements Mar 04 20:04:40 how do i make an input for passwords? Mar 04 20:04:51 Nothing like leaving your TouchPad with Ustream running and having somebody start yelling "You have to press play! Press play!" with the screen on Exhibition. Mar 04 20:04:58 (08:41:12 PM) unwiredben: This worked: {kind: "onyx.Input", attributes: { type: "password" }, style: "width: 100%", placeholder: "Enter Password"} Mar 04 20:05:06 swisstomcat, any indication on when there is more to be expected Mar 04 20:05:22 end of this month according to the roadmap Mar 04 20:05:32 thanks Mar 04 20:05:46 Oh, I have a version of Panes, which sort of works Mar 04 20:05:50 the input password works great Mar 04 20:06:17 swisstomcat, that is a nice pace Mar 04 20:10:44 https://github.com/villo/User-Portal/blob/master/source/book/book.js Mar 04 20:12:57 for those not using onyx, this seems to work: {kind: enyo.PasswordInput, name: "diigoPassword", hint: "Password",} Mar 04 20:13:24 did I miss anything? trying to recover data off of my daughter's HDD that she "didn't download anything to or change anything in any way" Mar 04 20:13:27 thanks, dlaflamme Mar 04 20:13:28 *sigh* Mar 04 20:15:21 unwiredben, who's the caracolillo's man at your side? Mar 04 20:18:00 i just started making some big changes to a piece of code that turned out to be a different piece of code than i thought it was.. because i hadn't written the code i thought it was yet. Mar 04 20:20:21 is there a way to query available kinds ? Mar 04 20:22:14 all that are available? Mar 04 20:22:15 SimpsonCH: something like if (enyo.KindName) MIGHT work Mar 04 20:22:22 :) Mar 04 20:22:45 no to see if a specefic one exists Mar 04 20:23:32 simpsonCH: the only "repository" for now is the enyo forums Mar 04 20:23:49 sugardave's answer is probably the right one then Mar 04 20:24:08 Adora, not like that, in the code, like sugardave mentioned Mar 04 20:24:18 ahh, ok....ignore me then =] Mar 04 20:24:20 rawr Mar 04 20:25:10 not to sure about the MIGHT though Mar 04 20:25:26 well, SHOULD, then :) Mar 04 20:26:17 :) Mar 04 20:26:33 Hmmm, a kind is like a class... I wouldn't expect them to be very dynamic in a given class. Are you really wanting to see if a named instance is there, SimpsonCH? Mar 04 20:26:41 yup Mar 04 20:27:42 unwiredben: but since we can do new enyo.KindName, it has to know about them at init time somehow Mar 04 20:28:23 might there be an interest in a tutorial series about starting an app with enyo, bootstrap and php? Mar 04 20:28:32 joekinley: you betcha Mar 04 20:28:53 sugardave, exactly Mar 04 20:29:11 So each owner has it's own namespace for objects, you can do "if (owner.$["name) Mar 04 20:29:19 sugardave: My implementation with Enyo 2 and Bootstrap is better than yours :P Mar 04 20:29:19 So each owner has it's own namespace for objects, you can do "if (owner.$["name"])..." Mar 04 20:29:36 kesne: I'm sure, especially since I haven't touched it in weeks :P Mar 04 20:29:38 sugardave: really? i still dunno if it's not too straightforward Mar 04 20:29:45 sugardave: Nonetheless! Mar 04 20:30:00 kesne: but who was first, hmm? Mar 04 20:30:27 I kind of like my KindInfo kind Mar 04 20:31:05 joekinley: sure, never assume something is too easy Mar 04 20:31:41 SimpsonCH: do you want to know if a particular instance exists or a type of kind so that you can make instances? Mar 04 20:31:51 okay, will work on it then sugardave thanks Mar 04 20:33:52 I should have ported this a long time ago to the touchpad.... Mar 04 20:35:07 sugardave, yup Mar 