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May 30 03:00:08 <rrix> Cute as shit, too
May 30 03:00:29 <rrix> The only downside is that I have a single variable being stored to DOMWindow :\
May 30 03:00:47 <rrix> (for order in which the resources are created)
May 30 03:04:52 <rrix> Now all I need is an animated pane kind that actually does what I need
May 30 03:05:03 <rrix> infiniteslidingpane was close but not quite :\
May 30 03:05:10 <Tibfib_> check out Panels
May 30 03:05:12 <Tibfib_> in onyx
May 30 03:06:41 <fxspec06> when you set owner: this during createComponents, you can't destroy components later
May 30 03:06:44 <fxspec06> =((((
May 30 03:08:40 <rrix> Tibfib_: is it in the Onyx package or somewhere else?
May 30 03:08:42 <rrix> I don't sees it
May 30 03:08:56 <rrix> Oh, there's a Panel kind in layout/
May 30 03:09:42 <fxspec06> wait, i take that back
May 30 03:10:10 <fxspec06> you totally can destroycomponents, but any nested components aren't destroyed along with
May 30 03:11:59 <fxspec06> nope yeah owner: this makes destroycomponents useless
May 30 03:13:12 <fxspec06> but i can use owner: this in the component line and it works.
May 30 03:13:54 <fxspec06> hmmmmmmmmmmmm sweet oh man this app is like. IT'S GETTING THERE MAN
May 30 03:14:04 <rrix> hmm panels can probably be coerced in to doing what I want
May 30 03:23:53 * rrix brb phoenix az
May 30 03:27:30 <sugardave> Panels can do anything
May 30 03:27:33 <sugardave> maybe
May 30 03:29:29 <fxspec06> can they stay in the kitchen and cook me food for a living
May 30 03:29:46 <fxspec06> because, i'd totally use them
May 30 03:30:51 <EricBlade> that's what girlfriends are for
May 30 03:31:06 <EricBlade> (i am kidding, ladies)
May 30 03:34:38 <fxspec06> http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_feb2005/ComplicatedComputers.gif
May 30 03:40:51 <visionary> any examples or how to build an enyo app for phonegap?
May 30 03:47:45 <fxspec06> yeah, just build any phonegap app and enyo will work with it
May 30 03:48:16 <fxspec06> phonegap uses html5 as a platform.. enyo is just an html5 app
May 30 04:15:08 <sugardave> visionary: https://github.com/enyojs/bootplate
May 30 04:18:33 <visionary> thanks
May 30 04:20:40 <Tibfib_> fxspec06: figure out your components issue?
May 30 04:21:06 <Tibfib_> rrix: oops, I meant layout, not onyx.
May 30 04:21:43 <Tibfib_> fxspec06: well if you didn't, I think what you are looking for is destroyControls() and getControls()
May 30 04:21:54 <fxspec06> yeah, i figured it
May 30 04:21:55 <fxspec06> but
May 30 04:22:04 <fxspec06> i didn't know destroyControls existed, so thanks
May 30 04:22:27 <Tibfib_> components are the OWNED kinds. controls are the child controls
May 30 04:26:59 <Tibfib_> for the SQL UPDATE statement with a WHERE clause, do you use "column = value OR column = value" or do you use "WHERE column IN (value, value)" ?
May 30 04:28:12 <sugardave> the first one
May 30 04:28:17 <sugardave> is what I have used
May 30 04:28:46 <sugardave> but I usually have to find an example online
May 30 04:34:16 <fxspec06> awh crap. i have overlooked the fact that sports like basketball and football have ending scores that are definitely not in the tens
May 30 04:34:27 <fxspec06> what was i thinking
May 30 04:34:51 <Tibfib_> sugardave: hmmm
May 30 04:35:16 <ezakimak> Tibfib_, did you check out knockout yet?
May 30 04:35:20 <Tibfib_> I have not
May 30 04:35:24 <Tibfib_> I will now that I have a better connection
May 30 04:35:35 <ezakimak> i'm reading up on it right now
May 30 04:35:48 <Tibfib_> sugardave: for SELECT statements I use the first, for DELETE FROM statements I use the later
May 30 04:35:52 <Tibfib_> I'll try the first
May 30 04:36:02 <sugardave> oh you said UPDATE, huh?