04 20:35:17 does anyone have a URL for a good general javascript reference? Mar 04 20:35:41 SimpsonCH: that was an A or B question :) Mar 04 20:35:48 dlaflamme: MDN Mar 04 20:36:12 developer.mozilla.org Mar 04 20:36:23 https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript Mar 04 20:36:37 sugardave, I wanna know if a specific kind exists to create a instance afterwards Mar 04 20:36:47 I'm coding today but I did some pixel pushing https://github.com/acarback/OnyxStencil Mar 04 20:37:05 swisstomcat: thanks Mar 04 20:37:05 I"m not coding but I did pixel pushing Mar 04 20:37:36 hey acarback Mar 04 20:37:44 woo i think it's functionally complete. it just so happens to turn out that the api is a lot less functional than i thought :( Mar 04 20:37:54 SimpsonCH: okay, so I would do the whole: if (KindName) var myInstance = new KindName() ot something like that Mar 04 20:37:58 sugardave: I think we tied. Mar 04 20:38:00 k Mar 04 20:38:19 hi swisstomcat Mar 04 20:38:55 Anyone ever gotten a horizontal scroller to work within a toolbar? Mar 04 20:39:43 I should have just stuck to enyo 1.0 for this... Mar 04 20:39:51 I'm not making a lot of progress with enyo 2.0 Mar 04 20:40:05 projectAlarum: don't think I've tried it, but I think that should work okay Mar 04 20:41:37 I have an onyx.Popup that I'm trying to open when the app is loaded. I'm calling .show() on it like the docs say but nothing happens. Mar 04 20:41:40 I also get no errors in the console Mar 04 20:42:35 What should I be using in enyo2 for an equiv of horizontal and vertical flex boxes? Mar 04 20:43:31 Error454: https://github.com/enyojs/layout? Mar 04 20:43:57 http://enyojs.com/samples/fittable/ Mar 04 20:44:03 swisstomcat: thank you Mar 04 20:46:35 I love Enyo 2.0 Mar 04 20:46:52 It took about a week to write all of the utility kinds I needed, but now it's easy like sunday morning Mar 04 20:47:24 kesne: what kind of utility kinds? Mar 04 20:47:34 err...what sort of utility kinds? Mar 04 20:47:38 complicated =] Mar 04 20:47:38 haha Mar 04 20:48:19 Adora: Modals, some buttons, panes, alerts, that sort of stuff. Mar 04 20:48:29 Dropdowns, too Mar 04 20:48:31 Lots of godies Mar 04 20:48:39 do share Mar 04 20:49:33 They're all for Bootstrap, though Mar 04 20:49:37 acarback: I don't have omnigraffle, will you add an "action shot" we can use on the enyo blog? Mar 04 20:49:39 So you need Bootstrap. Mar 04 20:50:13 yes Mar 04 20:50:27 sweeeeeeet Mar 04 20:51:05 how does enyo and bootstrap compare btw? never had a close look at boostrap yet Mar 04 20:52:46 adora - https://github.com/acarback/OnyxStencil/blob/master/screenshot.png Mar 04 20:53:17 beautimous Mar 04 20:55:08 Morning Mar 04 20:55:50 ktk: bootstrap is mainly a responsive design layout framework of CSS and some optional javascript support modules....Enyo is more of a complete js development framework (simple description) Mar 04 20:55:54 rwhitby: hola Mar 04 20:56:40 sugardave: ah tnx Mar 04 20:58:04 hah. i've completed everything the api can do, and now it won't let me do anything more because i've already done it all :| Mar 04 20:58:50 *sigh* There is no way I can get this to a point of being able to submit it before time runs out Mar 04 20:58:58 I think I will try to finish the app later though Mar 04 20:59:56 Same here, got a good chunk, not complete though Mar 04 21:00:45 Awwww meet Erick.... Mar 04 21:01:03 hey ktk :) Mar 04 21:01:17 hey tomcat :) Mar 04 21:01:37 keep doing what you can, guys...we understand that time is limited =] Mar 04 21:01:55 as long as there's some functionality there and we can see where you're going with it, that's still meaningful Mar 04 21:02:02 the time pressure is part of the fun :) Mar 04 21:02:20 I'm not far enough to show that :) Mar 04 21:02:33 with that, and it being 10pm here i'm on my way out .. good luck everyone! Mar 04 21:02:43 see ya, swisstomcat! Mar 04 21:02:58 also: good morning, rwhitby =] Mar 04 21:03:05 night swisstomcat Mar 04 21:03:14 cu Mar 04 21:03:20 1pm here in Sunnyvale Mar 04 21:03:49 oh hey, I have ustream video and some guy apparently talking....but no audio Mar 04 21:03:56 nice Mar 04 21:04:00 enjoy the rest of the sunday Mar 04 21:04:12 i'm looking forward to the hackathon results tomorrow morning Mar 04 21:06:29 oh, I can hear Ben, but not the picture-in-picture dude Mar 04 21:07:02 yeah, i can't hear adam Mar 04 21:07:34 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/enyo-hackathon Mar 04 21:07:48 si Mar 04 21:07:49 why can't i ever figure out what the secret is to getting scrollers to work Mar 04 21:08:19 but seems like a scramble right now to bring in another feed Mar 04 21:08:20 Ditto.... Picker it is.... Mar 04 21:09:25 EricBlade1: enyo 1? Mar 04 21:09:31 yea Mar 04 21:10:11 the only trick with them is that they need explicit height/width OR flexed in a parent control that has explicit height/width Mar 04 21:10:28 or is there some other esoteric thing you're trying to do with them? Mar 04 21:10:44 i can't ever seem to get them to work right in flex boxes without hours of twiddling Mar 04 21:11:26 somewhere the hierarchy above the scroller needs a container with NOT computed height/width....should fix it right up Mar 04 21:12:39 Mine will be littered with tons of seemingly mindless logging... Yes I do talk to myself through code.... Please disregard when judging... Mar 04 21:13:49 PuffTheMagic, Adora: oil's main phone was still a Pre- up until recently, and is now a FrankenPre2 Mar 04 21:14:16 1 api down, 2 to go Mar 04 21:15:15 Awesome Mar 04 21:15:22 My Hackathon submission is mostly done: http://villo.me/hackathon/demo/ Mar 04 21:15:28 rwhitby: does that mean I'm the last user of the OG Pre-s? Mar 04 21:16:56 erupnu: 42 min left :D Mar 04 21:17:11 seriously? ok, will ahve api #2 done Mar 04 21:17:27 1 hour 42 mins, yeah? Mar 04 21:18:15 sugardave: maybe Mar 04 21:18:47 :) Mar 04 21:19:24 I still have a Sprint Pixi on and extra line.... Mar 04 21:20:25 my gf has a pre- Mar 04 21:20:33 i heard 5pm Eastern time Mar 04 21:20:35 was the end Mar 04 21:20:53 ah, thought it was 12-6 Eastern, my bad Mar 04 21:21:05 that's what i thought too but they said 5 on the broadcast Mar 04 21:21:10 well, that is what it says on the site Mar 04 21:21:41 Does villo have a max limit for history? Mar 04 21:21:44 JUDGES: clarification on end time please :) Mar 04 21:22:10 *ahem* Adora, UnwiredBen, derekakessler Mar 04 21:22:14 hahaha, I thought unwiredben was about to fall out of his chair Mar 04 21:22:18 wow, Chrome just crashed with an error message in some oriental language Mar 04 21:23:07 Error454: I think it's 100. It also gets cleared every 24 hours I think Mar 04 21:23:29 according to http://enyohackathon.com/infoChallenge.htm, entries must be submitted via email by 5pm est Mar 04 21:29:00 la la la my api won't give me any more results ... Mar 04 21:29:17 i need a new ip Mar 04 21:32:21 does enyo have a strip function? Mar 04 21:32:45 uploading my submission now :) Mar 04 21:32:54 not much time to whip a fully functional app up... Mar 04 