May 30 04:36:16 <sugardave> not sure about that one and I can't look at my old MOJO code right now :P
May 30 04:37:22 <Tibfib_> haha
May 30 04:37:27 <Tibfib_> the second doesn't seem to work
May 30 04:37:32 <Tibfib_> sooo I'm trying hte first
May 30 04:38:09 <fxspec06> omg this is so cool
May 30 04:45:25 <Tibfib_> looks like the second does work
May 30 04:45:35 <Tibfib_> the first might have worked I suppose, it's my surrounding code doesn't though
May 30 04:47:38 <ezakimak> Tibfib_, so far knockoutjs is awesome
May 30 04:49:29 <Tibfib_> slick got it working
May 30 04:49:39 <Tibfib_> ezakimak: checking it out now
May 30 04:49:55 <ezakimak> the tutoriial format is amazing. wish all projects did it like that
May 30 04:51:30 <Tibfib_> so you use enyo to write the html and ko to do the background work
May 30 04:52:46 <ezakimak> ko can handle all the data binding
May 30 04:53:07 <ezakimak> not sure which will talk to the server, i imagine possibly a combination
May 30 04:53:23 <ezakimak> since i'd do the ui flow w/enyo, but all the data management w/knockoutjs
May 30 04:53:44 <Tibfib_> I could see going back and forth being a tad obnoxious
May 30 04:53:49 <Tibfib_> however, it could work
May 30 04:54:45 <Tibfib_> lemme know how it goes!
May 30 04:55:47 <ezakimak> will do
May 30 05:16:36 <Tibfib_> I'm stumped
May 30 05:19:47 <rrix> Tibfib_: Yup; figured it out on the plane and the things are sexypants now
May 30 05:38:59 <fxspec06> this works. http://i.imgur.com/vavfz.png
May 30 05:48:18 <rrix> hmm, Panels doesn't fire an event when it's done transitioning
May 30 05:48:33 <sugardave> pull the top of tree and it does
May 30 05:49:06 <rrix> heh
May 30 05:50:25 <rrix> hah, awesome
May 30 05:50:27 <rrix> thanks sugardave  :)
May 30 05:50:31 <sugardave> np
May 30 05:50:36 <rrix> instant gratification
May 30 05:50:53 <sugardave> the first one is free!
May 30 05:51:03 <rrix> And it's documented, too!
May 30 05:57:16 <Tibfib_> OH MY GOSH
May 30 05:57:20 <Tibfib_> that was the worst thing ever
May 30 05:59:00 <Tibfib_> FYI everyone, Google Reader does not like it if you pass them a blank parameter
May 30 05:59:48 <rrix> hah
May 30 08:00:16 <EricBlade> ok, so, i think i'm going to try to get a start in enyo 2 again
May 30 08:01:18 <EricBlade> what's best way to get started, now, just clone bootplate?
May 30 08:12:51 <ezakimak> yep
May 30 08:15:31 <EricBlade> that is pretty easy
May 30 08:15:43 <EricBlade> now to figure out how to actually make it do something
May 30 08:17:23 <ezakimak> did you get the submodules?
May 30 08:17:52 <ezakimak> git submodule init; git submodule update
May 30 08:18:45 <EricBlade> yeah
May 30 08:19:31 <ezakimak> i'm trying to figure out why i might still need enyo now that I found knockout
May 30 08:24:20 <EricBlade> hmm. the sample panels doesn't seem to work for me. :(
May 30 08:26:02 <EricBlade> eh, got it. ok
May 30 08:29:08 <EricBlade> ok this is totally breaking my mind.  backing off now
May 30 08:34:18 <EricBlade> blah i can't even think what i want to do. must be time to go play games.
May 30 08:34:56 <ezakimak> i know the feeling
May 30 08:35:42 <EricBlade> lots of todo lists, no desire
May 30 08:38:46 <fxspec06> what in the heck is a start
May 30 08:39:15 <fxspec06> all the logic in my tourny app works
May 30 08:39:17 <fxspec06> w00t
May 30 08:39:28 <fxspec06> i need more logos, more images, more glitter
May 30 08:39:41 <fxspec06> then it's >>> package, icon, & submit
May 30 08:39:48 <fxspec06> not necessarily in that order
May 30 09:13:53 <EricBlade> wow according to my google info page, i lost 30 gvoice users yesterday on android
May 30 11:58:53 <madnificent> EricBlade: how'd you do that?
May 30 11:59:06 <madnificent> EricBlade: do you insert fragments of content through their conversations
May 30 11:59:44 <madnificent> just random pieces of voice content in their conversations?
May 30 16:19:03 <Tibfib_> ezakimak: I don't like writing HTML, which is why I'd prefer enyo to knockout
May 30 16:20:26 <ezakimak> even though enyo is far more verbose to output html?
May 30 16:21:37 <ezakimak> in theory you could combine them
May 30 16:23:08 <Tibfib_> yeah
May 30 16:24:19 <fxspec06> no me gusta HTML
May 30 17:08:20 <fxspec06> https://twitter.com/EnyoJS/status/207869282783203328/photo/1/large
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