21:37:11 Go forth and play: http://api.flashcardstogo.com/anonymoustexter/index.html Mar 04 21:38:02 kesne: Hmm, I don't see how to get a list of users in a chat room... do I have to send a secret message when I join a room? Mar 04 21:38:32 erupnu: withholding comment until submission is closed =] Mar 04 21:38:44 adora: I expect that froma ll judges Mar 04 21:38:55 was more to distract other competitors :P Mar 04 21:39:18 erupnu: shiny buttons... Mar 04 21:39:25 heh Mar 04 21:39:42 acarback: quick and dirty, but I like em! Mar 04 21:40:37 I finally wrote a decent "Error" alert kind for myself on this... now I have work to do in all my other apps Mar 04 21:41:52 Error454: That's undocumented, but pass this with the join function: Mar 04 21:41:55 presence: { Mar 04 21:42:01 enabled: true, Mar 04 21:42:09 callback: function Mar 04 21:42:10 } Mar 04 21:42:25 kesne: ok, I was wondering bout the presence stuff, couldn't find it in there Mar 04 21:42:36 And the callback will be called when users join and leave, and it will pass the callback function a list of users currently online Mar 04 21:42:41 Error454: Yeah, it's not documented yet Mar 04 21:43:41 kesne: nice and simple api, I like it so far Mar 04 21:44:16 Error454: We're working on making it even better. We've spend a tremendous effort trying to get 1.0 ready, just making it consistent and easy to use. Mar 04 21:44:17 so, I can go chill and relax for an hour, yeah? Mar 04 21:46:06 erupnu: yeah, I'll ping you if we need anything Mar 04 21:46:58 adora: danke Mar 04 21:47:02 erupnu: doesn't work for au mobiles ; Mar 04 21:47:22 rwhitby: sadly, I know. But I cannot control the API (it's not mine) Mar 04 21:47:28 Adora: mark him down 1 for that Mar 04 21:47:41 rwhitby: stop influencing the judges this instant! Mar 04 21:47:51 Submitted my app Mar 04 21:47:52 Bam Mar 04 21:48:01 I have already noticed that it doesn't work for google voice... Mar 04 21:48:24 I don't even know what my AT&T number is Mar 04 21:48:25 no clue Mar 04 21:48:35 yeah, someone said verizon isn't working wither, but AT&T does for sure. But... give it time. Networks put a low priority on these messages Mar 04 21:48:38 kense! Mar 04 21:53:41 sorry, have been handling questions from the floor here in NYC Mar 04 21:55:34 5 more minutes to email your submissions! Mar 04 21:55:58 Submitted :-) Mar 04 21:56:34 my choice of api's was .. awful. Mar 04 21:56:48 and this is a terrible mess. lol but here goes Mar 04 21:57:14 I don't expect to qualify, would love to win 2nd or 3rd place though ;-) Mar 04 21:57:15 enyohackathon@gmail.com ? Mar 04 21:57:25 yep! Mar 04 21:58:57 SENT Mar 04 21:59:55 ask500people really really needs some help with building a useful api Mar 04 22:00:11 i ran out of time to hack in more workarounds to various crap Mar 04 22:00:11 we just announced a 15 minute extension on submissions Mar 04 22:00:15 d'oh Mar 04 22:00:21 you can submit until 5:15 EST Mar 04 22:00:35 resubmit if you want Mar 04 22:01:08 rwhitby: Did you mean kesne? Mar 04 22:01:18 that's what he said, kense Mar 04 22:01:31 I will murder you, Tibfib_. Mar 04 22:02:57 hah Mar 04 22:03:19 Damn... Forgot to snap scrollers/reset Mar 04 22:03:24 How do you get a FittableRow to fill the height of the screen? Mar 04 22:05:35 ping unwiredben, sugardave, Roy-Pre101? Mar 04 22:05:46 Adora: Si senorita? Mar 04 22:05:49 Hey is my dev mgr Adela still with the team? Mar 04 22:05:58 Adora: present! Mar 04 22:06:22 sugardave is present and un-accounted for. Mar 04 22:06:23 how do you get a fittablerow to fill the height of the screen? ^^^ Mar 04 22:06:31 Adora: Who knows? Mar 04 22:06:40 let's see Mar 04 22:06:49 ping Adora Mar 04 22:06:53 what you need? Mar 04 22:06:56 I miss Judy Mar 04 22:06:56 Can add style: height: 100%; width: 100%; Mar 04 22:07:04 But I don't know that will work. Mar 04 22:07:22 (busy judging early submissions, not answering tech questions) Mar 04 22:07:43 unwiredben: was just drawing attention to error454's question, looks like Roy-Pre101 and sugardave are on it Mar 04 22:07:49 k Mar 04 22:08:00 projectAlarum: yes, Adela's still with us =] Mar 04 22:08:08 *dev relations Mar 04 22:08:25 Awesome Mar 04 22:08:54 is fittable an Onyx thing? Mar 04 22:09:17 or a layout thing Mar 04 22:09:35 Error454: How's it going? Have you submitted? Mar 04 22:10:26 kesne: I was trying to do some level of layout, but it's not going to get there, this is just sadly horrible, I'll send things over now Mar 04 22:10:42 hmmm, looks like fittable should already fill the height of whatever container it is in Mar 04 22:11:05 Error454: Design has very little bearing. Mar 04 22:11:22 Yeah, what sugardave said. Here's a demo: http://enyojs.com/samples/fittable/ Mar 04 22:11:34 5 minutes left v2.0! Mar 04 22:12:50 hey kesne, we have someone here doing villo that has questions for you later, after the hackathon is over. what's the best way to reach you? Mar 04 22:12:50 REsubmitted Mar 04 22:13:06 So put it in a fittable column Mar 04 22:13:51 kense: nope Mar 04 22:14:16 digitalelph: jordangens@gmail.com Mar 04 22:14:36 rwhitby: Haha, jerk :P Mar 04 22:14:52 ok, 1.0.2 is my final submission lol Mar 04 22:16:01 thanks kesne, told him Mar 04 22:16:20 digitalelph: Awesome, glad someone is actually using villo! Mar 04 22:16:30 all this hacking makes me wish I had brought my laptop. =( Mar 04 22:16:43 http://www.odd-fish.net/the-golden-galleon/ Mar 04 22:16:50 Error454: Man, you're busting my balls, you didn't include the enyo libraries :P Mar 04 22:17:29 Roy-Pre101: *groan* Mar 04 22:17:30 kesne: oh haha sorry, if you grab the latest enyo and throw that folder under enyo/examples it will work Mar 04 22:17:34 hmm. i started a pot of coffee just before the first broadcast Mar 04 22:17:42 i forgot to go get any of it Mar 04 22:17:57 hey, coffee sounds like an excellent idea Mar 04 22:18:06 yeah i think i'll go get some coffee Mar 04 22:18:09 Error454: Haha, alright Mar 04 22:19:20 Error454: I'm confused on what this app does. Mar 04 22:19:41 kesne: Yes, you should be. Did you checkout the README? I tried to explain the madness of the layout Mar 04 22:21:20 sugardave: Here you go, more computer related: http://www.odd-fish.net/unresolved-issues/ Mar 04 22:21:20 Time spent wrestling enyo: 3.8 hours, Time spent wrestling Villo API: 0.2 hours Mar 04 22:21:51 ok, thanks everyone...submission is closed! Mar 04 22:22:13 Doh! Mar 04 22:22:34 judging as fast as we can, won't be actively watching irc so please ping me if you need me Mar 04 22:22:46 yep, I'm going to sign out of IRC for now Mar 04 22:23:14 everyone should be required to submit to app catalog by this time next week .. lol Mar 04 22:24:42 Error454: Villo's supposed to have a very low lurning curve. Mar 04 22:24:56 Roy-Pre101: oh man, that is also groaner Mar 04 22:25:32 Yep, that's why I love it. Mar 04 22:26:50 good lord touchpads download images slow. is it not able to download more than 1 or 2 images at a time? Mar 04 22:30:16 i didn't realize you guys were broadcasting, it was Shockwave that blew up chrome eariler Mar 04 22:30:59 oh it's an old one Mar 04 22:35:20 EricBlade1: I think there were some "challenges" during the broadcasting Mar 04 22:45:31 Judgement may be delayed a few minutes... Mar 04 22:46:38 How many final submissions I wonder... Mar 04 22:48:13 The email ate my attachment so I'm just hoping it still get judged Mar 04 22:48:26 Anybody know how many developers were participating? Mar 04 22:48:38 hopefully the api people at ask500people will get back to me, with a few more functions and a couple of fundamental changes, i could turn that into a nice app Mar 04 22:49:47 Totally forgot to finish scrims... Mar 04 22:49:48 Yeah - I'm going to tweak mine and submit it as a real app Mar 04 22:49:51 their "ask random question" api only goes through a very tiny subset of what's available on there, and then it just returns "error" after you finish them Mar 04 22:50:37 and there's no way to get a list of things available, except by userid .. but there's no way to get a list of userids. Mar 04 22:52:46 had i not spent 30 minutes on dealing with their api responding with bad json, i might've been able to add some memory caching to help deal with the BS that their servers give back Mar 04 22:58:08 Villo winners announced Mar 04 22:59:07 Winners announcement coming in one minute on Ustream. Mar 04 22:59:40 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/enyo-hackathon Mar 04 23:00:02 I'll be waiting for the tweets, because I can't make ustream work, unfortunately Mar 04 23:00:07 interesting. looks like the final of my app barely works Mar 04 23:00:19 sometimes it works right, but i can't figure out what conditions that's in lol Mar 04 23:00:27 congratulations whoever :) Mar 04 23:00:52 my polling app tries to show the results of the polls and mostly fails Mar 04 23:00:56 wait I hear it somewhere, but cannot find the tab Mar 04 23:01:13 a Treo of prizes? haha Mar 04 23:01:21 heh Mar 04 23:01:55 congrats erupnu Mar 04 23:02:03 Best Design: Anonymous Texter by James Harris. Mar 04 23:02:05 I missed which one I won? Mar 04 23:02:12 best design Mar 04 23:02:13 best design eh, cool Mar 04 23:02:36 Best Functionality: Ubiquity by Chris Mondock. Mar 04 23:02:41 \o/ Mar 04 23:03:01 congrats kesne Mar 04 23:03:02 Best Overall App: Villo Chat by Jodan Gensler. Mar 04 23:03:20 I don't think I know who Chris is Mar 04 23:03:26 congrats folks! Mar 04 23:03:26 :D! Mar 04 23:03:43 Chris also won the villo contest Mar 04 23:03:51 Congratulations to all the winners and our thanks to everybody who participated. Good stuff! Mar 04 23:04:08 * EricBlade1 clap clap clap! applause! Mar 04 23:04:11 Congrats! Mar 04 23:04:23 :) Mar 04 23:04:32 Congrats kense! Mar 04 23:04:39 lol Mar 04 23:05:08 rwhitby: One of these days, you'll get it right Mar 04 23:05:12 i want to see everyone's apps :\ Mar 04 23:05:35 EricBlade1: Trust me, your eyes will thank you if you don't Mar 04 23:05:36 kense: get what right? Mar 04 23:05:47 lol really, i do though Mar 04 23:06:15 we can all learn from them all. even if it's "don't do this" :) Mar 04 23:06:17 EricBlade1: perhaps everyone could submit a url for their app that we can post Mar 04 23:06:19 No kidding... Mar 04 23:06:50 I am the master of "don't do this" examples Mar 04 23:06:56 erupnu: too bad that point taken off for au mobiles lost it for you... Mar 04 23:07:00 Adora: http://villo.me/hackathon/demo Mar 04 23:07:20 rwhitby: i know right? Mar 04 23:08:38 kesne: In your app, which parts are enyo and which are bootstrap? I'm unfamiliar with bootstrap Mar 04 23:08:39 So, who's going to be in the SJC/Bay area early next week? Mar 04 23:08:58 Error454: Bootstrap is everything visual Mar 04 23:09:13 rwhitby: not me :/ Mar 04 23:09:13 Error454: Enyo is used to show the pretty things. Mar 04 23:09:41 kesne: Very visually pleasing Mar 04 23:09:57 Error454: Combo of Enyo, Bootstrap, and JQuery, makes it very cool. Mar 04 23:10:18 Enyo does the heavy-lifting though. Everything is built with components. Mar 04 23:10:26 You can actually see the source here: https://github.com/villo/enyohackathon Mar 04 23:10:41 nice Mar 04 23:11:02 congrats to the winners! Mar 04 23:11:09 Thanks! Mar 04 23:11:32 congrats to the winners, but as well to everyone else who submitted. Mar 04 23:11:43 I'd like to know how many submissions there were Mar 04 23:11:50 < 5 hrs to bang out anything is pretty cool Mar 04 23:12:00 but yeah, congrats to everyone! Mar 04 23:13:33 My brain is now successfully fried Mar 04 23:13:33 Contrats to everyone as well. Mar 04 23:13:57 heh. figured out my problem. the very last second change. Mar 04 23:14:07 the ? : operator in Javascript has a weird precedence Mar 04 23:19:08 there were 17 submissions Mar 04 23:20:06 Adora, how long till we see all 17 in ther app cat? Mar 04 23:20:09 the* Mar 04 23:20:24 but unfortunately....many of the non-hosted submissions didn't work Mar 04 23:20:32 :-( Mar 04 23:20:42 didn't have an enyo folder and other weirdness Mar 04 23:21:01 ... Mar 04 23:21:10 I really, really want to see those...willing to give additional prizes if warranted =] Mar 04 23:21:26 scoutcamper: depends on if the developer wants to package as a webOS app and submit Mar 04 23:21:34 Did mine work? Mar 04 23:21:54 projectAlarum: which one was yours? Mar 04 23:23:24 (answered via pm) Mar 04 23:27:13 anyway, I'll let aclassapps decide how he wants to organize that effort Mar 04 23:36:44 I just need a day to wrap up the Anonymous Texter one for webOS and even x-plat Mar 04 23:37:14 it'll take longer to create projects for each platform than to finish the app... Mar 04 23:42:45 well, here's mine, after a few fixes to make it actually functional.. how embarassing Mar 04 23:43:12 http://ericbla.de/ask/index.html .. will require you run it in webkit with the cross-site security off Mar 04 23:46:09 EricBlade1: here's what I see in chrome - https://skitch.com/lisabrewster/88nne/split-view-layout Mar 04 23:46:53 running with --disable-web-security? Mar 04 23:47:37 I have to launch with that?? Mar 04 23:47:37 no Mar 04 23:47:40 =] Mar 04 23:47:54 i'd add something to defeat that but i don't know a quick way Mar 05 00:08:40 Adora: make another chrome profile and a shortcut to it with those "special" flags, then you don't worry about running wide-open in your real browser :) Mar 05 00:25:52 I just resent my app, I know its over but I was told it was unreadable... Mar 05 01:27:44 so who won the contest? anyone Mar 05 01:28:14 fxspec06: I did Mar 05 01:42:21 lol Mar 05 01:42:28 i should have entered. i would have beat you. Mar 05 01:42:33 but alas i wanted to relax Mar 05 01:42:50 let me see your app Mar 05 02:01:57 oh, hurrah...updating to the new version of Textual fixed the problems I was having accessing irc from verizon Mar 05 02:02:33 * minego yawns Mar 05 02:02:39 still, got an ssh tunnel set up for if/when I can't get through at the office Mar 05 02:12:13 fxspec06: villo.me/hackathon/demo Mar 05 02:33:39 Linkinus ftw **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 05 02:59:58 2012